Laird to Tigers a Done Deal

by philkid3 on Dec 7, 2008 11:43 PM CST Comment 43 comments

Here's what MLB Trade Rumors has to say:

11:27pm: Ken Rosenthal says the Tigers acquired Laird for Moscoso and a second prospect. The second prospect "is a 17-year-old who spent last season in the Dominican Summer League." The deal will be announced Monday. Laird, a Scott Boras client, is under team control through 2010.

Rosenthal adds that the Tigers are considering Adam Everett and Nick Punto as shortstop options.

12:12am: Morosi says an agreement has been reached, and the second prospect is a pitcher.

I don't actually know anything about Moscoso, so I don't know what to think. I let myself believe we'd get better return for Laird, but whatever.

The real question? Where does he fit in the community prospect rankings?

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Ding dong

The Laird is gone!

"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL

by lonestarJon on Dec 7, 2008 11:46 PM CST reply actions 2 recs

And...

hopefully, crosses fingers, Salty is right behind him.

by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 8, 2008 12:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Full list of the 17 year olds that played in the DSL Tigers...

Position Players:
Domingo Gonzales http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35764
Samuel Ortiz http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35866
Ricardo Olivo http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35762

Pitchers:
Carlos Melo http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35991
Emmaneul Del Orbe http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35906
Melvin Mercedez http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35821
Yinio Calderon http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=36041
Ariel Medina http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35819

they also had a 16 year old who is now 17 and put up dam nice numbers (for whatever DSL numbers are worth…)
Rayni Guichardo http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35988

by laxtonto on Dec 7, 2008 11:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

i really think

its either Melo or Guichardo…. He turned 17 during the year

by blalock84 on Dec 7, 2008 11:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I just spent the last 15 mins researching those guys

My order of preference (not like it matters given how far away all these guys are) would be Guichardo, Melo, and Gonzales. Moscoso and a magic bean certainly is a reasonable return for Laird, I think.

by naropean on Dec 8, 2008 12:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Should I be mad?

I don’t even know what to think. But I feel like we’ve gotten screwed for some reason.

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by utlonghorn24 on Dec 8, 2008 12:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

yes and no

UT football = screwed and Laird to tigers = not screwed

by Chow Time on Dec 8, 2008 12:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Haha, nice.

But as far as the Laird deal goes, what do you base the value of the trade on? As in, what makes this a good deal?

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by utlonghorn24 on Dec 8, 2008 12:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i almost look at it as addition by subtraction

I think Laird needed to go so the younger guys can all get playing time. Plus JD got 2 pitchers for him. Granted Moscoso is old for A and AA, but he did strike out a lot of those little kids. That will give Maddux another project to work on. And who knows, this 17 yo might be a nice throw in 5 years from now.

by Chow Time on Dec 8, 2008 12:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Granted Moscoso is old for A and AA, but he did strike out a lot of those little kids.

awesome

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 8, 2008 12:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

horrid trade!!

25 y/o from AA ???

that 17 y/o better have engel beltre upside!

one second thought, we should’ve asked for armando back.

by Aneel on Dec 8, 2008 12:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

if you think galarraga is going to be good this year

your mistaken

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 8, 2008 12:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

on*

by Aneel on Dec 8, 2008 12:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Per Dickie D on the DMN Blog it states the second piece is a PITCHER

Freddie King rules faces.

by Ryin A on Dec 8, 2008 12:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

anagram

You know, your posting name is an anagram of “Rayni” as in Rayni Guichardo. Perhaps a sign?

by naropean on Dec 8, 2008 12:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah? it's also anagram for "rainy"

and yours is an anagram for “nano rape”

What’s your point?

by Telegraph on Dec 8, 2008 12:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

that letters are more fun than tea leaves

by naropean on Dec 8, 2008 12:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Nano rape?

If you can fit your Johnson into one of the orifices on a small iPod… well, more power to you, I guess.

by Inkara1 on Dec 8, 2008 1:40 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Moscoso actually has some decent numbers.

But he’s OLD.

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by philkid3 on Dec 8, 2008 12:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

decent

he had really good numbers, but yea, he’s a little old. Alot of that is due to fact that he was hurt. He’s been really effective every time he’s been healthy

by blalock84 on Dec 8, 2008 12:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

My thoughts.

Moscoso is a nice piece, and probably about as major-league ready as the Rangers were going to get for Laird. He’s got some sexy peripherals (122 SOs, 21 BBs in 86.2 IP split between A and AA last season), plus an acceptable BABIP hanging around .300. Yeah, he’s a little old for a prospect, but overall, I think it’s a decent deal.

As I read in another thread, Moscoso and a magic bean is a nice deal for Laird.

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by ghtd36 on Dec 8, 2008 12:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

You know, he almost seems like the Tigers’ version of Thomas Diamond.

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by lonestarJon on Dec 8, 2008 12:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Except that he has decent numbers

by Telegraph on Dec 8, 2008 12:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

40 trumps all

Is Moscoso on Detroit’s 40 man roster? If not, is he Rule V elegible?

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by chrisR on Dec 8, 2008 12:26 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

The real question:

Where does Moscoso go on our community project?!

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by philkid3 on Dec 8, 2008 12:31 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Let's put it this way:

I want to re-cast my vote for No. 1.

Kidding, of course.

by ghtd36 on Dec 8, 2008 12:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Moscoso on 40

Yes he is on the 40 man roster, making this trade a 1 for 1 switch, as far as the 40 is concerned.

Depending on how good the 2nd prospect is… I think this may be an ok trade. The big thing is that the young catchers now have playing time.

Moscoso is the Tigers #10 prospect. Where would Moscoso be ranked in the Ranger’s System?

by lcspider4 on Dec 8, 2008 12:31 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I haven't a clue.

But at a glance, I think there’s a chance I would have voted for him a poll or two ago.

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by philkid3 on Dec 8, 2008 12:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

+1

Seems like he’d fit in nicely somewhere between Poveda/Ross and Hunter/Diamond.

by naropean on Dec 8, 2008 12:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

yea

id say right around 20 or so

by blalock84 on Dec 8, 2008 12:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

maybe 15-20 range?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 8, 2008 12:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

A fond farewell...

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by rangers85 on Dec 8, 2008 1:20 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I think we need to send our Gerald Laird archives

To the folks over at Bless You Boys.

Guess I’ll never get to actually use this in a GDT:

"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL

by lonestarJon on Dec 8, 2008 3:01 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

definitely

need to pass these along.

by blalock84 on Dec 8, 2008 3:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

OMFT

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by Gdawg on Dec 8, 2008 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Oooh, nice.

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by lonestarJon on Dec 8, 2008 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I also got this one

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by Gdawg on Dec 8, 2008 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Truly epic

that is.

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by Rodney on Dec 8, 2008 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs