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So.

There’s officially going to be a playoff game in Arizona.

by philkid3 on Dec 7, 2008 6:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

As I was going to say before Z so rudely closed the thread

We had a guy down there. The returner just grabbed the ball on a bounce and our guy slipped, AGAIN. How exactly did the coaching screw us there or really anywhere in this game? Did you want our guy to grab the ball as soon as it hit the ground and potentially give up 20-30 yards of field position?

Some of you guys just like to bitch no matter what don’t you?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 7, 2008 6:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

If you're replying to me

I’m talking about the unit as a whole, including the punter, not specifically coaching or anything like that. You expect that a punt will gain you at least 30 yards, and you should be able to count on that. Whether it’s purely the punter or a mistake by a coverage player or players, you have to avoid that sort of play in a game like this.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2008 6:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know who it was

But whoever was saying our coaching was terrible all day after that punt return

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 7, 2008 6:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

did anyone else just lose sound?

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

back now

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jay Ratliff

One of the better late round pickups I’ve seen in awhile.

"Relying on the government to protect your privacy is like asking a peeping tom to install your window blinds."

by Maximilian on Dec 7, 2008 6:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

F U Reed

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Darn

So close to missing that

by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2008 6:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

dangit

Jindal - 2012

by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2008 6:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

So close to another Steeler

screw up

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2008 6:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

heh

looks like we got to just see a different one.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2008 6:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

man

that would have been so good if that clanked off.

cowboys offense needs to do something here. at least drive down the field a bit before the punt

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

YESSS

huge!!!

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

now pitt is at least guaranteed a pretty long field

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

choice

stop running to the outside. run up the middle!!

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Come on FG

That’s what we need.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2008 6:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

damn it

what a terrible time for a sack

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

stupid proctor

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Romo looks up and Proctor is standing next to him. Figures.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2008 6:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

why no run there?

Jindal - 2012

by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2008 6:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i hate garrett so much

last 2 possessions poo poo…

Jindal - 2012

by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2008 6:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

not his fault proctor sucks

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This game is not fun to watch.

It’s one of those “tell me about it when it’s over” games.

Yet here I sit. . .

by philkid3 on Dec 7, 2008 6:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

wow

this crew fuckign sucks

Jindal - 2012

by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2008 6:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

take a little longer to make the call why dont 'cha

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Stop bitching about the play

and look at the game. That play is completely on the Cowboys

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2008 6:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

new thread

quick

Jindal - 2012

by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2008 6:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

stupid crew

and we have no challenges

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Good thing Big Ben

can’t throw the ball

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2008 6:11 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

prevent defense

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 7, 2008 6:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

good question

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

we need a turnover

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I got to give Roethlisberger some credit

He went all out trying to get that first down. Most QBs would have slided before then.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2008 6:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

did I just write "slided"

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2008 6:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

slided?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 7, 2008 6:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

bad spot

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

That spot

didn’t even look right did it? What is going on?

by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2008 6:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

crew is giving the steeelers the game

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate to be a homer

but it’s just call after call right now

by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2008 6:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

they gave him a great spot

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 7, 2008 6:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

big ben qb sneak obvi;;;;

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

hard to stop even if it is

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yea

just sayng..

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Refs

Should be ashamed. That spot was about a yard too far forward.

by jf55510 on Dec 7, 2008 6:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yep

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 7, 2008 6:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Refs better spot him poorly now

to make up for that crap

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2008 6:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

these are terrible ass spots

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

He got it

thanks to the mis-spot ont he first one

by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2008 6:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yep

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 7, 2008 6:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yep

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 7, 2008 6:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

that spot

was garbage

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 7, 2008 6:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How can you let them get that open?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2008 6:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

we have been in the prevent defense this whole quarter almost

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 7, 2008 6:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ouch

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 7, 2008 6:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

We need to make sure the clock

works out right now. Needs to be exactly enough time for one more drive after this if they score.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2008 6:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I don't even have

confidence in the Cowboys to be able to make one FG to win this.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2008 6:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why

Why is the secondary play so soft? Playing the zone is the only reason that they have gotten big yard gains all day.

by jf55510 on Dec 7, 2008 6:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Fuck

Fuck. Fucking defense.

by jf55510 on Dec 7, 2008 6:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yay refs

you let htem score. good for you

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

fuckkkkk

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

This is why the prevent defense is terrible

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 7, 2008 6:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

the refs really are the worst

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You know what pisses me off?

FOX hasn’t shown one replay of the Washington skipped ball or the bad spot. Not one. I don’t listen to their audio, so I don’t know if Buck and Aikman are oblivious themselves.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2008 6:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

they mentioned the skipped ball

but not the bad spot

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

anybody have tivo

do you know if that ball was skipped to washington?

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I TiVo'd

I think it was a catch, but it’s hard to tell.

by philkid3 on Dec 7, 2008 6:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, they talked about the questionable call a lot.

At one point they thought they were going to see the replay of it but it was a different play.

Aikman said it looked like a catch, but he couldn’t tell from there and wanted to see a replay.

by philkid3 on Dec 7, 2008 6:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

he was good on the first kickoff

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and this season

He is not a good punt or kick returner

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2008 6:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He hasn't done one thing

as a returner this year. I have no idea how that is, as good as he was at it in Tennessee. The blocking is bad, so that doesn’t help, I guess.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2008 6:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I have to credit the Steelers for

ensuring that they somehow got the ball to start the second half and the wind to end the game. Nice job Wade.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2008 6:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yeah

not sure how that happened

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yea +1 on that

whaaaat

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

wtf?

Freddie King rules faces.

by Ryin A on Dec 7, 2008 6:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

roy is about to go yard

Freddie King rules faces.

by Ryin A on Dec 7, 2008 6:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

oh my god

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 7, 2008 6:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

fucking romo

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i'm crying

Freddie King rules faces.

by Ryin A on Dec 7, 2008 6:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

That's just perfect

instead of not getting the first down, we just throw an interception that is returned for a TD

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2008 6:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Kill Me

I hate life.

by jf55510 on Dec 7, 2008 6:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

well

that makes this easy

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

when?

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

romo = very unclutch

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Clutch = Mostly a Myth

He’s had several clutch moments in his short career.

by philkid3 on Dec 7, 2008 6:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

why am i not surprised

"Relying on the government to protect your privacy is like asking a peeping tom to install your window blinds."

by Maximilian on Dec 7, 2008 6:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

what the fuck is going on with romo

are you pulling a fucking mendoza where your thumb is fucked upa nd your not telling anyone

that was a god aweful throw

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Witten just didn't get it done

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2008 6:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Troy Aikman's head is exploding as we speak

"Relying on the government to protect your privacy is like asking a peeping tom to install your window blinds."

by Maximilian on Dec 7, 2008 6:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

hence the long silence

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

so witten's fault

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

still wasnt a great throw

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He looked right there...

like he was throwing the game on purpose. That wasn’t even CLOSE!

I wonder how much he is getting paid.

I'd love for part of the "new look" to be a return to the red uniforms of the 1990s. - Ian Kinsler

by ortonius on Dec 7, 2008 6:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

you need to mention jessica now

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 7, 2008 6:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

carrie underwood > jessica simpson

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

carrie underwood = bitch

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2008 6:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

he likes to rip on romo for some reason

and always brings up jessica

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 7, 2008 6:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Unreal.

A game they have a chance to steal. Up by 10 in the 4th quarter, and they have a team-wide meltdown. I hate December.

by Athos on Dec 7, 2008 6:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

two run backs not even to the 20

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

and of course a shitty runback

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

That wasn't Romo's best moment.

"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch

by ghtd36 on Dec 7, 2008 6:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

sadly,

it wasn’t his worst.

for two years, i’ve been saying that tony will not do anything for the cowboys. he’s better than johnson, but that doesn’t make him great. he elevates the team at that position, but he doesn’t elevate the team.

i can’t say that i’m surprised. it’s december, and he’s tony romo.

administer the suck…

by sam in so cal on Dec 7, 2008 6:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Special Teams

More special teams sucktitude

by jf55510 on Dec 7, 2008 6:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You know

this whole game I thought the Cowboys deserved to win. But the inability to get two kickoffs to the 20 makes me wonder.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2008 6:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i really wish the refs hadn't given away this game

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

refs? you mean romo?

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Romo is clearly hurt still...

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

tony "luis mendoza" romo

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know who should feel insulted.

Romo or Mendoza. :)

"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch

by ghtd36 on Dec 7, 2008 6:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Romo is self-destructing.

Or maybe he’s really still hurt.

"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch

by ghtd36 on Dec 7, 2008 6:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think he’s still hurt playing his first game without a splint and it’s really cold and his tiny hands are his major weakness anyway.

by philkid3 on Dec 7, 2008 6:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Head of nail, meet philkid3.

That makes a lot of sense.

"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch

by ghtd36 on Dec 7, 2008 6:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Romo has been shit today.

I have no idea what happens to him and why he can’t stay focused.

by Athos on Dec 7, 2008 6:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

best defense in the NFL...

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

His throws have been off by a mile.

That has nothing to do with the defense. The plays have been there and he can’t get a pass on target.

by Athos on Dec 7, 2008 6:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ortonius

thinks it’s the amount of money he makes and jessica’s fault

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 7, 2008 6:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

whether it’s the wind or his finger, he can’t throw straight either. That doesn’t help.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2008 6:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

damn you zywica

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This one's on Z.

"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch

by ghtd36 on Dec 7, 2008 6:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Romo has to be hurt..

his throws are so off.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

it is really windy

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

i’m hoping it’s just that

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

not all of romos bad throws

have been into the wind

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

this is horrible play calling

go deep on 3rd and 10 when you need 10 yards in 2 plays so make it have to go 10 yards in 1 play

burn a fucking time out when you didnt have to or need to

this is horrible clock management
this is horrible play calling
they dont deserve to win this game

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yeah

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

here we go

i got faith

Jindal - 2012

by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2008 6:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Why no one turned around

I have no idea. There was no one looking at the ball there.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2008 6:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

then why did romo force it in

when clearly…clearly they were on different pages

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

QB's throw the ball

all the time before the receiver makes his break.

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 7, 2008 6:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the issue is that its not the first time it happened in this game

it came out of a time out when they should have been on the same page no matter what

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tell me

how you know that is romo’s fault? Witten ran the wrong route on the last possession…

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 7, 2008 6:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Romo can't be waiting for people to get perfectly open and looking

If he does that, he’s getting sacked.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2008 6:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

witten

look back@!!!! wtf jason

Jindal - 2012

by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2008 6:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

wow

this loss really hurts man…

I thought Witten and Romo were road roommates?

Freddie King rules faces.

by Ryin A on Dec 7, 2008 6:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

ball game

romo and witten are on different pages

thats just redic/shitty

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

what the hell was witten doing?

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

that was weird.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

pittsburgh

different team after they hit that big play to santonio. turned the game around.

by selppuc on Dec 7, 2008 6:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

this loss is okay

because atlanta lost.

Jindal - 2012

by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2008 6:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yeah

but i wish the eagles had lost

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

this loss is totally on fucking romo

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'll put some of it on garrett

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

fair enough

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

phillips deserves to go, but....

i am amazed that everybody thinks garret steps right in.

garret will be average at best. he can’t handle half the team effectively, so what makes anyone think he can handle the whole team?

i hate that dallas is becoming synonymous with mediocrity – mavs, stars, cowboys… and of course the rangers. yuck.

by sam in so cal on Dec 7, 2008 6:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

i agree here

i have no problem with brining in stoops?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i can't believe we lost...

our defense was so money.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

2 words
romo.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

romo.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 6:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

10 points overall

i’ll take that…

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

basically

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And they gave those up when they absolutely needed to get stops.

If you’ll take that, then you must like losing games.

by Athos on Dec 7, 2008 6:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you serious?

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

In a close game late, they have to step up. That’s how you win in the NFL.

by Athos on Dec 7, 2008 6:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

they gave up the tie

not the loss.

