Cowboys game Thread 2
by Brett Perryman
on Dec 7, 2008 5:59 PM CST
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So.
There’s officially going to be a playoff game in Arizona.
by philkid3 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:01 PM CST
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As I was going to say before Z so rudely closed the thread
We had a guy down there. The returner just grabbed the ball on a bounce and our guy slipped, AGAIN. How exactly did the coaching screw us there or really anywhere in this game? Did you want our guy to grab the ball as soon as it hit the ground and potentially give up 20-30 yards of field position?
Some of you guys just like to bitch no matter what don’t you?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Dec 7, 2008 6:03 PM CST
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If you're replying to me
I’m talking about the unit as a whole, including the punter, not specifically coaching or anything like that. You expect that a punt will gain you at least 30 yards, and you should be able to count on that. Whether it’s purely the punter or a mistake by a coverage player or players, you have to avoid that sort of play in a game like this.
by Brett Perryman on
Dec 7, 2008 6:06 PM CST
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I don't know who it was
But whoever was saying our coaching was terrible all day after that punt return
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Dec 7, 2008 6:09 PM CST
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did anyone else just lose sound?
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:03 PM CST
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Jay Ratliff
One of the better late round pickups I’ve seen in awhile.
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by Maximilian on
Dec 7, 2008 6:04 PM CST
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F U Reed
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by Agreen07 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:04 PM CST
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So close to another Steeler
screw up
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Dec 7, 2008 6:04 PM CST
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man
that would have been so good if that clanked off.
cowboys offense needs to do something here. at least drive down the field a bit before the punt
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:05 PM CST
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Barber
This is where we really start missing Barber as a finisher.
by Andy Seiler on
Dec 7, 2008 6:05 PM CST
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i guess we'll see
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:05 PM CST
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i don't think we are where we are in this game
with Barber
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 7, 2008 6:06 PM CST
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we picked up two amazing RB's in the draft
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:06 PM CST
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YESSS
huge!!!
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:06 PM CST
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now pitt is at least guaranteed a pretty long field
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:06 PM CST
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choice
stop running to the outside. run up the middle!!
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:07 PM CST
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damn it
what a terrible time for a sack
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:07 PM CST
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stupid proctor
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:08 PM CST
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Yep
Romo looks up and Proctor is standing next to him. Figures.
by Brett Perryman on
Dec 7, 2008 6:08 PM CST
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i hate garrett so much
last 2 possessions poo poo…
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 7, 2008 6:09 PM CST
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not his fault proctor sucks
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:09 PM CST
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This game is not fun to watch.
It’s one of those “tell me about it when it’s over” games.
Yet here I sit. . .
by philkid3 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:09 PM CST
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wow
this crew fuckign sucks
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 7, 2008 6:10 PM CST
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take a little longer to make the call why dont 'cha
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on
Dec 7, 2008 6:10 PM CST
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Stop bitching about the play
and look at the game. That play is completely on the Cowboys
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Dec 7, 2008 6:10 PM CST
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stupid crew
and we have no challenges
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:10 PM CST
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Good thing Big Ben
can’t throw the ball
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Dec 7, 2008 6:11 PM CST
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Why are guys running around wide open
all of the sudden?
by Brett Perryman on
Dec 7, 2008 6:11 PM CST
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prevent defense
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Dec 7, 2008 6:12 PM CST
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Caution
It’s a Phillips trademark.
by Andy Seiler on
Dec 7, 2008 6:12 PM CST
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good question
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:12 PM CST
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we need a turnover
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:12 PM CST
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I got to give Roethlisberger some credit
He went all out trying to get that first down. Most QBs would have slided before then.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Dec 7, 2008 6:13 PM CST
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did I just write "slided"
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Dec 7, 2008 6:13 PM CST
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bad spot
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:13 PM CST
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That spot
didn’t even look right did it? What is going on?
by Brett Perryman on
Dec 7, 2008 6:13 PM CST
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crew is giving the steeelers the game
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:13 PM CST
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I hate to be a homer
but it’s just call after call right now
by Brett Perryman on
Dec 7, 2008 6:14 PM CST
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they gave him a great spot
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Dec 7, 2008 6:13 PM CST
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big ben qb sneak obvi;;;;
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by Agreen07 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:13 PM CST
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hard to stop even if it is
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:14 PM CST
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The Refs
Should be ashamed. That spot was about a yard too far forward.
