Sunday night linkaliciousness
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 9, 2008 8:45 PM CST
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Some linkalicousness from this weekend...
T.R. Sullivan reports that the Rangers are interested in 22 year old Japanese righty Junichi Tazawa and former Nationals closer Chad Cordero. Tazawa has gotten an offer from the Braves already, and presumably would be a guy who would be viewed as a near-major-league ready starting pitcher prospect. Cordero would be a reclamation project, and Sullivan invokes Eric Gagne and Eddie Guardado in discussing Cordero.
Over at the MVN collection of blogs, there is a post on "Being the G.M.: Boston Red Sox," which suggests a Bowden and Crisp for Saltalamacchia deal. Landing Crisp made more sense last offseason...and while Josh Hamilton will probably have to move out of centerfield before too long, adding Crisp now would just seem to further complicate an outfield situation where you've got Hamilton as a given, and then Nelson Cruz, Marlon Byrd, David Murphy, and Brandon Boggs vying for playing time, with John Mayberry Jr. and Julio Borbon waiting in the wings.
Even if you say, well, we'll trade Byrd and Mayberry will never pan out, that's still a lot of guys for two spots (3, if you include the 4th outfielder job). Crisp would probably make more sense if the Rangers were planning on turning him around and including him in a deal for a starting pitcher.
Speaking of centerfielders, David Pinto has his PMRs for centerfielders in 2008 up. B.J. Upton, Carlos Gomez, and Carlos Beltran all were excellent, in terms of PMR, and Byrd grades out surprisingly well. Hamilton is near the bottom, and Pinto mentions that that is one that he wants to look at closer, as he notes that those who watch Hamilton think he's better than that defensively.
The Yankees supposedly want Mike Cameron from the Brewers, and are reportedly offering a package of Melky Cabrera and Ian Kennedy, which is a little ironic, because, if I recall correctly, the Yanks weren't willing to part with a Cabrera/Kennedy package to get Johan Santana last offseason.
Justin Smoak in the AFL so far:
15 for 37, 5 walks, 6 Ks, 4 doubles, 1 triple, 1 HR, .405/.488/.649.
And remember, this is a guy who missed just about all summer while negotiating his contract, and this is a league populated with players who all have more pro experience than Smoak.
Buster Olney on the Ranger pitching and defense:
But the Rangers' defense, in general, is very poor, and as Mike Maddux, Nolan Ryan and others in the organization look to evaluate ways to improve the team's pitching, this is the easiest way to do so. Scouts are unanimous in this view: Texas gives away outs every day with its collective defensive range.
John Perrotto looks at the big free agents out there, and has this to say about Milton Bradley:
Milton Bradley (7.8): Despite having a fine 2008 season spent primarily as a designated hitter, he won't be returning to the Rangers after they declined to give him a multi-year offer. The Mets will make a play if they can't sign Ibanez, and the Phillies, Rays, and Blue Jays all have varying degrees of interest. The right fit for Bradley, prone to occasional outbursts of temper, will be the Blue Jays and the cool hand of veteran manager Cito Gaston.
It doesn't matter who Bradley signs with or whether they are in the top or bottom of the league in record...since Bradley is a Type B free agent, under the new rules, the Rangers will get a sandwich pick no matter who signs him (assuming they offer arbitration).
Perrotto also says that the Rangers have significant interest in Casey Blake, and says the Nationals are hot and heavy for Mark Teixeira, and could offer Teixeira a 10 year, $200 million deal. Given the dynamics of the situation, wouldn't it be interesting if the Nats (who are also something of a fit because of Teixeira's
roots in the Baltimore area) ended up topping the 10 year, $252 million offer the Rangers made ARod back in the day?
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Ian Kennedy AND Melky for Mike freaking Cameron?
Either Kennedy must not be worth much right now, or that’s wishful thinking on the part of that writer. Either way the Yankees would be morons to make that trade. Wow.
Just say no to Scott Olsen.
by lonestarJon on Nov 9, 2008 8:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i have a feeling
this past season was a reality shock to the Yankees. Watching the triumvirate of Joba/Hughes/Kennedy fail to provide the impact they were expecting (each to varying degrees) has made the team more willing to deal their younger players. the Yankees exist in an altered reality of outrageous year to year expectations, not unlike the Cowboys, so when they have a year like last year, common sense can go out the window.
by clark on Nov 9, 2008 9:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Melky sucks at baseball and Kennedy has some shame in his game after last season's major league struggles.
Plus Mike Cameron is really good. I don’t have my calculator in front me but off the top of my head I’d say he’s roughly a billion times better than Melky at baseball.
I don’t know if I’d do that if I was Milwaukee.
In fact, I probably wouldn’t. It would all depend on Kennedy cause Melky just sort of sucks at baseball.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 9, 2008 9:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Crisp
I was kind of surprised to see how where Crisp ranked on Pinto’s PMR rankings. For some reason, I had thought of Crisp as an elite defensive CF, and he was just average last year, it seemed. Unless the Rangers views Crisp as a top-tier defender, there is no reason they should have any interest in him.
As for the Crisp and Bowden for Salty idea…. meh. That is pretty darn underwhelming.
by Stephen Rushin on Nov 9, 2008 8:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
One word on Crisp.
Playoffs. Lordy he was awful.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Nov 9, 2008 8:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Playoffs?!?
You wanna talk about Playoffs? You kiddin me? Playoffs?
"They shouldn't throw at me. I'm the father of five or six kids."
-Tito Fuentes, after getting hit by a pitch.
by Haeger Champ on Nov 10, 2008 8:25 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
That's why you don't trade for someone based strictly on their defense
Unless you are talking about a guy who has consistently been among the best in the league. Make sure that these players have something else to offer.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Nov 10, 2008 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hamilton
he’s better than that defensively, but he had his share of brain farts this year.
Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. Back to Suckville with a loss to FLA ATL but whatever, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-9 baby!
by sprite on Nov 9, 2008 9:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Tazawa would F the Rangers street cred in JP.
And then that pitching kinda teacher guy would be back in Arlington…
Cordero? Very interested. Check out the medicals and offer him an incentive laden deal. Plus, Basik is friends with him, and he (Cordero) would really like to join the org.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Nov 9, 2008 9:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bascik
was on the hardline recently and pretty much dogged the rangers. Kinda annoyed me.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 9, 2008 9:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bascik
i, for one, am not a fan. i think the Bailout would be much better with just K Scott and Fredo.
ive posted over on dallasbasketball.com on and off before, and bascik is on there pretty often spouting off his opinions. he always irks me the wrong way. like using his status as a big leaguer to give him credibility to talk about sports.
and the deal with him serving up that softball to Bonds to break the record…that reeked of him wanting publicity. i dont know why a pitcher would want to be known for that, but i got that feeling from him. but then again, maybe its just cus he sucks.
by 6th street on Nov 9, 2008 9:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I used to work with his uncle
they sound exactly the same. It’s weird when I hear him on the radio b/c it makes me think of his crazy uncle.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 9, 2008 9:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cameron vs Byrd
both are signed for one more year. I know Cameron offers more power, but Byrd had an OPS last year of .842, helped by a surprisingly strong OBP, whereas Cameron’s was at .809 because of his lower batting average. So, I wonder if the Yankees would be interested in Byrd. I don’t want to trade Byrd just to trade him, but I am intrigued by the idea of buying low on both Kennedy and Melky.
Also, I threw out the idea of trading Laird to the Yankees for Betemit and a reliever on another thread. Tricer and a few others seemed to like the idea, but I didn’t get a lot of feedback. Some may not feel Betemit would offer much of an upgrade over Metcalf, but I think he has quite a bit of potential. The idea of packaging Laird and Byrd for something like Betemit, David Robertson and Ian Kennedy is something I could get behind. If they want to include Melky as well, then so be it. There are plenty of teams looking for a CF, but I like Borbon more…
by clark on Nov 9, 2008 9:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'd love that deal
I think that’d be a pretty good return for OMFT
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 9, 2008 9:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on the reliever for Laird
I think that the best realistic return on Laird is a good relief pitcher+ so if the right player comes back, that would be the best thing for the Rangers.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Nov 10, 2008 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
also
I am not high on a Bowden/Crisp package for Salty, but I wouldn’t mind a Bowden/Bard package. Is that a reasonable return to expect for Salty? I know many are enamored with Buchholz, but I doubt they are willing to deal him.
