Sammy Sosa, 2009 Ranger DH?
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 25, 2008 9:12 PM CST
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Sammy Sosa says that he's still waiting for an offer to play in 2009.
Normally, my reaction would be, who cares?
But of course, Sosa was brought here in 2007 to be the DH, at the urging of Rudy Jaramillo and Ron Washington. And while he didn't seem, to me, to be very good, the spin from the organization and much of the local media was that Sosa was a terrific success story and a productive member of the team.
And the Rangers are supposedly wanting to get more righthanded at the plate. The only spot, other than third base, where a righty bat could really be added is at DH (which presupposes that Hank Blalock will be dealt, although that seems to be treated as a fait accompli in some circles anyway). The desperation for a righty bat is such that the Rangers are supposedly kicking the tires on Gary Sheffield.
Now, personally, I find the reports of the Rangers' interest in Pat Burrell more appealing...but if they really want to go the cheap, washed-up righty DH bat route, and if they really believe the spin that was generated during 2007 about Sideshow Sammy, then why aren't they looking at bringing him back?
I mean, there's the problem that he can't hit righties, and that he feels he should be a full-time player, and of course, the fact that we heard all during 2007 that the Rangers couldn't possibly disrespect such a legend by releasing him (even though they had no real role for him late in the 2007 season and no other team wanted him).
But that, if you believe the hype, was irrelevant. Sideshow Sammy was the team's first half MVP, according to T.R. Sullivan, and should have been the team's All Star rep, according to various ESPN talking heads.
Given that he was supposedly so great, and given that the Rangers apparently are so desperate for a righty DH they're considering the likes of Sheffield, why wouldn't they just bring Sideshow back?
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Burrell
how much talk has there been about him and the Rangers?
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by tdi1985 on Dec 25, 2008 9:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Adam
You cruel bastard, you nearly gave me a heart attack with that headline.
Don’t do that again on Christmas night.
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
by lonestarJon on Dec 25, 2008 9:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
My Christmas headache
nearly became a Christmas aneurysm.
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by Maximilian on Dec 25, 2008 9:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow, a way to bring back the sosa hate has been found
But you know, no, I dont think Sosa was a failure in Texas.
His fluke (lucky and unrepeatable yes, but it still happened) RISP numbers raised his production to semi-respectable status despite his below average numbers for a DH, blocking Botts doesn’t appear to have been of any importance at all, and for those of us who wern’t resenting every at bat he got the 600th homerun and the lead up to it was entertaining.
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by DSheppard on Dec 25, 2008 9:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Then shouldn't they bring him back?
They want a veteran righty bat to DH, and replace Blalock. Why not bring back Sosa, if he wasn’t a failure before?
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 25, 2008 9:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I listed 3 reasons it wasn't a failure.
None of them are currently applicable.
As for the org itself, is the reasoning really necessary? We all know they arn’t considering him. 2 years older, another year out of baseball, the 600th homerun spectacle is gone (what, you want them to admit that was a reason?), their needs have changed, etc. And some rumor that the rangers had a non-serious conversation about Sheffield in the winter meetings.. whatever, call me when it happens. I doubt he is their first option if Blalock is traded.
This is clearly about 2007 and your apparently remaining resent of the love he got. Why don’t you explain why it offends you so? Or tell me how Botts and whatever random DH they could have used up until the point Sosa was benched would have effected that season or helped us in the future that makes it an issue worth bringing up now?
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by DSheppard on Dec 25, 2008 10:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with most of what you said
His fluke luck made him somewhat productive but it was a terrible predictor of future success. I see no reason to bring him back and I hope he is not brought back but that doesn’t mean that he wasn’t somewhat productive here.
by groundingout on Dec 26, 2008 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
someone spiked your eggnog
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Dec 25, 2008 9:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 25, 2008 9:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+another facepalm
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by lonestarJon on Dec 25, 2008 9:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yay Google Img Search!
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by AirJordan on Dec 25, 2008 10:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
made me giggle
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on Dec 25, 2008 10:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon, these are terrible.
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by oc on Dec 25, 2008 11:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the first one from
lsj is decent, that’s the one that made me giggle a little. Not the 2nd one…no offense AJ.
Decent mind you.
Show me something Better brotha!!!!! make my fatass chuckle!!!!
Merry Christmas
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by Ryin A on Dec 25, 2008 11:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a crazy messed-up world... It's a doggy-dogg world...
by oc on Dec 25, 2008 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
made my juggy jingle a bit...nice....
Have a good one man. Ho Ho, yeah.
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by Ryin A on Dec 25, 2008 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That ham I just ate
tasted better going down. Thanks Adam.
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by RangerMad on Dec 25, 2008 9:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Weren't there some of the usual sunshine pumpers
telling us how not waiving Sosa insured that the Rangers would have a good name with future Latin American prospects?
What a load of bs.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 25, 2008 10:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well since we are only a year removed from that
Its tough to say one way or another how it really affected that.
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by Gdawg on Dec 26, 2008 12:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
'Sideshow' Sammy...
Was he busted for something during the 2007 season that was never reported? Did he make a fool of himself outside the clubhouse? Screw with team chemistry? Call out the team? Did I miss something?
Sosa seemed to be a model citizen during his time here…
Please clarify the use of ‘Sideshow’ please.
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by oc on Dec 25, 2008 10:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sammy had an OPS below .700 v
RHP’s in 315 plate appearances and the dumb-ass manager kept hitting him 4th or 5th.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Dec 25, 2008 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Terrific! Put it an envelope and mail it to two years ago when I might have cared.
The truth is Adam can’t stand the fact that his constant Bottsex ultimately proved fruitless…
Taking cheap jabs at Sosa is old.
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by oc on Dec 25, 2008 10:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
?
The truth is Adam can’t stand the fact that his constant Bottsex ultimately proved fruitless…
I can’t stand that fact?
Really?
I’m just sitting here at home, banging my head against my desk over Jason Botts’ failure and gnashing my teeth?
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 25, 2008 10:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you stop now, you'll avoid getting a headache.
It's a crazy messed-up world... It's a doggy-dogg world...
by oc on Dec 25, 2008 10:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The "sideshow" aspect
Was his chase for some large number of home runs. It may have attrated a few butts into seats, but it was …. a sideshow.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Dec 25, 2008 11:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i endorse further sideshows
RJ 300 wins please.
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by DSheppard on Dec 25, 2008 11:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe I've been 'taken to the house' as they say.
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by oc on Dec 25, 2008 11:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it was also
a lot more exciting than any “mainshow” aspects of the season, aside from maybe the Tex trade.
Never rule out Jim Bowden.
That guy is effing crazy.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Dec 26, 2008 12:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow I agree with Josey
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by rentz on Dec 26, 2008 7:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sideshow Sammy
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
by lonestarJon on Dec 25, 2008 10:58 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
legitimate lol
not an asskiss lol
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on Dec 25, 2008 11:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
Thanks.
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
by lonestarJon on Dec 25, 2008 11:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hearing Sammy
try to do the Sideshow Bob grumble would be priceless
Gerald Laird: One Man, 5 Scoops.
by Maximilian on Dec 26, 2008 12:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Scatter a pile of bow rakes outside his front door and hilarity will ensue.
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by oc on Dec 26, 2008 2:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
AJM
must have been bored
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by Dirk Diggler on Dec 25, 2008 10:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
heh
nice job
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by Dirk Diggler on Dec 25, 2008 10:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BUT HE COULD FILL THE GAP AT FIRST BASE!!!
/Cahill
by Athos on Dec 25, 2008 10:37 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
heh
awesome.
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Dec 25, 2008 11:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
After seeing Botts, and Cat, and Broussard and ...
I still don’t think Sosa would have been any worse.
We’ve seen a lot of shitastic 1B out there since Teix left.
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by DJCahill on Dec 27, 2008 4:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought anybody could play 1B though, Dan?
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 27, 2008 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am actually
holding my testicles in my hand, severed from my spermatic cord.
I thought you were down with resigning SamSo.
Now you owe me a steak dinner….and a testicle reattachment if at all possible.
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on Dec 25, 2008 10:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh brother...
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by rangers85 on Dec 25, 2008 11:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Charlie reacting to news of Sosa signing in 2007
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by rangers85 on Dec 25, 2008 11:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sammy signing
i get that this is tongue and cheek but i also think that if this is some sort of modest proposal, the thing you are mocking is the fact that the rangers are going after the likes of gary sheffield and pat burrell, right?
Because actually, you really should go after Sosa rather than Sheffield (for sure) and Burrell (most likely).
I can’t really decide if the rangers really do need a RH DH. Does bringing someone in block Ramirez? Wasn’t he going to catch in AAA full time anyway? Is anybody else getting blocked? I can kind of see the virtues of bringing in a righty DH (veteran or otherwise).
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Dec 25, 2008 11:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What does the number 1.024 mean to you?
Cause that was Sammy’s OPS versus lefties in ’07.
Considering our DH in ’09 is likely going to be Franky the Cat or Hankles, this move could actually make sense.
The only reason Sammy was such a drain in ‘07 was that R-Was stupidly decided to let him play against all pitchers instead of just lefties. And of course Sammy can’t hit righties anymore so he went .222/.267/.410 versus RHP in ‘07. But that’s not his fault. He is what he is. He can’t help that we tried to make him do something he can’t do. That’s on R-Was.
A straight platoon of Sosa and Cat could be a super cheap way to get a ~.850 OPS out of DH spot in ’09.
It won’t happen, of course, but it’s not as ridiculous as people here seem to think.
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by thedirkatron on Dec 25, 2008 11:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
As you said, It won't happen
because people want shit changed. Do I disagree with you re: Sosa/Cat? Not necessarily, other than Sosa is one more year removed from steroid use. In all seriousness, I see your point…the platoon makes sense (given Sosa returns to 07 perf), problem is the potential for retarding the growth of a youngin’.
D-town Usa.
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on Dec 25, 2008 11:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point, but
The only reason Sammy was such a drain in ‘07 was that R-Was stupidly decided to let him play against all pitchers instead of just lefties.
This is the reason this is so rediculous – it’s very, very likely a near certainty that Ron would make the same mistake again. As long as Wash is manager Sammy would be the full-time DH and placed somewhere in the lineup where he can “break up” the left-handed hitters – not used in a lefty-killing bench bat role.
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
by lonestarJon on Dec 26, 2008 12:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Spell 'ridiculous' correctly please.
It's a crazy messed-up world... It's a doggy-dogg world...
by oc on Dec 26, 2008 2:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh you rebel you.
It's a crazy messed-up world... It's a doggy-dogg world...
by oc on Dec 26, 2008 3:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
R-Was would do what JD/Nolan told him to do. And if he didn't, then he's an easy guy to fire.
And also, Sosa at this point would be much more likely to accept a role where he got 200-250 PA’s and be happy doing it.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Dec 26, 2008 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You sure about that
He seemed to lose all that humility when we first signed him.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Dec 26, 2008 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
you are talking about a Sosa that hasn’t played since 2007 and has only played for one season of the past 3. Cat hasn’t posted an .850 OPS since 2001. If you’re talking about strictly against righties, the last time he had an OPS that good was in 2003. And this is the same Cat that posted a .741 OPS this past season and a .781 OPS in 2007. There are plenty of other factors to consider with Cat since he has had inconsistent playing time and some injury problems plus would probably be better off playing only as a DH, but still, that’s being pretty optimistic to think that him and Sosa give you anything close to an .850 OPS next year.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Dec 26, 2008 12:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are dead on
I never understood all the Sammy Hate. I could understand RW hate for playing him against righties, but Sammy produced tremenously well.
It was even more inexplicable to see the sammy hate, coupled with AJMs oral servicing of Cat, who was more expensive, and less useful.
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by DJCahill on Dec 26, 2008 7:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate it when we agree. It gives me both the heebies as well as the jeebies.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Dec 26, 2008 2:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 26, 2008 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So, as you've typed
it, there are exactly two heebies?
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Dec 28, 2008 5:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I know.
I effed that sentence up something fierce.
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by thedirkatron on Dec 28, 2008 6:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
a better super cheap way to get ~ 850 OPS at DH
play freaking Max Ramirez there.
Don't believe the hype about sloppy seconds. They ain't bad.
by tricer on Dec 26, 2008 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Very true.
But I view him as a long term catching option.
Would you catch him 40-50 games, too?
Cause that’s the only way I’d be okay with a move like that.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Dec 26, 2008 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Slammin Sammy!
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by Agreen07 on Dec 25, 2008 11:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yummy
poop slinging Sammy Sosa monkeys! :)
Bobby Jindal '12
by dstar442005 on Dec 25, 2008 11:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
heh
Jason Kidd just got blocked out by the ref.
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-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Dec 26, 2008 12:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
good win
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Dec 26, 2008 12:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't look now but with a win tomorrow
they’ll be the 5th seed.
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by AirJordan on Dec 26, 2008 12:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You know
It’s hard to scoreboard or anything at this point, but these Mavs are going to surprise people, I think.
At this point in the season, there are 3 teams playing for 2 spots: Dallas, Phoenix, and Portland.
They’re all talented, but I honestly think Dallas is a notch above either. Phoenix is discombobulated and Portland can’t get their big men to play inside. My money is on Phoenix and Dallas. We’ll see, I suppose, but I think talks of the lottery for the Mavs were premature. Just have to put away a few of those wins against big-time teams before I can shake my dick at anyone.
P.S. Kidd has sealed quite a few wins with his supposed shitty defense. I guess to the habitual bitch-and-moaners, strips, steals, and weakside help don’t count when assessing defense. Fortunately the NBA does count such things.
by brettgardner on Dec 26, 2008 12:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am
surprised that the Mavs have played so well this season. I expected to be to terrible especially with Howard missing much of the season. But as you said they need to get some wins against big time teams (That lost against the Lakers sucked).
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by coolaid on Dec 26, 2008 12:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here you are being blinded by a few victories
The point is not to make the playoffs anymore with the Mavericks, it’s to win a championship.
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‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
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by tyd3311 on Dec 26, 2008 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You seem excited about getting the 7th or 8th seed and a first or second round loss?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Dec 26, 2008 6:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This team looks like
they have a good shot at being a 5th seed actually
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by Gdawg on Dec 26, 2008 6:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
5th seed, 8th seed
In the west, not much difference.. still not good enough to win.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Dec 26, 2008 6:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
5th seed is a huge difference
from the 8th seed
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Dec 26, 2008 6:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah it is.
Especially if the title is your goal.
by brettgardner on Dec 26, 2008 7:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You'll get much closer
being the 5th seed than the 8th seed.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Dec 26, 2008 8:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know.
I wasn’t being sarcastic or anything.
by brettgardner on Dec 26, 2008 8:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
For a team like the Mavs’, a higher seed just means they may lose in the 2nd round instead of the 1st.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Dec 27, 2008 9:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, not excited, content.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Dec 27, 2008 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not at all.
I’ve said all along that if the Mavs don’t win the championship this year the Kidd trade is a failure. I certainly don’t want to see that. I’m not content for anything less than a ring, I assure you.
by brettgardner on Dec 27, 2008 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This was actually the first Mavs game
of the season where I’ve watched more than just a few minutes here and there. I haven’t been watching much of the NBA since the Heat debacle from a few years ago. The Mavs didn’t look great, but with the way some people talk about them this season, I was expecting them to get dominated.
