Thursday a.m. stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 18, 2008 7:48 AM CST
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PrintThe lack of Ranger news continues.
T.R. Sullivan has an article on Kevin Millwood, his efforts to prepare for the coming season, and the rumors of other teams being interested in him.
Sullivan also has a blog post on his 15 "most relevant" Rangers prospects.
And that's it for today.
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groundhog day
i think this millwood article is from last year (with the kick boxing references omitted).
anyway, can someone please tell me with this worthless piece of crap doesn’t spend every winter preparing to be the best player he can possibly be? isn’t that his job?
the ole boy isn't on the cusp of free agency every winter....
which leads one to believe that he’s only in it for himself. At least he’s honest when he says “I’ve struggled the last couple of years”. well DUHHHH
"You shouldn't fuck around with windfalls"
LoneStarJon
by LAMuscleFag on Dec 18, 2008 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
If it wasn't for the Ho ...
Millwood would easily be the most disappointing free agent pitcher signing for the Rangers in this decade. Even in his “good” season, he wasn’t all that good. He cashed in on that season he pulled out of his rear in Cleveland and then got lazy. Huge disappointment (no pun intended).
that is all correct sir..... Millwood > Ho
he’s definately no Ho, who’d pay?
"You shouldn't fuck around with windfalls"
LoneStarJon
by LAMuscleFag on Dec 18, 2008 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
Is it just me, or is that a really bad title for TR's prospect list?
“Most Relevant prospects”. Is that TR’s cute little way of saying “prospects to watch in 2009?” Because there’s no way the likes of John Bannister and Johnny Whittleman are more “relevant” prospects right now than oh, say… Michael Main, Martin Perez, Engel Beltre, Blake Beavan and a few others I could think of.
Or does TR really think prospect “relevance” is almost soley determined by proximity to the bigs and/or organizational depth at their position?
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
And I should add
Things like this are why we’re really going to miss Evan Grant.
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
Relevance
He mentions success at AA as his factor to become a relevant prospect at the top. The bottom 3 guys on his list don’t have that. And Bannister is more relevant for the 2009 big league club, because he’s now on the 40.
Or does TR really think prospect "relevance" is almost soley determined by proximity to the bigs and/or organizational depth at their position?
What would you base relevance on?
He covers the Major League team, just to mention that.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Dec 18, 2008 9:27 AM CST up reply actions
I'm just confused
As to whether or not this list is a “most relevant to the big league team in 2009” list or a “most relevant right now period” list. If it’s the former, then I’m agreed with most of the list, but if it’s the latter then it becomes kind of silly.
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
[goes out on a limb]
It’s the former.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Dec 18, 2008 9:31 AM CST up reply actions
That's my take too, and it didn't take a lot of guessing for me...
He’s clearly talking about guys who either (a) could make the club this season (Hurley), (b) could make the club but shouldn’t (Feliz), or © could affect the club’s plans based on their performance (Whittleman)
Not trying to be snotty to anyone, but it DID seem really clear to me right from the jump. Like someone else said, he’s writing about the big club for an audience that doesn’t really folow the minors. IOW, 90% of the Ranger fanbase.
Derrick Turnbow
According to Jon Paul Morosi, we’re one of the teams that has had interest in Derrick Turnbow. Yippee.
I love...
T.R.‘s 15 most relevant prospects list. It’s great, and I agree with it 100%.
- signed KoK
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
i would say he is probably one of the most interesting guys to watch in ST
so yes
lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 21, 2008 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
I hope Sickels
post his Rangers list today. We really need something to discuss.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
I highly doubt it
He just got the Rockies done and it took him quite awhile. I imagine the rangers one won’t be up until early next week. I hope I am wrong however
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Sickels top 30?
His list for the A’s was 26 prospects long. Will he do 30 for the Rangers?
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
Doubt it
The A’s are really really deep like the Rangers, I don’t even think there will be a list of 26 Rangers.
by groundingout on Dec 18, 2008 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
The Rangers are deeper than the A's
I can see at least 26
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Now that I looked at it
I counted 26 Rangers that I think Sickels will give C+ or better to. (I assume that his criteria to lengthen the list but I haven’t checked on that either)
by groundingout on Dec 18, 2008 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
I'm just not sure
that I’m objective enough to judge which system is deeper, even though I think the Rangers have a slight edge. But I wouldn’t just flat out say without qualification that they’re deeper than Oakland.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
That's what 'who' said?
I don’t know. I never know. I just say it.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on Dec 18, 2008 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
Is Newberg,
Scott Lucas and MJH going to publish their prospect lists for the masses?
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
They already have or are about to
Newberg has already published his in his book. Lucas said last week he’s post his just after Jamey’s book came out. Hindman has already been putting out his rankings, but by position, not overall number. I don’t know if he’s planning an overall ranking at the end of those position lists.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
He usually does it
after he’s done with all the positions
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
That's what she said.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on Dec 18, 2008 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
Wow. Did you just "zoom zoom zoom" me? Awesome.
I guess it’s only fair since I just Kelly Ripa’d the shit out of you.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on Dec 18, 2008 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
and a boom boom?
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
Well at least we have Sickels' list
coming out soon.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
i have said since the season ended
that it wouldn’t surprise me if he made the team as a reliever out of spring training. another year removed from TJ, and after the solid progress he made on his breaking stuff, I think he has the potential to make a very big impact on this team this year.
Be careful what you wish for....
JD could trade Justin Smoak and Eric Hurley to the Reds for Micah Owings, David Weathers and a class A catcher. That would give us something to talk about.
Fire Ron Washington
Brief Q&A with Millwood by Rich:
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/12/brief-qa-with-kevin-millwood.html
" He throws it where he wants it, his breaking ball kept getting better and better and of course God gave him that special arm. He's great." ~ Neftali Feliz on Derek Holland.
Why do I read the comment section of the DMN blog???
I know it’s going to be a beating but I can’t make myself look away. It’s like a particularly gory car wreck where all the cars are made of stupid.
ALL SHEEP ALL THE TIME!!!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on Dec 18, 2008 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
Ya, it's the same for me.
" He throws it where he wants it, his breaking ball kept getting better and better and of course God gave him that special arm. He's great." ~ Neftali Feliz on Derek Holland.
by Kinslerhomer on Dec 18, 2008 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
lol...I dunno.
Perhaps testing the upper limit of your blood pressure?
Gauging the ultimate limit of your flight or fight threshold?
Maybe you just wanna get really pissed and go all miles on your LCD, so mommy will buy you a shiny new bigger one for Christmas?
:)
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
2010 FAs starting pitchers
Next years SP free agents from http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
Not a very impressive group. Harden and Bedard look to be the cream of the crop. Which one will the Yankees sign?
Starting pitchers
Danys Baez
Miguel Batista (39)
Josh Beckett (30) – $12MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Erik Bedard (31)
Chris Capuano (31)
Jose Contreras (38)
Doug Davis (34)
Justin Duchscherer (32)
Adam Eaton (32) – $9MM mutual option with a $500K buyout
Mike Hampton (37)
Rich Harden (28)
Tim Hudson (34) – $12MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
John Lackey (31)
Cliff Lee (31) – $8MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Jason Marquis (31)
Kevin Millwood (35) – Rangers can decline $12MM salary for ’10 unless he reaches 180 innings in ’09
Brett Myers (29)
Vicente Padilla (32) – $12MM club option with a $1.75MM buyout
Chan Ho Park (37)
Joel Pineiro (31)
Horacio Ramirez (30)
Jason Schmidt (37)
Jarrod Washburn (35)
Brandon Webb (31) – $8.5MM club option with a $500K+ buyout
Todd Wellemeyer (31)
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
Harden and Bedard look to be the cream of the crop.
And Lackey. But yeah, that is a weak looking crop, all the more reason to go for Sheets now.
Don't believe the hype about sloppy seconds. They ain't bad.
+1
He scares the shit out of me, but how many chances do we get to bring in a legit ace via FA?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on Dec 18, 2008 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
Seems like he’s sucked a lot longer than that.
by robert_d_wilfong on Dec 18, 2008 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
Lackey and Brett Myers are interesting as well.
Though personally I’m not very down with any of those guys.
Lackey’s overrated and I see a steep decline in his future.
Bedard and Harden suffered a combined 2.75 injuries while I was typing this sentence.
Myers has flashed ace potential in the past, but he beats the shit out of his wife in public, something I’ve always sort of frowned upon.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on Dec 18, 2008 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
Definitely
If you’re gonna beat the shit out of your wife, do it at the house.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Indeed.
Although you have to think that most wife beating pieces of shit at least care enough to put on a front in public and pretend they aren’t useless sacks of garbage water, so if Brett Myers is really a big enough piece of shit to beat his wife in public… what the fuck is he doing to her at home? Seriously. What an awful human being.
This is why if you hit your wife even one time I think you should be castrated and then torn apart limb by limb doing that thing where they tie ropes to all four of your limbs and then have horses pull them off. Why don’t they do that thing anymore? People say that the death penalty isn’t a deterrent against crime, but it would be if we stopped being pussies and using “humane” shit like lethal injection and went back to making the executions more Braveheart-y.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on Dec 18, 2008 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I believe the term you are looking for is drawn and quartered.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on Dec 18, 2008 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
im pro-guillotine myself
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
Maybe on the genitals.
But for beheadings it’s too quick and not nearly torturey enough for wife beaters/child touchers/rapists/etc.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on Dec 18, 2008 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
I say guillotine works great
Just start at the toes and every 10 minutes slice off another part of the body. That should work.
I'm a big supporter of public hangings.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
And Brian Giles is right on que
A videotape released this week shows San Diego Padres outfielder Brian Giles allegedly assaulting his then-girlfriend in an Arizona bar, NBC San Diego (www.nbcsandiego.com) reported.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Wow.
While she was pregnant with his child.
I almost can’t compute that.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on Dec 18, 2008 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
That kind of thing never makes sense.
I think actions like that are often indicative of somebody who has a pretty serious mental imbalance. A few years back, we had a guy here in Grayson County who decided one day to slaughter his ex-wife and her new baby, and for good measure he killed his own 4-year-old son. I just don’t think a rational person can lose control so bad that they do something like that or like assaulting a woman that is pregnant with his child. There are usually some deep-seeded psychological issues at play.
was this the guy who hid in the lofts downtown?
would have been 2004?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 21, 2008 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
Is there a chance he goes down for murder?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Or manslaughter, more likely
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
nm
Guess the miscarriage was from a previous beating.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
That son of a bitch
deserves every ounce of negative publicity, judicial action, and monetary punishment possible. I’d rather sign Chan Ho again than have a wife beater on the team, no matter how good they are. No to Myers, Giles and any others.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Indeed.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Agreed
And really, that has essentially been the MO of the Rangers – sign not only players you want for their ability, but guys who are good guys. I know Milton Bradley has gotten a lot of bad publicity, and no doubt the guy is pretty intense, but I don’t think he is a bad guy.
I hate Brian Giles
I’ve heard only bad things about him mentioned around town out here. Why the guy remains a fan favorite of some is beyond me.
One should be put the death in the same manner in which they killed
Stab someone to death … get the stabbing machine
Shoot someone in the head … firing squad
Throw someone off a bridge into oncoming traffic … insurance institute crash test HQ
Rape someone then strangle them … ball gag, broom stick, extension cord
by robert_d_wilfong on Dec 18, 2008 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
ive always supported that train of thought
keep the crazy sadistic mofo’s thinking about there own ass.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
stabbing machine
Round up some scientists and get this done. And be sure to record the meetings of the design team. I imagine it could be pretty entertaining.
Hobos- Nature's stabbing machines.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on Dec 18, 2008 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
thats an awesome line!!!
maybe one of your best of all time dirk.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
not awful...
What an awful human being.
i believe the phrase you are looking for is the world’s worst human being:
http://www.lonestarball.com/2008/6/27/560059/i-would-like-to-introduce
by sam in so cal on Dec 18, 2008 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
Someone is going...
to give Duchscherer and Marquis a lot more money than they should give them.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Well ...
if Duchscherer can get in 30+ starts in 2009 with a similar performance to this year, he’ll certainly be a viable FA choice. His peripherals as a reliever were usually pretty good and his numbers last year really don’t appear to be wildly inconsistent with what he has done in the past. It should be interesting to see how he fares this season.
Hank
I think Hank will make a lot of money if he stays healthy this year. I can see the Yanks passing on Teix and then regretting it during the year and overcompensating by paying Blalock big bucks. Even if the Yank aren’t into him, there are other teams like the Giants that’ll pay good money and forget about his injury history. Of course if he can’t stay healthy, he’ll be lucky to get major league contract.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on Dec 18, 2008 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
If he stays healthy
he will be traded in July. Maybe sooner.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
yeah but...
I don’t think the team acquiring him is going to sign him long term. That means he would still be a free agent.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on Dec 18, 2008 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
That's a big "IF".
Hank is a player I’ve said year after year is going to bounce back. Obviously, we’ve all been disappointed in what he has actually accomplished. I’d love to see him get his game back, but I have very little confidence that his body will hold out for a full season.
Tim Redding
I hope JD is just doing his due diligence. Aggressive? I hope not.
According to Troy E. Renck of the Denver Post, the Rockies, Rangers, Mets, and Orioles have been the most aggressive suitors for free agent starter Tim Redding. Redding, 31 in February, posted a 4.95 ERA in 33 starts for the Nationals this year while earning $1MM. They decided to non-tender him.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
I don't know
180 innings at that ERA might have looked ok in 2008, especially for the price. I wouldn’t be the least bit excited about it, but I wouldn’t decry it either if he was an NRI.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Imagine if we had a rotation like this going into 2009:
John Danks
Edinson Volquez
Jered Weaver (we should had drafted him instead of Thomas Diamond)
Chris Young
Armando Galarraga
We should had drafted Matt Garza instead of John Mayberry Jr. as well.
Well I guess hindsight is hindsight, but all of this is worth thinking about though.
yes, a LOT!
I guess you heard Fat Joe left Atlantic.
by Haeger Champ on Dec 18, 2008 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
It's not worth thinking about
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 18, 2008 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
Yes it is
As long as the same front office responsible for this mess is still running things around here.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 18, 2008 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
What does
constantly rehashing all that stuff over and over again accomplish?
Don’t you think JD knows that those didn’t work out? I think we all know too. Not sure we really need to keep thinking about it.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 18, 2008 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
The only reason I keep bringing it up is because
it keeps happening every year. Armando Galarraga for Michael Hernandez? Hernandez was released shortly after the trade to make it even worse. Our talent evaluation has to be better than that. We just traded Wes Littleton in order to keep Willie Eyre on the 40-man roster. Littleton was out of options, but we should had held on a little longer and let him compete for a job in spring training. His ERA was deceiving last year (6.00) because he held hitters to a .701 OPS, which was 120 points better than Josh Rupe’s .821 OPS allowed.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 18, 2008 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
It's convienent
for you that you just joined here. I mean, it really is too bad that you can prove to us you saw Galarraga’s season coming — because you would’ve been about the only one in the world who did. I guarantee you Detroit never thought they’d get that kind of production out of him.
Already throwing the Littleton trade under the bus, huh? At least we’ll have you on record for this one.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 18, 2008 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't expect Galarraga to be this good either
But I felt like there were worse players than him in the 40-man roster at the time.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 18, 2008 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
+1,000,000
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
The Rangers
would still be a .500 team in 2009.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
How do you figure?
Danks 3.32
Volquez 3.21
Weaver 4.33
Young 3.96
Galarraga 3.73
Garza 3.70
Those are the 2008 ERAs of each pitcher. I know they would be higher in our ballpark and league, but not by too much.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 18, 2008 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
I know you are talking about 2009
But things normally don’t change drastically from one year to another. Plus, these are all young pitchers capable of improving even more in the 2009 season.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 18, 2008 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know why I am actually responding to this garbage
Danks would never have learned the cutter here and been the same HR prone guy he was in the minors
We wouldn’t have hamilton if we gave up Volquez. Oh and look at his 2nd half splits last year and tell me what kind of pitcher he is
Weaver is bleh
Young is a 5+ ERA pitcher here in Arlington if he stays
And Galarraga was a fluke
The only one I won’t argue about is Garza
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
i know why you're responding...
it’s because “all of this is worth thinking about”.
I guess you heard Fat Joe left Atlantic.
by Haeger Champ on Dec 18, 2008 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
the kazmir weaver misses set us back 5 years
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
No its not
its really not
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Weaver and Galarraga are better than any starter we currently have
It is not proven yet that Galarraga is a fluke. Also, Young’s career road ERA is only 3.83 and 4.70 at our ballpark. Are you one of those fans that think that JD can’t be wrong? I love the Rangers as much as anyone around here, but I am not blind to mistakes by the front office. I am a fan of winning and it is disappointing that mistakes after mistakes have kept us from doing just that. Don’t get the wrong idea however, I am optimistic concerning the Rangers future.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 18, 2008 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
Young
Im happy to say JD has been wrong on plenty of stuff. Chris Young was not one of them. And if Galarraga isn’t a fluke then he is the luckiest guy in baseball and will have to stay that way to keep a roster spot according to his numbers. (hint: look beyond simple ERA).
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
What do you think about this?
In exactly 81 road games, Adrian Gonzalez had a .308 BA with 22 HR and 70 RBI with a .368 OBP, .578 SLG%, and a .946 OPS. Now imagine if he was playing his other half at the numbers inflated ballpark (especially for left-handed hitters) that we call home instead of the worse hitters park there is (Petco Park). What would his overall numbers look like? By doing simple math it would be at least 44 HR and 140 RBI and that’s without considering the positive effect our ballpark and working with Rudy Jaramillo would have on him. Also, he is relatively cheap and plays gold glove caliber defense as well (unlike Chris Davis) and his agent is not named Scott Boras (unlike Chris Davis). If you think that season was a fluke for Adrian Gonzalez then look at this 2007 road splits: .295 20 64 .358 .570 .928 in 82 games. Even in 2006, his road OPS was .905.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 18, 2008 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
Where did I ever say Adrian Gonzalez wasn't a mistake
That was the mistake part of that trade. I understand why we felt Gonzalez was expendable but we should have been able to put him in a separate package for a good player.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I will not bother you any more with these old trades.
Notice it’s my first time mentioning them in this blog. I just wanted to at least get that point across once.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 18, 2008 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
But whats the point
Our GM has made some questionable personnel decisions. Name one that hasn’t. Right now the team/organization is in the best shape its been in quite some time. We have an amazing core of ubertalented young players who figure to be here for several years. We also have what looks to be a steady stream of highly regarded talent coming through the pipeline which should keep us competitive for yars to come. Our owner has pledged to be fiscally flexible when needed and hasn’t shown otherwise yet. If you want to dwell on the past go right ahead but be prepared for people to tell you to get over it.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
As long as Daniels makes reasonable trades from now on
then everything is fine. Its just that I don’t want people to just pretend like those trades never happened. They will always be a part of Daniels’ evaluation as a GM. For example, this situation is similar to one where your wife tells you she has cheated on men before meeting you, would you just forget about it and not give it any thought? Things that have occurred before can happen again, right?
by coolrangersfan on Dec 18, 2008 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
Your points
are fine, but realize that we have been over this stuff here again and again and again and again.
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We get it
That doesn’t mean we need to talk about it in every thread.
Would you bring that up with your wife in every conversation at the dinner table?
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 18, 2008 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
Of course
But I fail to see why out of the clear blue you decide today to bring all this stuff up? Its not like people on here have forgotten about all those things you mentioned. But we have moved on. And until it happens again there is really no need to bring it up especially out of the blue like this.
Theres the people who think people never change. So if a guy has cheated once then every time he even talks to another woman the chick thinks he is hitting on her. Or in this case every time the GM thinks about making a move people think hes gonna fuck up
Then theres the people who can see that a persons changed. Of course if the cheater cheats again then you bring the old stuff up. Or if the GM trades away a young pitcher for garbage. But until it happens you think they have learned their lesson.
I for one haven’t seen much if anything to really bitch about from JD the last 18 months or so. Even the Galarraga deal it wasn’t trading him away that upset me it was exposing him to waivers when he had options left which makes it alot easier for a team to snag him. Thats about it. I just don’t see the need to rehash the trades that happened 3 years ago when theres a greater than zero chance that had those things not happened we would be in worse shape overall than we are in now. Sure we may have a few potentially good young pitchers but would our farm system be the way it is? Would we have felt the need to trade Teixeira when we did thus potentially not having those prospects/MLers? Would we have gone out and signed a veteran FA as that “one piece we need” type move which costs us a draft pick? The past shapes the future. Right now our future is very very bright. Theres no guarantee if the past was different our future would be as bright.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
The way we got rid of Wes Littleton reminded me
of those trades. I wasn’t around to comment at the time they occurred but yea it is late and out of the blue. Anyways, like I said earlier, I will not mention those old trades anymore since you guys are tired of hearing about it.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 18, 2008 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
Dumb.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
There are two kinds of men in this world: Men who make jump throws, and men who wish that they were Derek Jeter so that they could make jump throws.
by thedirkatron on Dec 18, 2008 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
To go even further
It’s painful to see that Cole Hamels, Scott Kazmir, Jon Lester, Joe Saunders, Matt Cain, Jeremy Guthrie, David Bush, Josh Johnson, John Maine, Mike Pelfrey and Joe Blanton were all drafted after Drew Meyer in 2002. Even Brian McCann, Jonathan Broxton, Joey Votto, James Loney, Russell Martin, Curtis Granderson, Joel Zumaya, Ben Francisco, Fred Lewis, Matt Lindstrom, Jeff Clement, Dan Eveland, and Matt Capps were all available for the Rangers and Grady Fuson screwed up big time.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 18, 2008 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
please continue!
I guess you heard Fat Joe left Atlantic.
by Haeger Champ on Dec 18, 2008 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
Surely you realize you could make similar draft comments for every single team in the mlb
its ridiculous.
The young/danks/volquez stuff is old, but at least it has some merit. There is no merit to trying to second guess draft picks unless they were obviously horrible at the time, not in retrospect. And at least respect that we have drafted well for years now.
the preceding post was a great success.
The Drew Meyer and JMJ picks were just absolutely terrible
I usually think its pointless to do that for the draft, but those are just 2 first round picks that were brain dead at best.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
I still lose sleep over the 1991 draft
Look at all the badasses taken in front of Benji Gill
1. Brien Taylor, P, New York Yankees (Beaufort, N.C.)
2. Mike Kelly, OF, Atlanta Braves (Arizona State)
3. David McCarty, 1B, Minnesota Twins (Stanford)
4. Dmitri Young, 3B-OF, St. Louis Cardinals (Oxnard, Calif.)
5. Kenny Henderson, P, Milwaukee Brewers (Ringgold, Ga.)
6. John Burke, P, Houston Astros (Florida)
7. Joe Vitiello, OF-1B, Kansas City Royals (Alabama)
8. Joey Hamilton, P, San Diego Padres (Georgia Southern)
9. Mark Smith, OF, Baltimore Orioles (Southern Cal)
10. Tyler Green, P, Philadelphia Phillies (Wichita State)
11. Shawn Estes, P, Seattle Mariners (Minden, Nev.)
12. Doug Glanville, OF, Chicago Cubs (U. Pennsylvania)
13. Manny Ramirez, 3B-OF, Cleveland Indians (New York, N.Y.)
14. Cliff Floyd, 1B, Montreal Expos (South Holland, Ill.)
15. Tyrone Hill, P, Milwaukee Brewers (Yucaipa, Calif.)
16. Shawn Green, OF, Toronto Blue Jays (Tustin, Calif.)
17. Eduardo Perez, 1B, California Angels (Florida State)
18. Al Shirley, OF, New York Mets (Danville, Va.)
19. Benji Gil, SS-OF, Texas Rangers (Chula Vista, Calif.)
That set the franchise back 214 years.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 18, 2008 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
oh and the picks after him
20. Pokey Reese, SS, Cincinnati Reds (Hopkins, S.C.)
21. Allen Watson, P, St. Louis Cardinals (New York Tech)
22. Brian Barber, P, St. Louis Cardinals (Orlando, Fla.)
23. Aaron Sele, P, Boston Red Sox (Washington State)
24. Jon Farrell, C-OF, Pittsburgh Pirates (Florida Junior College)
25. Scott Ruffcorn, P, Chicago White Sox (Baylor)
26. Brent Gates, SS, Oakland Athletics (Minnesota)
Supplemental picks
27. Scott Stahoviak, 3B, Minnesota Twins (Creighton)
28. Tom McKinnon, P, St. Louis Cardinals (Long Beach, Calif.)
29. Shawn Livsey, SS, Houston Astros (Chicago, Ill.)
30. Jason Pruitt, P, Kansas City Royals (Reidsville, N.C.)
31. Greg Anthony, P-OF, San Diego Padres (Tavares, Fla.)
32. Justin Thompson, P, Detroit Tigers (Spring, Texas)
33. Steve Whitaker, P, San Francisco Giants (Long Beach State)
34. Jorge Fabregas, 3B-C, California Angels (Miami)
35. Jeff Ware, P, Toronto Blue Jays (Old Dominion)
36. Bobby Jones, P, New York Mets (Fresno State)
37. J.J. Johnson, OF, Boston Red Sox (Pine Plains, N.Y.)
38. Mike Rossiter, P, Oakland Athletics (Burbank, Calif.)
39. Dan Cholowsky, 3B, St. Louis Cardinals (California)
40. Jimmy Gonzalez, C, Houston Astros (East Hartford, Conn.)
41. Trever Miller, P, Detroit Tigers (Louisville, Ky.)
42. Dante Powell, SS, Toronto Blue Jays (Long Beach, Calif.)
43. Scott Hatteberg, OF, Boston Red Sox (Washington State)
44. Mike Groppuso, 3B, Houston Astros (Seton Hall)
Oh the humanity!
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 18, 2008 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
oh dear god.......here we go again.......Why??????
you think this knowledge has just flown over everybody’s head?
and since we’re talking about who we shouldv’e drafted, put Kazmir up there
AJM's favorite time of the year
With the dearth of Rangers news, make a post at 8:30 am and since his billable hour requirements are done, he sits and eats bon-bons. Not bad.
Nothing pithy here. Please move long.
because I am bored
A couple of Ben Sheets articles.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/pitching-while-injured-a-case-study-with-ben-sheets/
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/all-about-ben-sheets/
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
Those bastards.
They didn’t send me a warning that my sponsorship was about to end.
'Bout time, huh?
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Ha, that's nothing...
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/R/nolan-ryan.shtml
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/R/jackie-robinson.shtml
I need to get them to change the descriptions…. and for good measure:
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/A/hank-aaron.shtml
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/G/lou-gehrig.shtml
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/willie-mays.shtml
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/Y/Cy-Young.shtml
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Stan-Musial.shtml
and there’s an 8th one that I can never remember.
Neftali Feliz is not a swimmer.
Best part is that I bought those 4 or 5 years ago...
when they only cost $10 for a lifetime sponsorship.
Neftali Feliz is not a swimmer.
by NoNameOnCard on Dec 18, 2008 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
Incidentally...
Biomechanics: Ulnar Collateral Ligament
Neftali Feliz is not a swimmer.
by NoNameOnCard on Dec 18, 2008 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
I just think it's awesome...
… even though no one EVER clicks on them.
Neftali Feliz is not a swimmer.
by NoNameOnCard on Dec 18, 2008 11:33 PM CST up reply actions
I checked out
a couple, but only because you posted links. New site looks nice, I’ll probably read it when I get a day off next week… too tired to delve into ligaments right now.
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Sickel's take on Beltre
Sounds like he will have the Rangers up tomorrow. In the meantime, checkout his take on Beltre.
http://www.minorleagueball.com/
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
surprised he gave Beltre a B
I would have thought a C+ or B- at best, given the way Sickels is weary of young toolsy guys.
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