Is Tony Romo the new Jake Plummer?
by Adam J. Morris
on Dec 28, 2008 6:06 PM CST
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Hire Martz.
Fire Garrett.
"that’s like saying because i wear a hat it keeps aliens away, just because since i’ve worn the hat aliens have never come and anally probed me." -rentz
by coolaid on
Dec 28, 2008 6:09 PM CST
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i wonder if his back is still a real issue or something
even within the context of the last two decembers, romo just didnt look like he could throw properly the last couple weeks. It wasnt about stupid decisions (though they were there), his deep ball just wasnt anything like it normally is.
anyway the 3rd season of this is pretty distressing, but I still feel fine with him as the qb.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on
Dec 28, 2008 6:12 PM CST
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This team as a whole is making stupid mental mistakes. Romo hasn’t been this team’s savior yet, but there have been communication problems with his receivers where they aren’t on the same page on plays. This usually results in an interception. Toss is injuries to McBriar, Barber, and Jones and you get a brutal looking offense.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Dec 28, 2008 6:18 PM CST
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Not his back.
Its that we had Cory Procter blocking for him. That guy sucks and does not belong in the NFL.
"that’s like saying because i wear a hat it keeps aliens away, just because since i’ve worn the hat aliens have never come and anally probed me." -rentz
by coolaid on
Dec 28, 2008 6:20 PM CST
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this offense went downhill when kosier went out
Law of Averages, injuries screwed us this year…
We should be okay next year though…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 6:21 PM CST
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offensive line
last year…December came and our offensive line went out the window. Romo hasn’t played very well…but he RARELY has time to actually set his feet and throw a ball. Even when he tries to scramble a little…there’s more coming. when Romo has some time…he’s very good. this year..and last december..he’s had NO time whatsoever.
by Doc Mabee on
Dec 28, 2008 6:31 PM CST
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when Montrae Holland went down, and I realized that we had nothing but Proctor, I knew this season was not meant to be.
Gerald Laird: One Man, 5 Scoops.
by Maximilian on
Dec 28, 2008 6:27 PM CST
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I have always thought Romo was overrated......
and I’m still right.
The Cowboys will not succeed in the post season with him at QB. Romo will win games for the Cowboys, just not ones that count the most.
t ball on MY - "hate the contract, don't hate the player"
by bspate on
Dec 28, 2008 6:13 PM CST
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This is a silly criticism.
I bet you think A-Rod can’t win the big one, too?
by nivarsity on
Dec 28, 2008 7:20 PM CST
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Peyton Manning
See how many times he failed before winning.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on
Dec 29, 2008 11:58 AM CST
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no
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 6:16 PM CST
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Don't be silly
Romo is much more talented. But he has issues with turnovers and our offensive coordinators sucks too.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on
Dec 28, 2008 6:18 PM CST
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better q is, will wade be here next year?
i know jj has said yes, but, i doubt he expected anything like that in a must win game…
as much as i love stability, i’m not sure wade’s coming back now…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 6:20 PM CST
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I wouldn't bring him back
no fucking way.
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on
Dec 28, 2008 9:52 PM CST
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sorry for the vulgarities
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on
Dec 29, 2008 9:10 AM CST
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I only saw bits and pieces of today's game
But among them was a really curious (and sorry looking) sequence. After a schoolyard play to get a first down, an OT (yes the one usually flagged for motion) drew a 5 yard penalty. On the next play, Romo had the ball stripped and returned for an Iggles TD.
I don’t know the knock on Jake Plummer, but Romo doesn’t always seem conscious of what’s going on around him.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on
Dec 28, 2008 6:23 PM CST
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Romo reminds me a lot more of Danny White than Jake Plumber
could always play well, always get us a decent record, but always collapse epically when it truly meant something
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Dec 29, 2008 5:33 PM CST
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always... all 2 years?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on
Dec 29, 2008 7:54 PM CST
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at least danny white cared when he lost big games...
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Dec 30, 2008 3:37 PM CST
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He needs to grow.
He’s got to be a leader on that offense. He hasn’t inspired confidence. I think he can be a great NFL QB, but he needs to get his head under control if that is going to happen.
by Athos on
Dec 28, 2008 6:24 PM CST
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yeah
i think its more of an issue that romo could be headed towards being jake plummer but he still has the potential to grow beyond that.
it will take work
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on
Dec 28, 2008 6:26 PM CST
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I will not watch another Cowboys game
Untill Wade Phillips is fired.
Hopefully I will be watching opening kickoff next year.
by SaltyGoesYard on
Dec 28, 2008 6:25 PM CST
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old people tell me he's Danny White
yeah, i don’t know what that means…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 6:27 PM CST
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I think I understand the comparison
Definitely old, and have casually watched Cowboys for a long time. Can’t be specific, but some things do remind me of White.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on
Dec 28, 2008 6:29 PM CST
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Wiki
White made the Pro Bowl in 1982, and led the Cowboys to three consecutive NFC championship games (1980-1982), but was criticized after the Cowboys lost each of the three despite having been favored in all three games
White’s statistically career-best 1983 season wasn’t even enough to quiet the critics. The Cowboys ended that season with consecutive blowout losses to the rival Washington Redskins (at home) and the San Francisco 49ers after a 12-2 start. To add insult to injury, the Cowboys lost the NFC Wildcard Playoff game to the Los Angeles Rams. That apparently was enough for White to lose his starting job to Hogeboom at the start of the 1984 season.
Under Hogeboom, the Cowboys started 4-1 to begin the 1984 season, but then a loss to division rival St. Louis and ineffective play by Hogeboom convinced coach Tom Landry to reinstate White as his starter. The Cowboys finished 9-7 and missed the playoffs in 1984, but, with White as quarterback, made it back in 1985. They lost to the Los Angeles Rams again in the playoffs, however.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on
Dec 28, 2008 6:30 PM CST
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You know
my dad said the same thing and he has been an avid Cowboys fan since Dandy Don.
by Michael Cave on
Dec 28, 2008 6:31 PM CST
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I watched the game with my dad and uncle
I asked “is Romo the next DWhite” they said, not until he atleast gets us to the NFC Championship game….right now he doesn’t hold a candle to DWhite (as far as getting us to the next level), who I remember from my younger days.
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on
Dec 28, 2008 9:55 PM CST
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yes
get rid of him, the coching staff, roy willimas, and to too.
by bstair on
Dec 28, 2008 6:31 PM CST
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Problems with the Cowboys, in order:
Cory Proctor
Lack of a vocal leader
Coaching staff, top to bottom
Injuries
Jerry Jones
Gerald Laird: One Man, 5 Scoops.
by Maximilian on
Dec 28, 2008 6:35 PM CST
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Jerry belongs on the top of the list
by Adam J. Morris on
Dec 28, 2008 6:36 PM CST
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yup
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on
Dec 28, 2008 6:37 PM CST
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agree.....
won’t win another superbowl with Jerry as owner/GM.
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 6:54 PM CST
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jerry
i’m fine with him as an owner, but i think he holds the team back by being the gm too.
the team would be much better had parcells been the gm and had full power.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on
Dec 28, 2008 7:29 PM CST
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gm
isn’t their job to accumulate the most talent?
and, from what many reasonable people have repeatedly said, this team is loaded with talent…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 7:45 PM CST
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talent
well i agree with what aikman said today, just because you have the most talent doesnt make you the best team.
the difference between this team and the early 90s is they had their share of “me” players, but they played well as a group
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on
Dec 28, 2008 7:48 PM CST
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meh
so, last year when they wet 13-3 they didn’t play well as a group>
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 7:50 PM CST
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last year
they didnt have the pacman circus or the wr crap.
also i dont recall last years team doing much in the playoffs do you?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on
Dec 28, 2008 7:51 PM CST
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wow
okay, moving on…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 7:52 PM CST
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Well.....
part of the problem is that the players know that Jerry is really the one in charge. Not the HC. This is a major problem.
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 7:48 PM CST
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didn't do much with BP there.
unless you think BP had no power at all..
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 7:49 PM CST
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other than bring the team back from....
three 5 win seasons and put them back in the relevant column.
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 7:52 PM CST
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and, ddin't Jerry change after that
if i recall correctly, he kinda broke down, did some crying, said things would change, and he went on to hire BP…
BP, quit, Wade was the best hire at that time, he’s continuing to get talent in here, but Jerry has to go…
right.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 7:55 PM CST
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Wade was the best hire?
Wade was the best hire because Jones (in his own special way) had almost given the HC job to JG, then hired him as OC before finding a HC. This is why Jones needs to go as Owner/GM.
I’m fine with Jones owning the team. I’m fine with him having a lot of input in the salary structure. I’m not fine with as a GM doing stupid shit like that. Having to be on camera letting every one know who is the BMOC of the Cowboys. Undermining every HC he’s ever had. These are the problems.
Can you imagine how great the organization could have been over the last 10 years had Jerry not gotten in his own way? I can…….and it’s beautiful.
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 8:04 PM CST
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yes
they needed a 3-4 guy, wade was the best at that. You can’t bring in a newbie when you just overhauled your D from 4-3 to 3-4…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 8:06 PM CST
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Why did they need a 3-4 head coach?
Why not hire a 3-4 defensive coordinator? Particularly since you aren’t going to let your head coach hire the coaches anyway.
by Adam J. Morris on
Dec 28, 2008 8:08 PM CST
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should have just read yours....
agree of course.
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 8:09 PM CST
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He was the only possible HC choice....
that could run the 3-4? Really? Had they not hired an OC already maybe they could have hired an offensive minded HC and brought in a 3-4 DC.
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 8:09 PM CST
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what's wrong with Wade?
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 8:10 PM CST
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He's not running the show......
the inmates are.
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 8:10 PM CST
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Ok....
let me ask you then. What’s right with Wade?
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 8:12 PM CST
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Seriously.....
he’s a cheerleader. He’s a buddy. He’s a great guy. He’s a players coach on a team that needs discipline. Some teams don’t need that because they have an internal structure that takes care of issues in house. We don’t have that situation.
He’s also a great DC.
Now…..I’ve expanded my thought. It’s not shitck so answer my question. What’s right with him?
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 8:18 PM CST
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Dicipline
would you say BP was that type of HC? Because we were one of the most penalized teams with him here…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 8:19 PM CST
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I would say he is exactly that type of HC....
and it has nothing to do with penalties.
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 8:25 PM CST
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and HE still coudn't win a playoff game here
so, if we get Another coach, like BP, and not win a playoff game for the next few years, would you want another coaching change?
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 8:27 PM CST
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I don't just want a coach....
I want a real GM. That’s been my point all along. I want players to have to answer to a coach not Jerry.
I completely agree that injuries killed this season and am not even advocating a coaching change. Continutiy is more important right now.
I just want Jerry to be the owner and stay out of the draft and not make trades. That’s all I’m asking for right now.
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 8:38 PM CST
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well
personnel wise, what’s been your issue with his signings or trades or drafts of late?
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 8:39 PM CST
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Roy Williams....
waste. I’m sure you disagree. It was a waste because he’s not that good. Solid yes but he’s being paid like the best. Not too mention the cost in picks.
I actually think the drafts of late have been fine. I worry that a Q Carter love affair could rear it’s ugly head at any moment though. In that regard I can’t say Jerry has really screwed up lately. In the past he sure did, but not lately.
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 8:46 PM CST
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no it wasn't
how is getting a young really really good WR a waste? You can’t come in during the season and make an impact, check out history….
You are worrying about stuff that you shouldn’t worry about NOW.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 9:35 PM CST
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Roy isn't that good.....
not just this half season. He runs shitty routes (always has) has a work ethic prolblem and gets the drops to often. He probably could be great but he’s not an Irvin that will be driven to be the best. So yeah….it was a waste.
And this is my whole point. That was a Jerry as GM move. Has nothing to do with this loss. Has every thing to do with my point that Jerry is a shitty GM.
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 9:38 PM CST
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what??
that’s just wrong.
JJ is a fine GM, some people just need a whipping boy, and this year it’s Jerry. Whatever…have fun with the constant hate.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 9:40 PM CST
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JJ is a fine GM huh......
Well he’s been real good the last decade.
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 9:45 PM CST
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ever since firing campo
Yes yes and more yes.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 9:46 PM CST
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This year?
I’ve always thought Jerry needed to remove his head from his ass and step down from being GM.
But honestly I’m not a huge cowboys fan and a big reason is my distaste for jerry jones.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on
Dec 29, 2008 6:31 AM CST
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Are you on record...
of pointing out that the RW trade was a bad one when it was made or is this all hindsight?
by Chris Hanes on
Dec 29, 2008 11:37 AM CST
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I'm sorry....
didn’t know I needed to post my thoughts on a Rangers website about a trade for the Cowboys. Was there a fanpost with a poll?
I’ve never thought Roy Williams was all that great. Solid yes, great no. I don’t have a problem with the cowboys landing a solid WR. I have a problem with the cost of the draft picks and signing him to a deal that make him paid like he is an elite WR.
There is also a good possibility that he could have just been signed as a FA in the off season. (that part however is clear hindsight)
by bdavison94 on
Dec 29, 2008 12:41 PM CST
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Wasn’t trying to attack you. Just looking back on the posts at the time of the trade and most all posts were very positive about the trade. There was no talk about how JJ should fire himself as GM, but instead about how JJ did what he had to do to get TO some help on this team. It hasn’t worked out but I really don’t see how that’s JJ’s fault.
by Chris Hanes on
Dec 29, 2008 1:00 PM CST
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Jerry Jones
My problems with him go a lot further back than this season.
I do however respect the fact that money doesn’t seem to be a huge factor in his decision making when it comes to trying to win.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on
Dec 29, 2008 1:08 PM CST
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Sorry for the snippy response....
I’ll say that I thought he’d help more this season that he did.
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Dec 29, 2008 1:12 PM CST
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work ethic
and desire seem to be problems with any UT players over the last decade once they make the pros…VY, Ricky Williams…
by kevinkinsler on
Dec 29, 2008 3:27 PM CST
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I've heard its Mack Brown's fault
He coddles all his players and lets them get away with a lot of stuff. It seems to work great with them for a few years, but that is why most of them bust in the NFL. Can’t really blame Brown either since his job isn’t to make good NFL players and what he does works great in college.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Dec 29, 2008 3:42 PM CST
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good point on brown,
but he still has a responsibility to turn his players into adults, UT football players have only a 50% graduation rate this decade
by kevinkinsler on
Dec 29, 2008 3:46 PM CST
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His only responsibility
is to win games.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Dec 29, 2008 5:27 PM CST
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Amen.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on
Dec 29, 2008 7:29 PM CST
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Of course...
…if Tony Romo holds onto the snap on the FG attempt, we aren’t talking about how Parcells didn’t win a playoff game here.
He came a hell of a lot closer than any Cowboy coach in years.
by Adam J. Morris on
Dec 28, 2008 8:54 PM CST
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no
seattle still had 50s to get in FG range.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 9:32 PM CST
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You still haven't answered my question.
I’d really like to know.
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 8:26 PM CST
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you answered some if it
he’s a good HC, a great defensive mind, a 3-4 beast. What can you do, sometimes things don’t go well…players don’t play well. INJURIES ruined this year…
If Romo doesn’t get hurt, we are in the playoffs and today’s game is meaningless..
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 8:28 PM CST
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If Jerry has brought
in a capable backup QB, the Cowboys would be in the playoffs.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on
Dec 28, 2008 8:31 PM CST
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there you go
now, THAT is something you can call out Jerry on…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 8:32 PM CST
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Jerry’s not going to have it any other way though, is he?
by Chris Hanes on
Dec 28, 2008 8:12 PM CST
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What's wrong with this team?
Why did they end up with the same record as the Dolphins? Why did they end up with a worse record than the Falcons? Maybe Mike Smith would have been a better hire than Wade…
by Adam J. Morris on
Dec 28, 2008 8:11 PM CST
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i WISH we played the same
schedule as Miami did…
ATL in the East would not get into the playoffs.
heh…it’s so simple, isn’t it…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 8:12 PM CST
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You know who else did a head coaching job search that way?
Danny Snyder. When he hired Jim Zorn as a O.C., kicked the tires on some head coach candidates, then ended up making Zorn the head coach.
Jerry and Danny. Two peas in a pod.
by Adam J. Morris on
Dec 28, 2008 8:06 PM CST
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jerry went a different way
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 8:07 PM CST
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Al Davis, anyone?
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on
Dec 29, 2008 3:01 AM CST
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It's irrelevant though
that’s like complaining about Tom Hicks with the Rangers. He isn’t selling the team so it doesn’t matter.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on
Dec 28, 2008 6:39 PM CST
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I was thinking of it
I hate him so much, but like agreen said, he’s not going anywhere.
Gerald Laird: One Man, 5 Scoops.
by Maximilian on
Dec 28, 2008 6:40 PM CST
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that’s ridiculous.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 7:33 PM CST
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No it isn't
Jerry Jones sucks.
by Adam J. Morris on
Dec 28, 2008 7:46 PM CST
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because he won 3 SBs, right?
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 7:48 PM CST
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he played and coached those teams?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on
Dec 28, 2008 7:48 PM CST
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huh?
so, he gets no credit for winning 3 SBs, but all blame for the losses?
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 7:51 PM CST
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didnt blame him for the losses
but i think the team would be better served with a strong gm and a headcoach, much like he had with parcells.
someone who would say hey, maybe its not such a good idea to bring in so many problem players.
and jerry jones thinking he did it all is part of the problem going back to jimmy
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on
Dec 28, 2008 7:53 PM CST
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He wasn't the g.m. the first five seasons
Jimmy Johnson was. Jimmy Johnson got fired, ultimately, because Jerry wanted to be the g.m.
They won a Super Bowl two years later with a clown for a head coach and a clown for a g.m. with Jimmy’s players, but have been largely irrelevant since.
Jerry is a bad g.m., and if he weren’t the owner of the team, he’d have been fired from the job long ago.
by Adam J. Morris on
Dec 28, 2008 7:59 PM CST
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Jimmy
how’d he do in Miami?
(aslo, i didn’t know he was GM at that time, i thought Jerry was…)
Anyways, again, ever since Jerry fired Campo and his realization that HE needs to change (which he absolutely has), what has he done wrong?
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 8:03 PM CST
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Jimmy....
he lost all the coaches that put him over the top. It takes a really special coach to catch lightning in a bottle twice with his coaching staffs. Tough to do.
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 8:12 PM CST
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And he also...
…took over a team that was in salary cap hell, and he never found a QB to replace Marino.
Jimmy wasn’t a miracle worker. He was a damn good coach and g.m. who also caught some breaks (for example, Emmitt Smith sliding to the Cowboys, when they were initially trying to trade up to get James Francis instead of Emmitt).
by Adam J. Morris on
Dec 28, 2008 8:17 PM CST
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was Jimmy GM in name?
just want to get conformation on this (i really had no idea)…
And, again, what has Jerry done wrong since firing Campo?
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 8:18 PM CST
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running a coaching search process.....
backwards for a start.
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 8:19 PM CST
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13-3
i’m sure, after that first season, not too many where complaining, or the fact they started 6-0 to start last year as well…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 8:23 PM CST
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I sure wasn't....
I was fooled into thinking he’d gotten it right. I now think I was wrong.
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 8:32 PM CST
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eh...
i still had concerns that Wade was a pussy
by kevinkinsler on
Dec 29, 2008 3:31 PM CST
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TO hasn't worked out
TO like Manny Ramirez is only worth having if he’s going to put you over the top. I can’t imagine him publicly calling out Garrett and Romo helped this team any.
by Randy Richardson on
Dec 28, 2008 8:22 PM CST
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?
still waiting..
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 9:32 PM CST
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Don't know if he was g.m. in name or not
But Jimmy’s contract gave him complete control over personnel decisions, including the draft. After either year 3 or year 4 of the original 10 year deal, Jerry draft a control that gave him a raise, but removed his absolutely authority on personnel. Jimmy refused to sign that.
by Adam J. Morris on
Dec 28, 2008 9:35 PM CST
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im talking about
what jerry has done wrong as a GM since firing Campo…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 29, 2008 11:27 AM CST
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no doubt that he deserves credit for 3 super bowls
but now, he’s turning into Al Davis Jr
by Randy Richardson on
Dec 28, 2008 7:50 PM CST
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Come into the 21st century.....
Those were Jerry and Jimmy teams. They made a great combo. Bill and Jerry could have. Jerry with a puppet is a recipe for disaster.
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 7:50 PM CST
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so, bill and jerry not staying together is Jerry's fault?
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 7:51 PM CST
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lots of speculation that parcells wasnt getting enough say and didnt want TO there
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on
Dec 28, 2008 7:54 PM CST
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where did you see....
me saying that was Jerry’s fault? I said they made a great combo. Strong HC, Jerry running the biz. That’s they way it should work. Had a chance to work that way with Parcells. Problem was Bill didn’t really want to be a HC anymore.
Now we’re back to the puppets. Wade is a great DC. Might be an ok head coach with the right orginzation. Not this one.
by bdavison94 on
Dec 28, 2008 7:56 PM CST
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In large part..
…I believe it is, because from what I understand, a large part of Bill leaving was because of Jerry’s encroaching back on the personnel side which had been Bill’s.
Same problem Jimmy Johnson had, and which they fought over…whether Jimmy would have full authority on personnel, which Jones wanted to take from him (despite Jimmy having that control in his contract), and ultimately firing him in large part over that.
Jerry has said that once the salary cap was put in place, he didn’t feel he could trust anyone else but himself with control over personnel because of how devastating the implications of a bad move would be on the cap. He’s a crappy g.m. and if he weren’t the owner he’d have been fired long ago.
by Adam J. Morris on
Dec 28, 2008 8:02 PM CST
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i think you got false information on BP quitting.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 8:04 PM CST
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Parcells quitting
i’ve seen / heard that speculation before. i’d wager theres at least some truth to it.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on
Dec 28, 2008 8:06 PM CST
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espn talking heads don't count
if you have a reasonable source, i’m all for listening/reading this…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 28, 2008 8:07 PM CST
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do things like that ever have written sources?
not often
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on
Dec 28, 2008 8:09 PM CST
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Jerry is not a GENERAL MANAGER....
He needs to demote himself and hire someone to take over those duties.
Rocky Mountain Ranger
by Strangers on
Dec 29, 2008 7:25 AM CST
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Jerry as GM
How is putting together a team that is picked by just about everyone to be the Super Bowl favorite not a sign of a good GM?
by Chris Hanes on
Dec 29, 2008 11:40 AM CST
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Oh, I didn't realize he put this team together..
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on
Dec 29, 2008 11:41 AM CST
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"Lack of a vocal leader"
How do you know there isn’t a vocal leader? And even if there isn’t, how do you know that’s a problem?
by nivarsity on
Dec 28, 2008 7:21 PM CST
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Is the current leadership of the team, whatever it is, an asset?
by Athos on
Dec 28, 2008 7:25 PM CST
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What does being "vocal" have to do with the leadership's effectiveness?
Moreover, how does any fan know whether Dallas has vocal leaders? You probably have to play for the team to know that, or be very closely connected to the team, at least.
by nivarsity on
Dec 28, 2008 7:27 PM CST
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Granted. Now please answer my question ...
which had nothing to do with “vocal” leaders.
IS THE CURRENT LEADERSHIP OF THE TEAM, WHATEVER IT IS, AN ASSET?
by Athos on
Dec 28, 2008 7:35 PM CST
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I wasn't addressing that issue, but rather the fallacy of needing a guy who yells a lot to be the leader.
But since you ask, I don’t really think Wade is the problem. They went 22-10 in two years under Wade. In 2006 they went 9-7 under Parcells and had no more discipline (penalties, turnovers, etc) than they did this year. I do think the offensive playcalling was pretty dubious, but I would blame Garrett for that.
by nivarsity on
Dec 28, 2008 9:11 PM CST
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Edit
They’ve gone 22-10 under Wade.
by nivarsity on
Dec 28, 2008 9:14 PM CST
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his first 14 games (or so) account for that great record.
since then he is nothing but a .500 coach….
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on
Dec 28, 2008 10:08 PM CST
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That's cherrypicking.
Did the first 14 games not count as much as the last 18?
by nivarsity on
Dec 29, 2008 2:20 AM CST
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i disagree, not cherrypicking at all
it shows that he’s lost his team. I bet they do nothing but laugh at him when he tries to fire them up.
He wants to be their best friends instead of their coach.
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on
Dec 29, 2008 8:42 AM CST
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Who are the player leaders of this team?
And are they doing a good job of being leaders?
by Athos on
Dec 28, 2008 9:22 PM CST
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No idea
I don’t think it’s possible for media or fans to know who they are, or if their influence matters. I’m of the belief that when a team wins, they have “leaders.” When they don’t, they don’t. It’s mostly media spin and has very little if any impact on the games.
by nivarsity on
Dec 28, 2008 9:29 PM CST
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So this team coming out flat in December ...
year after year has nothing to do with lack of leadership? When is the last time a Dallas team gave an inspired performance in a big December game? If leadership doesn’t matter, then why have they been so consistently horrid late in the season? Just chronic bad luck?
by Athos on
Dec 28, 2008 9:34 PM CST
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Maybe against the Giants a few weeks ago?
And yes, December is a month on the calendar. Winning then is no more or less an issue of leadership than winning in September, October or November. The calendar change is meaningless.
by nivarsity on
Dec 29, 2008 2:21 AM CST
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again I disagree
it’s the last month of the season, the last 4 games determine if one gets to the playoffs, or has momentum going into the playoffs.
When you do bad in December you either a) don’t make the playoffs or b) get your ass kicked in the first round.
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on
Dec 29, 2008 8:44 AM CST
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If they went 0-4
In September, would they have even been in the position for December to matter?
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on
Dec 29, 2008 8:57 AM CST
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no they wouldn't have
and then December football wouldn’t matter..
After rereading this thread I see the argument and I guess I’m arguing the wrong thing, it was late (to me), I had a liter of cheap red wine, etc..
My point was:
Going into December (do or die time) with a chance to get into the playoffs you wish you’d have some people step up….looking out there on that field they looked scared, like they didn’t give a flip. Even before it got out of hand. Philly looked mean, Dallas didn’t.
I am all over the place right now, I don’t even know what I’m arguing anymore….
Need to get my joe…
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on
Dec 29, 2008 9:07 AM CST
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Well my point is
that all the games matter. December games are no more important than those in September. If you lose all your games in September and October than December doesn’t matter.
If you win all your games in Sept. and Oct but lose all your games in Nov and Dec then it doesn’t matter.
Yeah, it’s frustrating to see them suck it up late in the season — but I don’t think it’s any more inexcusable than sucking it up early in the season. JMO though.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on
Dec 29, 2008 9:20 AM CST
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I understand and agree with what you're saying
My point is that when you’re heading into December with a chance to get in, it’s do or die time, you step it up…we have not…that is worrisome….
Do you not agree?
I kind of got this thing off course, my bad.
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on
Dec 29, 2008 9:28 AM CST
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Sure I agree
with that. But it’s also worrisome that they lost to the Rams, played crappy vs the Bengals, and lost to the Cardinals.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on
Dec 29, 2008 9:29 AM CST
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I understand and agree
like I said I got this thing off course only talking about December, that’s the only point of my argument above….to me it goes without question that you have to win in the early months or December ball doesn’t even matter.
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on
Dec 29, 2008 9:32 AM CST
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That is ridiculous.
1) The Giants came into Texas Stadium coasting and played their worst game of the year by far. The defense played very well and the offense did just enough not to lose. It was hardly an inspired victory.
2) Winning in December is the difference between champions and losers. Year after year, the Cowboys have been in position to advance to the post season by the end of November. And then they just take December off. Their December (and January) performances in recent years have cost them division titles and playoff appearances, not to mention any chance to advance on those occasions when they’ve snuck into the playoffs. This team is a late season disaster and any attempt to say that December has not been this team’s Achilles heal for this entire decade is an exercise in severe intellectual dishonesty.
3) Quit dodging the issue of leadership. They either have good leadership or they don’t. Which is it?
by Athos on
Dec 29, 2008 8:53 AM CST
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It's ridiculous to you, because it disproves your point.
1) They whooped the best team in the NFC at home. In December. That’s what happened.
2) No, it is not. Winning is the difference between winners and losers. The calendar is irrelevant. The losses all count the same.
3) I’m not dodging the issue. I’ve said clearly that it is a) unknowable to fans and b) of questionable importance. Leadership is 90% a media story. If you win, you have leadership. If you don’t. you don’t. The real reason teams win and lose is mostly talent, with some luck spliced in.
by nivarsity on
Dec 29, 2008 12:57 PM CST
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Vocal leader
Maybe I should have clarified.
I want a leader on that team who doesn’t look clueless when things go wrong. There’s something to be said when your QB is overriding your call to punt on 4th down because even he doesn’t trust your piss poor play calling. When it’s the 16th game of the season, and your biggest problems are busted coverage on a goal line pass and form tackling? You know you don’t belong in the playoffs.
I want a leader on that team who picks themselves up off the ground when they make a mistake, instead of sulking.
The only vocal leaders on this team are our 3 WR who bobble catchable passes every game, disappear for whole quarters, and a defense that underachieves despite being so talented.
Give me a Ray Lewis on this team; a Strahan, god anything but what’s there now.
You could have told me that they ran the 0-16 Lions out there and I would have believed you.
Gerald Laird: One Man, 5 Scoops.
by Maximilian on
Dec 28, 2008 7:42 PM CST
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i know there isn't a vocal leader bc we effn blew it.
I thought Zach Thomas was going to be a guy who would do so…
the “I” guys outnumber the “team” guys…no I don’t have any proof, just willing to put up all my possessions on it based on this teams performance and ABSOLUTE lack of accountability amongst themselves (which also has to be on the coaches…..all they do is make excuses for their players…makes me want to puke)
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on
Dec 28, 2008 10:06 PM CST
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"no I don’t have any proof"
Then this opinion is pretty much meaningless.
by nivarsity on
Dec 29, 2008 2:22 AM CST
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it's my opinion
not a court case.
Youre right. Wade is a great HEAD coach….he has complete control of this team and gets them to play their hearts out…you win.
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on
Dec 29, 2008 8:45 AM CST
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Well you can't say vacuous statements when arguing and expect them to be given any credibility
Sure, you can and will believe whatever you want.
But if you don’t offer any evidence, facts or data, don’t expect to persuade anyone.
by nivarsity on
Dec 29, 2008 12:58 PM CST
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How about taking some of your own advice?
Your dismissal of this team’s December meltdown habits has no basis in fact, or reason for that matter.
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Dec 29, 2008 4:52 PM CST
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How in the world
on a team with Terrell Owens, Pacman Jones, Tony Romo, et. al. is Cory freakin Proctor the biggest problem on this team?
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Dec 28, 2008 11:43 PM CST
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You just listed Tony Romo
in the same breath as Pacman. Fail.
Those 3 names you mentioned: ALL have done something positive on the field this year. Pacmans’ list is very short of course, and his negatives outweigh the positives. But at least he has the talent on his side. Romo, for all his failure in December the last 2 years, is one of the reasons we’re playing for something at all, and aren’t 5-11 every year. He’s still only 2 years removed from his 1st start as a QB. I believe it took Peyton fucking Manning quite a few years to win it all. You can question T.O.‘s off the field antics all you want, but he’s been an effective receiver every year since he’s been here.
Proctor didn’t have a single good game this year, that I can recall. Flozell and Columbo were flops too, but at least they had their dominant stretches too. I can’t recall too many sweeps involving Proctor pulling to the right side. Probably because that was too much for him to try and remember.
If he’s still on the team next year, never mind the field, I’ll go crazy.
Gerald Laird: One Man, 5 Scoops.
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Dec 29, 2008 1:59 AM CST
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Flozell
needs to stop having so many damn penalties. He can be great if it wasn’t for that.
Proctor is absolutely worthless.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Dec 29, 2008 12:37 PM CST
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He is partially deaf in his right ear
Why no one ever bothered to contemplate moving him to right tackle baffles me profusely.
Nah, noob.
by Brian Thomas on
Dec 29, 2008 12:40 PM CST
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I think
I remember a story from a few years back saying that they did contemplate it, and he was sucking balls trying to play RT for some reason or another.
I could be wrong, but that seems correct in my mind.
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Dec 29, 2008 12:46 PM CST
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He played RT his first 3 years of college
I don’t know how long he’s been hearing impaired, but he was as far back as college.
I guess they’ve figured the false starts were worth the tradeoff.
Nah, noob.
by Brian Thomas on
Dec 29, 2008 4:51 PM CST
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I guess so.
And until the last year or two, that might have been the case.
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Dec 29, 2008 6:22 PM CST
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Even still
Flo will be back next year. I’d like to see him on the right side myself. Him and Davis would chew folks up.
But it must be worth the tradeoff.
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by Chase Irwin on
Dec 29, 2008 7:31 PM CST
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Wade on ESPN News now.
So far, nothing earth shattering.
by Athos on
Dec 28, 2008 6:36 PM CST
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Wow.
He just said they have a lot of good leaders.
Sure you do, Wade. Sure you do.
by Athos on
Dec 28, 2008 6:41 PM CST
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I agree Athos
They have no fire… Football is a game that HAS to be played with passion. Brian Dawkins is living proof of that. Not one cowboy got his team going tonight….
"Shut the F*** up Lloyd!!"- Superagent Mr. Gold
by kman1415 on
Dec 28, 2008 7:51 PM CST
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Just because they weren't singing along to "Fly Eagles Fly"
Doesn’t mean they had no passion.
Is it possible that they just played badly? Is that so hard to fathom?
by nivarsity on
Dec 29, 2008 2:30 AM CST
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No, they definitely played badly.
It was the way they took their beating that was so frustrating. No team that plays with a fire under their ass loses like that in a big game. They rolled over and let a division rival just walk all over them. Spit out your coolaid and face reality.
by Athos on
Dec 29, 2008 8:56 AM CST
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You're the one drinking coolaid
The team clearly has some problems. I just don’t think passion is one of them.
If they had one, the storyline would be about the Cowboys being “cool and under control” when the Eagles were dancing around like madmen.
The issue is, they got outplayed. Passion didn’t score those touchdowns for Philly.
by nivarsity on
Dec 29, 2008 12:59 PM CST
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But lack of passion ...
on the Cowboys’ part certainly didn’t keep them from it.
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Dec 29, 2008 4:55 PM CST
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Roy Williams
Will the Roy Williams (the wideout) be a terrible signing? Does TO come back? I just don’t see Roy Williams as being a big difference maker. He hasn’t shown anything yet!! That to me is going to be a huge problem for the Cowboys going forward.
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Dec 28, 2008 6:39 PM CST
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Romo doesn't throw to WRs so that is an issue too
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on
Dec 28, 2008 6:39 PM CST
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he cuts off routes, he rounds his routes off, he gives up on plays, he did it in DET he does it here.
This is going to be a terrible TERRIBLE deal for us.
THIS IS THE MAIN REASON JJ SHOULD NOT BE GM….
RYin is upset!
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on
Dec 28, 2008 10:03 PM CST
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He got away with it because of his size at UT...
He got away with it in Detroit because he never really needed to produce like Dallas needs him to now.
He’s gotta improve his route-running (as Troy mentioned in the broadcast today), or he will never be the receiver that Dallas is envisioning.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on
Dec 29, 2008 3:05 AM CST
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I forgot to mention UT, all my friends who went there curse Roy....
to nivarsity, if Roy’s been in the league for however long he’s been in the league and Jerry gives up a 1st and 3rd, then signs him to a long term deal and doing all this without noticing he’s a terrible route runner AND lazy…then more proof JJ needs to get off the GM duties.
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on
Dec 29, 2008 8:49 AM CST
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I'm not really sold on Roy either
But if we assume the team needs a WR more than it needs other positional help, then Roy in 2009 will almost certainly be better than a first-round WR picked in 2009. Since the team’s in win-now mode, I think the trade is still pretty justifiable. If Roy is terrible next year too, then obviously that’s no longer the case.
by nivarsity on
Dec 29, 2008 1:01 PM CST
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Is he better than a....
1st, 3rd, and a 7th? And (possibly in the future) taking up needed cap space?
by bdavison94 on
Dec 29, 2008 1:14 PM CST
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lies.
quit listening’ to the ESPN talking heads.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 29, 2008 8:52 AM CST
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lies?
my eyes don’t lie dude…I don’t listen to the game with volume….joe buck makes me want to vomit….I don’t watch ESPN either….I have to watch reruns of House and various reality shows, I have no scene control and I’m not afraid to admit it.
I see your name, I understand your angle :)
Freddie King rules faces.
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Dec 29, 2008 8:56 AM CST
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I'm thinking we need
10 more Jason Wittens on offense.
Gerald Laird: One Man, 5 Scoops.
by Maximilian on
Dec 28, 2008 6:41 PM CST
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Interesting thread — but I wouldn’t elevate Tony to that level. After all, Jake managed to win a playoff game in Texas Stadium.
by rpv311 on
Dec 28, 2008 6:42 PM CST
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Good stuff.
It's a crazy messed-up world... It's a doggy-dogg world...
by oc on
Dec 28, 2008 8:48 PM CST
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Owens saying some class act things in his press conf.
He’s saying all the right things. Impressive.
by Athos on
Dec 28, 2008 6:43 PM CST
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Yeah, real classy...
Asking the reporter to ask the question again and then picking the microphone up and holding towards the reporter which the reporter then repeated that the West Coast Offense would not happen as long as Jason Garrett is here. It was obvious he was saying there that he would like to see Jason Garrett gone.
Right or wrong, that’s CLASSLESS.
by Chris Hanes on
Dec 28, 2008 8:04 PM CST
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Was that the question that was asked?
I couldn’t understand it even after he held the microphone up.
by Athos on
Dec 28, 2008 9:23 PM CST
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Contract
Of course he’s classy now…..He does not want to get cut. Until he does it in the season I do not believe him.
by peachygbc_1 on
Dec 28, 2008 6:45 PM CST
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Owens
I don’t think he can be cut — I think he’s a free agent.
by Adam J. Morris on
Dec 28, 2008 7:01 PM CST
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WTF
???? Free Agent? He signed a huge deal last offseason…..
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by red shoe ranger on
Dec 28, 2008 7:13 PM CST
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He's not a free agent
He signed an extension last year, 4 years 34m.
by nivarsity on
Dec 28, 2008 7:22 PM CST
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how front in loaded was it
what do we owe him the rest of the way?
to be honest, I’d rather have T.O. than that piece of garbage R-Dubs
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on
Dec 28, 2008 10:13 PM CST
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I'd rather have TO than almost any receiver in the NFL
So if that’s meant as an insult…try again.
by nivarsity on
Dec 29, 2008 2:31 AM CST
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WR's
I’d take many receivers over TO.
larry fitzgerald, calvin johnson, andre johnson, steve smith.
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by rentz on
Dec 29, 2008 6:37 AM CST
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then you wouldn't be too bright.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 29, 2008 8:53 AM CST
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which would make me more like you
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on
Dec 29, 2008 9:00 AM CST
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Um, taking Andre Johnson over TO wouldn't be bright?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on
Dec 29, 2008 10:34 AM CST
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I'd take those guys over TO too
Of course, you just listed the four best receivers in the NFL, arguably.
If TO is fifth, that’s hardly an insult.
by nivarsity on
Dec 29, 2008 1:02 PM CST
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I hate the Cowboys
and I’m very happy that Tony Romo is the next Jake Plummer. I like the comparison.
And I’ll be clear – I hate the Cowboys for one reason: Jerry Jones. And until he dies or sells the team, I will cheer for them to lose. And days like today make me happy.
by JBImaknee on
Dec 28, 2008 6:45 PM CST
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if that's the case
then I don’t need you cheering for them after Jones anyways.
by kevinkinsler on
Dec 29, 2008 3:52 PM CST
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Romo would be better
if the Cowboys had a coach and a GM with the balls and respect of the team to tell Romo to cut down on the playground shit and manage a football game.
by Randy Richardson on
Dec 28, 2008 6:47 PM CST
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Romo
Would also be better if he had an owner who wasn’t threatened by hiring a head coach and GM with the balls and respect of the team to tell Romo to cut down on the playground shit and manage a football game.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
by RCCook on
Dec 28, 2008 6:53 PM CST
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well, considering
the owner is the GM, I thought I pretty well indicted him in my comment.
by Randy Richardson on
Dec 28, 2008 6:54 PM CST
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I hate the Cowboys
but I don’t think Romo is the problem. He has issues, sure, but he is not the main problem. I also hate the ’girls b/c of Jones like JB. I do think Matt Schaub, who is the quarterback of the number 3 rated offense by the way, does have a higher ceiling, especially if he can stay healthy. I watch most of their games, living in Longview and all, but I think the lack of chemistry is the main issue with the Cowboys. Hope this helps.
by Triple347 on
Dec 28, 2008 6:49 PM CST
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Cowboys
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
by lonestarJon on
Dec 28, 2008 6:51 PM CST
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Heh
Yah, that was a nice LSB 2.0 FAIL.
Anyway, what I meant to say…
Cowboys = Meh… and therefore, football in general = meh.
I need to go to college so I can find a stake in college football… that’s where the real action’s at.
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
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Dec 28, 2008 6:54 PM CST
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+1
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on
Dec 29, 2008 3:07 AM CST
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Somebody snatch that hat off of Romo's head.
Jesus.
by Athos on
Dec 28, 2008 6:55 PM CST
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Actually
Jesus will have His say with Romo and the rest of us as well… but I doubt a hat will be an issue
by bstair on
Dec 28, 2008 7:01 PM CST
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I wouldn't be so sure about that.
It is an awful hat on general principles, but it looks exceptionally ridiculous when it is flaunted by a guy that turns to jelly every December.
by Athos on
Dec 28, 2008 7:03 PM CST
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atleast he didn't have it turned around backwards
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on
Dec 28, 2008 10:15 PM CST
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oh that hat.....
yeah….terrible
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on
Dec 28, 2008 10:16 PM CST
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lol
Can’t see the hat… sure i will tonigt whne I listen to Hansen rant… should be a great sports special
by bstair on
Dec 28, 2008 7:11 PM CST
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OT: playoffs
is it possible that all four wildcard teams will be road favorites?
Indy will be favored over SD/Den
Philly should be a favorite over Minn
Atlanta over Arizona
Baltimore over Miami
by Randy Richardson on
Dec 28, 2008 7:13 PM CST
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NFC 2nd round
could be Phil at NYG and Atlanta at Carolina.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on
Dec 28, 2008 7:22 PM CST
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Is that Tom Brady?
WTF?
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
by Conjunction on
Dec 28, 2008 7:57 PM CST
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Win multiple Super Bowls ...
and you’re allowed to look silly. Be a constant flop in big games, and you look like an asshole trying to be cute.
by Athos on
Dec 28, 2008 9:24 PM CST
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Constant flop in big games
Ugh.
Romo is the A-Rod of the NFL. This criticism is laughable.
I guess he’s a constant flop in big games…if you ignore the Giants game two weeks ago, the playoff game against Seattle, the comeback win over the Giants in 2007, or the other big games in which he’s played well.
by nivarsity on
Dec 29, 2008 2:40 AM CST
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How's he done in the playoffs ...
or in December when division titles and playoff berths are on the line?
Keep apologizing, buddy.
by Athos on
Dec 29, 2008 8:58 AM CST
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You'd have said the same thing about Peyton Manning a few years back
It’s not an issue of being clutch.
Romo is obviously a very good QB. He’s hardly perfect and he will need to improve. But he isn’t the problem.
by nivarsity on
Dec 29, 2008 1:04 PM CST
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Actually, you're quite wrong.
Say whatever you want to about Peyton’s early years, you saw nothing but determination in his eyes. You don’t see that in Romo. But maybe, just maybe, after that utter humiliation and the cumulative effect of this December, he’ll finally decide he wants to focus and be a leader. If that happens, he’ll be a Hall of Famer. If it doesn’t, he’ll be lucky to be Danny White.
by Athos on
Dec 29, 2008 4:59 PM CST
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ARod may go down as a Top 5 player of all time.
Romo….come on, let’s not get ridiculous.
Mass X Acceleration = Force
by SteveP on
Dec 29, 2008 9:59 PM CST
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Injuries are to blame
What did you expect with Bobby Carpenter in street clothes?
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by red shoe ranger on
Dec 28, 2008 7:16 PM CST
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Not yet. Romo needs a cool nickname first.
And really its only his 2nd season. And I think once TO is gone, and he should be, that will take a lot of unnecessary pressure off him. Romo will be fine, the team just needs a head coach that can light a fire under their asses. And i dont think Garrett is the answer.
by Chow Time on
Dec 28, 2008 7:23 PM CST
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Romo is NOT the problem
The supporting cast here is highly, highly overrated. TO is no longer even an average #1 receiver. The offensive line is less mobile than a posse of rhinos. MB3 is not the same player he was last year. Roy E is hurt, bored, or retarded.
Can this be fixed? Sure. The RB depth here is terrific, this team still has plenty of draft picks albeit no #1, Roy could get himself in check. The biggest problem I see is motivation: I like Wade as a coordinator but he needs to go.
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
by Conjunction on
Dec 28, 2008 8:01 PM CST
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MB3 is a stud
it was a shame to see him go down….all over a pinkie toe…I know it doesn’t sound bad, but that’s a weight bearing phalange holmes.
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on
Dec 29, 2008 8:54 AM CST
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he was on pace
for 1200 yards at the time of his injury
by kevinkinsler on
Dec 29, 2008 3:56 PM CST
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Bob Stoops
I remember listening to Dale Hansen awhile back about Jerry Jones pursuing Bob Stoops. Would he be the right fit to turn it around?
by Monkey Brain on
Dec 28, 2008 8:06 PM CST
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Stoops
I thought there might be mutual interest two years ago. With the Bomar thing, the timing seemed right for Stoops to consider going to the pros where 19yo kids taking illegal money can’t mess with your program.
by Randy Richardson on
Dec 28, 2008 8:16 PM CST
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I will take the hardline stance
Stoops is going no where but to Miami on Jan. 8. Maybe Mack Brown would be a good fit for the Cowboys.
Miami bound...
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Dec 28, 2008 8:48 PM CST
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Mack Brown?
No, thank you.
Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. 45 given up in the 1st quarter. Wow. But still we're better than Washington! Oh and, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-10 baby!
by sprite on
Dec 28, 2008 8:51 PM CST
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You know I wasn't serious
about Mack Brown right?
Miami bound...
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Dec 28, 2008 8:54 PM CST
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Here's a New Years' Resolution for you:
Don’t listen to Hansen.
It's a crazy messed-up world... It's a doggy-dogg world...
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Dec 28, 2008 8:52 PM CST
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Stoops
Why wouldn’t Stoops leave OU for Dallas. He would be going to the most historic NFL team. He’s the perfect fit on paper. Also, Jerry can money whip him.
by Monkey Brain on
Dec 28, 2008 8:56 PM CST
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It worked in the past with Johnson
by Monkey Brain on
Dec 28, 2008 9:01 PM CST
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And with
Pete Carroll, Steve Spurrier, Nick Saban, etc.
Jimmy was an outlier.
by nivarsity on
Dec 28, 2008 9:06 PM CST
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Carroll
had been an NFL assistant for the previous 10 years before being hired as an NFL head coach.
by Randy Richardson on
Dec 28, 2008 9:10 PM CST
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That's true.
I was thinking of it more as: the skill sets don’t overlap. He’s a great college coach but was a horrible pro coach.
by nivarsity on
Dec 28, 2008 9:12 PM CST
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If I were an NFL GM,
I wouldn’t rule out considering a college coach just because of recent failures.
by Randy Richardson on
Dec 28, 2008 9:16 PM CST
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I might not rule it out entirely
But I would be much more inclined to go with a coach that has pro experience. College coaching is more about recruiting, and less about scheming, play calling, ego management, etc. Shoot, I could look good calling plays if I coached USC.
by nivarsity on
Dec 28, 2008 9:30 PM CST
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no doubt
but a good nfl coordinator doesn’t translate into being a good head coach either. There’s no crystal ball.
by Randy Richardson on
Dec 28, 2008 9:34 PM CST
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Obviously also true
I’m just saying, all else equal, go with the guy with pro experience. It’s not a set in stone rule, though.
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Dec 29, 2008 2:23 AM CST
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