And I love seeing guys like Kidd and Barea play. Offensively, they aren’t much at this stage in their careers. But I love me some hustle and seeing PGs get those rebounds and always putting that extra effort there.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Dec 26, 2008 12:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Quit hating on Sosa
You are douchebag. Sosa had a good year for the Rangers in 2007. He didn’t cause any problems except take at bats from your boy Botts who sucks. Sosa is going to retire after the WBC. Let him be.
by BillyBobisdrunk on Dec 26, 2008 12:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one not getting this?
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by oc on Dec 26, 2008 2:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
You are not the only one.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 26, 2008 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If we're that desperate
Why not Nate Gold???
by SanDiegoKev on Dec 26, 2008 2:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Looks like it
oh well, it’s kind of dry humor
by SanDiegoKev on Dec 26, 2008 2:17 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sosa
This is what I was mentioning last week or so when all the sheffield talk popped up.
If they are even partially considering sheffield why not just bring sammy back, he could probably do just as well for less money.
Now does this mean I want sheffield or sosa to be the RH DH? Absofreakinlutely not! They have a good righthanded dh bat already in max ramierez.
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by rentz on Dec 26, 2008 7:19 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why block Jason Botts again?
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by willamos2 on Dec 26, 2008 8:06 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
Heh
Best reply of the thread.
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
by lonestarJon on Dec 26, 2008 8:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rangers not interested in Sosa
From FWST…
Daniels says Rangers not interested in Sosa
I just got an e-mail back from Texas Rangers general manager Jon Daniels. I asked him if the Rangers would have any interest in Sammy Sosa, who didn’t play this year after having a productive season for the Rangers in 2007, but wants to play again. Don’t expect to see Sosa back in Arlington in 2009 was basically Daniels’ response. “I don’t think we’ll pursue Sammy,” Daniels wrote. “He did a great job for us in 2007, but I’m not sure it’s a fit for us this year.”
Daniels also addressed another topic. While some owners and general managers are upset with the Yankees shelling out big bucks for CC Sabathia, A.J. Burnett and Mark Teixeira, Daniels isn’t one of them. The spending he’s more concerned about is with Anaheim, which has money after losing both Teixeira and Francisco Rodriguez (New York Mets). “We’ll watch closely to see how Anaheim reallocates its resources – that’s more of a concern to us than the Yankees at this point. The Angels have a track record of developing good players and combine that with a sizeable payroll – that’s what we’ll focus on, not New York.”
- Anthony Andro
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Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on Dec 26, 2008 8:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yet another reason I like Daniels
He could be like some GMs and complain that the Yankees are ruining baseball, or he can go about his business and do what he needs to do.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Dec 26, 2008 9:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Talking about the Angels spending. Read this:
Angels GM Tony Reagins told Mike DiGiovanna of the L.A. Times Wednesday that his club is “not likely” to retain outfielder Garret Anderson. Reagins also mentioned that the organization has no plans to pursue free agent outfielders Adam Dunn, Bobby Abreu or Pat Burrell. Reagins, of course, had already written off the idea of the Halos inking Manny Ramirez.
The Angels already have a fine outfield built around Vladimir Guerrero, Juan Rivera and Torii Hunter, with Reggie Willits providing depth off the bench. Gary Matthews Jr. probably won’t be ready for Opening Day after undergoing knee surgery in October, but he’ll also be a major contributor.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/12/angels-standing.html
That is good news for us.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 26, 2008 9:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Its not a bad OF
but I don’t know if I would consider that a fine enough OF to not consider a Burrell, Manny, or Dunn. Its good to see for the Rangers. This makes me feel all the more confident in the division being a toss-up next year.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Dec 26, 2008 10:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's crazy how they have spent so much money on that OF
and ours is still much better offensively and defensively at only a fraction of the cost.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 26, 2008 11:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You think our OF is better defensively than a GMJ-Torri-Rivera OF?
Maybe we’re better when they run old stumpy knees out there in RF, but even then I wouldn’t say we’re “much better”.
GMJ us a very good defensive COF’er and Torri is a very good defensive CF’er.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Dec 28, 2008 6:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True
I was assuming that Guerrero will play RF, my bad. How good is Rivera defensively though? I know Cruz has a good reputation on defense. Our guys have cannons of an arm, but you are right, Matthews and Hunter do cover a lot of range, and in that aspect, they are at least as good as we are.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 28, 2008 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean cover a lot of ground not range.
