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Ah, Rangers news on a Saturday morning...nice, nice...

Evan Grant says that the Ian Kinsler contract talks are making progress.  Kinsler's agent expressed optimism that a 5 year deal, with an option for year 6, could be reached, which would allow the Rangers to buy out out Kinsler's first year of free agency (two years, if the option is exercised).  Grant says the deal would be in the low-20s, and would exceed $30 million if the option were exercised.

Seems likes a reasonable amount, and it would be nice to get this out of the way.

Grant also has a piece up on Kevin Mench's return.  Grant says the Rangers have made it clear he's not in the running for a starting job, and that Jason Botts or Nelson Cruz have a leg up on the backup outfielder job because they are out of options.

There seems to be a sense that getting Mench back together with Rudy Jaramillo will help him get his swing back, and Mench acknowledges that he's going to be in the minors to start the year, and seems to have accepted that.

Jim Reeves has a column up on Jon Daniels, with some interesting quotes:

"The biggest error in judgment I've made was over-evaluating how close we were," he said Friday, sitting in a golf cart under a gray Arizona sky, watching the Rangers' first workout of the spring. "I stepped on the gas and we weren't ready for it."

* * *

If his team can accomplish two things, Daniels said, then 2008 can be a success no matter what the won-loss column says.

"If we play quality baseball, like we did from June on last year, our brand of baseball, that's No. 1," Daniels said. "Second, for the long-term health of the organization, it's critical that we get some of our young big leaguers over the hump and that we're able to accelerate the development of our most talented young players, so that they become the next wave and they're on the cusp of helping us."

Others around baseball have heaped accolades on the Rangers for turning around their farm system. With so little to brag about, the Rangers' publicity machine has made sure everyone knows that they jumped from 28th to 4th in Baseball America's rankings of minor league systems, the most dramatic jump since the inside baseball publication began those rankings.

But for Daniels, that's not good enough, nor should it be.

"One of the things I really want to get across to these guys, last year was not really a successful year for the organization because we're measured by what we do at the major league level," Daniels said.

"That said, from an organizational building process, there were a lot of good things going on beneath the surface that are starting to get recognized."

What Daniels doesn't want is for his people to become complacent. The job still isn't finished and never will be.

"One year of having a well-regarded farm system doesn't mean spit at the end of the day," he said. "It's about getting those players to the big leagues and having them become winning pieces. That's production.

"What we just did is the first step. Now it has to be non-stop. We have to be relentless in talent acquisition at the minor league level and then take the next step with very successful development. We have to challenge these guys and get them to the big leagues."

Jeff Wilson has an item up on Gerald Laird and the Rangers' catching depth.

T.R. Sullivan has some notes up on the Rangers website, which includes this from Laird:

Catcher Gerald Laird is limited by a sprained ankle but still went through blocking drills and said, "You see me blocking balls? They can't hold me down. I told the doctor, 'they don't make them like me anymore.'".

I find Laird amusing.

The S-T also has some notes up, including German Duran's top 5 Fort Worth restaurants, and a mention from a Ranger official about watching Josh Hamilton take B.P.

A bit troubling is the news (which I hadn't heard before) that Hamilton suffered a "minor fracture" to his left middle finger while playing catch last month.  That's not going to help his reputation for being injury prone.

Evan Grant has some bloggy notes, with a lot of Nolan Ryan stuff, discussion of Scott Feldman's struggles, and his thoughts on the Marlon Byrd situation:

The Cubs are still snooping around on Marlon Byrd. The Rangers aren't going to part with Byrd unless they get a package that includes a pitcher and which they deem is a clear "overpay" on Chicago's part. One thing the Rangers don't want to undervalue is Byrd's place in the clubhouse balance.

But if that's the case, it's better for the Rangers to act quickly and decisively in whatever decision they make. If they are going to trade Byrd, better to move him sooner rather than later so that you don't have a shock to the clubhouse chemistry as happened when David Dellucci was traded on the cusp of the 2006 season. If they aren't going to trade Byrd, then it's important for him to know that he's going to be a part of this club and allow him to continue expanding his leadership abilities. A player in limbo doesn't do anybody any good.

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I like that quote from Daniels
"I stepped on the gas and we weren't ready for it."  It makes it seem less likely that he'll get impatient and try to hurry the current plan.

Perhaps I'm overvaluing outfield defense after some subpar years in that respect, but I'm ok with holding onto Byrd unless the deal is a slight overpay and includes an arm in addition to Murton.  

If the Rangers were contending this year and just needed a slight boost to the offense, sure, go get Murton.  But they can afford to wait and aim higher. Murton is just not going to make that big a difference, now or in the long run.  You might as well hold onto Byrd and make sure you have plenty of depth with the questionable health of two of your starting OFers.

A working class hero is something to be.

by t ball on Feb 16, 2008 9:14 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Laird
is it shtick, or is he for real?

by SteveP on Feb 16, 2008 9:19 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Laird
I was also wondering that.

You read the line from him Jamey quoted today, and it sort of settles it.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Feb 16, 2008 11:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Silly Laird
I just don't see why he thinks he's that great.  Batting: terrible, defense: decent.  I mean he's no former Rangers catcher (Pudge) or anyone halfway decent over the past 5 years.
I wonder if he has a little "book o'brags".  I think his mom told him he was special a few too many times when he was a kid.

by mcbheath on Feb 16, 2008 11:38 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1
"The only way I'd like to see Mench back is as a hotdog vendor" - jd

by lonestarJon on Feb 16, 2008 6:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Special in a short bus kind of way?
"My death certificate will probably say: 'Cause of Death: World Series.'" Jamey Newberg

by boomer1 on Feb 16, 2008 6:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+ 1
yeh Brooksie I agree 1man5stools would be a wonderful new screenname for you. If the diaper fits...

by LAMuscleFag on Feb 16, 2008 10:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hamilton
I wish they had specified how exactly he broke his finger playing.

by meatbonelefty on Feb 16, 2008 9:19 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

and find out
who he was playing catch with and sign him up.

by SteveP on Feb 16, 2008 12:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

FWST:
"Max Ramirez: Acquired from Cleveland for Kenny Lofton, Ramirez's strength is his bat.
He might have to find a new position in this organization."

Wonder if he'll get some looksee games at 3rd base for Frisco this season.

Feb. 14: Pitchers and catchers report ~ Feb. 20: First full-squad workout

by shroomer on Feb 16, 2008 9:19 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Frisco 3B
I really don't know who'll be out there.

Which I guess shows what the org thinks of Whittleman?  Just seems they're keeping it open for him to take in a couple months.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Feb 16, 2008 11:02 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like deja vu
He was reportedly really poor when the Braves tried him there earlier in his career, but I've always tended to think that he's a 1B/3B/C/DH type that warrants a lot of ABs but doesn't help you anywhere defensively, just sort of passes.

by Brett Perryman on Feb 16, 2008 4:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Would these be acceptable numbers
from Marlon Byrd?  .273/.334/.394   OPS+ 92  

They are his ML career numbers. I don't think he will make them in 2008. JD, sell high!

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by RangerMad on Feb 16, 2008 9:37 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Good Gawd!
Finally, a full on, in your face, cornicopia of linkiliciousness....all about the friggin' Rangers!!!

I now know the meaning of "so happy I could cry".

Thank you.

...it's the weekend, so why the hell not?

by Rodney on Feb 16, 2008 9:41 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

MJH - Future is [almost] here
Looks at the odds of the young NRI's breaking camp -
http://rangersfarmreport.mlblogs.com/rangersfarmreport/2008/02/the_future_is_h.html
Feb. 14: Pitchers and catchers report ~ Feb. 20: First full-squad workout

by shroomer on Feb 16, 2008 9:48 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Good stuff from MJH
once again. But MY to LF? I agree with what tricer posted in another thread. Blalock won't be the Rangers 3B in 2010. I think MY has a better chance of playing 3B than LF.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by RangerMad on Feb 16, 2008 11:02 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

jon daniels mea culpa
That's a nice and clever way of classifying his mistakes but of isn't entirely true. Danks for McCarthy is defensible as pushing on the gas but Eaton for Young/Agon should have never ever been made. And I think serves as an excuse for the cordero/lee deal but that's another deal that was just as good long term as it was short term.  He might have had the mindset that they were almost there but his failures haven't resulted from it. I would have been happier if he identified the problem as internal scouting and was taking steps to correct it.  At this point, he's really only corrected part of the problem

by ab03 on Feb 16, 2008 10:40 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think all of JD's move up until the beginning of
last season go under the "over-evaluating how close we were" umbrella. Even the Eaton trade. I don't see how you can say that internal scouting is a problem when the Rangers farm system has gone from virtually last to top 5 in only one year.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by RangerMad on Feb 16, 2008 11:07 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

that might have been the impetus for the trade
but the failing of the trade was that eaton was injury prone and not that great and the rangers vastly undervalued Agon and Chris Young.  On either side, if the Rangers were closer to the truth, the trade wouldn't have been made - no matter how close the Rangers thought they were to winning.  

and internal scouting i'm referring to is the inability to properly project the players you currently have.  Right now, the strength of the minor league comes from the scouts that sign and draft players.  I'd like to see better peformance in terms of brining those players along, knowing which of those guys to trade, and getting better value when we do trade.  overall, this has been the biggest failing of the club in the JD era.

by ab03 on Feb 16, 2008 11:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know what
changes have been made in the front office. But I do know that one of the biggest changes JD has done was to fire Showalter. That alone goes a long ways to correcting the "internal scouting" that you refer to above.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by RangerMad on Feb 16, 2008 11:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts exactly
Buck's influence on that first year can't be underestimated.
Proud Supporter of the Texas Rangers since 1973

by T Coleman on Feb 16, 2008 3:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.
We can beat JD up forever for what were truly bad trades. He was in charge when they happened. I do think that as a young GM he tried to appease Showalter and that was his big mistake.

by Jea103 on Feb 16, 2008 4:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I believed...
Eaton would have a breakout year.  They definately sold high on that one.  I think its similiar to the stance we have taken on Laird.  Could we have gotten an A baller who might have a shot at being a star?  Probably.  Do I think the guy is cocky because I think he will preform this year, and from his statements in ST he thinks, he can hit .300.  I think JD is holding to sell high...

by corbsclinton on Feb 16, 2008 7:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Contract year
The guy was in his contract year. The vast majority of guys in the very same position have career years or at least the high end of their career norms in that year. We did the same with Padilla. Traded a guy we had under control for awhile longer for Padilla who was in a contract year. He put up 15 wins and was exactly what we hoped for.

Had Eaton not gotten hurt and put up 12-15 wins nobody would be complaining. Why? Because even without Eaton we were within 2 games of 1st place at the deadline. Which is why we traded for Lee. Had Eaton been healthy and performed to the standard we expected in a contract year we could have been a few games up in the division and had a shot at the playoffs.

If the trade would have been Padilla for Young instead of Eaton for Young people wouldn't be all up in a frenzy. But because the guy got hurt in a freak injury right before the season started people want to throw JD under the bus. Sure tossing in Gonzalez in the deal sucks but he had no position on this club. But JD made the right deal for the circumstances he was under. An owner who wanted to win now and a manager who had more power than the GM did.

by Steven on Feb 17, 2008 12:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Contract year is a myth
supported only by anecdotal evidence.

The SD trade sucked, it was not the right deal for the circumstances.  You could say that about the Soriano trade, maybe, but the SD trade sucks in every way possible, and sucked the day it happened.  Daniels admits as much and has learned from it.

A working class hero is something to be.

by t ball on Feb 17, 2008 6:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Gonzalez had no position on this club?
The Rangers haven't had a good DH in years.

And people were pissed about trading Young for Eaton because Young was already as good as Eaton was, and Eaton had a history of being injury prone.

by Adam J. Morris on Feb 17, 2008 10:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Marlon Byrd
The overvaluing of Marlon Byrd frustrates me.

An outfield of Bradley-Hamilton-Murton/Catalanotto would be a lot better than I thought we were going to have.

by Darrell McKown on Feb 16, 2008 10:46 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

really...
how much better?

by Ph3 on Feb 16, 2008 4:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well inking Kins to a long term deal..

would be some of the best news of the spring.

Gerald Laird bragging on himself again? UGGHH

"They don't make them like me anymore".

Doctor: "yeh Gerry you're right they sure don't, they sure don't" wink wink

Someone needs to tell him he's NOT Johnny Bench.
On the bench maybe but not Johnny.

yeh Brooksie I agree 1man5stools would be a wonderful new screenname for you. If the diaper fits...

by LAMuscleFag on Feb 16, 2008 10:49 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Interested to hear more articles about how
the Rangers are beefing up the development system.  There's been plenty written about scouting, but JD has clearly stated scouting and development are equally critical to a long run of success.

TR?  Evan?  What's up with the development staff?  Outside of the tutors for catchers, have they brought in more development resources?

If I owned a lightsaber, the blade color would be black light, so that I could use it to fight evil and to liven-up parties.

by rooster on Feb 16, 2008 11:40 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Time to Develop
Maybe the most important resource for development is time.  With most of the recent trades, timeliness was not one of the factors.  You don't make trades for players like Elvis Andrus and Engel Beltre if you aren't willing to devote the requisite time for those players to develop.

by Excel Hearts Choi on Feb 16, 2008 12:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry Miles
"Joaquin Arias says that he's going to be ready to go when camp opens.    He'd better be.   His career is probably on the line.

Chance of breaking camp with the Rangers:   none

Chance of breaking camp with the Royals:   more realistic than breaking with the Rangers"

Ummm, I got nothing good to put here right now, that sucks!

by NYTXFAN on Feb 16, 2008 1:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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