I know KLaw is a little down on Bowden, but he seems to get better, even dominant, the longer he stays at any level, something that MJH champions as a sign that the pitcher has the ability to acclimate to the league more effectively than the league has the ability to acclimate to him, a strong indicator of future performance (a la Danks).
by clark on Nov 9, 2008 9:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bowden/Bard for Salty straight up?
Eh, I could live with that I guess. I’m still dreamy over Buch though, despite the fact that deal is unlikely.
Just say no to Scott Olsen.
by lonestarJon on Nov 9, 2008 9:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i think we all are
but i am trying to ween myself off those expectations. i still think boston is a good fit, and I am very high on Bard. I think there is a pretty good chance Bowden becomes a solid mid-rotation starter, and Bard is a high risk/reward guy. But if a year and a half of Teixeira ends up garnering us Harrison, Andrus, Feliz, Jones, Bowden and Bard, I would be pretty pleased by that.
by clark on Nov 9, 2008 9:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I'd prefer Masterson/Bard.
If that’s the package it’s Saltalamacchia only. Tea doesn’t go for those two.
If they’d give Hagadone that would be a really interesting second pitcher, but he’s barely cashed his bonus check and is coming off injury.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Nov 9, 2008 10:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so you prefer
Masterson to Bowden? I just have a feeling Masterson sticks in the pen long term. I could be wrong, but I think he is a two pitch guy (although I love that sinking fastball he has). Bowden, on the other hand, seems to have three pretty solid pitches, and his secondary offerings are both supposedly pretty solid.
Also, I think there is a chance Boston values Masterson over Bowden after Masterson’s strong postseason showing, so they might not offer Masterson+Bard, but they may be more willing to offer Bowden+Bard. Obviously that is pure speculation.
The thing that strikes me about Bowden is that even though his G:F is not as strong as Masterson’s, he has still been able to avoid the long ball. Fly ball pitchers are not inherently bad, but fly ball pitchers with high WHIPs and HR rates are.
by clark on Nov 9, 2008 11:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In my gut I prefer Masterson to Bowden. Even though Bowden is surer to be in the rotation, Masterson is surer to be a quality contributor. I may be underrating him, but I think we have a few Bowdens in Hurley, McCarthy and Harrison.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 10, 2008 12:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is Hurley's ceiling really set?
Bowden, Hurley, McCarthy, Harrison – that was quite a collection of pitchers 2 years ago. are they really all the same now (4th starters at best?)
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Nov 10, 2008 1:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that Bowden, Hurley and McCarthy can all be a little more than 4th starters
Even though they’re not identical in terms of style, I think of Bowden and Hurley in a pretty similar light. I think that either could be a real solid #3 type if things go right. And I know that people see more in Harrison, but I see #4 starter written all over him (which wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world).
by Brett Perryman on Nov 10, 2008 10:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There is nothing wrong with a high quality reliever
Like Boston, I too liked what I saw in Masterson in the playoffs. Right now the Rangers have no one in the bullpen who I really feel good about seeing come into a game.
by JBImaknee on Nov 10, 2008 9:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think
it is likely he is included in a catching for pitching deal with Boston?
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 9, 2008 9:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
any suggestions
as to what he could be flipped for?
by clark on Nov 9, 2008 9:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rec...
for the reference.
Stars in a Texas Night Sky, a Dallas Stars blog from a fan's perspective.
by rangers85 on Nov 9, 2008 10:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Same thing that was said about Bradley...
…let’s trade for players we can keep and get off the treadmill.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Nov 9, 2008 11:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the mistake
in that process was failing to flip him, not in signing him in the first place.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 10, 2008 12:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well
the complaint is legitimate if it turned out that nobody wanted Bradley You basically got all that you could possibly hope for in Bradley (had to see the injuries lingering for the entire season). If that led to no (good) trade offers, then the point still stands that we shouldn’t have counted on him as trade bait.
I think the idea is that we shouldn’t sign Crisp counting on the fact that we can flip him mid season for something good. Lofton and Gagne may have spoiled us. However, if we acquired Crisp because we had another deal in place already to flip him immediately, different story.
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Nov 10, 2008 1:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Then I guess the question is
was his season plus the supplemental first rounder worth his contract? I’d say that there’s no question that they were to the Rangers. I know that you can argue that it doesn’t matter whether the Rangers were a high 70s win team or a low 70s, so you might as well save any money spent on just last season, but I don’t buy that for a variety of reasons.
The Rangers can feel free to sign players like Bradley and Lofton to one year deals, regardless of their situation (and as long as they’re not directly blocking someone who needs to be playing, which neither was), every year for the rest of my life, and I’ll be happy about it every time.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 10, 2008 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe just a little bit of bad luck....
if he was type A instead of type B, everything would be different.
by tyd3311 on Nov 10, 2008 8:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn No DL genius moves!
That skewed his ranking, imo.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Nov 10, 2008 8:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It would be interesting to know
if that would have made the difference.
by tyd3311 on Nov 10, 2008 8:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think its a guarantee that it made the difference
He was one of the top hitters in the league these past 2 years. The difference was his total stats were well below where they needed to be. If you put him on the DL, that makes up for that big time. So instead of having 10 poor and spread out ABs over 15 days, you put him on the DL and his stats all take a boost.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Nov 10, 2008 9:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Does Crisp have that much value?
I mean, it seems that we would try to flip a player like Crisp for a pitcher or for a 3B. I cannot think, off the top of my head, of many teams that would be willing to give up anything too significant for Crisp. Maybe Crisp in a deal for Javier Vazquez? I know the White Sox have been vocal about their desire to get more athletic, but Vazquez is awfully expensive (although he is pretty good, via tRA and other statistics). Maybe the Cubs would be interested in Crisp for Sean Marshall, or something?
by Stephen Rushin on Nov 9, 2008 11:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Nats are so weird
Their team is a mess, and they’ve decided to basically cut off their own knees in the draft, then they immediately apparently to go ape wild over Teixeira. I to like the fact that they could conceivably raise the stakes for the likes of the Yankees and Angels.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 9, 2008 9:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
For brooks' approval
I should probably correct my botched phrase. That should be cut themselves off at the knees.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 9, 2008 9:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of Teixeira
i have been watching how the Rockies handle to Holliday situation with some intrigue because it is somewhat analogous to the situation the Rangers were in with Teixeira, and now it appears the Cards balked at the idea of trading Ludwick, Schumaker and Boggs for a year of Holliday. Two 30 year old long time journeymen OFs coming off career years and an older pitching prospect who failed to make an impact after being called up was too much to give up for a year of Holliday?
Wow.
by clark on Nov 9, 2008 9:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
PMR for third basemen is out too
’stache is fantastically bad
by Telegraph on Nov 9, 2008 9:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Remember when...
Gustavo Chacin was the talk of baseball in 2005… How everyone thought he was going to front the Blue Jays rotation (along with Roy Halladay) for years to come… That year he was 24 and finished with 13-9 with a 3.72 ERA…
He is minor league free agent today.
by chrisR on Nov 9, 2008 9:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Shenanigans!
if I recall correctly, the Yanks weren’t willing to part with a Cabrera/Kennedy package to get Johan Santana last offseason.
Can someone find a link on this? Cause I’m almost positive they would’ve done that deal. I thought the hold up was always about Phil Hughes, not about Melky and Ian. If the Yanks really did turn that down they’re the worst, Jerry. The worst. Cause that would’ve been the greatest heist in the history of heists.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Rule 5? No…talk to the hand.
by thedirkatron on Nov 9, 2008 10:04 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
What I believe they wouldn't do
was give up Kennedy in addition to Hughes and Cabrera. People said that they wouldn’t give Kennedy but that was incorrect.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 9, 2008 10:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just "some" Former Rangers that are minor league FAs today:
Victor Diaz
Mark Redman (not technically a former "Ranger")
Laynce Nix
Ryan Bukvich
Jon Leicester
Francisco Cruceta
Bryan Corey
Rick Bauer
Michael Tejera
Daniel Haigwood
Marshall McDougall
Juan-do
Anthony Webster
Jake Blalock
Erasmo Ramirez
Andres Torres
And finally, LSB’s former whipping boy
Matt Kata
by chrisR on Nov 9, 2008 10:11 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
We do need a 3rd baseman, let's give Kata a call!
Kidding, kidding.
Stars in a Texas Night Sky, a Dallas Stars blog from a fan's perspective.
by rangers85 on Nov 9, 2008 10:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Marshall McDougal
Whatever happened to him?
Just say no to Scott Olsen.
by lonestarJon on Nov 9, 2008 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice name drop
"He’s basically told himself unconsciously that he can’t be any good unless he catches 130 games a year. If he played with the baseball smarts of a guy like a David Eckstein, he’d maximize his talent and be an incredible player." - Andy Seiler, Texas Rangers Analyst
by Chase Irwin on Nov 10, 2008 5:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haigwood and Bauer
I would be okay with bringing those two back. I think Haigwood needs to give up on being a starter and focus on being a loogie, and Bauer in the OKC bullpen is just fine with me.
by clark on Nov 9, 2008 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How exactly
do you develop a pitcher to be a loogy?
by chrisR on Nov 10, 2008 12:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
umm
you may have a point. but looking at Haigwood’s 2008 numbers, it looks like he has the potential to be a pretty solid bullpen arm. Any time a left handed pitcher can K more than a guy an inning, I would have at least passing interest. I think his stuff plays much better in the pen, it is just a matter of him cutting down on his walks, which may never happen. Still not a bad guy to stash in triple A.
by clark on Nov 10, 2008 12:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
anyone remember
when Bauer was pitching with Texas and the Ticket would play those ‘24’ drops every time his name was mentioned? That was funny (the first time).
"They shouldn't throw at me. I'm the father of five or six kids."
-Tito Fuentes, after getting hit by a pitch.
by Haeger Champ on Nov 10, 2008 8:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Four Thoughts
1) I have no interest in Crisp-Bowden. It wouldn’t be terrible, but I certainly wouldn’t be happy.
2) I never thought Hamilton even looked that good in the field anecdotally. I thought he had a lot of Range but was constantly out of position. I think it did improve as the year went along, though, and that he was at least decent in right.
3) I have no reason to dislike the idea of Cordero that I can think of. Am I wrong?
4) Teixeira and the Nats reminds me so much (minus the home coming part) of A-Rod to the Rangers if that’s how it goes down. ’Cept Teixeira is nothing compared to A-Rod. We overpayed for him, but at that point he still might have been the most valuable free agent, like. . . ever.
by philkid3 on Nov 10, 2008 1:48 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
he was as young as a FA could be,
he excelled in all conceivable areas of the game, and he played the prime position. plus baseball had a lot of money to spend around that time. it really was the perfect storm for him. it seems absurd that a similar frenzy would occur over teixiera but teams do crazy things sometimes.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Nov 10, 2008 2:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
On Cordero
For me, it all depends on marginal factors. How much are you paying him? How healthy will he be? How much of a role are you promising him? In a vacuum he sounds fine to me. He was no dominant closer most years, but if he’s healthy he should be a solid bullpen contributor, and that would be a very nice thing to add, if the price is right.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 10, 2008 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hamilton
Am I alone in thinking that just plain playing more baseball will improve his OF reads? He’s not going to be that bad, and he can handle CF another year while hoping Borbon is for real and ready in 2010.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Nov 10, 2008 11:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Agree
In Cincy he played roughly 70 games in CF. That was after how many years out of baseball. Then he is forced to move to TBiA and play the CF there which is kinda tricky from all accounts as well as spacious. While i don’t think he will win a GG out there I think he can improve and be good out there until Borbon arrives.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 10, 2008 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's all I thought his issue was.
Just going by eyeballs, it seemed mostly just his reads were poor, especially on balls over his head.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Nov 10, 2008 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Balls over his head
he was just terrible, and very awkward near the wall.
by tyd3311 on Nov 10, 2008 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Aren't we all terrible with ball over our head?
:)
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 10, 2008 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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