OT: Heisman Trophy Poll
by pblack on Dec 12, 2008 12:12 PM CST
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While I recognize that many no longer care about the Heisman, this year's trophy is the closest in years. Two of the candidates play in the Rangers' region and so I thought we should have a Lone Star Ball poll. In the comments please feel free to include the order you rank the players or your reason for picking the player you did.
My vote goes to McCoy because I think he did the most with the least. I am an OU fan, but I think Bradford's supporting cast is much more talented than McCoy's. I would vote Bradford second and Tebow third.
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I say colt, not just because I like the Longhorns but when you compare all of the stats, passing,running, accuracy, etc he is the better all around between him,bradford and tebow.
if colt doesnt win bradford deserves to.
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by rentz on Dec 12, 2008 12:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a UT or OU fan
I would have to say Colt. Is he breaking a record this year for accuracy. If not, he’s close to it.
If Bradford wins, I can understand that. These are two great quarterbacks.
If Tebow wins, it would be a travesty and a pure media politically driven pick.
Wait 'til the year after next
by NothinG on Dec 12, 2008 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Colt
…has eye poppingly gaudy numbers in some games, and is merely ok in others. His averages are really high, but his performance is a little uneven. Bradford would have my vote BABIES.
by FuturePants on Dec 12, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Colt for Me...
He did manage to beat Bradford straight up. Twice.
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by eglooney on Dec 12, 2008 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bradford was RS'ed when Colt won the RRSO in 2006.
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by utlonghorn24 on Dec 12, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And
Colt lost to A&M twice in the past, but should that negatively affect his Heisman standing? Should good performance vs. OU two years ago positively affect his Heisman standing? I just keep things confined to this year.
by FuturePants on Dec 12, 2008 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the best
numbers wise when you compare all 3 side by side he is clearly not the best.
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by rentz on Dec 12, 2008 12:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He has 40 TDs and 2 turnovers the entire season
by Beasticon on Dec 12, 2008 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Numbers
He also has the lowest completion percentage , fewest passing yards, second in rushing yards and second in yards per carry.
Colt has the same number of td’s but yes he had 7 interceptions. He also threw for 3,445 yards to Tebows 2,515.
The case for bradford is he has 53tds and 6 int’s. and way more passing yards, and is second among the 3 in completion percentage.
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by rentz on Dec 12, 2008 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He also is going to win the national championship
and is the greatest leader in college football and probably one of the best college football players ever.
by Beasticon on Dec 12, 2008 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and he came up big in all the big games.
by Beasticon on Dec 12, 2008 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OleMiss begs to differ
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by rentz on Dec 12, 2008 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
going to win the national championship?
so did ou see the big bad tebow and forfeit already?
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by rentz on Dec 12, 2008 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
one of the best ever?
…yet he will not play for multiple years in the NFL.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 12, 2008 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
uh..
he’s a 1st round pick. probably will end up being jeff garcia type.
colt mccoy is like a 3-5th rounder.
by Beasticon on Dec 12, 2008 5:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
really?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 12, 2008 5:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
McCoy
Late 1st – earl 2nd right now, potentially top 10, better than Stafford.. who some have going to the Lions with the first pick, which would be a horrible pick, imo.
Tebow, I have no idea.
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‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
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by tyd3311 on Dec 12, 2008 5:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
McCoy is not a 1st rounder, read any draft report.
Tebow is a mid 1st rounder.
by Beasticon on Dec 12, 2008 6:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Currently projected as high as a possible second round pick for the 2010 NFL Draft, the 6-3, 210 lb McCoy certainly has the right make-up to success at the NFL level.
by Beasticon on Dec 12, 2008 6:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Welll, all I can say is
there is no doubt in my mind he is a better quarterback than Stafford.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Dec 12, 2008 6:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree, i think stafford sucks.
nfl scouts love his arm for some reason though.
by Beasticon on Dec 12, 2008 6:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
because its better than tebow?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 13, 2008 12:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's b/c
he has all the phyiscal tools and has the size, plus he’s in a pro style offense. matt ryan came from a pro offense last year and was able to come in this year and do quite well for himself, i didnt think he’d do that this year given his INT #‘s last year but he’s doing it.
i doubt stafford will do the same especially w/the lions but who knows
by studcrackers on Dec 13, 2008 8:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan had way less talent surrounding him.
I just think Stafford would absolutely be another bad bad draft pick for the Lions.. Given the weakness of this draft, the Lions should trade out of that pick, and collect some more high round picks to go along with what they got from us.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Dec 13, 2008 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this isnt a weak draft
from a qb perspective ive heard it is but there’s a lot of depth, especially in the middle rounds. if u want a lineman or db this is your draft
and i realize ryan had less talent but he still threw 20 int’s, im just saying they both come from pro style offenses, perhaps stafford can come in next season and step in and perform
by studcrackers on Dec 14, 2008 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The reason they love his arm
Because it’s a freaking cannon. The second he is drafted he will have the best arm in the NFL.
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by DaheelzCM on Dec 13, 2008 9:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jay Cutler
will have something to say about that.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Dec 13, 2008 9:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Literally.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Dec 13, 2008 9:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
JaMarcus and Kyle Boller
are one in the same.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Dec 13, 2008 5:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they both suck
but JaMarcus has a cannon
I think he threw it through the goal post on his knees from the 50 yard line
by Beasticon on Dec 13, 2008 5:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Boller did it first.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Dec 14, 2008 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's like, your opinion
man
"Holland didn’t make that kid question his swing, he made him question his career path"
by trident on Dec 12, 2008 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nice marmot
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Dec 12, 2008 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's it....
I’m watching Lebowski tonight, fo sho
"Holland didn’t make that kid question his swing, he made him question his career path"
by trident on Dec 12, 2008 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Give me Bradford
But I am a homer though
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on Dec 12, 2008 12:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It pains me to say it as a UT homer
But, Bradford played better when it mattered. Even though he lost to UT, he still went 28-39 for 387, 71% completion & 5 TDs. He had one game below 255 pass yds, one game below 55% completion, no games with less than 2 tds, and no games with more than 2 ints. He may have a better supporting cast, but he came up big in the big games.
Don't bring opinions to a fact check debate.
by sunlegend54 on Dec 12, 2008 1:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bradford
while I support McCoy, I certainly wouldn’t be disappointed if Bradford won.
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by rentz on Dec 12, 2008 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
Tebow should be there, but shouldn’t win. I can see the argument voting Bradford over Colt, but Tebow over Colt doesn’t make any sense
"Holland didn’t make that kid question his swing, he made him question his career path"
by trident on Dec 12, 2008 1:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
tebow over either of them or even harrell doesnt make sense to me
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 12, 2008 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Crabtree.
Without a doubt the best player in the nation, IMO.
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by ghtd36 on Dec 12, 2008 1:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Colt McCoy
Clearly, did the most with the least.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Dec 12, 2008 1:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That's why I think he deserves it
Bradford had the better season, but also has the much better offensive weapons. McCoy had Shipley and that was it. Texas had no run game and their WRs aren’t too good if you look past Shipley.
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by Gdawg on Dec 12, 2008 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dont underrate cosby
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 12, 2008 5:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i would love for colt to win it
but i doubt he does.
and i dont know if he is better than bradford anyway…(i really dont think he is)
thereofre, i voteed bradford
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 12, 2008 1:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
do heisman voters release their votes?
like who voted for who?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 12, 2008 1:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
home depot awards
i like how they really clear up the picture for us last night. bradford wins qb of the year, mccoy wins player of the year, and tebow is named best all around player. lol
by selppuc on Dec 12, 2008 1:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I only care because
I have no interest in Tebow winning it. Tim Tebow is the Jimmy Rollins of the CFB. He has fun stat lines which, while different than the norm, are no better than any of the traditional quarterbacks. His teams are very good but really not substantially better (or worse) than a number of other like teams. The Florida program is so incredibly strong on both sides of the ball I find it hard to give him any more credit for team performance than any other big conference team (like Oklahoma or Texas). That being said, you have to go with the player that has better numbers. Tebow’s numbers are good and different, but certainly not substantially better than Bradford or McCoy. A 20-20 season is not better than having the greatest completion percentage in CFS history or for being the first team to score 60 points in 5 straight games. Those are bigger accomplishments.
That being said I went Bradford over McCoy because I find it a toss up and I’m an Aggie fan
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by Heebs on Dec 12, 2008 1:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So, winning six straight...
…SEC games by a minimum of 28 points doesn’t count for anything? To me, that’s way more impressive than 60 points scored in five straight games. Defense wins championships!
Florida Gators – 2008 BCS Champs!
(As an aside, I’m a diehard Gator fan, as my dad is an alum. I don’t think Tebow deserves the Heisman this year, but he’ll win it because Bradford and McCoy are going to split votes, while Tebow will dominate in his region. Historically, the voting is very skewed and whoever dominates in his “home” region pretty much ALWAYS wins the Heisman…)
"Hello win column..."
by rangersfan34 on Dec 12, 2008 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Defense Wins Championships...
Than that comment has no place in the discussion. Unless of course Tebow also plays linebacker. The SEC argument is as weak this year as it will ever be. The Big 12 South alone was stronger than the entire SEC. Add in Missouri and you’ve got a blowout.
The Big 12 was/is far and away the strongest conference this year.
And I’m a Gopher Alum. Big 10 = not cool right now.
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by Heebs on Dec 12, 2008 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I brought up the defense issue, because P.N.
brought up the 60 points in five games issue. OU will never score 60 points against the Gator defense. Argue all you want about how weak the SEC was this year, Florida dominated the league like no other team EVER has, and that was as much due to their defense as it was to Tebow or anything else…
"Hello win column..."
by rangersfan34 on Dec 12, 2008 6:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm thinking
mccoy. all three have a good case but mccoy picks up sympathy votes based off of what is largely believed to be a national championship game snub.
by selppuc on Dec 12, 2008 1:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i dont know whats gonna be better
if OU blows them out or if its a close florida win
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 12, 2008 1:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pulling for a blowout
Give me 60 again! lol
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on Dec 12, 2008 1:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good luck with that...
My prediction:
Florida – 45
Oklahoma – 24
The Gator defense WILL shut down the Sooners…
"Hello win column..."
by rangersfan34 on Dec 12, 2008 3:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry I don't think so
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on Dec 12, 2008 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bradford
Doesn’t he have some gnarly fingers right now? Are they supposed to be completely healed by the game?
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by Heebs on Dec 12, 2008 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
On his non throwing hand
He will be ready by Jan. 8.
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on Dec 12, 2008 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nor do i
if its a blowout – its def in OUs favor
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 12, 2008 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As much as I dislike the Sooners
being a TCU fan, I can safely say we have a better D than Florida, sacked Bradford more than he’d been sacked all season, held DeMarco Murray to less than 1 YPC, and still got beat 35-10. They have so many weapons. I’m not rooting for OU, but to think they’ll get blown out like that, nah. Shouldn’t happen.
I’ll say 45-42. But it could go as a win for either. Looks like a good matchup.
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by Maximilian on Dec 12, 2008 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Where's the None of the Above option?
Graham Harrell
Though I’d have McCoy second and Bradford third on my ballot.
by philkid3 on Dec 12, 2008 2:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm very much fine with McCoy or Bradford, though.
Close year IMO. Even Tebow, who would probably be fifth on my list, is closer to No. 1 than No. 5 usually is.
by philkid3 on Dec 12, 2008 2:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bradford
With Mccoy coming in a distant second.
Teabow not even close.
No Texas Tech player should ever be invited, system players.
by SaltyGoesYard on Dec 12, 2008 2:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I've never understood that logic.
And I’m not just saying it because I’m a Tech homer. I don’t think it’s a sustainable argument if you extend it past the buzzwords.
by brettgardner on Dec 12, 2008 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
Harrell is the only one of those three who doesn’t look to the sideline along the rest of his team whenever the coach calls the audible. Graham does it himself, without the system (coach) telling him
by kevinkinsler on Dec 12, 2008 5:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
although i forgot
McCoy, Tebow, and Bradford just tell their receivers to do whatever the hell they want…who needs a playbook
by kevinkinsler on Dec 12, 2008 5:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who you got?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Dec 12, 2008 5:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For
Heisman? Meh. I know I’m out on an island, but it’s hard for me to believe that a guy like Aaron Curry isn’t a better football player than Colt McCoy.
Of the guys invited, Bradford is probably the most deserving.
by brettgardner on Dec 13, 2008 2:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would probably go...
1) Bradford
2) Teabow
3) McCoy
There is a legit case to be made for all three. I would also include Graham Harrell in the discussion. I don’t think he’s that far behind those 3 either.
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by slc ranger on Dec 12, 2008 3:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
1-McCoy
2-Bradford
3-Tebow
McCoy has been an overall better quarterback this year even though his coach doesn’t leave him in the entire game when they are up by 40 just so he can pad his stats and run up the score.
by Stevoo on Dec 12, 2008 3:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
True dat
Bob Stoops is partial to running up the score once in a while.
I’d give it to McCoy because he managed to get a lot out of an offensive unit that you can’t really describe as “great”, moreso “solid”.
by jonthefon on Dec 12, 2008 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So the Horns are a
One player team?
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on Dec 12, 2008 4:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
johnson/gresham/iglacias vs cosby/shepley lol
OU def has more weapons, and yes, i woudl still vote for bradford
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 12, 2008 5:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shipley is a very good player
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on Dec 12, 2008 10:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
as is crosby but 2 weapons + no RB < 3 good weapons + 2+ good RB
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 13, 2008 12:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't say it's a one-man team
But on the offensive side, Texas have less offensive weapons than they had last year (where they underachieved). McCoy led the team in rushing, which basically indicates their limited running game. Shipley and Cosby have both shown themselves to be good receivers, but most people would take OU’s receiving corps.
Okay, fine, I still have a little bias towards the Sooners. Just a little.
by jonthefon on Dec 12, 2008 7:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What about Bo Levi Mitchell?
Yeah I go to SMU…does leading the nation in pics(when you didn’t even play the whole year) not get you anywhere in the heisman convo?? What about leading your team to an 11 loss season in the always difficult Conference USA? Those are as impressive of stats as you are likely to see…
On a serious note…give me Tebow, simply because of his awesome press conference speech after Florida’s loss to Ole Miss. He transformed that team and became a leader in every sense of the word. Florida wins the national championship, they’re legit.
by rangerjake on Dec 12, 2008 5:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
so lets get this straight, tebow wins because of a fucking speech in a press conf?
even though he is below the other 2 in stats, and behind harrell in stats as well?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 12, 2008 5:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Heisman
isn’t awarded because of press conferences.
also i’d say OU is pretty legit and they will have something to say about people proclaiming florida champions
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by rentz on Dec 12, 2008 6:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Stoops:
Overall 109-23 (0.826)
Bowls 4-5 (0.444)
Meyer:
Overall 82–17
Bowls 5–1
its not like hes not getting there, its not like hes a shitty coach
they said/say the same thing about mack
and to say that OU isnt going to win because of their coach is simply stupid.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 13, 2008 12:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
when you lose to boise state
and you’re OU, thats sad.
by Beasticon on Dec 13, 2008 6:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
losing to an unranked Ole miss is sad too
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by rentz on Dec 13, 2008 7:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i dont understand this statement
yes ole miss was unranked at the time but they were also underrated, they’re easily the 3rd best team in the conference and they will give tech a game once the cotton bowl comes around
by studcrackers on Dec 13, 2008 8:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's easy
everyone acts like florida is the greatest team since sliced bread. bottom line they lost to an unranked team and in my opinion should NOT be competing for a national title. That goes for other teams that lost to unranked teams such as usc too.
Also, third best team in the conference is not ranked which clearly shows the conference is weak. The third best team in the big 12 is texas tech who was very high in the standings most of the year. (i say that and tech likely chokes in the cotton bowl)
Now had ou or texas lost to an unranked team i’d say the exact same thing.
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by rentz on Dec 13, 2008 9:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tech
Has no recent history of choking in bowl games.
by brettgardner on Dec 13, 2008 11:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
didnt say they did
was more saying because i said what i did they’ll end up choking.
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by rentz on Dec 13, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this is like saying that my HS football team was undefeated when we didnt even have a football program
OU has lost to teams in BCS games.
tech has not even made it to a bcs game
hard to compare
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 13, 2008 4:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
Who’s comparing Tech and OU?
by brettgardner on Dec 13, 2008 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
at least boise made it to a freaking BCS bowl
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 13, 2008 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think OU is better all round.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
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by tyd3311 on Dec 12, 2008 6:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
eh idk about on defense.
but on offense, yes. hands down.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 13, 2008 12:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would say...
1-McCoy
2-Bradford
3-Harrell
4-Tebow
Colt had an incredible 77.6 % percentage; led his team in passing and rushing. He’s the man, with Bradford a close second (though his stats were inflated in blowout wins).
Re. Tebow, who has Florida played all season besides Alabama?
by 4Him on Dec 13, 2008 6:32 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Miami
@ Tennessee
LSU
@ Georgia
@ Vanderbilt
South Carolina
@ Florida State
Alabama
In those games, Tebow had 19 TD, 0 INT, 8 rushing TD
by Beasticon on Dec 13, 2008 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Miami – not good
LSU – not good
Tennessee – sucks
Georgia – overrated this year
Vandy – decent for them
South Carolina – not good
FSU – very young team
Bama – best team of the bunch
Big whoop
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on Dec 13, 2008 5:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you left out ole miss
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Dec 13, 2008 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a Sooner
And I would vote McCoy before I would vote for Tebow this year.
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on Dec 13, 2008 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thats cool
because i’d vote bradford way ahead of tebow.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Dec 13, 2008 6:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
bradford wins it
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Dec 13, 2008 7:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
curse of the heisman winner
in the championship game…
by selppuc on Dec 13, 2008 8:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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