Sabathia contract/Catchall Winter Meetings Post
by t ball on Dec 10, 2008 12:43 PM CST
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PrintHere's a place to dump all winter meetings rumors/signings so we don't end up with multiple diaries about the same signing like yesterday...
Back in July, just for fun, I posted a diary inviting guesses on what it would take to sign Sabathia. Here are the closest guesses from that diary to the actual 7 year, $160 million deal he signed with the Yankers:
My own: 7/$170
willamos2: 7/$150
and several others were in the neighborhood, but thedirkatron nailed it with a guess of 7/$161. Congrats, I guess. I'm sure my guess would have been correct if it weren't for the stupid economy, but I'm not bitter that DORKatron was closer.
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Yes, Yes! In the face!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
It's only halftime...
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
Suck it!
Link.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on Dec 10, 2008 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
You're practically...
Brian Cashman.
Brian Cashman also says “Suck it!”
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 10, 2008 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
x
You really said “in the face?”
-scoffs-
The actual term is “in YOUR face” or just simply “face.” Sheesh.
-smiles smugly and walks away-
x
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on Dec 10, 2008 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, so you were In the face-ing me?
Damn. I should have seen it coming.
FuturePants, Eff. Tee. (You)2.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on Dec 10, 2008 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
Nope.
From ESPN:
A preliminary agreement on a contract has been reached on a seven-year, $161 million deal.
Suck. It. Bitches.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on Dec 10, 2008 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
The question is, Are you gonna dance back???
;)
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on Dec 10, 2008 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
You jerk
I was really excited about starting a diary about the O’s signing Cesar Izturis.
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
I wanted to start one about the Mets being rumored to
about the Mets being rumored to be a little interested in Huston Street.
And another
for their interest in Juan Pierre.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
If Teixeira signs with the O's, Baltimore could be a pretty scary team in two years.
meet me at the mawwl... it's goin dowwn...
by oc on Dec 10, 2008 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
except they have the rays yanks and sox in their division...
but yeah
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
2/20
is rumored to be the price for Wood to the Indians. I would have been disappointed if the Rangers had given him that much.
Fire Ron Washington
So...
I was checking out the development that Law and Neyer were added to the Baseball Writers Association of America and went to their website: http://www.baseballwriters.org/
Oh god…it burns to look at.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 10, 2008 1:10 PM CST reply actions
i see theyre
still using adobe pagemill apparently
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Dec 10, 2008 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
god damn did rosenthals 4 year old make that site?
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
A lime green hatchback!
It’s a thing of beauty!
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 10, 2008 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
the goggles they do nothing!
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
i think it is funny
that JD worked so hard to temper expectations when it comes to FA and the prospect of bringing in young pitching via a trade, and then Nolan, in the span of about 24 hours, talks about his love of Buchholz, his optimism about signing Sheets, and now his good relationship with Randy Johnson. On one hand, with NR, we would have pretty much nothing Rangers related to talk about, on the other, it will cause a lot of grumbling if we leave LV without any more action.
it will cause a lot of grumbling if when we leave LV without any more action.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
My whole life has been grumbling about leaving Vegas without more action...
by bking on Dec 10, 2008 1:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
damn Bob
if you can’t get your fill of action in Vegas, where do you go to get your fill of action?
Don't believe the hype about sloppy seconds. They ain't bad.
As a former single sailor, I can testify to the greatness that is Thailand
And as a former San Diegan, I can furthermore give due propers to the fact that I have the address to the location of the Devil’s parking lot: Revolucion and La Calle Cinco, Tijuana, B.C., Mexico.
Nah, noob.
by Brian Thomas on Dec 10, 2008 7:25 PM CST up reply actions
been wonderin about that, too
Nolan sure is visible there. How is this effecting JD’s wheelings and dealings?
Who knows … JD may enjoy leaving the circus to Nolan.
That was my thought
Daniels is probably happy to have Ryan there to deal with the media a bit.
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I know bigsteve was bitching very loudly....
…but if there is one thread for ALL winter meetings news, a lot will get lost in the shuffle, and viewing posts gets a bit sketchy after 150+ comments. I don’t really have a problem with some being separated out, but I understand the effort here.
I think everyone would be fine
with another post if this one gets up to 150 comments or so.
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A One,
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
A two-HOO
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
A three...CRUNCH!
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
And to clarify
Im fine with seperate fanposts when it is for guys either on the Rangers, Rangers signings, or significant players either leaving or coming to our division. Its the ones about Rafael Furcal going to Toronto and the multiple Chicago Tribune and Multiple K-Rod ones that irk me.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
How about RJ and Sheets?
He (Nolan Ryan) said that Johnson and Ben Sheets are the two free agent pitchers in which the Rangers are willing to invest
get it done, but i’m guessing that would mean a millwood trade?
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
There's no way they get both.
Even 1 is unlikely.
randy johnson
that’s kind of dumb – and some unnecessary nolan ryan bias
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
what's wrong with RJ?
he had 30 starts last year, still is pretty good. I wouldn’t mind him being here one bit…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
RJ
I don’t personally want to see a 42 year old whos only going to be here one year max take time away from our young guys like McCarthy, Hurley, Harrison and others who are supposed to be the backbone of our rotation for the next 5-10 years. Performance has nothing to do with it. if we were one pitcher away from being a WS contender then maybe. But as we are currently constructed I don’t want him.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
randy johnson wishes he was 42
though I think I would like the signing
the preceding post was a great success.
He's actually 45
"Colt mccoy sucks, mack brown needs to be fired." - Longhorn
by LSBUser on Dec 10, 2008 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
Really?
Wow that makes it even worse. Dear god I would be so pissed if we brought in a 45 year old who is taking starts away from guys 20 years younger than him. I would much rather watch a 25 year old struggle next year rather than a 45 year old
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
if he just takes millwood or padilla's spot
it’s no big deal. it’s good to have a really good pitcher regardless of age to eat some innings and give your team a chance to win.
it’s really hard to develop anything if your starter gives you 3.2 innings and you are down 8 runs.
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
does it really make any difference whatsoever that hes 45, 42 or 31?
as long as its a 1 year contract, someone without a future with the team, what difference does it make?
Randy Johnson can still pitch.
Now, rather I’d want to have him depends on what the rangers would do exactly. Do I want a rotation of RJ, Millwood, Padilla and only two spots for young guys we already have? Not really, though it wouldnt be the end of the world.
But if someone else is traded, we don’t add any young pitchers in a catcher trade so theres less pressure, etc… he could fit.
I wouldnt want them to just throw him a bunch of money and say well theres our offseason, but they should be talking to him as an option, and act on it if things fall that way.
the preceding post was a great success.
That does make a difference
Our young guys are ready to play in the big leagues. last year that wasn’t the case at this time. Hurley had half a year, and unspectacular half year at that, under his belt in AAA. Harrison hadn’t hit AAA yet. I could handle a one year deal then. But now our young guys are ready to be in the bigs and I don’t want a 45 year old taking that away from them. Like i said if we were one pitcher away from being a WS contender then sure give it a shot. but we aren’t.
Now if we get rid of one of our veterans and can’t sign Sheets then I would be somewhat interested in Randy Johnson on a one year deal. I don’t think it would happen but if he is taking Millwood or Padillas spot for only a year that is bearable
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
backbone of a rotation?
if McCarthy, Hurley, Harrison are the "backbone of our rotation for the next 5-10 years, we are in for another looooooooooooooooong decade.
Don't believe the hype about sloppy seconds. They ain't bad.
Ok backbone wasn't the best term
But solid contributors I think is more accurate. I expect Holland and Feliz or Main to be the backbone but McCarthy, Hurley, and Harison should be solid contributors.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Wow
You expect all 5 rotation spots to be filled by guys currently in the organization? That would be amazing.
"Colt mccoy sucks, mack brown needs to be fired." - Longhorn
by LSBUser on Dec 10, 2008 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
I could see it
Holland
Main
McCarthy
Hurley
Harrison
Feliz as the closer
That could very easily happen within the next 3 years. A stud FA veteran would be nice but TB didn’t have one of those. It can be done. All those guys I listed above would, or should, have at least one year in the majors in three years time. That would be Main. Holland will probably have 2+, and McCarthy, Hurley, and Harrison should have 3+.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
you're right
i thought his season was much worse. but basically, if you want him to do what padilla or millwood would be doing, he’d have a high probability of doing it better.
i wonder how much he’s asking for
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
ahh
becomes a bit clearer??
Johnson is also close to Mark Connor, the Rangers’ former pitching coach who is still with the organization as a consultant.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
so we've got...
maddux for sheets
connor for RJ
nolan ryan for everyone….
who else can we hire..
the preceding post was a great success.
A new manager?
"Colt mccoy sucks, mack brown needs to be fired." - Longhorn
by LSBUser on Dec 10, 2008 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but that's over now
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
Which is a different thing altogether than
helping him grip his magnificence…
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He did...
but, he also had been saying it since the Nolan Ryan: Feel The Heat video.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 10, 2008 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
I loved that video when I was little....
I remember watching that and Nolan said he threw his fastball with 3 fingers, so that is how I threw.
Gary Sheffield?
Gerry Fraley strikes again:
2:55 p.m. — Rangers ask about Sheffield
Texas has contacted Detroit about the availability of outfielder-designated hitter Gary Sheffield.
The Ranges need a middle-of-the-lineup bat to replace Milton Bradley, headed out of town as a free agent. Sheffield carries risks. He is 40 years old and has been troubled by shoulder problems in recent seasons. Sheffield last had a 30-homer, 100-RBI season in 2005. —Gerry Fraley
In other news...
The BBWAA added Christina Kahrl, Will Carroll, Keith Law and Rob Neyer. Well deserved.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
I guess I'm a phobe
but Kahrl kinda freaks me out.
Don't believe the hype about sloppy seconds. They ain't bad.
There is something
just icky about having your boys lopped off. Just thinking about it makes me queasy.
Nolan Ryan is the Greatest Pitcher ever, because Google says so.
"BTW I’m officially welching ab03. Yeah I planned too all along, but I figured I’d try to get off the hook with double or nothing first."- Sharky
Seconded.
I’m all for a person’s pursuit of happiness in any way that doesn’t hurt someone else or infringe on the rights of others, but that doesn’t mean I have to pretend it doesn’t repulse the shit right out of me.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on Dec 10, 2008 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
But if you were really ALL “for a person’s pursuit of happiness in any way that doesn’t hurt someone else or infringe on the rights of others,” you would probably keep that thought to yourself, and not post said thought on a widely read message board.
Don’t you think?
Nah, noob.
by Brian Thomas on Dec 10, 2008 7:30 PM CST up reply actions
What are you talking about?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on Dec 10, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
I completely
forgot that story until now.
Ick.
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
The LA Times says the O’s are coming in hot on Tex
The Yankees’ imminent signing of free-agent left-hander CC Sabathia to a seven-year, $160-million deal would seem to take them out of the running for Mark Teixeira, but that will hardly ease the competition the Angels face in retaining the free-agent first baseman.
According to a source from a team who is involved in negotiations, the Washington Nationals and Baltimore Orioles “are coming in hot” on Teixeira, with the Nationals apparently willing to offer the slugger a 10-year deal for more than $20 million a year and the Orioles willing to go nine years for at least $20 million a year.
meet me at the mawwl... it's goin dowwn...
He deserves to be
on that crappy Nats team for 10 years.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
That would be the ultimate justice
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
If the Nats sign him, do they lose the No. 1 pick? Or 10A?
meet me at the mawwl... it's goin dowwn...
by oc on Dec 10, 2008 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, it is protected.
meet me at the mawwl... it's goin dowwn...
by oc on Dec 10, 2008 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
neither
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Yes. A brainfart.
meet me at the mawwl... it's goin dowwn...
by oc on Dec 10, 2008 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
Yup.
All those premature haters above are promptly invited to a party in my pants.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on Dec 10, 2008 6:17 PM CST up reply actions
Milwood to Mil?
The Rangers are talking to the Brewers about pitching, The Brewers need a pitcher after losing C.C. Sabathia and they like Kevin Millwood. General manager Doug Melvin has a high regard for him. Vicente Padilla is another possiblity.
The Rangers need a right-handed bat. Would they like Gary Sheffield? Maybe.
Here is what one Rangers official said, “Would consider it if they wanted to give him away. Not going to spend money there.”
Sheffield, 40, makes $14 million in 2009. He hit .225 last season with 19 home runs and 57 RBI
I would do the deal if they have a deal in place for Sheets… Regardless of what you get in return for Millwood
Hmm?
Milwaukee is going to trade Sheffield to the Rangers for Millwood? What a steal for the Brewers? :)
No to Johnson and Sheffield. Would the Brewers give up Stetter ( lefty, 30 ML IP, 35ks, 3.26 era, 1.220 whip) or do we need to settle on a prospect such as Jeffress or Peralta?
4) Jeremy Jeffress, RHP, Grade B: Huge upside with 100 MPH fastball, putting things together gradually, still learning to pitch.
12) Wily Peralta, RHP, Grade C+: A high upside arm, but a long way from the majors
http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/stettmi01.shtml
http://www.minorleagueball.com/
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
settle on Jeffress?
yes please.
i would also keep in mind 3B Taylor Green and LHP Zach Braddock, as well as ML pitcher Carlos Villanueva, who has pitched much better in the bullpen.
Shef
Only if mondo-craniumed Barry hooks him up with a new roid connect.
Shef hasn’t been good since he got off the juice…
If we did pick him up, I say put his locker right next to a certain shortstop who last slugged big in 05.
Nah, noob.
by Brian Thomas on Dec 10, 2008 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
Yanks/Brewers Trade
The Yanks have reportedly traded Melky Cabrera to the Brewers for Mike Cameron.
"Colt mccoy sucks, mack brown needs to be fired." - Longhorn
by LSBUser on Dec 11, 2008 8:47 AM CST reply actions
Cameron
Since one of the primary reasons they exercised Cameron’s option was to try and entice Sabathia to come back, I’m not surprised he’s on his way out. The newest update says the deal isn’t done yet.
Johnson :(
Who is running this team? Am I the only one that would be disappointed if the Rangers sign Randy Johnson?
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
I am ambivalent
I am not in favor of it but it wouldn’t be horrible.
"Colt mccoy sucks, mack brown needs to be fired." - Longhorn
by LSBUser on Dec 11, 2008 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
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