Want to keep quality baseball reporting?
by mjh on Dec 23, 2008 7:22 AM CST
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If you still want Evan Grant reporting on the Rangers for you, take a minute and fill up a couple of e-mail boxes. Might help, might not: Might as well try.
DMN Sports Editor — Gary Leavell: gleavell@dallasnews.com
DMN Deputy Managing Editor Sports — Bob Yates: byates@dallasnews.com
They still haven't told me what they are going to do about the blog and I'm not sure that they've made a final decision. I do know that even in September, Octobe and November, the Rangers blog was the second most active DMN blog (behind the Cowboys, of course) and that we routinely got five to six times as many hits per day as the Mavericks or Stars blogs and ten to fifty times as many as any other DMN sports blog. I also know that beat reporting on the sports teams gets far more action than the columns.
So why they want to cut back on beat reporting and keep columnists around is beyond me. Seems that bloggers have replaced traditional columnists, but as good as guys like Adam or Jamey or Joey are, they can't take the place of great beat reporters.
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I agree 100%
Honestly, I could care less if DMN kept Cowlishaw, or JJ Taylor or Sherrington. I mean, are their columns a stop down for anyone in the world?
I do read beat reporting though. I don’t see a lot of reason to read DMN if they do away with beat reporting.
Nolan Ryan is the Greatest Pitcher ever, because Google says so.
"BTW I’m officially welching ab03. Yeah I planned too all along, but I figured I’d try to get off the hook with double or nothing first."- Sharky
by DJCahill on Dec 23, 2008 7:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Agree
i get the DMN daily, but without the rangers beat reporting I’m not sure I want to subscribe daily any more. The paper is slowly going downhill with every cutback the quality gets worse.
A lot of the movie reviews they carry on friday are just feeds from other papers or the AP, there is a lot less original content than I would like from my local paper and sadly it’s the only dallas newspaper.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Dec 23, 2008 7:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not fill up some inboxes?
Great idea MJH. To take it one step further, why not make a few posts on fav baseball blogs/sites expressing incredulity about the elimination of the beat writer for a mid-market team followed by a request to email the DMN editors about the absurdity of such a move (with a link to the Dallas Observer article).
If sci-fi geeks/bloggers can bring about a major motion picture (Serenity) after the cancellation of Firefly, maybe we can bring Evan back, who knows?. Just a suggestion.
http://minormoosings.blogspot.com/
by Goyogringo on Dec 23, 2008 8:03 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I cant remember the last time I read a columnist
by BEW on Dec 23, 2008 8:04 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Do you read MJH's posts?
His new gig might be in jeopardy as well…
http://minormoosings.blogspot.com/
by Goyogringo on Dec 23, 2008 8:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Consider it done.
Agree on the columnist vs. blogger idea. If they want traffic on their site I can’t imagine ditching the blog but keeping the columnists.
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by t ball on Dec 23, 2008 8:13 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did Evan
get shelved after the Pedroia debacle? Seems like I remember him fading away right after that whole incident….
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on Dec 23, 2008 8:21 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
That would be a shame
He should have had Pedroia somewhere on his list, but he wasn’t anywhere near as wrong as those blowhards suggested.
by Brett Perryman on Dec 23, 2008 9:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What kills me...
…is that Grant had more of a logical reason for keeping Pedroia off the ballot as most of the people attacking him had for saying Grant had no reason to not vote him MVP. Does that make sense?
by FuturePants on Dec 23, 2008 9:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
Worded terribly, but makes enough sense.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
Absolutely not. The DMN is evidently considering cutting out Rangers beat coverage to save money.
by mjh on Dec 23, 2008 9:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They only save money if
somebody gets cut. Who got cut?
Let the FWST cover the Rangers in print. Keep the DMN blog (EG and MJH) and shut down the FWST blog.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on Dec 23, 2008 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
They probably save money in travel costs. I can’t imagine that Evan funded his own trips to road games. That is probably where they’re actually saving.
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Random woman: "When are you getting married, Micah?"
Me: "Probably never. In fact, at this point, it's tempting to just adopt more cats."
by baseballismyboyfriend on Dec 25, 2008 11:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good, glad that wasn't the reason
just saw a correlation, good thing it wasn’t an accurate one.
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on Dec 23, 2008 10:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i was thinking after this evan debacle
how absolutely f*ck%d it is that the DMN would hire MJH b/c they are getting their a$$ handed to them by bloggers in the baseball market especially, have him leave his MLB posting and his own website in the past as far as a marketing form is concerned and then cut him lose within 1/3 or so of a season. If that doesnt seem like an absolute blatant attempt to mess with competition i dunno what is.
Wild Idea #1: i really think that all the dallas area baseball beat-writers from all papers and the bloggers Jamey, MJH, and Park and Cole should just walk out of their papers and merge to form a media outlet to cover the team and sell the rights to both papers, blow their doors off, basically giving them no choice but to purchase the rights to their coverage.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Dec 23, 2008 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
would be amazing
if only it would happen :(
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 23, 2008 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+2
This would easily work.
Just put a little money behind it and it becomes a lot less wild of an idea.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I do know that even in September, Octobe and November, the Rangers blog was the second most active DMN blog (behind the Cowboys, of course) and that we routinely got five to six times as many hits per day as the Mavericks or Stars blogs and ten to fifty times as many as any other DMN sports blog. I also know that beat reporting on the sports teams gets far more action than the columns.
what an idea, kill the second biggest sports blog on your site, now thats a great business plan
i agree, send an email or two – i am
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 23, 2008 8:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I doubt they would kill it
They would just have MacMahon and the columnists post random stuff.
www.mavsmoneyball.com
by Wes Cox on Dec 23, 2008 10:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
x
I e-mailed these guys a couple of weeks ago and I did hear back from Mr. Yates with some very nice things to say about Grant. These guys are listening; it’s a question of what – if anything – they can do about it.
by FuturePants on Dec 23, 2008 8:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I ,too ,sent an e-mail
to Leavell and Yates and received an answer similiar to yours. I asked why there was no explanation as to what would happen going forward and got no answer. I get the impression they (Leavell and Yates) have orders about what they can say.
I agree that the biggest waste of ink and money, as for as I am concerned, is with the columnists. Not just in the sports section, but the entire newspaper.
by Jea103 on Dec 23, 2008 10:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Columns=bad
Physician: Primum non nocere
Batter: First, make no out
by Chad Crudup on Dec 23, 2008 8:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
let me just say
that as a rangers fan living in DC i feel that i can get any information about the cowboys i want by following them nationally but when it comes to the rangers, the 4 letter (espn) doesnt cover them that well – understatement – and losing evan would be a huge blow.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 23, 2008 9:03 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I did this a couple of weeks ago
Here is the response I got
he newspaper industry is facing a difficult financial challenge. Our editor announced in early November that we and the Fort Worth Star-Telegram were exploring ways to work together as we deal with that challenge.
Both newspapers are looking for ways that make sense for us to work together and save money. All of us will have to wait to see how that turns out. Meanwhile, I appreciate your note and welcome your thoughts.
Pretty non responsive. Still, everybody should do it.
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Dec 23, 2008 9:16 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wish the papers would merge...
or whatever they plan on doing. Whatever path they decide to go down, I hope they at least re-allocate Evan Grant back to the baseball beat. If the papers are going to be successful, they can start by not misallocating resources. The last thing they need to do is assign another writer to the Cowboys.
I don’t care what they decide. Merge and put him back on baseball. Exchange some staff and send him to the Star Telegram… Whatever. His coverage is good, he seems to have been developing a rapport with some of the players and staff, which we don’t get from the blogs. And he strives to improve, starting to mix in some more modern stats. I hate to see that wasted by diverting him to Cowboys coverage.
I’m sure Evan is reading some of this, as he’s posted here on occasion. I’m also pretty sure he isn’t able to respond on here, or is hesitant to.
EG: I hate to see you getting yanked around, dude. Good luck.
by bhudson on Dec 23, 2008 9:36 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
+ 1 Zillion!
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Dec 23, 2008 11:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If the papers merged
in an effort to remain viable as daily newspapers I don’t see Grant being picked. I would pick him, of course, but the papers have many more casual fans reading than hardcore ones. In other words, the papers have more people reading Galloway for a laugh than Grant’s good beat writing.
Hardcore fans that value good beat writing over knee-jerking columnists are not in the majority.
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by t ball on Dec 23, 2008 9:59 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Grandpa urine needs to get the axe
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on Dec 23, 2008 10:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Other than (justifiably in my mind) railing on poor little JD,
why do so many in Lone Star feel that Galloway deserves the axe?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 23, 2008 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It has nothing to do with JD
I don’t like him or read him any more because all he does is spew shit from his mouth. Everything he writes is stupid. He is not funny or cute with what he writes and most of the time sounds as if he is drunk when he tries to formulate a thought.
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on Dec 23, 2008 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Galloway
…doesn’t really back his opinions with any kind of logic, reason, facts, etc. He just writes stuff to incite people, I think. He cares little for reality.
by FuturePants on Dec 23, 2008 10:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But Galloway also believes that
Wade Phillips should be fired and there seems to be a general consensus in here that should happen.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 23, 2008 10:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
which i dont understand
what would the cowboys record w/o the injuries?
its a good pairing, phillips and garrett, why screw it up
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 23, 2008 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a Cowboys fan but that team
has all the earmarks of something being wrong internally and a polarizing, mouthy, aging HOF bound WR in decline who has lots of influence in the room probably isn’t good for morale.
I can’t say that I fully agree with Galloway that Phillips should be fired (that defense shows moments of dominance) but columnists should not terminated mainly because you disagree with their opinions and that’s what happens in this market.
If Galloway gave lots of love to JD, the opinion in here (and other places) would be much different.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 23, 2008 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't change my opinion
Grandpa Urine would and still sucks. The Metroplex would be better off if he just quit or got the axe from FWST and his radio show.
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on Dec 23, 2008 10:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait
People’s opinions about Galloway’s stupidity do not hinge on his opinion of Jon Daniels. They hinge on Galloway being stupid. There are plenty of people on this board that do not like JD yet you seem to be the only Galloway apologist.
by FuturePants on Dec 23, 2008 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Josey
probably works for grandpa urine.
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on Dec 23, 2008 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, Galloway is one of the few
columnists in DFW who is not afraid to kick people (who deserve it) in the nuts. There was a very incestuous relationship between the DMN and the Texas Rangers (hello, advertising) and the coverage of the Texas Rangers by the DMN (to this day) is a reflection of that relationship.
Galloway recognized right away what a problem Sanders was and the same thing with TO. Both came to fruition.
Early on, he ripped the hell out of John Hart (which seemed to be okay in here) but he also did the same thing to JD (with more than enough cause).
He also backed Avery when he was here and said that Ron Washington should be brought back next year.
Sometimes he’s right, sometimes he’s wrong.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 23, 2008 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dallas Morning News?
What does my opinion of Galloway have anything to do with the Dallas Morning News? Let’s stay focused.
Galloway sucks no matter who else is writing about the team. Galloway just sucks.
by FuturePants on Dec 23, 2008 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with Galloway
is not any of his opinions. It is that none of his opinions are based on careful thought, nuance, research or any of the things that a newspaper journalist supposedly does to make their writing informed.
He makes NO EFFORT to add anything to the conversation, he just spouts something negative. He is no better than the worst poster here on this blog and does nothing to deserve his status as a columnist. Talk radio is all he should be doing. He is at the same level as Joan Rivers or Jerry Springer.
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by t ball on Dec 23, 2008 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And even then
judging by net worth, Galloway is probably not doing as good of a job as his contemporaries ;)
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
x
He is at the same level as Joan Rivers or Jerry Springer.
If Randy Galloway ever gets defined in the dictionary, this needs to be included.
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
by lonestarJon on Dec 23, 2008 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
tball, who would you consider
to be a sportswriter that uses careful thought, nuance and research?
You could say that about Hindman, I guess…but if you dare disagree with anything he says, he pouts, complains about being unappreciated and threatens to never write anything again!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 23, 2008 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hindman
temperament and all, Jamey, Grant, Durrett is ok, TR Sullivan despite his detractors, the trio over at BBTIA.com, Adam, of course. None of the guys at FWST make me wish I had that paper.
Basically, as many have said here already, the columnists have nothing to say that isn’t already said better by bloggers covering any given sport. I can’t for the life of me understand newspapers holding onto columnists as they try to figure out how to remain viable.
It just seems like Grant and other beat writers are much more valuable to sports readers than columnists.
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by t ball on Dec 23, 2008 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hindman should not get an exception because
of his temperament.
Lots of info, decent writer but not being able to cope with readers disagreeing with you is a hilarious deal-breaker. Heard him on BAD Radio this past summer getting pounded for his take that Tom Hicks spends enough on payroll because he believes this really isn’t a top 5 market, could hear the “hurt” in his voice when it was over and just sat in my car and LOL knowing full well how far his tail was stuck up his ass.
Jamey is a really good writer, provides a phenomenal service to Ranger fans but he and his opinions are tethered to the team.
TR Sullivan is and was a joke.
Grant & Durrett were compromised by working for the DMN but are decent writers.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 25, 2008 11:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
josey, who would you consider
to be a poster that uses careful thought, nuance and research?
The Fake Spaghetti Clint should not get an exception because of his temperament.
Josey Wails is and was a joke.
Lots of counting stats/misinformed info, sucky poster but not being able to cope with other posters disagreeing with you is a hilarious deal-breaker. Heard him on BAD Radio this past summer getting pounded for his take that Tom Hicks spends enough on payroll because he believes whatever I type 10 millon times, could hear the "hurt" in my whining when all the other posters didn’t agree with me and just sat in my Kia and LOL knowing full well how far my tail was stuck up my ass.
Josey Whines is and always will be compromised by not being man enough to publish his real name.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Dec 26, 2008 12:12 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
We're talking about what constitutes good sportswriting in DFW, Rodney
Come back when you’re sober.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 26, 2008 12:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Aaaaaauuuugggghhh
Still presuming to give instructions to other posters! Just wow …..
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Dec 26, 2008 1:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I heard Richard Durrett
on the Norm-a-thon today and I’m fairly encouraged by what he said.
He said Ranger fans shouldn’t buy what this team is currently trying to sell.
He also couldn’t understand why this organization did not extend Washington into 2010 if they really believed he was their manager of the future.
We’ll see how he covers the team but at least there’s somebody else who will ask honest questions about this thing.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 26, 2008 5:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good aside
Not sure what Durrett refers to as “selling”, but you’ve got a point.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Dec 26, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 26, 2008 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Problem
is that all Galloway does is talk crap about everyone. He only writes for the sensationalism factor. He doesnt bother with facts or information. All he wants to do is piss people off.
He’s a hack and a joke and everyone knows it
by Horns130 on Dec 23, 2008 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why Josey likes him
LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
by DaheelzCM on Dec 23, 2008 7:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and there are plenty of
Josey Wales types in the metroplex that love to read Galloway’s crap. The mindless feed off his garbage.
by RangersOCD on Dec 23, 2008 9:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As OC would say
This.
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
by lonestarJon on Dec 23, 2008 10:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of the mindless prefer to feed off
mindless cheerleaders.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 23, 2008 11:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're simply
a mindless anti-cheerleader.
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by t ball on Dec 24, 2008 7:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to be too cliche
But a broken clock is right twice a day.
by FuturePants on Dec 23, 2008 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on Dec 23, 2008 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Heres what I sent
"So…I hear you want to give Evan Grant the axe
…Do you know who miles is? I wouldn’t fall asleep tonight if I were you."
by SaltyGoesYard on Dec 23, 2008 10:20 AM CST reply actions 7 recs
epic
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 23, 2008 10:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Epic and...
…rec’d
Physician: Primum non nocere
Batter: First, make no out
by Chad Crudup on Dec 23, 2008 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm...
I wonder where all those DMN bloggers are going to go if that blog is shut down.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Dec 23, 2008 10:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
err, -1…
http://minormoosings.blogspot.com/
by Goyogringo on Dec 23, 2008 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
to slc
http://minormoosings.blogspot.com/
by Goyogringo on Dec 23, 2008 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh shit
Ohhhhh shit.
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
by lonestarJon on Dec 23, 2008 11:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You didn't.
/Fucks self
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not Cool
That’s not even funny to joke about man. I left that blog and came here b/c those people are the definition of idiots.
by Horns130 on Dec 23, 2008 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you're a sheep for saying that
baaaaaah….
ugh
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on Dec 23, 2008 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They can be dealt with
Nah, noob.
by Brian Thomas on Dec 23, 2008 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Warheads to foreheads
Let’s do it, Thomas!!
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
response:
Thank you for taking the time to write with your concern. Thanks for the kind words about Evan Grant, too. I couldn’t agree with you more that he is an excellent beat reporter.
The newspaper industry is facing a difficult financial challenge. Our editor announced in early November that we and the Fort Worth Star-Telegram were exploring ways to work together as we deal with that challenge.
Both newspapers are looking for ways that make sense for us to work together and save money. All of us will have to wait to see how that turns out. Meanwhile, I appreciate your note and welcome your thoughts.
Thanks again for writing.
Garry Leavell
Sports Editor
The Dallas Morning News
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 23, 2008 10:31 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
the exact reply I just got
I thought I was special…….cut and paste baby!!!
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on Dec 23, 2008 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
my response
Mr. Leavell and Mr. Yates,
What are the chances that he is “re-allocated” to the FWST and still allowed to cover the Rangers?
I understand the goal of cutting cost but is it not underutilizing his talents and the connections he has made working as the beat writer for the Rangers by moving him to the Cowboys?
When will this shakeup become “official”?
Would the best way to deal with the challenges of the industry be to merge the DMN and the FWST in order for one to continue as a daily newspaper instead of both (eventually) going out of business?
Thanks,
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 23, 2008 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There is nothing official with regards to any decisions regarding the Rangers and the Star-Telegram. Hopefully, there will be enough readers for both the Morning News and Star-Telegram to continue for many years to come.
Have a good holiday and thanks again for your interest.
Garry Leavell
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 23, 2008 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what else can I do to show my support for Evan Grant/the DMN’s coverage of the Rangers?
I think you have made your support evident. We will certainly share your sentiments with others at the DMN.
Garry Leavell
lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 23, 2008 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lip service
it sounds like Leavell doesn’t have much pull.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yuuup
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 23, 2008 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Or
he can’t really comment on what is going on.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 23, 2008 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Making him
the wrong person to email in the first place.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
then who should be emailed?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 23, 2008 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The "others"
or nobody at all.
You think a message board-hyped email flood to a low-level editor is going to change the fundamental nature of that failing business?
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 12:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
change the fundamental nature of that failing business?
the only change is away from print media, a la the christian science monitor
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 23, 2008 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
From what I've been told
the internet ad revenue is significantly less than the print ads.
Whoever runs the thing could clearly give a flying F about baseball coverage. Not sure if Leavell and the other guy will change anything — hundreds of emails or not. MJH made this point in the OP. Pick your battles.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
response
You can e-mail Morning News editor Bob Mong at bmong@dallasnews.com.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 23, 2008 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is he like "The top"
Because if he is, I doubt he’ll so much as click “delete” to these emails.
But, at least, if enough emails are sent to “him”, somebody will be forced to explain to him the amount of interest ($) in Rangers baseball coverage.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would be willing to bet
that it costs a lot less to pay for bandwidth, servers, and web developers than it does to print papers and pay people to deliver them along the routes.
by jwiscarson on Dec 23, 2008 2:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That is inevitable
Nobody disagrees with that.
In the short-term, the revenue won’t be there due to switching costs.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well its the worst kept secret in dallas
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 23, 2008 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hell another newspaper REPORTED it lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 23, 2008 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How many companies
publicly talk about their internal strategies?
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 23, 2008 1:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Companies that have no other options
like GM and Ford, for example.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
they are talking about it because they’re asking for a handout.
The papers aren’t in that position (yet anyway).
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 23, 2008 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How would you describe their position?
They need a bailout — federal or private — to maintain their current status.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Big difference
between federal and private bailouts.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 23, 2008 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's the scale we are at, though, no?
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
I don’t think the Fed. Govt is going to bailout the newspaper industry — it’s not considered vital to the overall economy I don’t think.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 23, 2008 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My point exactly
What’s the problem then?
Adam and Zywica can just deploy LSJ and I to do the reporting for free. We’ll come up with some topics of discussion through research, and 400 post arguments can ensue.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And you won't achieve either of those
without significant disclosure of what the **** you are doing with your papers.
Like: congress finds out that GM’s and Ford’s business models suck.
Congress awards them no money.
Why would anyone contribute money, via ads or otherwise, to people who are unaware how to spend it?
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OK
But I’m not sure that guy answering a flood of message based source emails is going to result in getting a federal bailout :)
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 23, 2008 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
*board not based
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 23, 2008 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The federal bailout
was a joke man.
I’m just saying that a serious capital injection of some magnitude would be necessary to revamp the industry properly.
With that said, I could care less if the industry fails. We lose Evan Grant. Ok, that sucks. I’m still going to watch the games and I’m still going to make efforts to read independent, nuanced, and informed opinions as part of my baseball fanhood.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I know it was a joke
hence the :)
I agree with you. In fact I’m not sure where we disagreed.
I just don’t think flooding that guy’s inbox is going to solve anything — I’m sure they are aware that there are a few Rangers diehards out there.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 23, 2008 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha yeah
I’ve read and re-read this thread to try to synthesize it, myself.
I definitely missed the " :) " and I’m pretty sure that we were in agreement mostly.
My last conclusion, or anything to add on the matter really, is that I think we will still get what we want in the end. Names may change, titles may change, but the product that we want so badly will be supplied to us one way or another. I’m not worried about that.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As a matter of fact
who are the “others.”
Who must the sentiments be shared with in order for them to be considered legitimate business interests?
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i think that may require another email lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 23, 2008 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i asked who else i can share my sentiments with
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 23, 2008 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Something else we should do
is visit the DMN Rangers blog a number of times each day. I really don’t care too much if the DMN gets their print reports from the FWST. However, EG’s newsletters and the DMN Rangers blog (notably EG’s and MJH’s input) provides this Ranger fanatic some good information that would be missed.
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on Dec 23, 2008 11:03 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
If Grant.....
isn’t doing the beat reporting he will not be working for the DMN. So keep that in mind. There will be no newsletter and what value he has to the blog (if it survives) will be gone.
by bdavison94 on Dec 23, 2008 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Grant
Is still at the Dallas Morning News but no longer on the Rangers. He is now the Cowboys beat writer. That change has already taken place.
by FuturePants on Dec 23, 2008 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He could always be
reassigned to the Rangers. :)
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on Dec 23, 2008 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And I'm betting....
that he’ll take his leave of the DMN as soon as he can find another baseball job. He’s a baseball writer first. I highly doubt he’s interested in being the 8th person writing about the Cowboys at the DMN.
My point was that Evan won’t hang around to write the blog and a newsletter. Not too mention the DMN won’t be sending any writers on the road or to all the games anymore so what great insight would Evan offer over any other casual fan at that point?
by bdavison94 on Dec 23, 2008 1:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree
Evan has invested too much in baseball to be lumped in with Cowboys reporters.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 23, 2008 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also sent
CC to Adam and Jamey. Stressed that we know about the economic impacts but decisions are being made in the wrong spots to address the problem.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Dec 23, 2008 2:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Heh
Correct me if I’m wrong, Ed.
Is the decision making behind this newspaper not a complete shit show?
It could just be one man’s opinion. But there seems to be a disconnect.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just as when we're criticizing Rangers decisions
we need to keep in mind that we only know a tiny portion of all the things they have to consider and the constrictions within they make these decisions.
We can sit here and say it makes much more sense for them to keep Grant, blah, blah, blah, but we really have absolutely no idea what the value is over there of any writer/format/blog/column in terms of their revenue.
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by t ball on Dec 23, 2008 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
All true
However I did elaborate to them on things they were spending for that are either not well received, or don’t push revenue. And clearly, I have no executive position within the DMN, don’t own stock in the holding company, don’t subscribe, and don’t read ‘em online except re the Rangers. Whatever decisions they make are in somebody’s self interest, which is again … and typically …. not news.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Dec 23, 2008 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, we can't quantify it as precisely
But from a macroeconomic perspective, it can’t be that difficult to speculate about what issues they are facing. I mean, everything I have said is pure speculation on my part. I have a friend who interned with the DMN for a couple of years and he relays certain aspects of the business to me, but that doesn’t make my opinion any more informed than the rest of yours’.
But the assertion that we cannot accurately ballpark the situation they are facing in terms of opportunity costs, is quite fallible.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Accurately ballpark?
I’ll take ballpark, but we cannot accurately judge the situation.
Funny we’ve been talking about this so much today. Tonight I went to the grocery store and a guy was in there trying to get people to subscribe to just the Sunday edition, pushing the idea of the value of the coupons.
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by t ball on Dec 23, 2008 8:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
All these internet people want to change
the print media. Seems a bit ironic to me. I don’t personally subscribe to the DMN, but I do read it daily from my puter. If you expect a say in the newspaper, then you should at least be paying for it. That is the problem, isn’t it? They’re not receiving enough money, so they can’t afford to keep Evan in baseball. I wish it wasn’t so. Maybe we should wish 30 consecutive losing seasons on the cowboys if we want more attention paid to the Rangers.
"Evolution happened, now get over it." Michael Shermer
by rodcarew on Dec 23, 2008 3:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Internet people
don’t really care what happens to print media, was my impression.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 4:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't pay google either
yet they seem to find a way to make money.
Nolan Ryan is the Greatest Pitcher ever, because Google says so.
"BTW I’m officially welching ab03. Yeah I planned too all along, but I figured I’d try to get off the hook with double or nothing first."- Sharky
by DJCahill on Dec 24, 2008 4:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In related news...
"The Washington Post and The Baltimore Sun announced on Tuesday that they would share some of their articles and pictures. The move adds two major players to the fast-growing roster of newspapers that are cooperating with their regional competitors to get more coverage out of their diminished news staffs.
"The Sun and The Post have, in effect, divided up responsibility for much of the local and sports news in their region. In addition, they will be able to use each other’s national and international work for the first time.
“In the last few months, papers around the country have struck several content-sharing agreements of varying degrees, including The Miami Herald, The Palm Beach Post and The Sun-Sentinel of Fort Lauderdale; The Dallas Morning News and Star-Telegram of Fort Worth; and a group of eight major papers in Ohio.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/24/business/media/24paper.html?_r=1
"Hold up that (expletive) Cubs (expletive). (Expletive) them." -- Patti Blagojevich.
by Lucas on Dec 24, 2008 1:59 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Cuban weighs in
http://blogmaverick.com/2008/12/24/why-pro-sports-need-newspapers/
Similar to a post I made a week or so ago. Doesn’t seem like a popular idea to LSB…
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Dec 25, 2008 12:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
beatwriters being supported would be bad.
Its mostly just the columnists that I don;t see bringing anything new to the table. I don’t see any of the local columnists being any better than bloggers or talk radio.
Nolan Ryan is the Greatest Pitcher ever, because Google says so.
"BTW I’m officially welching ab03. Yeah I planned too all along, but I figured I’d try to get off the hook with double or nothing first."- Sharky
by DJCahill on Dec 25, 2008 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
the columnists are usually the ones that don’t actually put any effort into their writing. They’re not the ones that have to go out and actually find any information. They just take what’s already out there and give their 2 cents on it.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Dec 25, 2008 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
It depends on the value of contacts per se.
Regardless of what Galloway wants to write, he can pick up his phone and call JD and quote him. Bloggers can’t do that.
I’ll leave it at that, but I’m not defending Galloway.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Dec 25, 2008 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course Galloways contacts are valuable.
It’s what he does with that privelige is what sucks.
by FuturePants on Dec 25, 2008 10:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bloggers have good contacts too
I bet Hindman talked more to JD this past season about the Rangers than Galloway did.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Dec 26, 2008 12:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
x
I bet Hindman talked more to JD this past season about the Rangers than Gallowaydidhas in his liefetime.
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
by lonestarJon on Dec 26, 2008 9:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Galloway talked to JD quite a bit during both 2006 & 2007
(had him on his show and featured lots of quotes in his columns) but I’m not sure about last year. I do know Galloway had lots of quotes from Nolan Ryan in his columns plus had him on his show 3-4 times during the 2008 season.
I bet JD talked to Hindman several times and by doing so he probably received lots of positive coverage.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 26, 2008 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And...with Hindman now at the DMN
you can bet your ass he won’t say anything negative about the team.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 26, 2008 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
galloway
wouldnt say something positive to save his life, oh wait he would but it would only be about the real baseball man nolan ryan.
I don’t care about positive or negative really, but at least be a real journalist and back up the statements with facts and logic and not resort to childish nicknames for the general manager of an mlb team.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Dec 26, 2008 10:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Galloway wrote a few different articles
on Josh Hamilton throughout last season that were both positive and glowing.
JD gets kicked in the nuts for the same reasons that John Hart before him got kicked in the nuts.
Galloway rips JD because of his performance and nothing else. Until Nolan became his immediate superior, JD was a horrific GM.
It has nothing to do with his radio show or for this so called penchant that Galloway has for being some kind of media firestarter.
If that bothers all the sunshine-pumpers who think JD can do no wrong, good!!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 26, 2008 10:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Way to stick it to the man!
just because some people think JD has done a lot of good (and yes bad) doesnt mean they are a sunshine pumper.
Galloway rips daniels because he chooses to, he also chooses to ignore the good moves he has made as well. As far as nolan making JD better, well I don’t remember Nolan ryan making the trade with atlanta?
Or the trade with boston?
He was however around for the lack of trading this year, instead of giving nolan credit for keeping boy blunder on a leash how about placing some blame for not trading away guys like milton bradley for some prospects?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Dec 26, 2008 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You know your hero Galloway
has admitted to JD that its mostly just schtick, right?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Dec 26, 2008 12:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is this what JD told your little group last summer?
Didn’t he also tell a little story on Teixeira as well?
Galloway is hardly a sportswriting hero of mine (that’s reserved for the incomparable Jim Murray), has his hits and misses with columns but he’s been very accurate on JD from the get-go.
All of us will have to give JD credit for the Tex trade if those magic beans ever do anything of note in The Show / help the Rangers become a contender. Until then, the only thing that trade has done is helped the team’s minor league rankings.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 26, 2008 6:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still waiting
For your discourse on what the Rangers should be doing. You’re full of complaints and never provide any real solutions.
Instead of stockpiling these “magic beans” and improving the clubs’ chances long-term, what should JD be doing? Don’t nit-pick his trades. Please name a few FAs or trade targets JD should be going after. Because these Magic Beans make for pretty good trade chips as well.
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
by TheBZA on Dec 27, 2008 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This isn't the first time we've asked you
to provide solutions, Wails.
Please name a few FAs or trade targets JD should be going after.
I doubt it’ll be the last request you ignore, either.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 27, 2008 3:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BZA, Fire the manager (which is very critical)
fix the defense, improve the starting pitching.
If you have decided that Young is not the long-term answer at SS, move him to another position this upcoming year. Same goes for Kinsler.
Find a one year replacement and then hope and pray that Andrus really is the goods.
Starting pitching – CC, Burnett or DLowe.
Next?!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 27, 2008 5:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So your solutions are
1. Play better
2. If things don’t work out, move some players around
3. Find someone to play for us
4. Get in a bidding war with the Yankees for an ace and an injury prone overrated starter or try bringing in a 36 year old pitcher to save the rotation.
Brilliant!!!
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Dec 27, 2008 7:07 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
lol
The secrets to success are so simple!
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
by lonestarJon on Dec 27, 2008 7:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
CC was available to everybody
at one time this off-season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 29, 2008 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You honestly think
CC would’ve come here?
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 29, 2008 11:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So:
Please name a few FAs or trade targets JD should be going after.
I guess your answer is an old ass Derek Lowe?
by FuturePants on Dec 29, 2008 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This organization is acting like
the 2010 season is not going to be played.
You simply can’t plug 5 kids into your rotation and expect them to be successful no matter how good Baseball Prospectus says they are going to be.
Padilla isn’t going to be here in 2010 and I seriously doubt this team lets Millwood pitch enough to get vested for 2010 either.
We’re going to need some war-horse (maybe two of them) in 2010 to take the hill 33 times, give us 200 IPs and a 4.50 ERA and there’s not going to be anybody here to do it.
Then we’ll all sit around the campfire pining for 2011 & 2012.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 29, 2008 11:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dude, you ppay enough the pope will come here and pitch every 5th day
nevermind CC
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Dec 30, 2008 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So would the entire team get to ride in the Popemobile?
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
by lonestarJon on Dec 30, 2008 9:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the fans get to ride the popemobile
every Wednesday home game
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jan 1, 2009 7:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But the popemobile
will have the Decker hot dogs logo and be shaped like a giant hot dog.
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by t ball on Jan 2, 2009 8:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
with a miter on top.
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by t ball on Jan 2, 2009 8:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's f'n cool
who says the rangers dont care about their fans?
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jan 5, 2009 9:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
CC wasn't coming here
even if Ryan put him in a headlock. You are just unreal.
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by t ball on Dec 29, 2008 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
tball, you never know until you make an effort
to sign one of these guys.
Burnett was also available (he almost took an offer from Atlanta) and Lowe is currently available.
Why is Tom Hicks sitting on his wallet?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 29, 2008 11:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But
Why do you want Derek Lowe? I certainly would not be crazy about the team making a significant offer to him. He’s old.
by FuturePants on Dec 29, 2008 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lowe is a sinker ball pitcher
(which may play well in Arlington) and he has thrown 180-220 IPs in the last 7 years.
The Rangers are going to need somebody like that in 2010.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 29, 2008 12:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You do realize
that FA pitchers come here to get injured. :(
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on Dec 29, 2008 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My guess is
that if AJM or Newberg chose to pick up the phone, they could get an interview with JD. Newberg has had JD out to Newberg nights, I doubt he’d refuse the call.
Nolan Ryan is the Greatest Pitcher ever, because Google says so.
"BTW I’m officially welching ab03. Yeah I planned too all along, but I figured I’d try to get off the hook with double or nothing first."- Sharky
by DJCahill on Dec 26, 2008 7:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
just add him to the newbergreport
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Dec 26, 2008 8:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Ambiguously Gay Duo
They can be dealt with Nah, noob.
by Brian Thomas on Dec 23, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Warheads to foreheads Let’s do it, Thomas!!
“A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for.”
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 23, 2008 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just killing time until I'm reincarnated.
by Clueless on Dec 31, 2008 2:59 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
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