Laird to Tigers a Done Deal
by philkid3 on Dec 7, 2008 11:43 PM CST
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11:27pm: Ken Rosenthal says the Tigers acquired Laird for Moscoso and a second prospect. The second prospect "is a 17-year-old who spent last season in the Dominican Summer League." The deal will be announced Monday. Laird, a Scott Boras client, is under team control through 2010.
Rosenthal adds that the Tigers are considering Adam Everett and Nick Punto as shortstop options.
12:12am: Morosi says an agreement has been reached, and the second prospect is a pitcher.
I don't actually know anything about Moscoso, so I don't know what to think. I let myself believe we'd get better return for Laird, but whatever.
The real question? Where does he fit in the community prospect rankings?
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Ding dong
The Laird is gone!
"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL
by LSJ on Dec 7, 2008 11:46 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
And...
hopefully, crosses fingers, Salty is right behind him.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 8, 2008 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
Full list of the 17 year olds that played in the DSL Tigers...
Position Players:
Domingo Gonzales http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35764
Samuel Ortiz http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35866
Ricardo Olivo http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35762
Pitchers:
Carlos Melo http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35991
Emmaneul Del Orbe http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35906
Melvin Mercedez http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35821
Yinio Calderon http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=36041
Ariel Medina http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35819
they also had a 16 year old who is now 17 and put up dam nice numbers (for whatever DSL numbers are worth…)
Rayni Guichardo http://minors.baseball-reference.com….cgi?pid=35988
I just spent the last 15 mins researching those guys
My order of preference (not like it matters given how far away all these guys are) would be Guichardo, Melo, and Gonzales. Moscoso and a magic bean certainly is a reasonable return for Laird, I think.
Should I be mad?
I don’t even know what to think. But I feel like we’ve gotten screwed for some reason.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
Haha, nice.
But as far as the Laird deal goes, what do you base the value of the trade on? As in, what makes this a good deal?
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Dec 8, 2008 12:11 AM CST up reply actions
i almost look at it as addition by subtraction
I think Laird needed to go so the younger guys can all get playing time. Plus JD got 2 pitchers for him. Granted Moscoso is old for A and AA, but he did strike out a lot of those little kids. That will give Maddux another project to work on. And who knows, this 17 yo might be a nice throw in 5 years from now.
Granted Moscoso is old for A and AA, but he did strike out a lot of those little kids.
awesome
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 8, 2008 12:40 AM CST up reply actions
horrid trade!!
25 y/o from AA ???
that 17 y/o better have engel beltre upside!
one second thought, we should’ve asked for armando back.
if you think galarraga is going to be good this year
your mistaken
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 8, 2008 12:41 AM CST up reply actions
Per Dickie D on the DMN Blog it states the second piece is a PITCHER
Freddie King rules faces.
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 8, 2008 12:18 AM CST reply actions
Yeah? it's also anagram for "rainy"
and yours is an anagram for “nano rape”
What’s your point?
Nano rape?
If you can fit your Johnson into one of the orifices on a small iPod… well, more power to you, I guess.
by Inkara1 on Dec 8, 2008 1:40 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
My thoughts.
Moscoso is a nice piece, and probably about as major-league ready as the Rangers were going to get for Laird. He’s got some sexy peripherals (122 SOs, 21 BBs in 86.2 IP split between A and AA last season), plus an acceptable BABIP hanging around .300. Yeah, he’s a little old for a prospect, but overall, I think it’s a decent deal.
As I read in another thread, Moscoso and a magic bean is a nice deal for Laird.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
Yeah
You know, he almost seems like the Tigers’ version of Thomas Diamond.
"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL
40 trumps all
Is Moscoso on Detroit’s 40 man roster? If not, is he Rule V elegible?
"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland
Let's put it this way:
I want to re-cast my vote for No. 1.
Kidding, of course.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
Moscoso on 40
Yes he is on the 40 man roster, making this trade a 1 for 1 switch, as far as the 40 is concerned.
Depending on how good the 2nd prospect is… I think this may be an ok trade. The big thing is that the young catchers now have playing time.
Moscoso is the Tigers #10 prospect. Where would Moscoso be ranked in the Ranger’s System?
I haven't a clue.
But at a glance, I think there’s a chance I would have voted for him a poll or two ago.
maybe 15-20 range?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 8, 2008 12:41 AM CST up reply actions
I think we need to send our Gerald Laird archives
To the folks over at Bless You Boys.
Guess I’ll never get to actually use this in a GDT:
"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL
by LSJ on Dec 8, 2008 3:01 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Oooh, nice.
"Somewhere out there, between 14-32 BBWAA NL MVP voters are trying to get cheaper winter heating by drilling a hole in the microwave." - Jeff at LoL
Truly epic
that is.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
+1
That’s a keeper.
This is an exciting time in my life.
The LSB CPP's are in full bloom.
by inactive lsb user on Dec 9, 2008 1:16 AM CST up reply actions
terrible news
Now that laird is gone, is there anyone left who’s worthy of having “Superstar” as their song? I highly doubt that there’s anyone that’s talented enough to fill those shoes…
Laird
We once again give a known quality player away for 2 unknown,unproven players. A 25 year old with a history of arm problems and a 17 year old who we’ll probably never hear from.. Yes you could have done better JD if this trade goes down.
I'm inclined to agree with you
The Rangers love them some injured players.
The much-maligned Gerald Laird is a better player than a lot of people think.
by Black Francis on Dec 10, 2008 12:26 AM CST up reply actions
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