Tuesday a.m. things
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 30, 2008 8:03 AM CST
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PrintWell, the minor league coaching staff was named yesterday, and we have stories from Richard Durrett and T.R. Sullivan.
Durrett also has a brief Q&A with Steve Buechele up, about become the Bakersfield manager.
That's about it.
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Scot Little
and still no mention of where he went. I was under the impression that the Rangers liked him.
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Am I remembering correctly he posts here?
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Dec 30, 2008 8:21 AM CST up reply actions
No
I thought it was NoNameOnCard, but I realized way after the fact that it was a joke and it’s not Little. Ha.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 30, 2008 8:41 AM CST up reply actions
Thought it was him too, but I don’t think it was a joke?
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Dec 30, 2008 8:54 AM CST up reply actions
yeah I had the same problem
http://www.lonestarball.com/2008/12/17/695640/wednesday-a-m-stuff#10800641
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 30, 2008 9:01 AM CST up reply actions
NoName
is this guy
http://www.texasleaguers.com/about-the-author/
Good site, check it out.
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Hooray for plugs!
Thanks, t ball.
I’m definitely not Scott Little, but I have met him.
Neftali Feliz is not a swimmer.
by NoNameOnCard on Dec 30, 2008 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Scott Little, No Name on Card, and T ball...
Who are three people who have never been in my kitchen?
I've been in his kitchen
But he won’t realize it until he has to hunt for the missing oatmeal and prune juice ………..
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Dec 30, 2008 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
why is that good?
does he have any coaching experience.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
I think the implication is
That it’s good for Boo to get an opportunity within the system and back out in a fresh air office.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Dec 30, 2008 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
i always like him but
i dunno what he’s been doing since he left baseball as a player.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
These are the dog days of winter
I am getting seriously tired of no Rangers news. Come on, somebody do something
no joke
the rangers are stringing us along like always.
they won’t sign sheets or get buchholz or probably do anything of significance. and will soon waste all the young talent in our farm system. happy new year!
Wait 'til the year after next
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Dec 31, 2008 12:14 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
How do you propose
we get Buchholz?
"Losers assemble in little groups and bitch about the coaches and the system and other players in other little groups. Winners assemble as a team."
- Bill Parcells
Not sure if this was posted
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AkW1905SUuYlJJIvwvQlC6oRvLYF?slug=jp-hsdrangers122908&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
That article
gave me my new sig
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 30, 2008 8:42 AM CST up reply actions
"Ever the hypodermic needle in the Rangers’ soda."
That’s a new one on me. And this quote:
Anyway, the lesson is obvious: waiting on prospects – especially ones who pitch – is a backward way of approaching success.
seems to forget what Tampa did last year. Building from within is a much better strategy than just signing a bunch of aging free agents, and of course they’ll need to sign and trade for some pieces to fill out the picture. Other than that it’s a nice article, and he does a good job in the first paragraph of saying where the team is right now on the contention curve.
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A question for the DMN newsletter?
Maybe we should ask Evan — if he still has his weekly/monthly (in offseason) Rangers newsletter. (DMN sucks — glad they can devote so many resources to the ’Boys!!)
On the DMN website
check out the Most Read, Most Commented, Most Emailed, etc. area and tell me why they shouldn’t have lots of Cowboys coverage.
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Both deserve coverage...
Not arguing that the Cowboys don’t deserve coverage, but the DMN seems to be forgetting that the Rangers are a Major League Baseball team — a newspaper of its size should be providing its own coverage, not outsourcing that to the competitor from down the highway …
Well, it hasn't helped our perception
that this has been an especially slow offseason. If the Rangers pull of a big trade or sign someone like Sheets it will be covered prominently.
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Sure, but ...
A little more coverage by the DMN might give us a bit more perspective on what EXACTLY is brewing at corporate office in RBiA … But you’re right we’ll know all this by the time the players report in mid-Feb…
Well now that it was leaked that Buchholz is indeed
on the market, JD shouldn’t settle for anything less.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
I missed that
where was it leaked? Thanks…
by Michael Cave on Dec 30, 2008 9:37 AM CST up reply actions
here
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/12/29/heyman.verducci.hanley.red.sox/index.html
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
True
But Boston has a much bigger need at C than at SS
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
They were offering Buchholz and ellsbury
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
and?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Dunno
The Marlins were said to be most interested in a center fielder, and discussions apparently centered on Boston’s promising youngster Jacoby Ellsbury, talented pitching prospect Clay Buchholz and others in a package for Ramirez, who began in Boston’s organization.
So Buchholz, Ellsbury and Masterson?
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
Newberg Suspects...
…Jed Lowrie and Lars Anderson
by FuturePants on Dec 30, 2008 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah probably
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
Yow
That makes me wonder whether Florida shouldn’t have done the trade.
Then again, they should feel pretty good about competing in 2009.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Dec 30, 2008 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
Well who knows what the actual offer was.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Right
But those four guys sounds within contemplation, and if you are Florida you better REALLY want Ramirez… That’s a lot to pass up.
by FuturePants on Dec 30, 2008 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
I doubt the offer would include all three of Ellsbury, Buccholz, and Anderson.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Really?
For Hanley Ramirez?
How do you think JE/CB/LA compares to the five Texas got for Teixeira and Mahay?
by Jamey Newberg on Dec 30, 2008 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
and then throw in
Ramirez’s reasonable contract with him under control until 2014. He should get a return greater than the package TX got for Tex.
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I guess it would..
Just seems so steep, I think those 3 would have to be considered a better package than what we got.. Obviously Feliz and Andrus have taken pretty big steps foward over the last year, making that package look so incredible now.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
That's sorta my point.
Everyone agrees Texas made out huge for Teixeira. And there’s no question Hanley has more value than Tex.
by Jamey Newberg on Dec 30, 2008 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
those guys
collectively blow the Teixeira package (at that time) out of the water.
Feliz, the prize in the deal, had just a few stateside innings at the time and had battled control problems. He was certainly no Clay Buchholz. Feliz and Harrison combined did not have nearly the value of Buccholz. Salty could compare with Ellsbury, a solid up the middle position player prospect with a solid but not great debut. And Lars Anderson is a top 20 prospect right now, and is certainly more valuable than Andrus was at the time of the trade, when he was hitting in the .230s at Myrtle Beach. At the time, it seems like people had him pegged as a defensive specialist with a questionable bat, and many people said his prospect status was tied mostly to his age. Beau Jones is in there, but so is Mahay, so we’ll let them cancel out, but in reality Mahay was worth more than Jones.
That was a long winded way of saying JE/CB/LA, three ML ready or near ready prospects of which two are probably primed for above average (and potentially all-star) careers and the third (Ellsbury) should be a solid ML starter for the next 10-12 years.
The subsequent rise of Andrus and Feliz upon entering our system has skewed history in some people’s eyes.
Exactly
Its all about timing. Feliz and Andrus are arguably the two prizes in the Teixeira deal for us. In another year or two who knows they could be comparable to Anderson and Bucholz right now. But right now they aren’t because neither will see the big leagues before September at the earliest. Basically if we had to trade Teixeira right now do you think we could get the exact same package that we got from Atlanta? I highly doubt it
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
If I'm Florida
I don’t know if I even make that deal.
Hanley Ramirez is one of the best young players in the game. His trade value, considering his contract situation, is probably higher than anyone in baseball’s right now. Ellsbury is an okay player, but not someone to build a trade around. Basically they’d be betting that either Buchholz or Anderson would get to approach Ramirez’s value. Since neither of them is a Longoria or Price level prospect, it a less than 50% chance that either will approach Ramirez’s value. No way I make that deal.
The only way Florida should trade Hanley Ramirez – a guy who’ll be an MVP candidate for years to come – is if they get back Pedroia or Youklis, plus Buchholz and an Ellsbury type player.
I see the way it is....
We will give Texas trash, but if Florida comes calling….
Granted Salty is no where in the same league as Hanley Ramirez
so much for Boston being in love with Bucholz and that he is untouchable….load of b.s. from Gammons.
by death of the cool on Dec 30, 2008 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
Untouchable
I think it’s a loose term, I mean we may hear that feliz is untouchable but if someone came along and dangled a player like ramierez he probably wouldn’t be so untouchable.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Yes
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by Brett Perryman on Dec 30, 2008 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
and that's even if
Salty reaches his potential, Ramirez would still be at least a few >>>>, but right now it’s more like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
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Amazing that Hanley
was signed for $20k.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 30, 2008 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
Z....
Would you mind emailing me? I sent you an email yesterday but wonder if I have an outdated email address for you.
I’m at jnewberg@vimolaw.com. Thanks.
by Jamey Newberg on Dec 30, 2008 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
FYP
isn’t it vilolaw.com?
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
- The Huntressatron
by inactive lsb user on Dec 30, 2008 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
lol
Nice.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
We just changed firm names....
…from Vincent & Moyé to Vincent Lopez Serafino Jenevein, because Eric Moyé won re-election to the bench.
by Jamey Newberg on Dec 30, 2008 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
I thought the Rangers were moving their Class A affiliation to North Carolina or something
Is that for 2010 then? That would be good for me since I’m within driving distance of Bakersfield and thus I could go catch a game or two this summer.
Low A
Their Low A team is moving from Clinton to Hickory, NC. The High A team is still in Bakersfield for now
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
From Neyer's Chat Today...
George (NJ): I know the Sox checked in on Hanley and were turned down (nice try though) but what ever came of their discussions with Texas for Michael Young? Could the Sox land Young and Salty or Teagarden for a package that does not include Ellsbury and Bucholz? Would such a move put them back above the Yankees & Rays in the AL East?
Rob Neyer: There are two h’s in Buchholz. Just want to mention that first. As for Young, I’m not convinced he’ll be any better than Jed Lowrie in two or three years.
Ouch.
Help me someone?
I’m looking for a link to Hindman’s piece re: how free agency never really works…it was pretty extensive….I’m in need of some ammo against my whiny friends. He posted in the DMN blog a couple months ago…I have been searching that sob and cannot find it!
Thanks in advance.
Freddie King rules faces.
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 30, 2008 4:08 PM CST reply actions
Oooops...
Thanks Mav
Freddie King rules faces.
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 30, 2008 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
That's great stuff by MJH
Hadn’t seen it before.
As I’ve mentioned, the Girl is Red Sox fan. I keep going on and on about the Rangers system and she gets annoyed and mentions that the Rangers sucked last year and almost every year. I sent the Red Sox info to her so that should put things into perspective.
Nothing pithy here. Please move long.
Dewey just made a fanpost comparing the Rangers to A's:
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2008/12/30/705219/h2h-rangers-vs-athletics
Your 2010 Texas Rangers starting shortstop....(see pic)
darn... sizing up the Rangers and A's top prospects*
Your 2010 Texas Rangers starting shortstop....(see pic)
by Kinslerhomer on Dec 30, 2008 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
Marcus lemon
The future left fielder of this team!! What do you say Dirka!
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
Nay.
He won’t hit enough to play regularly anywhere but the MIF.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Dec 30, 2008 6:01 PM CST up reply actions
ughh
Whittleman is really the best we got for 3B? that just makes me sad.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
How sad is it that we won that matchup?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Top Ten Erroneous sports columns of 2008
Hey – there’s JJT.
http://www.realclearsports.com/lists/top_10_erroneous_columns/erroneous_intro.html
Nothing pithy here. Please move long.
Ranger news
Derrick Turnbow
Along with the Pirates, the Marlins are one of three finalists for free agent Derrick Turnbow.
The Giants and Rangers are a couple of the possibilities to be the other finalist. Turnbow should make his decision soon.
http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2973
Interesting in a "meh" kind of way.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Dec 30, 2008 6:02 PM CST up reply actions
A better way to put it might be
the Angels are closer to the rest of the west than people think.
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I wonder how it would look with Sheets
and Hoffman, although that’s unlikely.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 30, 2008 6:22 PM CST up reply actions
whoops, accidentally posted way too early
That is what I was saying in one of these posts a little while ago. The Angels are a much weaker team than last year with the loss of Tex and K-Rod and they weren’t too good to begin with. With the Rangers young and inexperienced squad, a breakout year from one of our pitchers could end up being the difference maker in the Rangers favor.
And if we got Sheets and Hoffman, things would look a ton better for the Rangers.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Do you think that those two pitchers would make us better than them?
Assuming they only add Fuentes and a league average starter to their roster.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 30, 2008 6:36 PM CST up reply actions
I could see it happening
The offense is still just as good as last years. The defense improves through getting rid of the 3B we had playing for us last year, Davis at 1st, and Kinsler playing a bit better. That’s still not a great defense, but its not going to be as pitiful as last year. Then the pitching just depends on some health issues. How bad is Sheets’ back? CJ and Hurley should be healthy and Millwood/Padilla are a bit more motivated this year. All in all, they just can’t be any worse than last year and with a defense that is at least slightly more competent and a better bullpen, it should be better.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Is it too much to ask for
Sheets, Buchholz, Hoffman, and Crede all in one offseason? It is unlikely, but possible if what I read about Nolan’s willingness to improve the 2009 club is true.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 30, 2008 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
That would scare the hell out of Arte Moreno if it did happen lol
and make him bid for Ramirez to keep up with it.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 30, 2008 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
Mets offer Lowe
3 years at 36 million. Definitley not close to 5 years 90 million that Boras thinks he’s worth.
Wonder where that puts Sheets?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/31/sports/baseball/31mets.html
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