DeRosa to the Indians
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 31, 2008 1:46 PM CST
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Mark DeRosa has been traded to the Indians for three minor league pitchers -- Jeffrey Stevens, Chris Archer, and John Gaub. He apparently is going to play third base for the Indians.
The Cubs were moving DeRosa to clear out some room to afford Milton Bradley, who they are apparently about to sign. But I'm sitting here trying to figure out why the Rangers weren't involved in this deal.
Stevens turned 25 in September, and is a righty reliever who the Indians got in the Brandon Phillips trade. He supposedly can get his fastball up to 95, and has put up some nice strikeout numbers in the upper minors the past two years. He seems like someone who is a decent bet to be a contributor in the bullpen for a major league team at some point.
Chris Archer turned 20 in September, and was the Indians 5th round pick in 2006. In the Sally League this year, he put up a mediocre ERA while striking out, and walking, a bunch of guys. He supposedly can throw in the low- to mid-90s, depending on which report you read.
John Gaub is a 23 year old lefty who struck out a bunch of guys in a relief role in the Sally League last year...but then, he's a 23 year old in the Sally League, so that doesn't mean a whole lot.
Actually, sitting here and reading the reports on these guys, it isn't as bleah a package as I initially thought. Gaub isn't anything of note, but Stevens is someone who can probably contribute in a bullpen role right now, and Archer is a live arm with major control problems but some ability.
An equivalent package from the Rangers would probably have been something like...I don't know...Josh Rupe, Michael Kirkman, and Ryan Turner. Although Archer is probably better than Kirkman...maybe Omar Poveda instead of Kirkman.
Given that DeRosa will be a free agent after this season (albeit a free agent who has a good chance of fetching a sandwich pick if he leaves), would you have been willing to part with Rupe, Poveda and Turner to get DeRosa?
That's a hard one, for me.
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Kind of a puzzling move
by the Cubs. I have to think they could have gotten more for him, and Texas could have easily beaten that package and still not have given up anything significant. I’m not going to cry about it, though.
Perhaps the front office is planning not giving up anything in trade unless the return is significant. In other words, a trade for a Greinke fits the long term plan and may be worth the price, but a trade for a DeRosa is only a solution for this year and not worth it even if the price is lower. I don’t know if I agree with that, but I’m not going to cry about DeRosa not being here.
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by t ball on Dec 31, 2008 1:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Extremely puzzling
It apparently isn’t part of a Peavy trade, and they think Fontenot can play second every day, and they’re ready to put Milton Bradley in RF every day. I tried to tell them they were crazy, but no one listened. Can you imagine Soriano and Bradley in the same outfield?
Where is Mick Kelleher when we need him?
by 3744nsheffield on Dec 31, 2008 2:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Bradley
won’t be out there much, he’ll get knicked and bruised and sit a lot. It just doesn’t make any sense to me for any NL team to sign him. Pie is going to play a lot if he’s not dealt.
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by t ball on Dec 31, 2008 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Injuries aside
isn’t bradley a pretty plus defensive outfielder?
by Keynes on Dec 31, 2008 2:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, in the half dozen or so
games he can actually stay out there.
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by t ball on Dec 31, 2008 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
but it’s pretty hard to put the injuries to the side, especially after watching him hobble around last year even late in the season.
by Brett Perryman on Dec 31, 2008 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When it comes down to it, Bradley’s injuries don’t really matter. Well, of course, they matter, but in a different sense.
But in the sense that Bradley for 80-120 games + whoever for the remaining is still better than whoever for the 162 games. Granted it’s going to cost them some money (and a pick?), but if the money’s not an issue Bradley is an upgrade for however many games he plays.
As long as they don’t actually count on Bradley for 150 in their plans it’s a good signing for a seriously contending team with big market team. Which the Cubs are.
by gr7070 on Dec 31, 2008 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's the thing, though
In the NL he still has to hobble around in the OF for those 80-120 games if he isn’t back to his old mobility. I think it’s potentially a pretty big distinction, though I don’t know that he isn’t moving great at this point with no lingering effects.
by Brett Perryman on Dec 31, 2008 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So I guess the determining factor then is an XX% effective Bradley better than the alternative.
So one needs to determine at what percent Bradley is no longer better than the alternative, how likely Bradley is to be that reduced percent, and then what are they willing to pay for it.
A 900 OPS player who when healthy is at minimum an average defender should be much more effective than the alternative even at a much lower percent than 100.
Sure it’s possible he’s the 2009 version of Carlosaurus. We’ll see. I think it’s worth the chance for the Cubs – a team that’s a serious contender and with any luck (maybe a lot of luck?) just added a huge bat with a glove.
by gr7070 on Dec 31, 2008 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley
In his career, he’s played 100+ games in the field only once – ‘04 Dodgers 138. How many times last year was he a last minute scratch or pulled himself out of games? And it wasn’t just related to his ’07 mcl injury, he had pectoral and groin injuries, iirc. I think an NL team signing Bradley to a multi-year deal is the riskiest non-pitcher deal that could be made this offseason.
by Randy Richardson on Dec 31, 2008 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That last post is a little squishy
What it really comes down to, as long as they plan accordingly, is this is purely a financial risk.
When your a team in a position like the Cubs are doesn’t that financial risk make a lot of sense?
Bradley can’t be getting more than two years, can he? And two years, even commanding some serious pay, is probably reasonable given the potential return is high and even the worst case is still a net positive on the field.
by gr7070 on Dec 31, 2008 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would have parted with Rupe and Turner without blinking
But giving up Poveda as well just for a use-once-and-throw-away player (in a year we don’t really expect to contend)… that would have been my sticking point.
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by lonestarJon on Dec 31, 2008 1:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
eh
The over-valuing of Poveda always amuses me.
Poveda is a nice player, but pitcher prospects like him aren’t particularly rare or anything. Every team has 3 or 4 Poveda’s – guys who have a small chance of being a productive major league starter, but more likely will pitch a few years in the big league bullpen if lucky and then disappear. More likely than not, any given Poveda will fade away soon after his productive A-ball years and will only see big league parks with a ticket like you and me.
Said another way – you never let the inclusion of a Poveda make or break a deal. If you want the player you are trading for, you give them Poveda. If you aren’t willing to trade Poveda, then you don’t really want the guy you’re getting anyway.
by JBImaknee on Dec 31, 2008 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i dunno
Poveda is a pretty dang good prospect.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Dec 31, 2008 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cut down on his BB's
and he’d be a much better prospect
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 31, 2008 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
2.8 per 9
through 4 minor league seasons, not too shabby…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Dec 31, 2008 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Though the BB rate ticked up quite a bit
when he went to A+ ball. That could be the park/league, though, but it’d be nice to see that walk rate come right back down again.
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by t ball on Dec 31, 2008 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BB9
take out clinton and that number looks much worse.
he had 4.0 this season in bakersfield and 4.2 the season before in bakersfield.
If he cuts down those walk numbers he looks much better. (assuming the k9 stays similar)
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by rentz on Dec 31, 2008 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The walk rate is more problematic...
…because he doesn’t have great stuff. If he were throwing 94-95 mph and walking guys at that rate, that would be different.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 31, 2008 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Poveda
A low 90s fastball with an excellent change and a developing breaking ball, i think overall his stuff is good with obvious room to get better. He’s still fairly young, and i believe he was one of the younger pitchers in the cal league. His walk rate spiked this year, but he’s still K’n people like crazy…
I wouldn’t add him to deal for a derosa type player, but that’s me…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Dec 31, 2008 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I half expect
a 4 paragraph diatribe from spurdynasty showing that his peripherals in Clinton and Bakersfield have only been matched by pitchers named Santana, Price, and Lincecum… Sure he has good scouting reports and a nice k/9. But he’s in A-ball and not exactly dominating.
He’s at most an even-money bet to ever see Arlington, much less be anywhere close to a valuable major league player. My point isn’t that he’s a bad prospect – but simply that you don’t let guys like him dictate whether you make a deal or not. If you want Player X, and you think he’ll make your team better in 2009, then you include Poveda in the deal. You don’t just give him away, of course, but I can’t see any point where he is a dealbreaker.
by JBImaknee on Dec 31, 2008 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like poveda's chances
but I’ve got to plus one the SpurD bit
http://minormoosings.blogspot.com/
by Goyogringo on Jan 1, 2009 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Poveda and Kirkman are not close in value.
by Jamey Newberg on Dec 31, 2008 1:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I think Poveda is closer in value to Archer than Kirkman, though.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 31, 2008 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, but
Archer has issues. This is not a guy ready to break out or anything, at least from tangible evidence.
by Brett Perryman on Dec 31, 2008 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was also thinking of Schlact as a comp
Archer is sort of like Schlact a few years ago.
Archer is a guy with some ability but disappointing performance this past year at low-A, although he was young for the level. It is hard to find a good Ranger comp…Fabio Castillo has a similar stat profile, but much better stuff.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 31, 2008 2:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Those are good
Beau Jones a couple of years ago is another one that came to mind for me. Jones was a supplemental first rounder and had a very similar first full season as a 19 year old in the SAL. Jones did get hit harder, but also had a better second pitch to point to.
Put all of those names in a hat, and I think people can triangulate what Archer is.
by Brett Perryman on Dec 31, 2008 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Archer
Apparently tops out at 93-94 with a solid curve.
by Jamey Newberg on Dec 31, 2008 11:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah.
The deal makes Metcalf redundant. The increase in productivity isn’t worth the trouble.
Poveda’s also a little rich, although putting him in a package surpasses the Indians’ three.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Dec 31, 2008 1:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
OK, but read the second sentence
DeRosa isn’t a sure thing at his age.
Plus Metcalf is on the roster, and allegedly a good defender. And penciled in as starter, if he beats out German.
He doesn’t interfere with Young’s advance towards 3B, but it’s probably not worth the trouble.
To put it another way, the front office probably declined purely based on salary.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Dec 31, 2008 2:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
at any age.
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by t ball on Dec 31, 2008 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A fencepost makes Metcalf redundant
by Brett Perryman on Dec 31, 2008 1:56 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I would prefer moving MY to 3B, too.
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by lonestarJon on Dec 31, 2008 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To be Fair
He might defend better then a fencepost, but his offense might be as effective as a fencepost.
by SanDiegoKev on Dec 31, 2008 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm hoping
Duran can make Metcalf redundant, at least part time until 2010.
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by t ball on Dec 31, 2008 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Would folks be surprised
if Duran won the job and put in a solid season at the corner, reprising his very fine AA season in 07? I wouldn’t be. Last year was supposed to be spent at AAA but he got stuck on the bench with the Rangers then got sent back down and was injured.
http://minormoosings.blogspot.com/
by Goyogringo on Jan 1, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Duran, but
I would be surprised.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 1, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he should be counted on
as anything more than a temporary player there, and then a utility. Despite his nice ‘07 I don’t think he’s a ML starter.
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by t ball on Jan 2, 2009 8:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And on the arb point...
If he would be relegated to a bench role in 2010, would you really chance an arb offer to a guy who would be 35 years old and probably due a pretty chunk from the panel?
Don’t get me wrong — I’ve said DeRosa was the position player on the top of my wish list for this winter, but my hesitation was the likely loss of DeRosa a year from now. I don’t think we’d risk an arb offer.
by Jamey Newberg on Dec 31, 2008 1:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don't know if they would or not
They could offer him arbitration with the agreement that he’ll decline, so the Rangers will still get the pick (the Pads did that with several players a couple of years ago). With the new rules for Type B free agents, it doesn’t hurt his marketability on the free agent market.
But yeah, it isn’t a given he’d return a draft pick.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 31, 2008 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm probably in the minority here...
but I don’t think DeRo would be enough of an upgrade over Duran to give up those 3 guys (especially if Poveda was included).
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Dec 31, 2008 1:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
nope.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Dec 31, 2008 2:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wanted to bring back DeRosa all along and everyone said he was a fluke
yeah his OPS+ of 118 last year was a real fluke…suck it all.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Dec 31, 2008 2:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
No
I wouldn’t give up Poveda in that deal. If we could do the deal with Kirkman, I’d do it.
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by Gdawg on Dec 31, 2008 2:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bring back Dumpmaster!
http://www.lonestarball.com/2006/7/14/181811/373#2544081
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Dec 31, 2008 2:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great nickname...
…or GREATEST nickname?
Makes me miss Mench, too.
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by ghtd36 on Dec 31, 2008 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
All About The Money
May as well face it. This team isn’t going to spend money on hitting first. It seems fairly simple. Would Dumpmaster help? Sure. Was he worth three modest prospects? Probably. But, is this team going to put $$ to hitting before the pitching situation is played out? No.
From all reports, they won’t sign Sheets until/unless they clear payroll. How does signing Dumpmaster help that? It doesn’t.
Did anyone really think they would add Dero before knowing that Hank was gone or Millwood or Padilla?
This can’t be a surprise.
by atlantaranger on Dec 31, 2008 2:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Beat me to it....
This is just another example that this team is not going to add payroll.
We can forget about Sheets, because our cheap ass owner has made it clear to JD that the payroll can’t go up….which is why we have seen NOTHING this off-season.
You add Derosa and Sheets to this team, and it would really help without hurting our building form the farm.
Might as well face facts….
What we have is what we got…and despite some young guys that are likely to improve, we have a below average baseball team.
by death of the cool on Dec 31, 2008 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Partly right
This team is not going to add payroll…for this player. I think there are a small handful of guys they’d be willing to add some payroll for, but not much, and they’d have to be a bargain even then. But DeRosa is not the guy you try to dump payroll (Millwood, Padilla, Blalock) in a separate deal to clear room for.
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by t ball on Dec 31, 2008 2:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I still am (foolishly maybe) a believer that payroll may go up for the right player. And that we may end up with Sheets. But neither of those possibilities coincides with an add of Derosa for minor leaguers.
by atlantaranger on Dec 31, 2008 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think payroll will only go up
if they can sign Sheets and deal someone like Milly or Blalock to mitigate the impact. Sad, but that seems to be the way it is this winter.
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by t ball on Dec 31, 2008 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't do it...
…but that’s pretty much only because I’m high on Poveda. Love that 8.8 K/9, and especially considering how remarkably consistent it has been in both Clinton and Bakersfield.
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by ghtd36 on Dec 31, 2008 2:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't do it
Lets see what Duran and Metcalf can do.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on Dec 31, 2008 2:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Id much rather see derosa than either duran or metcalf.
But my hope is duran shines at 3b during spring training
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Dec 31, 2008 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
think longterm
One year of Derosa does nothing for this franchise longterm.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on Dec 31, 2008 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Long term
I don’t think either duran or metcalf are any long term solution at third.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Dec 31, 2008 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think that's what he meant.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Dec 31, 2008 2:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if it isn’t then i don’t see how long term matters much. none of the 3 mentioned players are any kind of long term solution.
Derosa gives a solid bat and glove at third and possible draft pick compensation when he leaves
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Dec 31, 2008 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Suffice it to say
that Adam’s question about why weren’t the Rangers in on this is certainly valid.
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by t ball on Dec 31, 2008 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you know for a fact that we weren't?
maybe we were, and they asked for too much. teams look at our system, and they think asking for our 15th best prospect would be okay…nuh uh, not here.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Dec 31, 2008 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's possible
but there was absolutely no buzz about it. Daniels keeps things pretty close to the vest most of the time, so who knows.
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by t ball on Dec 31, 2008 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't it MJH
who said JD was in a tough spot, given the depth and quality of our farm system? That teams would be asking for Beavan’s and NeRa’s from us, rather than the Rupe’s and Poveda’s or Archer/Glaub/Stevens?
by Keynes on Dec 31, 2008 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure who said it
but I think that’s a total cop-out.
by Brett Perryman on Dec 31, 2008 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know Jamey talked about it quite a bit
I don’t think its that much of a cop-out.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Dec 31, 2008 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't agree with that theory at all.