Also, they have great arms too if Guerrero plays out there.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 28, 2008 8:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not so sure about that
I don’t think that GMJ or Torrii are as good as their reps, and I think a Murphy-Byrd-Hamilton-Cruz gang is at least as good in the field as their top 4. Both GMJ and Torii were below average according to fangraphs defensive info.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Dec 29, 2008 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
GMJ is not a good defensive COF, at least that’s not what the stats show. Hunter isn’t that good in CF anymore. Rivera is also not that good of an OF to carry them and is past his prime with some injury problems these past couple of years. The only weakness we have defensively is Hamilton in CF and Murphy if he plays CF. And I can’t see Murphy playing much centerfield nor can I see a player like Hamilton not improving in CF. He’s got the tools for it, his problem seemed to be more inexperience.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Dec 29, 2008 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's close.
But certainly we can agree that the above assertion that we’re “much better” is false?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Dec 30, 2008 2:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are right in your argument.
I worded it wrong. I meant to say “much better” in the offensive side of things and only better defensively.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 30, 2008 5:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That I agree with.
Especially if we go with Hambone in LF, Byrd in CF and Cruz in RF.
I think Byrd is a better CF than Hamilton, and Hamilton would set the world on fire as a LF.
That’d be one of the best overall OF’s in the game.
But you just know that for 40 or so games this year they’ll find a way to work Cat in RF and Murphy in CF or some shit.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Dec 30, 2008 6:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I could see Dunn playing well for ANA
in a DH role. Lots of walks + great power. His strikeouts seem like a red flag, but they have so many contact hitters already.
I know I’d be a little unsettled seeing him go 1-3 every other game against us, but that 1 being a 2 run HR, coupled with a walk or 2.
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by Maximilian on Dec 27, 2008 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly...
the Angels are not done shopping yet and have money to spend, that’s of concern..the Rangers have no money to spend and have to do this, that, and the other in order to sign Ben Sheets…
"You shouldn't fuck around with windfalls"
LoneStarJon
by LAMuscleFag on Dec 26, 2008 11:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The Rangers have
now money that they are willing to spend.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on Dec 27, 2008 12:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
an important distinction.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 27, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who can the Angels get
to help them that much next year? If they’re not planning to pursue Dunn, Burrell, Abreu, or Manny, then who are they adding that makes them that great next year.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Dec 27, 2008 12:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They will probably get a starter to replace Garland
and sign Fuentes as their closer. However, they think that their offense is set, which is a huge mistake. That infield, as it currently stands, is just awful offensively (especially if they go with Figgins and Aybar at the left side of their infield).
by coolrangersfan on Dec 27, 2008 1:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
who can the angels get?
whoever the hell they want..that’s the point, the ball is in their court.
The Yankees slid in and got Teixera at the last second, until all the top guys are signed I would not believe anything i read.
The “we are not planning on signing such and such free agent” often times is posturing. If they feel they need to sign someone to stay atop the west they will do so unlike Big Daddy.
"You shouldn't fuck around with windfalls"
LoneStarJon
by LAMuscleFag on Dec 27, 2008 1:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Adam Dunn at 1B makes sense for them.
Also, Oliver Perez might have interest in playing for them.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 27, 2008 1:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Perez isn't that good
100 ERA+ in a contract year, way too many walks, too many HRs for a guy who gives up that many walks, and pretty poor fielding independent ERAs.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Dec 27, 2008 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It might be posturing
but it usually isn’t. They might say that they aren’t too interested or they haven’t talked to them yet, but you don’t usually see GMs say they have no interest in a FA and then go out and sign them.
Yeah, they can go out and get whoever they want, but the point is that they aren’t planning on getting anyone that will actually help.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Dec 27, 2008 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We are talking about Money Bags, Moreno here
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on Dec 27, 2008 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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