by jf55510 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:14 PM CST
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Refs better spot him poorly now
to make up for that crap
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Dec 7, 2008 6:14 PM CST
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these are terrible ass spots
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:15 PM CST
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He got it
thanks to the mis-spot ont he first one
by Brett Perryman on
Dec 7, 2008 6:15 PM CST
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that spot
was garbage
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on
Dec 7, 2008 6:19 PM CST
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We look like we don’t want to lose, not like we want to make a stop. It’s embarassing.
by Andy Seiler on
Dec 7, 2008 6:16 PM CST
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How can you let them get that open?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Dec 7, 2008 6:16 PM CST
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we have been in the prevent defense this whole quarter almost
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Dec 7, 2008 6:16 PM CST
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ouch
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Dec 7, 2008 6:16 PM CST
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We need to make sure the clock
works out right now. Needs to be exactly enough time for one more drive after this if they score.
by Brett Perryman on
Dec 7, 2008 6:17 PM CST
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I don't even have
confidence in the Cowboys to be able to make one FG to win this.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Dec 7, 2008 6:17 PM CST
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Why
Why is the secondary play so soft? Playing the zone is the only reason that they have gotten big yard gains all day.
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Dec 7, 2008 6:17 PM CST
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yay refs
you let htem score. good for you
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by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:17 PM CST
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fuckkkkk
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
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Dec 7, 2008 6:17 PM CST
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This is why the prevent defense is terrible
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Dec 7, 2008 6:18 PM CST
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the refs really are the worst
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:18 PM CST
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And now...
Let’s start a drive into the wind.
by Andy Seiler on
Dec 7, 2008 6:19 PM CST
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You know what pisses me off?
FOX hasn’t shown one replay of the Washington skipped ball or the bad spot. Not one. I don’t listen to their audio, so I don’t know if Buck and Aikman are oblivious themselves.
by Brett Perryman on
Dec 7, 2008 6:19 PM CST
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they mentioned the skipped ball
but not the bad spot
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:19 PM CST
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anybody have tivo
do you know if that ball was skipped to washington?
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by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:20 PM CST
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I don't think the original view was good enough to be sure
was a side view from far off
by Brett Perryman on
Dec 7, 2008 6:21 PM CST
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Yeah, they talked about the questionable call a lot.
At one point they thought they were going to see the replay of it but it was a different play.
Aikman said it looked like a catch, but he couldn’t tell from there and wanted to see a replay.
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Dec 7, 2008 6:21 PM CST
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Pacman needs to not play special teams anymore.
He’s been ridiculously bad today.
by Athos on
Dec 7, 2008 6:21 PM CST
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he was good on the first kickoff
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by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:22 PM CST
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and this season
He is not a good punt or kick returner
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Dec 7, 2008 6:22 PM CST
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He hasn't done one thing
as a returner this year. I have no idea how that is, as good as he was at it in Tennessee. The blocking is bad, so that doesn’t help, I guess.
by Brett Perryman on
Dec 7, 2008 6:23 PM CST
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I have to credit the Steelers for
ensuring that they somehow got the ball to start the second half and the wind to end the game. Nice job Wade.
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Dec 7, 2008 6:22 PM CST
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yea +1 on that
whaaaat
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Dec 7, 2008 6:23 PM CST
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roy is about to go yard
Freddie King rules faces.
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Dec 7, 2008 6:23 PM CST
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oh my god
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on
Dec 7, 2008 6:24 PM CST
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fucking romo
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Dec 7, 2008 6:24 PM CST
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That's just perfect
instead of not getting the first down, we just throw an interception that is returned for a TD
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Dec 7, 2008 6:24 PM CST
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well
that makes this easy
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:24 PM CST
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when?
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:24 PM CST
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Conversation with my Steelers fan g/f.
by philkid3 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:25 PM CST
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doesn't count
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
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Dec 7, 2008 6:27 PM CST
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romo = very unclutch
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
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Dec 7, 2008 6:24 PM CST
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Clutch = Mostly a Myth
He’s had several clutch moments in his short career.
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Dec 7, 2008 6:25 PM CST
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why am i not surprised
"Relying on the government to protect your privacy is like asking a peeping tom to install your window blinds."
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Dec 7, 2008 6:24 PM CST
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what the fuck is going on with romo
are you pulling a fucking mendoza where your thumb is fucked upa nd your not telling anyone
that was a god aweful throw
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Witten just didn't get it done
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Dec 7, 2008 6:25 PM CST
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Troy Aikman's head is exploding as we speak
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by Maximilian on
Dec 7, 2008 6:25 PM CST
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hence the long silence
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Dec 7, 2008 6:25 PM CST
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so witten's fault
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
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still wasnt a great throw
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Dec 7, 2008 6:25 PM CST
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He looked right there...
like he was throwing the game on purpose. That wasn’t even CLOSE!
I wonder how much he is getting paid.
I'd love for part of the "new look" to be a return to the red uniforms of the 1990s. - Ian Kinsler
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Dec 7, 2008 6:25 PM CST
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you need to mention jessica now
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on
Dec 7, 2008 6:26 PM CST
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carrie underwood > jessica simpson
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Dec 7, 2008 6:26 PM CST
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carrie underwood = bitch
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
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Dec 7, 2008 6:27 PM CST
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he likes to rip on romo for some reason
and always brings up jessica
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
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Unreal.
A game they have a chance to steal. Up by 10 in the 4th quarter, and they have a team-wide meltdown. I hate December.
by Athos on
Dec 7, 2008 6:26 PM CST
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Thank goodness Witten couldn't tackle him
The game would be over.
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two run backs not even to the 20
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and of course a shitty runback
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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That wasn't Romo's best moment.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
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Dec 7, 2008 6:26 PM CST
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sadly,
it wasn’t his worst.
for two years, i’ve been saying that tony will not do anything for the cowboys. he’s better than johnson, but that doesn’t make him great. he elevates the team at that position, but he doesn’t elevate the team.
i can’t say that i’m surprised. it’s december, and he’s tony romo.
administer the suck…
by sam in so cal on
Dec 7, 2008 6:29 PM CST
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Special Teams
More special teams sucktitude
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Dec 7, 2008 6:26 PM CST
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You know
this whole game I thought the Cowboys deserved to win. But the inability to get two kickoffs to the 20 makes me wonder.
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Dec 7, 2008 6:27 PM CST
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i really wish the refs hadn't given away this game
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
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Dec 7, 2008 6:27 PM CST
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refs? you mean romo?
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
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Phillips
I’m not one to do this, but I’m done with Phillips. He should be fired. Period. This is one of the most under-performing, weak-minded teams I’ve ever seen. I was fine with keeping Ron Washington. I’m not with Phillips.
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Dec 7, 2008 6:27 PM CST
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why
phillips is about 10x the coach ron washington is
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Wash
Wash does less to hurt the team than Phillips does to hurt the Cowboys. Wash’s game management sucks, but Phillips’ teams are consistently soft and make huge mental mistakes.
by Andy Seiler on
Dec 7, 2008 6:28 PM CST
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the coach of the team
doesn’t really matter.
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Dec 7, 2008 6:28 PM CST
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why?
what did he do wrong?
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:28 PM CST
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Mental Mistakes
All the costly penalties and such are on him. He hasn’t done anything to correct them. We sit back and let teams attack late, and we don’t unleash talent with our gameplan. It’s like watching Rich Rodriguez bang his head against the wall at Michigan because players don’t fit to him.
by Andy Seiler on
Dec 7, 2008 6:30 PM CST
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Romo is clearly hurt still...
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
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tony "luis mendoza" romo
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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I don't know who should feel insulted.
Romo or Mendoza. :)
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Romo is self-destructing.
Or maybe he’s really still hurt.
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I think he’s still hurt playing his first game without a splint and it’s really cold and his tiny hands are his major weakness anyway.
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Head of nail, meet philkid3.
That makes a lot of sense.
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Romo has been shit today.
I have no idea what happens to him and why he can’t stay focused.
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best defense in the NFL...
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
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His throws have been off by a mile.
That has nothing to do with the defense. The plays have been there and he can’t get a pass on target.
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ortonius
thinks it’s the amount of money he makes and jessica’s fault
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on
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Well
whether it’s the wind or his finger, he can’t throw straight either. That doesn’t help.
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damn you zywica
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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This one's on Z.
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Romo has to be hurt..
his throws are so off.
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it is really windy
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
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not all of romos bad throws
have been into the wind
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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this is horrible play calling
go deep on 3rd and 10 when you need 10 yards in 2 plays so make it have to go 10 yards in 1 play
burn a fucking time out when you didnt have to or need to
this is horrible clock management
this is horrible play calling
they dont deserve to win this game
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Why no one turned around
I have no idea. There was no one looking at the ball there.
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then why did romo force it in
when clearly…clearly they were on different pages
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Dec 7, 2008 6:32 PM CST
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QB's throw the ball
all the time before the receiver makes his break.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on
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the issue is that its not the first time it happened in this game
it came out of a time out when they should have been on the same page no matter what
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Tell me
how you know that is romo’s fault? Witten ran the wrong route on the last possession…
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
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Romo can't be waiting for people to get perfectly open and looking
If he does that, he’s getting sacked.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
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witten
look back@!!!! wtf jason
Jindal - 2012
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Tony Romo = Danny White
Nah, noob.
by Brian Thomas on
Dec 7, 2008 8:02 PM CST
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wow
this loss really hurts man…
I thought Witten and Romo were road roommates?
Freddie King rules faces.
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ball game
romo and witten are on different pages
thats just redic/shitty
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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what the hell was witten doing?
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
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that was weird.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
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pittsburgh
different team after they hit that big play to santonio. turned the game around.
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this loss is okay
because atlanta lost.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
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this loss is totally on fucking romo
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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I'll put some of it on garrett
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by Agreen07 on
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fair enough
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Dec 7, 2008 6:33 PM CST
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phillips deserves to go, but....
i am amazed that everybody thinks garret steps right in.
garret will be average at best. he can’t handle half the team effectively, so what makes anyone think he can handle the whole team?
i hate that dallas is becoming synonymous with mediocrity – mavs, stars, cowboys… and of course the rangers. yuck.
by sam in so cal on
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+1
i agree here
i have no problem with brining in stoops?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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i can't believe we lost...
our defense was so money.
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2 words
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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10 points overall
i’ll take that…
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:33 PM CST
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And they gave those up when they absolutely needed to get stops.
If you’ll take that, then you must like losing games.
by Athos on
Dec 7, 2008 6:35 PM CST
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Are you serious?
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Yep.
In a close game late, they have to step up. That’s how you win in the NFL.
by Athos on
Dec 7, 2008 6:37 PM CST
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they gave up the tie
not the loss.
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by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:39 PM CST
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Well that just makes everything peachy then.
Please pardon my undeserved criticism.
by Athos on
Dec 7, 2008 6:41 PM CST
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calm down
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by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:42 PM CST
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I'm perfectly calm.
Your point was irrelevant. If they don’t give up that easy TD, then Romo isn’t in a position to throw the winning TD for the other team. Pitt waltzed right down the field and scored with minimal effort on a drive where we absolutely had to have a stop. You can’t do that in the NFL and hope to win.
by Athos on
Dec 7, 2008 6:45 PM CST
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your point is kind of dumb
so if the cowboys had let them score in the 3rd quarter but then held them in the 4th, that would been fine?
this is like people who argue that arod doing well in april doesn’t mean anything because he’s not there when it counts.
defense played well the whole game and they probably got hurt by two questionable ref calls.
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:51 PM CST
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They played great for 3+ quarters.
But then they mailed it in up by a touchdown on a hostile field when their own quarterback was sputtering. In a close game, you have to come up big and get a stop there. Overall, they played great and in a typical game where they hold the other team to one touchdown, they’ve done enough to win.
I’m not saying they sucked tonight. This loss is on Romo. But you’ve got to get a stop in that particular situation. Your alternative hypothetical is irrelevant when my criticism is fact specific to the exact situation they were in. You can’t play 3 quarters brilliantly and then relax in the 4th. It really is that simple.
by Athos on
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no, it's not
to rate the defense bad is incorrect.
yes, they should have gotten a stop on the last drive. but you can’t say that the last play is more indicative of how good they are then the first drive or the 10th drive.
it doesn’t make any sense to criticize them in that situation.
you are choosing to over look 3+ quarters AND two bad ref calls. and the 5 turnovers that had the defense playng a short field too many times.
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by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 7:24 PM CST
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Yeesh. It's like you're not reading what I wrote.
Defense played well enough to win overall. But for Romo’s absolute disaster of a game, they should have won. But as good as they played, they mailed it in on a crucial drive that let Pitt tie the game and cement momentum. That was a bad, bad series. As good as they played, you can’t excuse their performance in that specific situation.
by Athos on
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"in a close game, they have to step up. that's how you win in the nfl"
that’s a silly thing to say. It’s like saying choice should have broken his run up the middle for a TD
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by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 7:29 PM CST
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that's a strained analogy
whatever,. dont’ want to talk about it anymore
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by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 7:30 PM CST
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I agree
With ab03 on this one. You can’t blame the defense for this at all. They did their job all day. The offense completely blew it.
It’s not realistic to think you can hold down a really good team on every possession.
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Dec 7, 2008 7:12 PM CST
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They blew up in the 4th.
That was pretty obvious.
by Athos on
Dec 7, 2008 6:35 PM CST
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This wasn't Pittsburgh winning the game
this was the Cowboys playing and looking like shit. They are in serious danger of not making the playoffs.
I'd love for part of the "new look" to be a return to the red uniforms of the 1990s. - Ian Kinsler
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blame jessica right?
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on
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terrible game
just too many things going agains thte cowboys at the same time.
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
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They show TO yelling
I’m glad at least someone is pissed off.
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TO 3 for 32...
sucky gameplan once again. Jason Garrett is such a loser.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
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So it's the OC's fault that Romo ...
had zero focus? JG can just call the plays, it’s up to Romo to get the ball in the same zip code as the receiver.
by Athos on
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I blamed Romo above
and said I’ll give some blame to Garrett too.
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
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Well, the only thing JG could have done to make up for ...
a completely ineffective QB is run every play. Would that have been better? What more could JG have done? What plays did he call that hurt them?
by Athos on
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choice
didn’t run as well in the second half.
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Dec 7, 2008 6:41 PM CST
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My reference to running every play was rhetorical.
And just a little sarcastic. Didn’t mean to suggest that’s what I thought JG should have done.
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no
i’m saying JG should have ran and did call running plays but choice stopped running north/south.
kind of hurt. barber would have helped a lot in the 4th quarter
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by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:59 PM CST
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The defense blew this game
and the offense didn’t do squat to change that. When the defense crumbled and let Pittsburgh score, the offense couldn’t even get a first down.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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by Gdawg on
Dec 7, 2008 6:35 PM CST
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yes, because 5 turnovers
puts the D in a good place.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
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the defense was fine
they allowed basically 10 points.
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and they collapsed in the 4th quarter
A bad time for the defense to start giving up a ton of stuff.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Dec 7, 2008 6:58 PM CST
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Aside from further endangering their playoff chances
the worst thing about this game is that you’re probably going to have to win in this sort of weather in NY in the playoffs to go anywhere. And it was clearly a big factor in their play.
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i'm not too worried
Romo is money on the road.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
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look at his record on the road
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
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Look at today’s game. He choked.
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one game
okay, you win.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
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Look at his record in big games.
by lildrummerboy on
Dec 7, 2008 6:55 PM CST
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his 2 damn playoff games?
one of which he was GOOD in as a qb, and the other one where the o-line collapsed and he was under heavy pressure all day?
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on
Dec 7, 2008 7:15 PM CST
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GOOD?
I don’t care how GOOD he was. He hasn’t WON a meaningful game.
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Dec 7, 2008 7:24 PM CST
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thats silly
hes not a one man team, and if you expect every good qb to completely dominate and carry every significant game.. its just not going to happen. There are hall of fame qbs who didnt win a big game for the first half of their careers.
Everyone said eli couldnt win a big game then a couple months later hes mr clutch cant lose.
Romo is a good qb, and over time its going to show.
And really, what are you suggesting here? You want to replace romo this offseason because youve determined he cant win in the playoffs? That would be so incredibly foolish.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on
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Suggesting nothing....
He’s our best option at QB. I just wish he would show up in big games.
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You always make excuses for Romo
Nah, noob.
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Dec 7, 2008 8:08 PM CST
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Because hes a freakin good qb
Its the people who change their opinion on every play and lack any perspective at all that have the problem.
the preceding post was a great success.
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Dec 7, 2008 8:10 PM CST
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Of course he is a good QB
He’s a very talented guy. I love many things about his game.
He’s also heavily prone to chokesmanship. Answer me this: if the team is down by 6 with 2 minutes to go, and we have the ball, do you like our chances even remotely?
I sure as hell don’t.
He tends to come up with what my stepfather calls a sizeable case of loser’s limp.
Hopefully, that’ll change.
Nah, noob.
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So you think its a problem that I defend a good player?
And im pretty sure the cowboys have had their share of 4th quarter comebacks under romo.
Hell, his infamous bobbled snap was at the tail end of a drive to go ahead late in the 4th in a playoff game.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on
Dec 7, 2008 8:21 PM CST
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games decided late in the 4th quarter in the last 2 seasons
giants: TD with 3:00 left to ice game
buffalo: Td with 20 seconds left to get close, field goal drive to win
detroit: TD with 18 seconds left to win
philly: lost
philly: TD with 4:35 to go ahead
washington: lost on a failed onside kick after romo threw a TD at 1:42 to get within 2.
arizona: TD and field goal drives with 2 minutes left to tie game, then broke finger in overtime before blocked punt to lose
washington: 5+ minute drive to ice game and run out the clock.
pittsburgh: lost game with interception and failed drive at end.
dear god, what a horrible track record.
the preceding post was a great success.
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oh and another stat
4th quarter interceptions this season through weak 12: zero.
the preceding post was a great success.
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you see, this post was in response to saying he doesnt want him late in games
not playoff games. which i previously addressed. romo doesnt have a good playoff record, but 2 games, in neither of which he was the real cause of the loss, is not enough to condemn him as someone who cant perform in the playoffs.
seriously, there are a LOT of qbs with superbowl rings who went more than 0-2 in the playoffs to start their careers.
the preceding post was a great success.
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3-8 dec/jan
on playoff-caliber cowboys teams.
i think that sucks.
if it’s not his fault, then it’s a crappy coincidence.
i don’t think that anybody realistically thinks that he is not good. similarly, i am hopefully optimistic that nobody actually thinks he’s great.
he’s a starting qb in the nfl. of course he’s good. beyond that, we can only speculate about his potential b/c he hasn’t proved anything to me.
in related news – i’m not sure if you guys knew this, but we have roy freakin’ williams at receiver now, too. you wouldn’t know it from watching. when do we see this guy???
by sam in so cal on
Dec 7, 2008 8:47 PM CST
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Peyton
took how long to win his first playoff game?
Came into the league in the ’98 season and won his first playoff game in the 2003 season.
Didn’t win a Super Bowl till the 2006 season.
Romo will be fine.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on
Dec 7, 2008 8:48 PM CST
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that's a fair comparison...
you are implying that the colts teams he was losing on are as good as the recent cowboy teams – which is wrong.
the colts SUCKED his first few years.
they made the playoffs, and he looked horrible against the jets 2002.
2003 he went 2-1 in the playoffs.
they went 1-1 in 2004 playoffs (losing to new england for 2nd straight year).
you may be the first to compare tony romo to peyton manning, but i think we see that romo is failing to follow in those footsteps.
by sam in so cal on
Dec 7, 2008 9:04 PM CST
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No
I’m just saying great QB’s don’t always win right away.
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on
Dec 7, 2008 9:07 PM CST
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what are you talking about
peyton had an amazing team his second year and third year (where he absolutely sucked)
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 11:28 PM CST
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A few things
First, I guess I need to repeat this: I think Romo is a very good qb.
Second, you really should google you some Danny White. I stand behind it as a very apt comparison.
Third, you giving him credit for “icing” the Wash game is ridiculous. He didn’t even throw the ball on that drive. And I don’t want to debate this again, b/c I’ve already read your stance, but not putting any blame on him for the Arizona game is something that baffles me as well. Agree to disagree there.
Fourth, we have 6-7 pro bowlers not including Romo on offense. He has more weapons than the terminator.
Fifth, sam stole my point about Mr. November, which I think has a good deal to do with that fat slob we have as a head coach, but still doesn’t reflect well on him.
And finally, I’ll repeat this again: I’m not contending that he won’t get it together eventually. Many have, and many haven’t.
This season is hard to judge with the injury (and injuries to others) and all, but he doesn’t look to have made any progress from last year’s meltdown. Do you feel he has matured as a QB; that the 08 Romo is better than the 07 version?
Nah, noob.
by Brian Thomas on
Dec 7, 2008 8:59 PM CST
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first- uh, i made no suggestion you said anything otherwise since that post. but thanks for the reminder. the only football point i directly disagreed with you on was the 4th quarter comebacks, which you didnt actually address in this post beyond one nitpick. also didnt reply to the one other thing ive said to you, whats wrong with defending a good player? You won’t find me saying hes the best QB in the nfl or something.
2nd – k….
3rd- Technically he did throw a pass, a dump off to barber for 26 yards, but ok, yes he wasnt a major factor in that one so strike that game if you wish.
But by the same token some of the games he lost wern’t his fault, and that that still leaves several 4th quarter comebacks and key drives. I still contend hes been just fine in most close & late 4th quarter situations.
4th- In a not so strange coincidence, so do most of the QBs considered good by the public.
5th – Dont you mean mr late august, september, october, and november?
What about romo makes you think december struggles thus far are who he is and not just how things have thus far played out. Does it really seem like he cracks under pressure to you? Ive already said he hasnt been great in the playoffs so far, but with a fairly small sample size Im not contributing that to some problem in his game.
On the flipside, if he does go on a great run here and carry the cowboys deep into the playoffs, I wont be saying he made a huge step forward in his game. Im obviously not a believer in any of these qbs being “mr december”. Not every good qb can win every year. If brady comes back next year and loses in the first round of the playoffs for a couple years in a row im not going to then decide he has lost his playoff ability.
6th – K..
SUMMARY: The bottom line here is that you read everything into his late season struggles thus far, and I dont care all that much.
Now, back to the only thing I ever actually asked you: Whats wrong with me defending romo. You took issue with me, not the other way around so why are you posting so defensively.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on
Dec 7, 2008 9:46 PM CST
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I have no problem with defending a good player
I said you made excuses for him, like when you said it was ALL the OL’s fault in the AZ game. But you haven’t really done that for this game, so maybe I was generalizing too much.
One of the problems with these boards is how hard it is to assess someone’s tone. If I came across as defensive, it was unintentional. I meant no rancor.
Romo has a QB rating 30 points lower than his average in Dec./Jan, and 50 points lower than November. I think he’s played enough games, with enough talent around him, to believe that’s a problem.
Don’t you?
Nah, noob.
by Brian Thomas on
Dec 8, 2008 9:19 AM CST
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I don't lack perspective....
I’m just worried he may be the another Danny White. Stats aren’t everything.
by lildrummerboy on
Dec 7, 2008 8:20 PM CST
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Explain to me how tony romo is "money for the home team" in road games.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on
Dec 7, 2008 8:21 PM CST
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I typed that as soon as the game was over. no evidence to back it up. just pissed.
by lildrummerboy on
Dec 7, 2008 8:25 PM CST
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um no
NY will get a bye
IF dallas makes the playoffs the won’t make it to ny in the 2nd week.
by sam in so cal on
Dec 7, 2008 6:42 PM CST
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first game all year romo deserves the criticism
though I still want to know what was up with he and witten constantly screwing up.
its not that surprising to lose to pitt, but they way in happened in the 4th was obviously… horrible.
well, at least atlanta losing keeps the playoffs alive, but its going to take some great performances.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on
Dec 7, 2008 6:37 PM CST
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it looked like the last two throws were on witten
which is just odd to say the least. what was he doing?
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:38 PM CST
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yeah
this loss hurts don’t get me wrong, but it’s not as bad as atlanta’s loss was today.
Gotta go 3-1 now though right?
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on
Dec 7, 2008 6:38 PM CST
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is that enough?
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on
Dec 7, 2008 6:39 PM CST
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