Rangers, Tigers making "significant progress" on Laird trade
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 7, 2008 9:36 PM CST
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The Detroit Free Press says that the Rangers and Tigers are making "significant progress" on a deal that would send Gerald Laird to the Tigers for 25 year old pitching prospect Guillermo Moscoso, although it says it isn't known if Detroit would add anyone to the deal.
If, in fact, Homer Bailey has been dealt by the Reds, it seems like a Laird to Detroit trade may well be imminent.
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moscoso in DWL
has over an 8.81 ERA and over a 2.2 whip in 14 ip.
I would hope there would be someone else good in this deal.
Wait 'til the year after next
by NothinG on Dec 7, 2008 9:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I really don't think..
…14 IP in the DWL should carry much weight.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 7, 2008 9:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
is he projected as a reliever or starter
his k/9 is pretty good with a nice batting average against. Where would you say he would slot in with our current prospects
Wait 'til the year after next
by NothinG on Dec 7, 2008 9:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i would say somewhere in the 22-28 range
looks to me about like thomas diamond without as much potential. probably closer to 28 than 22
by dustinvandeman on Dec 7, 2008 9:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't think that would be
enough for laird. the 900th best prospect in baseball or so based on averages
Wait 'til the year after next
by NothinG on Dec 7, 2008 9:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
real travesty
is that we’d be giving up five tools for one. which i dont like, especially since we play in a division where tools are so critical.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Dec 7, 2008 11:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Venezualen Winter League
and 8.36 ERA
Wait 'til the year after next
by NothinG on Dec 7, 2008 9:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If it is ...
it had damned well better be for more than Moscoso.
by Athos on Dec 7, 2008 9:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
Laird’s not exactly the bee’s knees, but I’d hope he would fetch more than a 25 year old who spent most of last season in A+ ball.
by LiamP on Dec 7, 2008 9:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I read on the Tigers' blog
That for a while the Tigers were apprehensive about dealing him because of the belief that he could reach the major leagues this year.
by venturafearsnolan on Dec 7, 2008 10:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Moscoso
Says he’s 6’1" and 160.
I’d rather get Homer for Laird, even if we added to it…
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Dec 7, 2008 9:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Forgot to link.
And nothing against his height per se. I’d just rather get Homer into this system.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Dec 7, 2008 9:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would too but...
What else would it take for the Reds.
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on Dec 7, 2008 9:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
im happy with a trade for
Moscocso + a player or two, i really like the numbers he put up… If we get a half way decent prospect or two with him id be fine with it.
by blalock84 on Dec 7, 2008 9:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yuck
Can’t they get more than that for Laird? Geez.
I propose a 5-year moratorium on trading any young Ranger pitchers who throw over 90 mph.
by Ajax68 on Dec 7, 2008 9:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This place hacks at Laird at every opportunity...
But when he’s trade bait, he’s Johnny Bench.
meet me at the mawwl... it's goin dowwn...
by oc on Dec 7, 2008 9:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of average catchers have gotten decent trade returns
Just because a lot of people are anxious to play higher ceiling young guys doesnt mean we think laird isnt worth anything at all. I bsahed laird all the time but I dont think he just outright sucks or anything. I think hed be a great backup if he didnt have the attitude, or an acceptable starter if we didnt happen to have salty/teagarden.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Dec 7, 2008 9:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
I was hoping for a deal with the Reds, that’s all.
I propose a 5-year moratorium on trading any young Ranger pitchers who throw over 90 mph.
by Ajax68 on Dec 8, 2008 4:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we should get johnny cueto of the reds. look him up he bad ass. 22 years old dominican republic. rookie season 4.81 era, 158 k’s in 174 ip.
by rangerfan on Dec 7, 2008 9:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And just how do you propose the Rangers
Go about doing that?
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on Dec 7, 2008 9:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sacrifice a chicken to the baseball gods
Wait 'til the year after next
by NothinG on Dec 7, 2008 10:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
many, many chickens
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
4.81 ERA? LOL
ur to blind to see that larid is too good for that. Danals is idoit if he makes deal for taht spaer.
I saywe talk to the yankees about this joba chalebrain guy. they need a catcher and we need pithing! DUH LOL
COMENT BAEK IF U AGRE
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by Maximilian on Dec 8, 2008 1:05 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Heh
"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL
by lonestarJon on Dec 8, 2008 1:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude.....
A 12 year old girl is using your account and posting here on LSB.
No adult male would spell this bad.
i like baseball too
by bspate on Dec 8, 2008 8:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Psst
Self-gifting suggestion for this christmas:
"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL
by lonestarJon on Dec 8, 2008 9:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Moscoso
Low 90s fastball with lots of movement, he’s been up to 94 mph, slurvy breaking ball, and a changeup
Has had TJ surgery. Is 24 years old in Double A.
Around 9 K/9 and 5 K/BB. Is somewhat of a fastball pitcher and can be prone to the flyball.
Honestly think someone else would have to be a part of the deal to make me happy.
In Smoak We Trust
by Smoak Some on Dec 7, 2008 9:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
I like what you just wrote about him.
and apparently another arm is included in the deal.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Dec 8, 2008 12:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Moscoso
doesn’t really get my baseball pants goin…
I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 7, 2008 9:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
FWIW
Moscoso just turned 25 last month.
Not that I’m a big Armando Galarraga believer, but he spent his age 24 season at the same levels that Moscoso did, and his results weren’t nearly as impressive.
That said, I’d like to see the Rangers get another prospect thrown in, even if it’s a high-risk/high-reward type who’s still in A-ball.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
by RCCook on Dec 7, 2008 9:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
galarraga
wont be too good next year either
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in your boat
I feel he careered in 08….yeah he careered at the highest level imaginable, but no less still careered. I’m about to hit POST with the fear this is going to come back and bite me……..
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on Dec 7, 2008 10:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
meh
it’s okay if it happens. nats or reds must not be willing to part with much…
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2008 9:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
jarod burton lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 10:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not here
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2008/8/7/588759/detroit-tigers-top-20-pros
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 9:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That was a 2007 list being reviews
Must have been left off mainly due to TJ surgery
In Smoak We Trust
by Smoak Some on Dec 7, 2008 9:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and most of those are rated with a C
Wait 'til the year after next
by NothinG on Dec 7, 2008 9:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That is also...
…the list from last year.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 7, 2008 9:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dye or his agent havnt heard of any trade yet per MLBTR
Not that that means theres no deal.
Ill be very interested to see the final result of the laird trade, I do think it goes down early this week if not tomorrow.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Dec 7, 2008 9:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Chicago Tribune
reports that the White Sox are denying the Dye-for-Bailey rumors.
by Snark on Dec 7, 2008 9:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is Moscoso just decent enough of a prospect
for the Rangers to claim with a straight face that they didn’t trade Laird to clear his salary?
by Snark on Dec 7, 2008 9:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
who is suggesting that
they’re trading Laird to lower the payroll?
by Randy Richardson on Dec 7, 2008 10:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was largely being facetious
but for what it’s worth, T.R. Sullivan suggeste as much, and Evan Grant also
implied it by way of negation, noting, “Rangers general manager Jon Daniels said the club has not been given a directive to significantly cut payroll, but he acknowledged the team could make a deal or two that would look that way.”
by Snark on Dec 7, 2008 10:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Moscoso sounds like a secondary player to me.
Maybe Moscoso and Iorg would be worthwhile. I’d even be happy with two TJ guys in Moscoso and Crosby. I don’t see Moscoso alone being the winning bid for Laird when there are a few teams known to be looking hard at him.
Go Rangers!
by rooster on Dec 7, 2008 10:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Tigers aren't giving up Crosby
In Smoak We Trust
by Smoak Some on Dec 7, 2008 10:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is he has
a great K per 9, falling BB/9, made the jump from A+ to AA and gained K per 9.
Seems like a back end of bullpen prospect that might flesh out AA/AAA bullpen
Would be a nice 2nd piece
by laxtonto on Dec 7, 2008 10:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think Evan Grant posted something along the lines that the Rangers
could trade Laird right now if they were willing to take a mid-level pitching prospect. Interesting how Moscoso’s name popped up within a day of that report.
Go Rangers!
by rooster on Dec 7, 2008 10:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Laird will play everyday in Detroit, and Moscoso becomes another Hamburger / Jones / Laughter type only older.
And the real funny part is… this could be the only trade we make this off-season!
AHAHAHAHAHA!.
meet me at the mawwl... it's goin dowwn...
by oc on Dec 7, 2008 10:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
this is bs. rangers should get someone thats at least halfway decent. like q claton kershaw jk. but seriously someone like jonathoan sanchez or so.
by rangerfan on Dec 7, 2008 10:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Moscoso
maybe he’s okay…from BA
Aside from Rick Porcello and Casey Crosby, the lesser-known Moscoso may have the highest ceiling of any starter in the system. He had shoulder surgery in 2005 and missed the first six weeks in 2008 with shoulder soreness. When healthy, he threw a perfect game at short-season Oneonta in 2007 and flourished en route to Double-A last season.
Strengths: Moscoso has a quick arm and a fastball that reaches 91-92 mph with late riding action that makes it a swing-and-miss pitch. He can also use his fastball to handcuff hitters and force easy popouts. His delivery has some deception and hitters have trouble reading his pitches. He’s aggressive in the strike zone and confident on the mound.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2008 10:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The nappy hair is kinda cool.
meet me at the mawwl... it's goin dowwn...
by oc on Dec 7, 2008 10:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Short arming?
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on Dec 7, 2008 10:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a moron, not for le oc
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on Dec 7, 2008 10:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You agree however, that the nappy hair is sexy.
meet me at the mawwl... it's goin dowwn...
by oc on Dec 7, 2008 10:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I call that "Big League Hair"
BLH is when you have a flip out the back OR you have hair that sticks out the side of yuor hat, over your ears (see LIza Minelli in Arthur)……..and you’re right, it is sexy.
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on Dec 7, 2008 10:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you've said nappy hair twice now
and it’s equally offensive each time, please refrain from future use
by studcrackers on Dec 8, 2008 1:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously??
Or I am I missing the sarcasm here?
Get a life if you’re serious. This PC world that you want to live in needs to stop somewhere. If he has an opinion that it’s nappy then so be it.
If I missed the sarcasm, disregard the rant please.
by Chris Hanes on Dec 8, 2008 6:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been gone for awhile
is this tool Steal Home v 3?
blogs.usd.edu/usddems
by FirebatM3 on Dec 7, 2008 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
where have youbeen dawg?
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2008 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Studies + Med School Apps + Coaching
hectic times.
All I’ve been doing is voting on the community prospect things.
by FirebatM3 on Dec 7, 2008 10:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bat my man...
I am with you on the finals thing….
School has been a little to hectic this semester….
Have you started on your draft scouting yet? I think I am going to try to catch Purke at some point this Spring…
by laxtonto on Dec 7, 2008 10:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think
I’ll start once debate (which is what I coach) is over. My next semester is very, very lax and as long as I get a few interviews for Med School, I should be fine.
There are few baseball hotbeds in the Midwest, but I think I’ll go to a Mizzou game sometime this year.
by FirebatM3 on Dec 7, 2008 10:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet...
If I don’t catch Purke, I have a few freinds I know that live in Houston that I will see can get some Video on him. If so, ill send it your way…
Man i love the early draft scouting,,,
That and the Draft Day threads were a blast
by laxtonto on Dec 7, 2008 10:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
SH is going by steveoo these days, which is at least version 6 (7 if you count the second SH name he made).
"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL
by lonestarJon on Dec 7, 2008 10:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
Rangersfan manages to retain steal home’s poor command of english and adds the extra wrinkle of insane trade expectations.
by LiamP on Dec 7, 2008 10:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Insane expectations
were always a part of SH’s game, I thought.
by FirebatM3 on Dec 7, 2008 10:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily.
He just wanted pitching no matter what.
by LiamP on Dec 7, 2008 10:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you applying...
…to Texas med schools?
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 7, 2008 11:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i would think we could get someone better
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 10:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Is Laird good?
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2008 10:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
heh well i just holding out for burton
but its moving him that matters lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 10:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Look at it this way
This kid is better than people are realizing. He has some control issues, but he misses bats. His stuff is legit. Now, will he ever get it? Probably not. But think about it this way: Is Laird really a starting catcher? What do you really expect in return?
This move, assuming it goes down as it stands now (which it probably won’t), has benefits beyond the player(s) coming back in return.
by jparks77 on Dec 7, 2008 10:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and if he is considered a BP guy
then he could arrive in sept.
by Goyogringo on Dec 7, 2008 10:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If he is considered a BP guy...
…he could arrive in April…
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 7, 2008 10:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think
a lot of us are unfairly biased against age.
If this guy had lower K/9 but is, say, Mark Hamburger’s age, I think there’d be a lot less complaints about him.
The way I see it, age can be an advantage in this case as it means that he’s more likely to be ready soon. Not only that, but given his injury time, there’s a significant chance that he has a lot higher ceiling than your regular 25 year old.
by FirebatM3 on Dec 7, 2008 10:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well, unless your Hamburger,
who will be 22 in his first full season at A ball…
by Goyogringo on Dec 7, 2008 11:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Despite the control issues he is having in the Winter Leagues, his splits last season were really, really good. The kid can throw the ball over the plate and still miss bats.
A potential major league reliever that can keep runners off base and strike guys out would be an excellent return for Laird.
by jparks77 on Dec 7, 2008 10:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is this guy a reliever though?
Do we assume that because of his age? Because of his K/9?
The thing is, the article attributes his struggles to being forced to come out of the pen. Is there a particular reason why we view him as a BP guy and not a rotation guy?
by FirebatM3 on Dec 7, 2008 10:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I assume he's a reliever because he hasn't thrown more than 70 innings yet.
meet me at the mawwl... it's goin dowwn...
by oc on Dec 7, 2008 11:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hi missed half of 05 and half 06
due to his injury. 07 was a year in which they limited his innings I would imagine. the thing that worries me (and would justify getting a pretty good lower level prospect) is that he missed the first 6 weeks of 08 with shoulder soreness. So his injury history suggests that the bullpen is the best for him…
by Goyogringo on Dec 7, 2008 11:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not sure why he entered
pro ball so late though…
by Goyogringo on Dec 7, 2008 11:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If his K/9...
is that good and his fastball usually sits in the 91-93 range his other stuff must be pretty good.
I think they should try and put him in the Frisco rotation though. Would he be a ’pen guy or a starter?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Dec 7, 2008 10:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it seems to be the nature of his fastball
and not his secondary stuff that makes him ni’gh unhittable
by Goyogringo on Dec 7, 2008 11:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cutter or 2 seamer perhaps?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Dec 7, 2008 11:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this is a good point
he has legit stuff, thats whats important
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 7, 2008 10:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1 on this
This move, assuming it goes down as it stands now (which it probably won’t), has benefits beyond the player(s) coming back in return.
I also think Laird’s lousy second half hurt his value more than any of us initially thought. We might be lucky to be getting one of the best arms among Detroit’s rag-tag ensamble, who knows.
"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL
by lonestarJon on Dec 7, 2008 11:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
MLBTR has a Link from Rosenthal saying it's done...
Moscoso and a second prospect…
by N41D on Dec 7, 2008 11:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Source: Tigers acquire catcher Laird from Rangers by Ken Rosenthal
The Detroit Tigers have filled one of their prime offseason needs, acquiring catcher Gerald Laird from the Rangers for Double-A right-hander Guillermo Moscoso and a second prospect, according to a major-league source.
The deal, to be announced Monday, figures to end any chance of the Tigers signing free-agent catcher Jason Varitek, who declined salary arbitration from the Red Sox on Sunday night.
Laird, a strong defensive catcher, is a .255 career hitter with a .306 on-base percentage. He earned $1.6 million last season in his first year of arbitration, and is two years from free agency.
The Tigers also are seeking an inexpensive solution at shortstop, a position in which they are considering free agents Adam Everett and Nick Punto, with Everett the apparent preference.
Moscoso, 25, was 2-3 with a 2.42 ERA at Single-A Lakeland last season and 3-1 with a 3.12 ERA at Double-A Erie, striking out 122 and walking only 21 in 86 2/3 innings.
The second prospect in the deal is a 17-year-old who spent last season in the Dominican Summer League, the source said
by laxtonto on Dec 7, 2008 11:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
moscoso
hmm i guess that’s ok. was expecting a tad more but whatever.
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 11:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ok.... heres a list i got from the Detriot guys of all the 17 year olds...
Position Players:
Domingo Gonzales http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35764
Samuel Ortiz http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35866
Ricardo Olivo http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35762
Pitchers:
Carlos Melo http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35991
Emmaneul Del Orbe http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35906
Melvin Mercedez http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35821
Yinio Calderon http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=36041
Ariel Medina http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35819
they also had a 16 year old who is now 17 and put up dam nice numbers (for whatever DSL numbers are worth…)
Rayni Guichardo http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35988
by laxtonto on Dec 7, 2008 11:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Only on a baseball site can you talk about 17 year olds
without having to think about the cops.
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by AirJordan on Dec 7, 2008 11:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ricardo olivo isn't 17
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Dec 8, 2008 12:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
has this been posted?
Detroit officials had been reluctant to move Moscoso, because he’s believed to be close to reaching the majors
http://www.freep.com/article/20081207/SPORTS02/81207045/1050/rss15
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Dec 7, 2008 11:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The freep link has now updated
to elaborate on the 17-year old as a “pitcher from the Dominican Republic”
by Telegraph on Dec 8, 2008 12:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap.
Some serious knee-jerking going on at the Freep story.
"WELL BOYS, THERE GOES OUR SEASON!!! IF INGE WOULD HAVE JUST PLAYED CATCHER WE WOULDNT HAVE HAD TO TRADE ONE OF OUR ONLY DECENT PITCHING PROSPECTS FOR A WEAK HITTING CATCHER!!!!
WE ALREADY HAD A WEAK HITTING CATCHER NAMED INGE!!!"
Ladies and gentlemen, the poetry of polancofan.
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by ghtd36 on Dec 8, 2008 12:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well
it’s nice to see that people were high on him
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Dec 8, 2008 12:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I'm also reading troubling things on other sites.
Like from Motown Baseball forums:
Moscoso in Texas might just get ugly…..a pitcher with flyball tendancies that has a propensity for pitching up in the zone, in that ball park….not something I’d like to see if I’m a Ranger fan.
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by ghtd36 on Dec 8, 2008 12:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
heh one of them said laird will bring "professionalism" to their catcher position
not the word I’d use for laird.
anyway personally I dont care much about where a guy throws in the zone anymore, its not like our parade of sinkerballers has been doing real well. ignore the ballpark and get the best pitcher you can. If moscoso was the best we could get for laird, so be it.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Dec 8, 2008 12:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
heh...comment from mlbtr
Interesting how the Rangers dealing a catcher effectively ups the price on the others they have.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Dec 8, 2008 12:05 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well, this is a good start
i expect a jon sanchez trade tomorrow.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Dec 8, 2008 12:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
for who?
i havnt been in tune to the last 24 hours of speculation.
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by DSheppard on Dec 8, 2008 12:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not going to happen tomorrow
Word has it the Giants are looking at Blalock (think there’s a link in the fanshots) but that’s a long, long way from Jonathan Sanchez.
"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL
by lonestarJon on Dec 8, 2008 12:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats what I was guessing based on the matchup
I just can’t see blalock getting much with only 1 year left, doubts about being able to play 3rd in addition to injuries, and his huge home/road splits even when he is playing well.
With the return I expect he’d get, the only way I’d bother trading him is if they are willing to commit to Max DH’ing before things get too crowded with smoak and such so they can get a good mlb look at max.. and maybe use the blalock payroll for something else. Unless of course some team is crazy enough to give a lot. Or some creative package deal.
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by DSheppard on Dec 8, 2008 12:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so
this seems like a fairly reasonable standard for catcher trades. this is a mid level pitching prospect who is knocking on the mlb door for a catcher that is basically a cut above backup (as the rest of the league sees him).
salty should definitely get you a major league ready talent who is closer to top prospect status.
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Dec 8, 2008 12:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Melo it is
Melo, a right hander from the Dominican Republic, has not pitched in the United States, but he is known for an electric fastball that averages well over 90 miles per hour
http://www.freep.com/article/20081207/SPORTS02/81207045/1050/rss15
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Dec 8, 2008 12:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Electric fastball?
Awesome! Ever since the Rangers let Wright walk without offering arbitration, we’ve been in need of a new electrician.
by Inkara1 on Dec 8, 2008 1:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
+1
"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL
by lonestarJon on Dec 8, 2008 3:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This clears a spot on the 40
so we got that going for us
by BEW on Dec 8, 2008 12:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
nope
moscoso is on the 40
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Dec 8, 2008 12:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, your right. I just saw that on freep.
by BEW on Dec 8, 2008 12:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what freep article are you reading?
i only saw it on this:
http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/team/roster_40man.jsp?c_id=det
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
by ab03 on Dec 8, 2008 12:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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