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Who is your Texas Ranger prospect that is going to shoot up the prospect sheet next season?

mine is Tim Murphy.  He will be in Frisco by the end of the year and will be in the 7-10 prospect range in our system by this time next season.

Joe Weiland also is of some interest to me as well.  His size is projectable and he could end up becoming a solid prospect.  Another guy I think us Ranger's fans are sleeping on is newly acquired Greg Golson.  If Rudy can turn him around, which we've seen him do with players of MUCH less talent, we are looking at a top 10 top 15 athlete in all of the minors.

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I'll go with Wieland

but I also think Rangers fans will fall in love with Big Tom Diamond all over again.

by clark on Dec 1, 2008 11:16 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

oOO

love the Diamond suggestion.

45-35
Jindal '12

by Longhorn on Dec 1, 2008 11:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I dont know whats worse

delaying doing this post for the past two weeks, or having my number one and two guys off the board right off the bat. So now you know those two are going to be good, for he who chose Derek Holland has spoken.

How bout a Smoak and a pancake?

by rchawk12 on Dec 1, 2008 6:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Carlos Pimentel for me.

" He throws it where he wants it, his breaking ball kept getting better and better and of course God gave him that special arm. He's great." ~ Neftali Feliz on Derek Holland.

by Kinslerhomer on Dec 1, 2008 11:20 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

and Kyle Ocampo

" He throws it where he wants it, his breaking ball kept getting better and better and of course God gave him that special arm. He's great." ~ Neftali Feliz on Derek Holland.

by Kinslerhomer on Dec 1, 2008 12:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i like

definitely would be a guy id watch. Put up some nice numbers in ARZ, good SO numbers. Heard some good things about his stuff

by blalock84 on Dec 1, 2008 1:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wieland and Font

I like the Pimentel choices though.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 1, 2008 11:21 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Font

im thinking he may come back and remind us all about some wilmer

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Dec 1, 2008 1:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL

by lonestarJon on Dec 1, 2008 11:33 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I like Derek Holland

oh wait… you mean NEXT YEAR?

oh, I have no idea.

I guess you heard Fat Joe left Atlantic.

by Haeger Champ on Dec 1, 2008 11:23 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

surprise...Kasey Kiker!

He’ll prove that people are overlooking the former 1st round pick.

I'd love for part of the "new look" to be a return to the red uniforms of the 1990s. - Ian Kinsler

by ortonius on Dec 1, 2008 11:25 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Call it a hunch...

I like Brennan Garr to make big strides. I’d like to see him get his WHIP back to the levels he had in Clinton and Bakersfield, and maybe he could find himself having real success in OKC by the end of the season.

"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch

by ghtd36 on Dec 1, 2008 11:28 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'll take Wieland

I like what I read when he was drafted and from what I can tell he’s done nothing but improve.

I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.

by TheBZA on Dec 1, 2008 11:30 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Neil Ramirez...

If his control improves at all, he’s gonna take off…

by N41D on Dec 1, 2008 11:39 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Geuris Grullon

He’s always gotten lots of ground balls and strikeouts. Now, if he improves his command…maybe we get the left-handed Boscan in Spokane this year.

by naropean on Dec 1, 2008 11:43 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'll go with a combo of

Clark Murphy + Robbie Ross + Roark for the just drafted.
Kennil Gomez + Omar Poveda of the latinos
and
Renny Osuna + Chad Tracy of the drafted non-pitchers older guys

by blalock84 on Dec 1, 2008 11:49 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

what's

Roark’s first name? totally forgot it, just now he put up some real nice numbers at Bakersfield

by blalock84 on Dec 1, 2008 11:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Osuna

the guy hit like .340 this year at 2B and no one even talks about him, kinda funny how deep we are that we don even mention a guy like that.

by blalock84 on Dec 1, 2008 11:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tracy

its pretty much his last chance to really legitimize himself in the Rangers plans. The end of last season really showed that he can hit advanced pitching at a really good rate. He’s got the power/ on-base combo we all like, its just a matter of showing he can really put it together against upper level pitching.

by blalock84 on Dec 1, 2008 11:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Check my sig

Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Player of the Year

by RangerMad on Dec 1, 2008 11:50 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

fixed

Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year

by RangerMad on Dec 1, 2008 11:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

thats a good pick

+1

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Dec 1, 2008 1:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I am going to say

that by this time next year Vallejo will be getting some serious national love at SS.

by laxtonto on Dec 1, 2008 12:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i agree on this

he could be a nice chip to use in a trade for a pitcher, if our middle infield is already err…solidified.

by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Dec 1, 2008 6:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Neil Ram

Curve ball is a plus plus pitch in my opinion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXWLfIgc0nA

by mchang4 on Dec 1, 2008 12:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Zachary Phillips.

Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. 45 given up in the 1st quarter. Wow. But still we're better than Washington! Oh and, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-10 baby!

by sprite on Dec 1, 2008 12:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yes

I bet he does well next year…in the bullpen.

by Goyogringo on Dec 1, 2008 2:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tim Murphy

But I like Kasey Kiker and Diamond to reemerge bigtime… especially Kiker, think he shows up in shape and handles AA steadily after leaving the Cal league

"Holland didn’t make that kid question his swing, he made him question his career path"

by trident on Dec 1, 2008 12:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Kennil Gomez

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 1, 2008 12:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Blake Beavan.

I am a believer.

by coolaid on Dec 1, 2008 12:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thank you thank you thank you!!

We will both watch as he succeeds at another level. Velo is going up!!

by Michael Cave on Dec 1, 2008 1:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Beaven and Kiker are two I'm expecting great years from

but for my pick, I think I’ll go with David Paisano.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 1, 2008 1:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

this is gonna sound stupid but Andrus

i know he has always been thought of highly but i think this is the season he blows up and hit for a ton in AAA and with a solid obp. MY goes down with an injury and Andrus is our starting half the season in texas.

im still going with Font as my pick for exploding back on the scene but i could see andrus as an exploding prospect too

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Dec 1, 2008 1:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yeah Andrus is a good choice

A big year from him and you’re talking about a top 10 prospect in baseball.

In memory of Ulysses Simpson Grant Stoner. RIP Lil Stoner.

by tricer on Dec 1, 2008 7:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Robbie Ross

As of this post, one guy has mentioned Ross. Did mjh’s inverted W picture put people off that much?

I think it’ll be Ross, NRamirez and Beltre.

by LiamP on Dec 1, 2008 2:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Concur...

on Ross.

If I had to pick one guy right now it would be him.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Dec 1, 2008 10:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Vallejo

Given the community rakings, he looks the most locally underrated.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Dec 1, 2008 2:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hey

I know some can be a little critical, but let’s not suggest that he’s being tortured. :)

by Brett Perryman on Dec 1, 2008 2:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

save the rakings for Hicks.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Dec 1, 2008 4:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I suspect you know

I left out an “n” ….. rankings. But that’s comical, great catch.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Dec 1, 2008 5:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Font

will get the talk that Perez is now at this time next year. By that time everyone in baseball will be talking about the Rangers’ Latin American kids.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Dec 1, 2008 2:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wilmer: he'll have chunks of all those other guys in his stool

Wilmer in 09 = mushroom cloud-layin muthafucka…

Those who would sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither.

by Brian Thomas on Dec 1, 2008 2:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

+1 for SNL subref

What says you Sign-Aid O’connor…

by Goyogringo on Dec 1, 2008 4:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Backstory on that snl subref

Evidently, Franken and some other staff scribe wrote that line, but were uncharacteristically at a loss for many months to come up with the perfect character to throw it down.

Eventually, for those that don’t know, the choice became obvious: the genius that was Phil Hartman’s Frank Sinatra.

Those who would sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither.

by Brian Thomas on Dec 1, 2008 5:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Who then proceeded

to follow it with the Uncle Fester and Sinbad lines, great skit.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Dec 1, 2008 7:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Some of the young 'uns

on the site probably dont even know that Al Franken used to be funny. Take my word for it. At one time he actually was funny. Good times

by BEW on Dec 2, 2008 7:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Lemon.

45-35
Jindal '12

by Longhorn on Dec 1, 2008 3:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wow too many too count

I would say that anyone in the top 30 shouldnt be on here as it would be no surprise if they had a breakout season. To make it more interesting, which players not on the top 30 will have a breakout season next year?

my guesses:
Brigham, Miggie, Kirkman, Young
Bianucci, Santos, C. Murphy, Butler

DSL to Rookie/A Ball guys:
Jgrullon, Bermudez
Polanco, Pimentel, Tellis

by Goyogringo on Dec 1, 2008 3:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Agree on Miguel De Los Santos...

Miguel De Los Santos missed almost all of 2007 with injuries, but in 34.2 innings this year in the Arizona League he struck out 54 batters. That’s 14 K/9 IP.

Kyle O’Campo could also impress this year. O’Campo got a $250K bonus as a 13th round pick in 2007 (slot was about $40K) and he played pretty well in the AZL as well. He has a 90-93 MPH fastball that supposedly has good life along with a very promising slider. I’ve also read that he’s working on a curveball and a changeup.

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem, huh? Didn't you just say that suicide doesn't solve anybody's problems?

by YourNameHere on Dec 1, 2008 8:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you sure?