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well that just makes everything peachy then.

Please pardon my undeserved criticism.

by Athos on Dec 7, 2008 6:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

calm down

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm perfectly calm.

Your point was irrelevant. If they don’t give up that easy TD, then Romo isn’t in a position to throw the winning TD for the other team. Pitt waltzed right down the field and scored with minimal effort on a drive where we absolutely had to have a stop. You can’t do that in the NFL and hope to win.

by Athos on Dec 7, 2008 6:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

your point is kind of dumb

so if the cowboys had let them score in the 3rd quarter but then held them in the 4th, that would been fine?

this is like people who argue that arod doing well in april doesn’t mean anything because he’s not there when it counts.

defense played well the whole game and they probably got hurt by two questionable ref calls.

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They played great for 3+ quarters.

But then they mailed it in up by a touchdown on a hostile field when their own quarterback was sputtering. In a close game, you have to come up big and get a stop there. Overall, they played great and in a typical game where they hold the other team to one touchdown, they’ve done enough to win.

I’m not saying they sucked tonight. This loss is on Romo. But you’ve got to get a stop in that particular situation. Your alternative hypothetical is irrelevant when my criticism is fact specific to the exact situation they were in. You can’t play 3 quarters brilliantly and then relax in the 4th. It really is that simple.

by Athos on Dec 7, 2008 7:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

no, it's not

to rate the defense bad is incorrect.

yes, they should have gotten a stop on the last drive. but you can’t say that the last play is more indicative of how good they are then the first drive or the 10th drive.

it doesn’t make any sense to criticize them in that situation.

you are choosing to over look 3+ quarters AND two bad ref calls. and the 5 turnovers that had the defense playng a short field too many times.

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 7:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeesh. It's like you're not reading what I wrote.

Defense played well enough to win overall. But for Romo’s absolute disaster of a game, they should have won. But as good as they played, they mailed it in on a crucial drive that let Pitt tie the game and cement momentum. That was a bad, bad series. As good as they played, you can’t excuse their performance in that specific situation.

by Athos on Dec 7, 2008 7:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"in a close game, they have to step up. that's how you win in the nfl"

that’s a silly thing to say. It’s like saying choice should have broken his run up the middle for a TD

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 7:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

that's a strained analogy

whatever,. dont’ want to talk about it anymore

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 7:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

Yeah, this discussion definitely needs to stop here if that’s the best you’ve got. I’m done as well.

by Athos on Dec 7, 2008 7:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

With ab03 on this one. You can’t blame the defense for this at all. They did their job all day. The offense completely blew it.

It’s not realistic to think you can hold down a really good team on every possession.

by brettgardner on Dec 7, 2008 7:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

huh?

Jindal - 2012

by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2008 6:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They blew up in the 4th.

That was pretty obvious.

by Athos on Dec 7, 2008 6:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This wasn't Pittsburgh winning the game

this was the Cowboys playing and looking like shit. They are in serious danger of not making the playoffs.

I'd love for part of the "new look" to be a return to the red uniforms of the 1990s. - Ian Kinsler

by ortonius on Dec 7, 2008 6:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

blame jessica right?

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 7, 2008 6:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Jindal - 2012

by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2008 6:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

terrible game

just too many things going agains thte cowboys at the same time.

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

They show TO yelling

I’m glad at least someone is pissed off.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

TO 3 for 32...

sucky gameplan once again. Jason Garrett is such a loser.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

So it's the OC's fault that Romo ...

had zero focus? JG can just call the plays, it’s up to Romo to get the ball in the same zip code as the receiver.

by Athos on Dec 7, 2008 6:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I blamed Romo above

and said I’ll give some blame to Garrett too.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 6:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, the only thing JG could have done to make up for ...

a completely ineffective QB is run every play. Would that have been better? What more could JG have done? What plays did he call that hurt them?

by Athos on Dec 7, 2008 6:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

choice

didn’t run as well in the second half.

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My reference to running every play was rhetorical.

And just a little sarcastic. Didn’t mean to suggest that’s what I thought JG should have done.

by Athos on Dec 7, 2008 6:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

no

i’m saying JG should have ran and did call running plays but choice stopped running north/south.

kind of hurt. barber would have helped a lot in the 4th quarter

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The defense blew this game

and the offense didn’t do squat to change that. When the defense crumbled and let Pittsburgh score, the offense couldn’t even get a first down.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2008 6:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yes, because 5 turnovers

puts the D in a good place.

Jindal - 2012

by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2008 6:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the defense was fine

they allowed basically 10 points.

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and they collapsed in the 4th quarter

A bad time for the defense to start giving up a ton of stuff.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2008 6:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Aside from further endangering their playoff chances

the worst thing about this game is that you’re probably going to have to win in this sort of weather in NY in the playoffs to go anywhere. And it was clearly a big factor in their play.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2008 6:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i'm not too worried

Romo is money on the road.

Jindal - 2012

by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2008 6:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

money for the home team

by lildrummerboy on Dec 7, 2008 6:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Look at today’s game. He choked.

by lildrummerboy on Dec 7, 2008 6:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

one game

okay, you win.

Jindal - 2012

by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2008 6:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

his 2 damn playoff games?

one of which he was GOOD in as a qb, and the other one where the o-line collapsed and he was under heavy pressure all day?

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Dec 7, 2008 7:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

GOOD?

I don’t care how GOOD he was. He hasn’t WON a meaningful game.

by lildrummerboy on Dec 7, 2008 7:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

thats silly

hes not a one man team, and if you expect every good qb to completely dominate and carry every significant game.. its just not going to happen. There are hall of fame qbs who didnt win a big game for the first half of their careers.

Everyone said eli couldnt win a big game then a couple months later hes mr clutch cant lose.

Romo is a good qb, and over time its going to show.

And really, what are you suggesting here? You want to replace romo this offseason because youve determined he cant win in the playoffs? That would be so incredibly foolish.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Dec 7, 2008 7:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Suggesting nothing....

He’s our best option at QB. I just wish he would show up in big games.

by lildrummerboy on Dec 7, 2008 7:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Because hes a freakin good qb

Its the people who change their opinion on every play and lack any perspective at all that have the problem.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Dec 7, 2008 8:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course he is a good QB

He’s a very talented guy. I love many things about his game.

He’s also heavily prone to chokesmanship. Answer me this: if the team is down by 6 with 2 minutes to go, and we have the ball, do you like our chances even remotely?

I sure as hell don’t.

He tends to come up with what my stepfather calls a sizeable case of loser’s limp.

Hopefully, that’ll change.

Nah, noob.

by Brian Thomas on Dec 7, 2008 8:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So you think its a problem that I defend a good player?

And im pretty sure the cowboys have had their share of 4th quarter comebacks under romo.
Hell, his infamous bobbled snap was at the tail end of a drive to go ahead late in the 4th in a playoff game.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Dec 7, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

games decided late in the 4th quarter in the last 2 seasons

giants: TD with 3:00 left to ice game
buffalo: Td with 20 seconds left to get close, field goal drive to win
detroit: TD with 18 seconds left to win
philly: lost
philly: TD with 4:35 to go ahead
washington: lost on a failed onside kick after romo threw a TD at 1:42 to get within 2.
arizona: TD and field goal drives with 2 minutes left to tie game, then broke finger in overtime before blocked punt to lose
washington: 5+ minute drive to ice game and run out the clock.
pittsburgh: lost game with interception and failed drive at end.

dear god, what a horrible track record.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Dec 7, 2008 8:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oh and another stat

4th quarter interceptions this season through weak 12: zero.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Dec 7, 2008 8:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

week*

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Dec 7, 2008 8:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How many playoff wins?

by lildrummerboy on Dec 7, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

you see, this post was in response to saying he doesnt want him late in games

not playoff games. which i previously addressed. romo doesnt have a good playoff record, but 2 games, in neither of which he was the real cause of the loss, is not enough to condemn him as someone who cant perform in the playoffs.

seriously, there are a LOT of qbs with superbowl rings who went more than 0-2 in the playoffs to start their careers.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Dec 7, 2008 8:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

3-8 dec/jan

on playoff-caliber cowboys teams.

i think that sucks.

if it’s not his fault, then it’s a crappy coincidence.

i don’t think that anybody realistically thinks that he is not good. similarly, i am hopefully optimistic that nobody actually thinks he’s great.

he’s a starting qb in the nfl. of course he’s good. beyond that, we can only speculate about his potential b/c he hasn’t proved anything to me.

in related news – i’m not sure if you guys knew this, but we have roy freakin’ williams at receiver now, too. you wouldn’t know it from watching. when do we see this guy???

by sam in so cal on Dec 7, 2008 8:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Peyton

took how long to win his first playoff game?

Came into the league in the ’98 season and won his first playoff game in the 2003 season.

Didn’t win a Super Bowl till the 2006 season.

Romo will be fine.

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 7, 2008 8:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

that's a fair comparison...

you are implying that the colts teams he was losing on are as good as the recent cowboy teams – which is wrong.

the colts SUCKED his first few years.

they made the playoffs, and he looked horrible against the jets 2002.

2003 he went 2-1 in the playoffs.

they went 1-1 in 2004 playoffs (losing to new england for 2nd straight year).

you may be the first to compare tony romo to peyton manning, but i think we see that romo is failing to follow in those footsteps.

by sam in so cal on Dec 7, 2008 9:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No

I’m just saying great QB’s don’t always win right away.

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 7, 2008 9:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

what are you talking about

peyton had an amazing team his second year and third year (where he absolutely sucked)

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 11:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A few things

First, I guess I need to repeat this: I think Romo is a very good qb.

Second, you really should google you some Danny White. I stand behind it as a very apt comparison.

Third, you giving him credit for “icing” the Wash game is ridiculous. He didn’t even throw the ball on that drive. And I don’t want to debate this again, b/c I’ve already read your stance, but not putting any blame on him for the Arizona game is something that baffles me as well. Agree to disagree there.

Fourth, we have 6-7 pro bowlers not including Romo on offense. He has more weapons than the terminator.

Fifth, sam stole my point about Mr. November, which I think has a good deal to do with that fat slob we have as a head coach, but still doesn’t reflect well on him.

And finally, I’ll repeat this again: I’m not contending that he won’t get it together eventually. Many have, and many haven’t.

This season is hard to judge with the injury (and injuries to others) and all, but he doesn’t look to have made any progress from last year’s meltdown. Do you feel he has matured as a QB; that the 08 Romo is better than the 07 version?

Nah, noob.

by Brian Thomas on Dec 7, 2008 8:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

x

first- uh, i made no suggestion you said anything otherwise since that post. but thanks for the reminder. the only football point i directly disagreed with you on was the 4th quarter comebacks, which you didnt actually address in this post beyond one nitpick. also didnt reply to the one other thing ive said to you, whats wrong with defending a good player? You won’t find me saying hes the best QB in the nfl or something.

2nd – k….

3rd- Technically he did throw a pass, a dump off to barber for 26 yards, but ok, yes he wasnt a major factor in that one so strike that game if you wish.

But by the same token some of the games he lost wern’t his fault, and that that still leaves several 4th quarter comebacks and key drives. I still contend hes been just fine in most close & late 4th quarter situations.

4th- In a not so strange coincidence, so do most of the QBs considered good by the public.

5th – Dont you mean mr late august, september, october, and november?
What about romo makes you think december struggles thus far are who he is and not just how things have thus far played out. Does it really seem like he cracks under pressure to you? Ive already said he hasnt been great in the playoffs so far, but with a fairly small sample size Im not contributing that to some problem in his game.

On the flipside, if he does go on a great run here and carry the cowboys deep into the playoffs, I wont be saying he made a huge step forward in his game. Im obviously not a believer in any of these qbs being “mr december”. Not every good qb can win every year. If brady comes back next year and loses in the first round of the playoffs for a couple years in a row im not going to then decide he has lost his playoff ability.

6th – K..

SUMMARY: The bottom line here is that you read everything into his late season struggles thus far, and I dont care all that much.

Now, back to the only thing I ever actually asked you: Whats wrong with me defending romo. You took issue with me, not the other way around so why are you posting so defensively.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Dec 7, 2008 9:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I have no problem with defending a good player

I said you made excuses for him, like when you said it was ALL the OL’s fault in the AZ game. But you haven’t really done that for this game, so maybe I was generalizing too much.

One of the problems with these boards is how hard it is to assess someone’s tone. If I came across as defensive, it was unintentional. I meant no rancor.

Romo has a QB rating 30 points lower than his average in Dec./Jan, and 50 points lower than November. I think he’s played enough games, with enough talent around him, to believe that’s a problem.

Don’t you?

Nah, noob.

by Brian Thomas on Dec 8, 2008 9:19 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't lack perspective....

I’m just worried he may be the another Danny White. Stats aren’t everything.

by lildrummerboy on Dec 7, 2008 8:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I typed that as soon as the game was over. no evidence to back it up. just pissed.

by lildrummerboy on Dec 7, 2008 8:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

um no

NY will get a bye

IF dallas makes the playoffs the won’t make it to ny in the 2nd week.

by sam in so cal on Dec 7, 2008 6:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

first game all year romo deserves the criticism

though I still want to know what was up with he and witten constantly screwing up.

its not that surprising to lose to pitt, but they way in happened in the 4th was obviously… horrible.

well, at least atlanta losing keeps the playoffs alive, but its going to take some great performances.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Dec 7, 2008 6:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

it looked like the last two throws were on witten

which is just odd to say the least. what was he doing?

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

this loss hurts don’t get me wrong, but it’s not as bad as atlanta’s loss was today.

Gotta go 3-1 now though right?

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 7, 2008 6:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

is that enough?

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That would be 11-6

I would think so…

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 7, 2008 6:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

well

are they beating someone in the playoffs to get to to the 11th win?

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bah I meant 2-1 earlier and 10-6

Giants, Baltimore, and @ Philly are the last 3.

It’s gonna be close.

But the NFC south teams still have to play each other and things like that.

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 7, 2008 6:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

um no

maybe should refamiliarize yourself with the arizona game

by sam in so cal on Dec 7, 2008 8:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

there are so many little things that would have helped

newman, you can’t give up that huge play

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 6:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The game was over

If Newman could have made a play there besides getting burned.

by hiafex on Dec 7, 2008 6:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

tuff loss...

17-0 in the fourth plus is tough…

i definitely think this is a game where tony romo’s play exasterbated what could have been a cowboys win…. the defense was phenominal. it can’t be stated enough how well the defense played. yet, as always. the play of the QB dictates the game and, even as a homer, romo played terrible and should shoulder the lions share of the critisizm…

romo will always cost his team 2-3 wins a season, and always be credited with 2-3 wins... no matter the season... this was one of those loses...

"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...

by ivysafety39 on Dec 7, 2008 6:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

you know

romo did have a bad game but i don’t think enough epople are putting the blame on witten for the last INT. the ball sailed a bit but he missed his route. not sure what would have happened if he had ran the right route

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 7:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Romo's game wasn't "bad" ...

it was horrible. He was off significantly all game long. Either he was horrible, or his receivers had the worst game in the history of the sport in being out of position. I think common sense dictates it’s the former.

by Athos on Dec 7, 2008 7:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

what the hell?

no it doesn’t. witten took the blame straight out for the last INT and TO stopped running on the 1st INT. the fade route was on romo and the fumble was really close. he was airmailing throws all game but it’s not like every single thing was his fault

also, i’m not going to debate the difference between bad and horrible.

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 7:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How about "shitty"?

That’s another accurate way to describe Romo’s play tonight.

by Athos on Dec 7, 2008 7:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

BCS selection show

im interested to see how far behind texas is at #3

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 7:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

va tech vs cincy

usc vs penn state

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 7:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

TCU > Cincy

MWC >>>> Big East

"Relying on the government to protect your privacy is like asking a peeping tom to install your window blinds."

by Maximilian on Dec 7, 2008 7:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the conferences shouldnt matte

is there an arguement that va tech is better than tech? boise? tcu?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 7:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

texas tech/boise st/tcu

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 7:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Autobids

I know it’s all about the money/drawing power, but god, do I hate it. Big East/ACC were not strong conferences this year.

Even the SEC, outside of Florida/Bama wasn’t really impressive. Georgia was clearly not a big time team this year. Tennessee/Vanderbilt/LSU/Auburn? YAWN.

"Relying on the government to protect your privacy is like asking a peeping tom to install your window blinds."

by Maximilian on Dec 7, 2008 7:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

whast the arguement for va tech or cincy > texas tech/boise st/tcu?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 7:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

TExas 3rd

we were well ahead in the computers. lost the championship game by less that 2 hundredths of a point..

http://cfn.scout.com/a.z?s=451&p=2&c=557949

Jindal - 2012

by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2008 7:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

ACC

8 game bcs bowl losing streak

damnnnnnn

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 7:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

imagaine how gators fans would feel

if they won and Alabama was still ahead of them and were playing in the NC game. That is how I feel. Why isn’t that the case here?

Oh well, next year.

Jindal - 2012

by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2008 7:11 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

geez

i can’t spell today.

Jindal - 2012

by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2008 7:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

it is very similar

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 7:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i hiate tim tebow

that smug son of a bitch

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 7:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i don't understand how he became such a media darling

people are calling him one of the best college football players ever! really?

""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley

by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 7:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

EXACTLY

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 7:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

if tebow wins the heisman AGAIN

my head will explode

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 7:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

steelers are the best team in the AFC

and enough with all of this BS talk about the Cowboys. THEY BEAT THE 49ERS AND THE SEAHAWKS, so what!?!?

by Stevoo on Dec 7, 2008 7:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

fuck bob stoops

“win vs #2 and #11 and your still agrivated”

pulled out the if h2h works for texas/OU why not for TT/texas? shit

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 7:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

so he uses the name of his off coordinator

but leaves venables out?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 7:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i will say this

i feel bad for texas tech – they are waaaaaaaaaaaaay better than va tech

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 7:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

urban meyer

i bet is coaching at ND in the next 3 years

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 7:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Jeremy fulley

won’t let that happen.

"You can be a leader or follower.... Or you can be elite...." - Me

by miles on Dec 7, 2008 7:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

prediction

i bet its a 3 TD game …. in OUs favor

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 7:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

How is Florda higher ranked than Texas

Florida lost to Ole Miss at home

Texas lost to Texas Tech on the road.

Florida beat Alabama and……no one.

Texas beat OU, Missouri, Oklahoma State

by Stevoo on Dec 7, 2008 7:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Kirk Herbstreit

is a fucking idiot.

"Relying on the government to protect your privacy is like asking a peeping tom to install your window blinds."

by Maximilian on Dec 7, 2008 8:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

what did he say?

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 7, 2008 8:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

good point

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 7, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Earlier

while talking about Utah/Bama. Saying that a MWC team can never go to a national title game.

This Utah team? No, I agree they aren’t that good. But he dismisses the conference as a whole, even though they’ve had a great season. Hence my idiot remarks.

"Relying on the government to protect your privacy is like asking a peeping tom to install your window blinds."

by Maximilian on Dec 7, 2008 8:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Well he's right

that in the current system a MWC pretty much can’t make the title game.

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 7, 2008 8:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I know it's hypothetical:

but hypothetically, if TCU beat OU and Utah, you wouldn’t put them at least in consideration? Their schedule was respectable this year, and almost all the games they played, they won convincingly. I’m not saying this as a TCU fan either.

I didn’t expect Michigan to be this awful, so preseason, it looked like a stronger schedule for Utah too. They did everything expected of them, and won a tough conference. I just took exception to him comparing the MWC to the MAC or WAC in terms of toughness.

"Relying on the government to protect your privacy is like asking a peeping tom to install your window blinds."

by Maximilian on Dec 7, 2008 8:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs