A trade!

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 30, 2008 7:37 PM CST Comment 62 comments

There's been a trade!

Well, not one involving a Ranger, or any players the Rangers have been linked to, but nevertheless...

Luis Vizcaino is going from Colorado to the Cubs for Jason Marquis.

There you go.

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riveting.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Dec 30, 2008 7:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Strangely ...

I was less bored without this news.

by Athos on Dec 30, 2008 7:45 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

You got me excited there with the title

until I read the second sentence.

by coolrangersfan on Dec 30, 2008 7:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Thanks a lot

jabroni.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 30, 2008 7:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

You suck

My stomach jumped with excitement. ugh.

by texaschief on Dec 30, 2008 7:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

the dominoes are starting to fall

this offseason is about to get crazy. JD is just waiting for the right moment to strike like a snake and send Willie Erye to the Brewers for a PTBNL and if we’re lucky, some cash.

by Chow Time on Dec 30, 2008 8:00 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

this was actually pretty funny.

by texaschief on Dec 30, 2008 9:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

maybe six seasons ago

i would care about a trade involving Jason Marquis!

by mrichardson70 on Dec 30, 2008 8:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

who did we trade Luis for? i forgot

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Dec 30, 2008 8:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

we traded away Duchscherer to get Vizcaino, then flipped him a few days later for Jesus Pena.

Looking back, that little series of moves didn’t exactly turn out to be sterling.

"I see their [Angels] rotation as John Lackey and a bunch of decent starters." - AJM

by tricer on Dec 30, 2008 9:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That’s why it’s better to not look back.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Dec 30, 2008 9:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i knew there was a reason i forgot

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Dec 31, 2008 12:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

RANDOM FUNNY PIC HIJACK!!!

"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."

by lonestarJon on Dec 30, 2008 8:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

lol

Gerald Laird: One Man, 5 Scoops.

by Maximilian on Dec 30, 2008 9:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Totally relevant opinion on riveting piece of news: Jason Marquis

could hit 20 homers at Coors Field.

by jonthefon on Dec 30, 2008 8:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

The Rockies have some decent depth at SP:

Jeff Francis, Aaron Cook, Ubaldo Jimenez, Greg Smith, Jason Marquis, Greg Reynolds, Franklin Morales, etc. Now Greg Smith and Jason Marquis might not be that great, but they still have the makings of a nice rotation. I’d say they got a pretty good chance to win the NL West next season.

by Stephen Rushin on Dec 30, 2008 8:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

They really need to get Tulo healthy and back to his epic '07 level of production for that to be even a little bit possible, though.

Losing him crushed them last year, imo.

And are they planning on using Ian Stewart at 2b? Seems like he’s not horrible there and they need to get his bat in the lineup somehow if they can’t find a sucker to take Atkins off their hands.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

The Perfect X-Mas Gift For Any True Rangers Fan

by thedirkatron on Dec 30, 2008 8:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think they can be pretty competitive

If Francis and/or Tulo comes back healthy and productive. If they can get those two guys back healthy, I see little reason why they couldn’t have a legit shot in the NL West.

Their rotation was -1.8 pitching runs above average (pRAA) last year, but I think a healthy Francis and a Smith and Marquis at the back of the rotation will give them an above average rotation.

In 2008, Cook and Jimenez had tRA+s of 112 and 117. Although Francis posted a 96 tRA+ in an injury shortened 2008, he averaged a 115 over the previous two seasons. The average #2 starter posts a tRA+ of 112, so I’d say they could potentially have three really good starters.

Smith and Marquis aren’t great, but as #4 and #5 starters, they are pretty serviceable. Marquis and Smith had tRA+s of 99 and 90 last year, which make them above average #4/5 starters. Amazingly, even de la Rosa had a tRA+ of 112 last season, although that probably isn’t sustainable. They also have some talented youngsters in Morales and Reynolds.

In terms of offense, they were 8.2 bRAA, so they were an okay hitting team. Losing Holliday will hurt, but I think getting back Tulo healthy and a full season from Ian Stewart could really help. Also, Dexter Fowler is incredibly talented and can eventually make up for some production in the OF (although maybe not next season). Carlos Gonzalez is also uncertain, but I think he can do some good things in Coors and with a change in scenary. Overall, I think they can stay an average to above average offensive team.

And their bullpen was pretty decent last year, at 28.5 runs above average. They picked up Huston Street and lost Fuentes. That is a pretty even swap.

They definitely have a lot of question marks even outside of Tulo and Francis, like Manny Corpas who was pretty uneven last year. But with a healthy Tulo and improving youngsters like Stewart, Fowler, and Gonzalez, I think they might be able to replace Holliday’s offensive production, and their rotation is better. I guess I might have over spoke when I said that Colorado has a good chance to win the division, but the NL West is pretty weak overall and if healthy I think you can make just as strong of an argument for Colorado as you could for Arizona or LA.

by Stephen Rushin on Dec 30, 2008 10:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Jorge de la Rosa!

by Brett Perryman on Dec 31, 2008 12:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

It's ON!

Up next…

Salty for Buckholtz and a PTBNL!

Oh the thrills of 2008. What an amazing year all around.

by 3Bagger on Dec 30, 2008 8:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Who is Buckholtz?

by LiamP on Dec 30, 2008 8:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm assuming it's the unholy union of Joe Buck and Lou Holtz.

Scary.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

The Perfect X-Mas Gift For Any True Rangers Fan

by thedirkatron on Dec 30, 2008 8:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Anal leakage

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Dec 30, 2008 9:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Comedy is not pretty

Comedy benefits from subtlety. Had I spelled his name correctly (and not added PTBNL, which I thought was sorta funny) then my reply would simply be straight analysis (which it was not).

My attempt at humor has failed. And the meat heads below pounced. What else is new.

by 3Bagger on Dec 31, 2008 5:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

OK, I give up Shecky

What was supposed to be hilarious about you intentionally spelling his name that way?

Nah, noob.

by Brian Thomas on Dec 31, 2008 8:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The Shecky

reference was much funnier than his attempt.

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by t ball on Dec 31, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Well if Jason Marquis and his 9.875mm salary for '09 can be dumped, that bodes well for us in the unlikely event we try to dump Padzilla and/or Millwood to make a run at Sheets.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

The Perfect X-Mas Gift For Any True Rangers Fan

by thedirkatron on Dec 30, 2008 8:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

This is a very good point

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Dec 31, 2008 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree.

Maybe we can ship one of those two pitchers to the Braves since they have been unsuccessful in their attempts to further improve their rotation (after acquiring only Vazquez so far).

by coolrangersfan on Dec 31, 2008 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

newbie.

Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012

by Longhorn on Dec 30, 2008 9:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Nah

Nah, noob.

by Brian Thomas on Dec 31, 2008 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

x

Look at those fucking Mavericks!

by brettgardner on Dec 30, 2008 9:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

fun game.

by tyd3311 on Dec 30, 2008 9:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No.

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by t ball on Dec 30, 2008 9:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

We don't want you anyway.

by brettgardner on Dec 30, 2008 9:51 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs

That's for the better

my knowledge of basketball stops at the ball must go in the basket.

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by t ball on Dec 30, 2008 11:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

well dont learn about the refs

thats what the NBA does and it works for them

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Dec 31, 2008 12:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Why do you have

The lamest agenda?

by brettgardner on Dec 31, 2008 12:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

the minute sports fans in the US realize

that leagues with unlimited power with absolutely no governance is total poison to everything the actual sports stand for.

the NBA doesnt make basketball, it doesnt represent actually anything decent or pure about the game other than the talent. luckily we wont have to worry about that soon with the salary cap and all.

same for football. NFL thinks they are football. unfortunately, their interest isnt for whats best for the game. the refs are terrible and the game crawls at a snails place after all the ads and penalties.

these leagues are literally poisoning their own sports

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Dec 31, 2008 12:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Right.

And you know best, obviously. You follow the most boring exercise in time-waste this country knows—a sport that would suck dick to get a whiff of the NFL’s ass when it comes to advertising in America.

You represent the vilest scum in sports: the Soccer Elite. He’s the guy who thinks that just because he follows a sport that is not popular here (let’s be honest: it’s poison), but very popular in faraway lands (read: cool places), he is above the teeming masses who enjoy the most popular sports. He probably also listens to Connor Oberst and has the balls to mention him in the same sentence as Dylan.

I find it very humorous that a guy with presumably no experience in managing a multi-billion dollar corporation has no problem lecturing leagues that make money hand over fist while putting out a consistently good product how they should be run.

Go back to Russia, ya commie bastard.

by brettgardner on Dec 31, 2008 12:41 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs

This may be my favorite post ever

I … love … you

by robert_d_wilfong on Dec 31, 2008 12:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

first 2 sports on earth i played:

soccer and baseball…

those are the last 2 sports i follow.

Interesting Fact:

Pro Sports in the USA are SOCIALIST. everything is equal due to a cap, the poor performing team always gets the best pick next season so they can be equal, the schedules are never balanced to make a season mean something causing 2 or 3 mediocre teams always make a playoff with a shot to win it all. all teams no matter how much they make cant spend over a cap.

Thats socialism.

So who is the Commie?

and then i happen to follow the 2 sports that dont have a cap? the 2 sports that encourage a club to grow your fan support or die a slow death.

who is the Commie?

the one who supports and follows and adamantly consumes the socialist american sports sales job? or the one who wont tolerate it?

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Dec 31, 2008 1:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

is Kidd better for this TYPE of team

than Devin??

Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012

by Longhorn on Dec 30, 2008 10:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

who knows

but he sure is a hell of a lot more fun to watch.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 30, 2008 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

in other news

the Mets offer Lowe 3yr/$36M. What does that make Sheets worth?

Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year

by RangerMad on Dec 30, 2008 9:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Eleventy billion dollars?

by LiamP on Dec 30, 2008 9:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Good answer, good answer!!

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Dec 30, 2008 9:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Texa$

Gerald Laird: One Man, 5 Scoops.

by Maximilian on Dec 30, 2008 9:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think you mean $Texas

by LiamP on Dec 30, 2008 9:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

x

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 30, 2008 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Details, details

Gerald Laird: One Man, 5 Scoops.

by Maximilian on Dec 30, 2008 10:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."

- The Huntressatron

by Chase Irwin on Dec 30, 2008 10:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i hate football

Wait 'til the year after next

by NothinG on Dec 30, 2008 10:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

ha ha ha ha

Can you penalty box the blog boss?

I’m going to Big Bend for four days. When I get back I expect an epic five team deal involving at least Hanley Ramirez, Hank Blalock, Salty, Julio Borbon, Buchholz, Jed Lowrie, Albert Pujols, Corey Patterson, and Tug Hulett.

"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley

by trza on Dec 30, 2008 11:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Reds sign Taveras, 2yr/$6.25 million

This seems absolutely inane. Last year, Taveras made $1.95 million with the Rockies and they decided to non-tender him after he had a really bad year. Don’t all teams shop players they are about to non-tender? If the Reds had traded for him, they’d probably owe him 1yr/$2.25 million, at the most. And, they’d have him under yeam control for 2010. This seems mind-numbingly stupid.

by Randy Richardson on Dec 31, 2008 12:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs