Ummm

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 11, 2008 8:44 PM CST Comment 41 comments

Relief pitcher Kyle Farnsworth and the Kansas City Royals reached a preliminary agreement on a $9.25 million, two-year contract Thursday.

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do they lose a draft pick?

Don't believe the hype about sloppy seconds. They ain't bad.

by tricer on Dec 11, 2008 8:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

No

He wasn’t a Type A or B.

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by Andy Seiler on Dec 11, 2008 8:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

no, just our stomachs

oh, and a few ballgames

by kabrink on Dec 12, 2008 8:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You forgot

The $1.8 million they’re going to pay Horacio Ramirez. Some teams have to suck for others to get better…

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by Andy Seiler on Dec 11, 2008 8:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

true

by blalock84 on Dec 12, 2008 12:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Looks like they’re trading away relievers and then spending a bunch to replace them. Wouldn’t it have been easier to just spend a boatload on good players and kept their relievers?

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by DerekSTheRed on Dec 11, 2008 8:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Gross.

by brettgardner on Dec 11, 2008 8:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

My best guess...

…would be that they’re trying to do like Texas did with Eric Gagne, and flip him at the deadline.

But then why the two-year deal?

Nothing about this makes sense.

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by ghtd36 on Dec 11, 2008 8:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

heh

Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
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by Longhorn on Dec 11, 2008 8:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Moore

I honestly think one of us could do a better job as KC’s GM.

by Randy Richardson on Dec 11, 2008 8:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

yeah

I didn’t believe those Francouer for Greinke rumors…but…now…umm…who knows?

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by Dirk Diggler on Dec 11, 2008 8:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

it makes you wonder about KC's management

I’ll offer them a bag of dirt and a Juan Gonzalez jersey for Greinke.

Wait 'til the year after next

by NothinG on Dec 12, 2008 9:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Don't be an idiot... Moore is doing what he has to do.

It’s not like he’s getting boxed in with long-term players.

Farnsworth, Crisp and Jacobs are mere stopgaps until their ultra-cool farm starts paying off… which is about a year off our clock.

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by oc on Dec 11, 2008 9:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Royals

I have no real problem with the Crisp and Jacobs acquisition (although Jacobs really sucks at getting on base). But, just with some quick math, he has easily over $10 million next year devoted to his non-closers in the bullpen – that’s a very poor allocation of resources for a limited payroll team. And, he couldn’t even give Guillen and his contract away for free right now.

by Randy Richardson on Dec 11, 2008 9:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

and . . .

I don’t know much of anything about the Royals farm system, so if he’s doing well there then he deserves kudos for that.

by Randy Richardson on Dec 11, 2008 9:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

He is

imo

by Brett Perryman on Dec 11, 2008 10:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Really?

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by philkid3 on Dec 11, 2008 10:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes

We’ve been through this, but I think that Hosmer and Moustakas rank with pretty much any pair of positional prospects, though they aren’t knocking on the door. And I think that they have a really nice cluster of pitching prospects ranging from Cortes down to Montgomery. You can argue about where they rank, but I think that what they supply their major league team look pretty good.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 12, 2008 12:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

This year is basically the Royals auditioning for Greinke.

If they can compete in what should be a competitive division, then Greinke might stick around.

And if things go in the pisser, like I expect them to, he can pull off a firesale very similar to the one Daniels had in ’07.

Grienke can be flipped for what will no-doubt be a plus package of prospects…
Crisp can be flipped… (everyone’s looking for speedy outfielders at the trade deadline)
Jacobs can be flipped.

Bam… Kansas City has the best farm system next year.

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by oc on Dec 12, 2008 12:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The farm is good and getting better.

It reminds me of the Rays circa 2004. The Royals are putting together a talented farm system but evidence is mounting that the GM is terrible at resource allocation, major league roster building and long-term planning. Looks like a recipe for mediocrity.

by RATW on Dec 12, 2008 12:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

If they give teams a window for Greinke

so that they could sign him to an extension prior to trade, I bet they get even more in terms of prospect value.

This is an exciting time in my life.

The LSB CPP's are in full bloom.

by Chase Irwin on Dec 12, 2008 6:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

So did teahan and gordon

by BuckyB on Dec 12, 2008 9:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Well, Gordon and Butler anyway. But if we’re just going to discount all prospects because previous ones have somewhat disappointed, a discussion on how their system looks is irrelevent.

I mean Chris Davis and Justin Smoak look good, but so did Ruben Mateo, so I guess they’ll suck too.

Also, those weren’t Dayton Moore pickups anyway, so it’s coincidental at most.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 12, 2008 9:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

and isn't it a bit early to discount those players?

Gordon had an .888 OPS in the second half, and I’m real confident that Billy Butler is going to hit in the major leagues, he was 22! last year.

Don't believe the hype about sloppy seconds. They ain't bad.

by tricer on Dec 12, 2008 9:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Right

by Brett Perryman on Dec 12, 2008 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

+2

This is an exciting time in my life.

The LSB CPP's are in full bloom.

by Chase Irwin on Dec 12, 2008 6:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I know a KC fan who thinks Dayton Moore is the best GM in baseball.

And laughed at me for disagreeing like I was crazy.

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by philkid3 on Dec 11, 2008 10:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think he's great

but he’s far from the worst. It’s really difficult to rebuild, every team has different circumstances and a different talent base to start with. Sure he’s made some questionable decisions, but that organization was in very, very bad shape when he took over, from top to bottom.

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by t ball on Dec 11, 2008 11:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Correct, and our owner

is the hardest in the league to pry any money out of. Although, Farnsworth tends to look otherwise.

by kabrink on Dec 12, 2008 8:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The Peter Principle was due

Little vindication since the Sara Palin nomination…

Nah, noob.

by Brian Thomas on Dec 11, 2008 9:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

BTB posted about this

here. If Moore is building a good farm system, what are his major league scouts doing? Playing practical jokes on him? Does Vegas have a gambling line open for which GM will make the worst offseason acquisition?

by jwiscarson on Dec 11, 2008 10:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs