Doug Mathis still a Ranger
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 15, 2008 6:42 PM CST
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Yep
If all this does is allow us to keep Holland or Feliz in the minors an extra month or 6 weeks rather than not only rush them but squeeze our 40 man then this is a beautiful move.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I’m wondering if it’s from Double Impact or Bloodsport.
by oc on Dec 15, 2008 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
It came from...
my most happiest dreams.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 15, 2008 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
You've now seen..
a window into my nightmares.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 15, 2008 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
Not only not unnecessary but irrelevant.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Argh. Unnecessary and irrelevant.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Just following your lead
Oliver.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Well done.
This is an exciting time in my life.
The LSB CPP's are in full bloom.
by inactive lsb user on Dec 16, 2008 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
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"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
Yah, I know...
Didn’t know anyone still cared though. ;)
I’m just finding it nigh impossible to try and get back into the writing groove after tumbling out due to sheer exhaustion back in August. I also find myself suffering from a slight inferiority complex after reading BBTiA and LSB all day. I’ve tried to sit down and put together something numerous times over the past couple months, but it just hasn’t happened – that postseason review idea I had fell apart on the drawing board, and (most recently) I wasn’t even able to put together anything I thought was worth posting on the Gerald Laird trade.
Right now I’m not sure if I’m going to attempt to get things started again until the spring, when maybe I’ll put together another MLB preview (like the series of diaries I did early this year) and I’ll have some ST games and moves to report on. Of course, you never know… the writing bug could (hopefully) fund me again sometime sooner. If it does, I’ll put the link back into my signature to plug myself a bit again.
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
I do believe
…those are the New Kids on the Block (the animated version).
And I’m sad I know this.
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Random woman: "When are you getting married, Micah?"
Me: "Probably never. In fact, at this point, it's tempting to just adopt more cats."
by The Best Micah on Dec 15, 2008 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
remind me how we originally acquired old dougie...
i forget.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
Why are
you all splooging over this?
He is a dismal pitcher who will never make an impact to this organization.
"You can be a leader or follower.... Or you can be elite...." - Me
I don't really think...
anyone is “splooging” over Mathis.
It’s a minor league deal, really doesn’t hurt the Rangers. Just another back up plan in case of injuries.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Heh
Only if you consider a 6.85 ERA, 2.28 WHIP and 5.95 FIP good…
It’s comments like this that make me wonder if you actually pay any attention at the games you supposedly go to, or if you’re just there for the beer.
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
I think he has a chance to contribute to the
bullpen. If this team had enough depth, he would have never been called up as a starter last yr. In fact he started off in the bullpen but someone got injured and the implosion began. He throws strikes and could fit in as a middle reliever.
He was looking good in the bullpen
I’d like to see if he can carve out a role for himself there. I doubt he starts the season with the Major League bullpen, but if they remain as ineffective and injury prone as last year, then it shouldn’t be a problem.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
I wasn't impressed with Doug this last season
but if he can put it together, there might be a shot for some bullpen work for him.
Gerald Laird: One Man, 5 Scoops.
Not a bad move...
Doug Mathis is pretty limited on the talent front, so if he’s not bringing his “A” Game consistently enough he’s going to be taken out in the early innings. If he’s on, I still don’t know if he could be one of the top 100 starting pitchers in baseball. My guess is he either establishes himself as a mediocre starting pitcher by the middle of 2010 or he’s not a major league pitcher period.
"Alright class. Now that I've explained how silly the theory of evloution is, and how it's impossible for a specie to change over time, let's refocus on the Bible. I'd like to direct your attention to Genesis. Okay, now here's how the snake lost his voice..."
he's not a major league starter
he’s a bullpen guy
If he can't make it as a starter...
Doug Mathis has, I believe, a four-pitch repertoire, with nothing that’s outstanding. His fastball hits around 90 MPH. Guys like that tend to have ERA’s that don’t often exceed league average, and I can’t imagine there’d be much gained if he’s used sparingly. If he can’t hack it as a starter, then there’s probably no reason to keep him in the bullpen.
Guys in the bullpen wind up there for a reason. Durability issues are a pretty common reason. If a guy can get a few ticks higher on his fastball by pitching 70 innings in a season compared to >150 and their secondary stuff can’t compensate for lost velocity. Left-handed specialists are another example.
There are some long guys in the bullpen, but there’s a much smaller demand for them than there is supply. Long relievers are brought in with the long-shot hope that they’ll pitch better than the starter, but with the more realistic goal of preventing the manager from having to waste the efforts of better relievers. Long relievers aren’t used that much. If one is used a lot, that means he’s a guy who couldn’t supplant a spot from a starting pitching staff that gets beaten up on a frequent basis (Note: see where Jamey Wright is pitching in 2009).
I just don’t see any reason for Mathis to stay in the Majors if he can’t bring his best stuff often enough to warrant a starting job.
"Alright class. Now that I've explained how silly the theory of evloution is, and how it's impossible for a specie to change over time, let's refocus on the Bible. I'd like to direct your attention to Genesis. Okay, now here's how the snake lost his voice..."
by YourNameHere on Dec 16, 2008 1:43 AM CST up reply actions
I can think of 2 reasons
throws strikes, good command. Can you name 2 pitchers who did that in the pen all season?
Everday.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Then start him...
If Doug Mathis has good command and throws strikes (sounds more like one reason, or at least overlapping reasons, as you rarely hear about a guy with good command who doesn’t throw strikes), then why not have him start? The way I see it, with his limitations, Mathis needs to be on top of his game a very high percentage of the time to be a major league pitcher. If he can deliver that often, then he should be starting. If he’s incapable of delivering frequently enough, I don’t see any reason why any team would have him pitch at all.
"Alright class. Now that I've explained how silly the theory of evloution is, and how it's impossible for a specie to change over time, let's refocus on the Bible. I'd like to direct your attention to Genesis. Okay, now here's how the snake lost his voice..."
by YourNameHere on Dec 16, 2008 2:38 AM CST up reply actions
Explain to me
How is Eric Hurley better than Doug Mathis? Use stats, scouting reports, whatever. Go.
WTF is up with all the "instant experts" around here?
I strongly value some posters’ opinions here, but about 10X that think I should, evidently.
Just how many illegitimate children does Gammons have anyways?
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
76 comments
on a ‘Rangers retain Doug Mathis on a minor league deal’ post, most of which are on topic. Yeah, nobody obsesses over the Rangers alright.
Imagine if we ever win playoff series.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
No one will post
We just won’t know what to say
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Hurley vs Mathis
Mathis has never made it to the Rangers Top 10 list of Baseball America. He was pitching in the Rangers minor league system at ages 22-25 (which indicates he was too advanced for A ball at the time) while Hurley pitched at ages 18-22 (younger than his competition) so comparing their stats is a little unfair to Hurley. Despite the age difference, Hurley still has better H/9 (8.1) and K/9 (8.3) ratios than Mathis (9.5 H/9 and 6.8 K/9) and his ERA is only 4 points higher than Mathis (3.97 to 3.93). Hurley clearly has better stuff than Mathis. His major weakness is his tendency to serve up long balls. He would be better suited playing in San Diego instead of Arlington. Trading him to the Marlins along with a catcher would make sense as well.
is this a new username?
your posts have seemed familiar
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by Dirk Diggler on Dec 16, 2008 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
I am new here
I only have three days at LSB. However, I have a couple of months reading what is written on here. I decided to join in since I noticed that the responses written on here are much more intelligent than what is written on that Dallas Morning News blog.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 16, 2008 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
Ah good to know
Don’t be totally fooled — we have our share of morans too.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 17, 2008 8:27 AM CST up reply actions
Now added to the LSB lexicon:
moran
LOL!
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
heh
you know the reference, right?
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 17, 2008 9:48 AM CST up reply actions
http://www.lonestarball.com/search?btn=Go&order=date&q=moran&type=Comment
Might be somewhat obscure — oh well
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by Dirk Diggler on Dec 17, 2008 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
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