When Kyle O’Campo was drafted, he told Jason Cole at Scout.com that, besides his fastball, his slider was his most advanced pitch. Cole also did the Rangers Top 50 Prospects this year for Scout.com, where he wrote that O’Campo’s slider showed “definite plus potential,” and that he was working to develop a curveball and a changeup. I think Mike Hindman did a piece that said O’Campo has a curveball, not a slider, and that this was consistent with the Rangers’ philosophy. I don’t know for sure either way.

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem, huh? Didn't you just say that suicide doesn't solve anybody's problems?

by YourNameHere on Dec 2, 2008 12:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was basing it on what MJH said

But PG’s coverage of one of the showcases suggests that he has always thrown a curve that sometimes looks like a slider. So maybe that is where the confusion lies…

http://www.perfectgame.org/stories/07_03_14_updating_the_prospects_from_national/

Ocampo appeared to have more than one type of breaking ball, but in retrospect, all were likley curveballs, ranging from 70-79 mph with plus spin and hard downward bite. The thing that made all of them seem to be curveballs was that the shape did not really change, no matter the velocity.

Here is PG’s draft profile:
Pitching – over the top slot, very quick loose arm, deep extension backside, cranks it up, free and easy delivery, FB very lively at plate, good late life, plus spin on breaking ball, ranged CB velocity, all appeared to be CBs, threw some very hard, good down bite, shape stayed pretty consistent, good feel of CU, good fade action.

Here is BA’s draft profile
He throws both a slider and a curveball, and scouts like the slider a bit better at present, as he’s shown a feel for throwing it for strikes or burying it out of the zone.

by Goyogringo on Dec 2, 2008 1:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I feel like our '08 draft pitchers have the best chance

Ross will have a good year, and will jump from the 15-20 range of top prospect in our system to top 10

Joe Weiland will establish himself as a solid prospect and land in the top 20 of our prospects.

And I somehow feel that Vallejo might just be this close to getting to the big league by the end of the year….

In Smoak We Trust

by Smoak Some on Dec 1, 2008 3:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Font

EOM

"I'm not being condescending, I'm too busy thinking about far more important things you wouldn't understand." - Jimmy Carr

by Suicide Prince on Dec 1, 2008 3:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Font

Though I don’t think he should qualify, I think everyone here expects a healthy Font to impress. Reed was my guy last year and that didn’t really work out but I’ll go with Pimentel this time.

by groundingout on Dec 1, 2008 3:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Kyle O Campo

And for a position player, I’ll take Mitch Moreland.

by Schrute Farms on Dec 1, 2008 3:52 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Gomez and Weiland

are the more obvious choices.

I’ve also got Kirkman and Ben Henry as more darkhorses to put up good numbers.

by Hull Fan on Dec 1, 2008 4:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Give me the big Auburn kid

Bianucci

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 1, 2008 5:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ooooo … good one. I worry about a loss of power due to the injury tho.
Fingers crossed.

by shroomer on Dec 1, 2008 6:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Injury?

What did I miss?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 1, 2008 7:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Miguel

Alfonzo

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Dec 1, 2008 6:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Any of our prospect guru's have thoughts or feelings on him?

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Dec 1, 2008 9:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think that he

was promoted to quickly and not demoted quickly enough as he floundered all year…

by Goyogringo on Dec 2, 2008 12:33 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Whittleman

I’m changing my pick to Whittleman. I say he breaks out in Frisco to a line of .275/.390/.485.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Dec 2, 2008 1:16 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Blake Beavan

I really think that Beavan is going to make a huge leap. His velocity will make it back. With his velocity and control he could really step up.

by peachygbc_1 on Dec 1, 2008 6:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I feel like I'm a week late for Thanksgiving and the carcass is picked clean

I’ll take Poveda, because he’s one guy that already has a nice compliment of secondary stuff and a great frame. If somebody slips him some of what Holland was drinking in 08, then he could move up quick.

In memory of Ulysses Simpson Grant Stoner. RIP Lil Stoner.

by tricer on Dec 1, 2008 7:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Maximiliano

He’s gonna do to OKC what Cruz did last year. If he’s gone by Spring training or on the ML roster I’ll pick Boscan as my Prospect-to-go-nuts alternate

What's the rumpus?

by Hypo-Luxa on Dec 1, 2008 8:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think I'll predict

Yoon-Hee Nam and Glenn Swanson to have break out years. They are flying completely under the radar. Similar to where Holland was just a short while ago.

"Evolution happened, now get over it." Michael Shermer

by rodcarew on Dec 1, 2008 9:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

After dropping slightly due to the influx of talent...

I’m going with Kasey Kiker.

Already talented, but I think he really shines this year and makes his way into the top 5.

by cmkelly29 on Dec 2, 2008 7:38 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

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