So you are the Cubs and the Indians are offering Archer and the Rangers call up offering you Poveda. Lets assume that you value Poveda more than Archer, and other than that the deals are equivalent.
Now, if you look at the Rangers and see that 1> they really need DeRosa, and 2> they have better talent they may want to give up, you may hold out for a better pitcher. The presence of a dozen good arms in the Rangers system and a mediocre big league club means that they may be willing to make a deal. So you may find it more valuable to hold out.
But at the same time, you’re not going to accept the Archer deal, even though you prefer Poveda, just because you are bitter that JD wouldn’t deal you Ramirez. That argument basically assumes that GMs are choosing not to deal with the Rangers out of spite, which is dumb. If a GM chose lesser players because he was bitter that a team wouldn’t give up bigger names, then he won’t be a GM for long.
by JBImaknee on Dec 31, 2008 5:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah that's nonsense
http://minormoosings.blogspot.com/
by Goyogringo on Jan 1, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
probably not
But, unless you give them ML at-bats you will never know if Duran can be your backup IF for the next 4 years. Or maybe Metcalf hits well enough to be a backup corner IF/5th OFer. Maybe they draw interest from other teams for a trade.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on Dec 31, 2008 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
But the organization also has to think short term sometimes. If no Povedo, then I think you do it. I don’t know if I can handle another year of suck at 3rd. Hell, I’d prefer the pickin machine of Laird at third right now.
Nothing pithy here. Please move long.
by WyoRanger on Dec 31, 2008 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DeRosa
If the Rangers really are in penny-pinching mode, I’d rather they reserve that money ($5.5 million for DeRosa) for pitching (Sheets) and JD’s one year deal fliers.
Also, Cleveland has made a couple of nice moves getting Wood and DeRosa. If they get bounce-back years from Martinez and Carmona, and if Hafner isn’t completely washed up, they should be favorites in that division.
by Randy Richardson on Dec 31, 2008 2:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sheets
I’m thinking more and more that his health issues are bigger than we know.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Dec 31, 2008 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Law Chat
I remember a Law chat early in the offseason in which somebody asked Burnett or Sheets. Law said Burnett because he felt he would be a better bet to stay healthy. I was a bit skeptical, the silence surrounding Sheets is starting to look a bit suspect.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Dec 31, 2008 2:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's hard to tell
this year, considering so many teams are holding back waiting for prices to go down or just staying out of the market altogether.
by Randy Richardson on Dec 31, 2008 3:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Rise and Fall of PRONK
"A ~.650 OPS from a COF should get you deported, not traded for."
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by Chase Irwin on Jan 1, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
starving
We are really starving for some Ranger news. Whenever, if ever, JD makes his next trade or signing, there will be 1000 postings in the first hour. Spread over 10 fanposts. :)
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on Dec 31, 2008 3:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
10 Fanposts?
Yeah right. Try 13 Fanposts breaking the news, another 12 analyzing the move, four FanShots, and 16 Fanposts about how the move affects the Cowboys coaching situation.
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by ghtd36 on Dec 31, 2008 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like an accurate assessment to me
"I´d like to apologize in advance for anything that I may say or do that could be construed as offensive as I slowly go NUTS."
by lonestarJon on Dec 31, 2008 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ha!
http://minormoosings.blogspot.com/
by Goyogringo on Jan 1, 2009 12:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL.............
you win!!
t ball on MY - "hate the contract, don't hate the player"
by bspate on Jan 1, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would not give up Poveda for one year of DeRosa.
Over the last two seasons, Poveda has 250 K’s and only given up 203 hits in 244.1 IP. That is one beautiful combination when a pitcher out K’s his hits like that. His control was fine at the lower levels of the minors so there is hope that maybe he can improve his BB/9 in the future. Remember this is a pitcher who is only 21 and will open the season at AA.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 31, 2008 4:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Also, he was hurt at the beginning of last season
and that affected his numbers a bit. With this kid, there is still room for improvement at his age.
by coolrangersfan on Dec 31, 2008 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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