Huh???
by Adam J. Morris
on Dec 9, 2008 8:11 PM CST
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Mark Connor, the former Rangers' pitching coach, has been hired back by the organization as a consultant. Connor will be involved with the minor league pitching side of things helping out there. Daniels said he respected Connor and was glad to get him back.
So...Mark Connor wasn't the problem, after all?
Or he was a problem, but only on the major league level?
I'm confused.
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Wow
I’m guessing this has as lot to do with Adair leaving.
by Andy Seiler on
Dec 9, 2008 8:13 PM CST
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YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by rangers85 on
Dec 9, 2008 8:14 PM CST
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Who thought Connor would be last standing...
out of that picture?
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by rangers85 on
Dec 9, 2008 8:14 PM CST
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Kaz
What ended up happening to him?
Is he still in the system?
Gerald Laird: One Man, 5 Scoops.
by Maximilian on
Dec 9, 2008 9:27 PM CST
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A bear ate him...
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by rangers85 on
Dec 9, 2008 10:57 PM CST
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Will he ever
return from that freaking abyss he fell in?
by jonthefon on
Dec 10, 2008 4:12 AM CST
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I just don't get this move...
if he didn’t work out in the majors why would he work out any better in the minors?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on
Dec 9, 2008 8:14 PM CST
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So I'm confussed
Who fired Connors this summer? Why did they(he) hire him back? My brain hurts.
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on
Dec 9, 2008 8:15 PM CST
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The Sooner is confussed
who’d thunk it?
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Dec 9, 2008 9:37 PM CST
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consultant
well, if he does as much as consultant Hart, no biggie…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 9, 2008 8:17 PM CST
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They said all along
since the day after he got let go that they were interested in bringing him back in a diff. role for the next season.
It is depressing that they went ahead with it though. =/
by Mike E on
Dec 9, 2008 8:18 PM CST
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If that is the case then
Why fire the man just reassign him.
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on
Dec 9, 2008 8:19 PM CST
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UGH
this is almost as bad as hart still being around.
havent the rangers ever heard the police song if you love someone set them free? free free set them free
seriously, do they want the person who didnt get major league results having anything to do with the young players?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on
Dec 9, 2008 8:21 PM CST
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Hart being around
hasn’t seemed to do any harm, and the guy has had success in baseball despite his ugly Rangers tenure. I just fail to see the problem with having these guys around as consultants. They’ve had long careers in baseball for a reason.
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by t ball on
Dec 10, 2008 7:59 AM CST
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i guess the problem i have is
what did hart really do in his tenure that was worth paying him to sit around and be a consultant, the same goes for connor.
What value to they bring that is so great they can’t risk letting them work for other teams?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on
Dec 10, 2008 8:19 AM CST
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If he trys to change Neftali's arm angle,
I swear I’ll hunt that m***** f***** down and….
" He throws it where he wants it, his breaking ball kept getting better and better and of course God gave him that special arm. He's great." ~ Neftali Feliz on Derek Holland.
by Kinslerhomer on
Dec 9, 2008 8:23 PM CST
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And what?
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by oc on
Dec 9, 2008 8:50 PM CST
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let me finish that thought for the guy
…. cut his F’n nuts off and hang them from JD’s desk lamp
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Dec 9, 2008 9:39 PM CST
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That's it?
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by oc on
Dec 9, 2008 9:53 PM CST
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Frankly
I’d rather have him fucking with the ML pitchers’ careers than the prospects’.
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by Conjunction on
Dec 9, 2008 8:24 PM CST
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as long as he doesn't talk to or influence any of our pitchers
Wait 'til the year after next
by NothinG on
Dec 9, 2008 8:26 PM CST
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Nolan pitched in four decades....
…for four different organizations, and this is best person he can find for the job?!?!
by lildrummerboy on
Dec 9, 2008 8:29 PM CST
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what job is that?
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 9, 2008 8:30 PM CST
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I think we can relax a little
I don’t know that we can assume that he’s going to be hands on with anyone, much less key prospects. Consultants do lots of things, but most of them don’t involve being on the front line. Hopefully he won’t be, I guess. I’m still not sure what to make of all of the Rangers’ pitching problems.
by Brett Perryman on
Dec 9, 2008 8:34 PM CST
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Connor
To be fair, I don’t think anyone in the organization ever suggested that Connor was the problem.
by Randy Richardson on
Dec 9, 2008 8:34 PM CST
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no one said he wasnt the problem either
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Dec 9, 2008 9:41 PM CST
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I think
when you fire someone, you are saying they are part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Nolan Ryan is the Greatest Pitcher ever, because Google says so.
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by DJCahill on
Dec 10, 2008 6:29 AM CST
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I would just like to add...
It is colder than a witch’s tit outside.
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by oc on
Dec 9, 2008 8:52 PM CST
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Uh ...
are they saying they want to get the career derailing injuries out of the way at a lower level now? Otherwise, I just don’t get this move at all.
by Athos on
Dec 9, 2008 9:05 PM CST
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they think that
Sheets + Connor = healthy pitcher.
If Connor’s coaching fucks up otherwise healthy pitchers perhaps he can straighten out oft-injured pitchers……
its like reverse psychology, or two wrongs making a right, or something…….
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by red shoe ranger on
Dec 9, 2008 9:10 PM CST
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JD is that guy that likes to keep all his ex girlfriends around
Hes too nice to throw them to the curb and go bag the next chick. He has to hold onto them just incase this new chick blows him off. Then he has the safety net to crawl back in bed with later. Except, instead of chicks, he does it with old men. So IOW, I guess Conor and Hart were both good snugglers.
by Chow Time on
Dec 9, 2008 9:22 PM CST
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This is useful.
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by oc on
Dec 9, 2008 9:37 PM CST
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I confused...
"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005
by Agreen07 on
Dec 9, 2008 9:25 PM CST
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per Jamey's email
Ron Washington said Nelson Cruz will be batting fourth next year. THis is coming from the same person who said that Hamilton will bat second in 2008.
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by RangerMad on
Dec 9, 2008 9:30 PM CST
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Cruz is the perfect 'add-on' trade specimen.
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by oc on
Dec 9, 2008 9:39 PM CST
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you mean as a throw in?
i know you hate cruz, but he has some actual value after last season…
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by DSheppard on
Dec 9, 2008 9:44 PM CST
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You're right.
Sell high.
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by oc on
Dec 9, 2008 9:48 PM CST
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Actual value?
In a non contending September? That’s not actual value. That’s Robinson Tejeda. I hate this news about Cruz almost more than Connor returning. I can’t decide which makes me angrier, though.
by FuturePants on
Dec 10, 2008 9:07 AM CST
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why dont you list to me all the scrub players that had a 1.03 ops the final 5 meaningless weeks.
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by DSheppard on
Dec 10, 2008 11:18 AM CST
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looked it up
Top 15 OPS with 100 or more at bats from August 25th. 75 at bats looks about the same.
Manny Ramirez – Hall of Famer
Ryan Howard – really good player
Shin-Soo Choo – stands out, but the evidence so far is that he is in fact a good player
Andre Ethier – Good player
Albert Pujols – Hall of Famer
Christain Guzman – ? ok, thats out there.
Joey Votto – Good player
Carlos Delgado – Good player
Carlos Beltran – really good player
Nelson Cruz – woo
Hanley Ramirez – really good player
Mark Teixeira – really good player
Felipe Lopez – ? ok, another standout.
Brian Giles – had a nice season
Paul Konerko – bad season but still, hes hit 40 HRs X times.
not a bad list of players, not a ton of flukes.
now obviously players have had good 5 week runs and sucked the rest of their careers. but cruz has the natural talent and minor league numbers to back it up, and the walk rate stats I quoted above lend some credibility to why he was so much better. An approach that can be maintained. And its not like he actually has to have a 1.00 ops to be useful, good defense and a .840 ops is a very very solid player… maybe not cleanup, but if he sucks then obviously he wont stay in the cleanup spot (if he even actually does have it when the season stats).
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by DSheppard on
Dec 10, 2008 11:34 AM CST
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if he sucks then obviously he wont stay in the cleanup spot
Perhaps you aren’t familiar with our manager, Ron Washington. See also: Jamey Wright, Sammy Sosa.
by FuturePants on
Dec 10, 2008 1:23 PM CST
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Although,
in this case, I’d prefer they leave him there even if he starts slow instead of knee-jerking him out of there. Let him settle into it for a couple months before reactively making changes.
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by t ball on
Dec 10, 2008 1:55 PM CST
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Cruz is beyond a knee jerk reaction.
How many MLB at bats does he have? If he sucks for another 50, I’d give him away for a spare first baseman’s mitt. Actually, I’d do that today.
by FuturePants on
Dec 10, 2008 2:40 PM CST
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Ron Washington, please...
STFU.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on
Dec 9, 2008 11:30 PM CST
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LOL
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Tom Hicks
by LAMuscleFag on
Dec 9, 2008 11:55 PM CST
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OT: Damion James
Beast. He’s going to be a solid pro.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 9, 2008 9:34 PM CST
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welcome to the club
your a year late at least but welcome none the less.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Dec 9, 2008 9:43 PM CST
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i liked him last year too
didn’t know there was much Longhorns bball talk around here…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 9, 2008 9:43 PM CST
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2001 alumni
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Dec 9, 2008 9:50 PM CST
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Mavs and Spurs... going to overtime.
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by oc on
Dec 9, 2008 9:51 PM CST
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barea
he good now.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 9, 2008 9:53 PM CST
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Penetration... what a concept.
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by oc on
Dec 9, 2008 9:54 PM CST
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over and over and over and over and over......
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on
Dec 9, 2008 9:57 PM CST
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Who didn't see this coming?
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by oc on
Dec 9, 2008 9:58 PM CST
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Please... I'm baiting you.
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by oc on
Dec 9, 2008 9:58 PM CST
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I'll tell you who...
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by rangers85 on
Dec 9, 2008 10:59 PM CST
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:)
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by oc on
Dec 9, 2008 11:09 PM CST
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Yeah, but did he smell it ?
Neftali Feliz is not a swimmer.
by NoNameOnCard on
Dec 10, 2008 1:07 AM CST
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Popovich looks like Donald Sutherland.
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by oc on
Dec 9, 2008 9:59 PM CST
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nice kick bowen
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on
Dec 9, 2008 10:01 PM CST
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Damn
Ice in the veins of Kidd there
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on
Dec 9, 2008 10:04 PM CST
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Two huge defensive rebounds from Dirk and a clutch three from Kidd.
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by oc on
Dec 9, 2008 10:05 PM CST
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Well
atleast they showed some heart. good game, this team looks good…Kidd is been rather beastly this year as well.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 9, 2008 10:28 PM CST
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*has
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Dec 9, 2008 10:28 PM CST
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I was at the game last night
man it was great — but what a beating losing to those bastards.
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by Dirk Diggler on
Dec 10, 2008 8:13 AM CST
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Why do we treat him differently than previous pitching coaches?
I’m not excited about him being brought back, but he clearly wasn’t dramatically worse than the 4 previous pitching coaches… The talent level and injuries provided for arguably worse conditions, too
by BuckyB on
Dec 9, 2008 10:34 PM CST
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I think everyone hates him...
only because pitchers would always seem to give up a homer or big hit after he made a mound visit. More so than other coaches we’ve had.
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by rangers85 on
Dec 9, 2008 11:00 PM CST
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So...
We lose Adair to the Mariners, and gain Mark Connor back. Why couldn’t that have happened the other way around?
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by lonestarJon on
Dec 9, 2008 10:38 PM CST
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sham...
the firing was apparently a PR move at the height of the team’s pitching problems. they “sacked” connor, actually just having him throw himself on a grenade temporarily.
committed to losing since 1961…
by sam in so cal on
Dec 10, 2008 3:30 AM CST
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Shhhhhhhhhhhh, sam
You’ll ruin the fantasy.
Smile when you call me Beat Weed!
by Clueless on
Dec 11, 2008 4:04 AM CST
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It's entirely possible
that he was scapegoated, which is why I don’t get the angst over the consultant thing, but this netted the team Mike Maddux, who I like a lot more than Connor.
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by t ball on
Dec 11, 2008 9:55 AM CST
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One of the tags should be
“More things that suck”
by hiafex on
Dec 10, 2008 4:26 AM CST
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Salty for Bucholz is a done deal
Why lese would they bring back Conner? He has the perfect solution for Bucholz’s problems.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on
Dec 10, 2008 9:26 AM CST
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I think you mean...
Why [else] would they bring back Conner? He has the perfect solution for Bucholz’s problems success.
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Dec 10, 2008 10:04 AM CST
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