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Happy birthday, Rick Helling

Happy birthday to Rick Helling, who turns 38 today.

Folks often forget that Helling was traded away, as a prospect, by the Rangers, along with Ryan Dempster, for John Burkett.  The Rangers ended up getting him back for Ed Vosberg in 1997, in what was a pretty good deal for Doug Melvin.

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Was this the trade for Burkett

or the ridiculous trade for Burkett’s rights, and then we didn’t sign him.

I remember the 2 trades for Burkett were amongst the worst of Melvin’s tenure.

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by DJCahill on Dec 15, 2008 2:50 PM CST reply actions  

The trade for Burkett...

in 1996 wasn’t too bad. He helped down the stretch get the team in the playoffs and actually won his game in that evil ALDS.

The 1994 trade for Burkett was just stupid.

by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 15, 2008 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

yup

he’ll always be known for winning the Rangers first ever playoff game

In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home

by MayurP on Dec 15, 2008 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah we are 1-9 in the playoffs.

F U Yanks.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 15, 2008 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes...

well, I meant ever in the future as well.

It was a moment of despair.

by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 15, 2008 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

It seems like we traded for him

and then non-tendered him. At least that is how I project my memory of what happened onto the rules today. Does anyone know if that is what happened, or why the team would do that? Why trade for a guy who you aren’t going to tender an offer to?

by JBImaknee on Dec 15, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

We released him

Had a choice between Kenny Rogers and Burkett due to their salaries supposedly. Granted him free agency when the strike ended, no costs added. Read this.

by Andy Seiler on Dec 15, 2008 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 15, 2008 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Not that I ever actually thought about it much.

’98 was about the first time I was even aware of baseball stats other than batting average and home runs.

I really never did put much stock in wins, but Rick Helling and some others were the people that called to my attention that they were worthless.

by philkid3 on Dec 15, 2008 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

yes, you thought much

cause you got a big boner appreantly when Helling got 20 wins

by cowpoke on Dec 15, 2008 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Check his diary

That comment was erudite.

Nothing pithy here. Please move long.

by WyoRanger on Dec 15, 2008 7:17 PM CST up reply actions  

LMAO!

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Dec 17, 2008 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

That was nasty...

…he was lucky he wasn’t hurt much worse.

Physician: Primum non nocere

Batter: First, make no out

by Chad Crudup on Dec 15, 2008 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

When the Marlins won the series

I thought it was Burkett dominating not Beckett. I was like why the hell did they trade this guy? Woops.

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by AirJordan on Dec 15, 2008 4:18 PM CST reply actions  

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"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 15, 2008 5:10 PM CST reply actions  

hey, it's not all that bad

get a grip.. times a changing and LSB is moving forward

by cowpoke on Dec 15, 2008 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't see anything wrong

with the sbnation ads. Hell I’m all for the ads. I’,m all for LSB and LSB only

by cowpoke on Dec 15, 2008 8:06 PM CST up reply actions  

now the other ads on the other sites

can just go to hell. But on LSB I can deal with it

by cowpoke on Dec 15, 2008 8:07 PM CST up reply actions  

firefox dude. firefox.

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Dec 15, 2008 6:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

I just got the new macbook pro and haven’t installed it yet.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 15, 2008 7:37 PM CST up reply actions  

macbook pro

any info on that? I was thinking about that too

by cowpoke on Dec 15, 2008 8:12 PM CST up reply actions  

the macbook

has more powerful NVIDIA graphics

by cowpoke on Dec 15, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions  

ed knows firefox

I should seriously start using firefox. But IE seems to be better right now

by cowpoke on Dec 15, 2008 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

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