Monday morning stuff
Okay, what do we have out there today...
Josh Hamilton is impressing folks. And Hamilton is impressed by his teammates:
A day or two later, after the Rangers worked out, Kinsler invited him to grab a salad at a local bakery. Nothing really big there, except that Hamilton says it's the first time any professional teammate ever invited him for a meal.
Evan Grant also says that the Rangers have released R.J. Anderson, a 9th round pick from 2005 who got an above-slot bonus to forego a college scholarship.
Tim Cowlishaw has a column up on the impact the loss of Mark Teixeira will have on the team.
Jeff Wilson says yesterday's performance didn't help Sidney Ponson's bid to make the rotation...I still think Luis Mendoza gets called up for the April 12 start, and then the Rangers re-evaluate from there.
On the injury front, Mark Connor was happy with Vicente Padilla's performance yesterday, but Milton Bradley is still sore, and it is looking less and less likely he'll be playing right field to start the season. Kevin Millwood is going to start again Thursday, and C.J. Wilson and Joaquin Benoit will pitch on Tuesday.
Jim Hendry says the Cubs still need a righty outfield bat:
''No,'' Hendry told the Sun-Times on Sunday. ''We're going to have to add somebody before Opening Day. I can't say for sure because you are going to have to acquire somebody from somewhere else, but we are going to have to add at least another outfielder to be in the mix off the bench -- from the right side.''
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''You try to hold off and try to get the best guy you can,'' Hendry said. ''And that's what we're still going to try to do. And the other things, you don't know whether they are going to happen.''
The ''other things'' likely center on the Cubs' hunt for Baltimore Orioles second baseman Brian Roberts, though sources from both sides indicate a deal probably wouldn't be struck until the final days of camp. The Cubs also have interest in Boston Red Sox center fielder Coco Crisp, a switch hitter, and the Texas Rangers' Marlon Byrd, a righty-swinging outfielder who could play center.
The need for another outfielder has become so great, manager Lou Piniella will give right fielder Kosuke Fukudome some looks in center this week.
''One thing we don't have here is a backup center fielder,'' Piniella said. ''I said we weren't going to keep both young center fielders [Felix Pie and Sam Fuld] here. I'm going to have to play Fukudome in center a little bit this week.''
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''I think Jim will be able to pick up a center fielder,'' Piniella said.
Hendry has been working overtime to swing a deal.
''You can even see from our spring training games where we're a little short out there,'' Hendry said. ''We never anticipate large trades are going to get made, so you don't count on having a lot different team than you have right now.''
So there you go...
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What does this
"Nothing really big there, except that Hamilton says it's the first time any professional teammate ever invited him for a meal."
by RangerMad on Mar 17, 2008 10:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
by WyoRanger on Mar 17, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we got
Maybe I undervalue Volquez, and maybe he really is a front of the rotation pitcher, but if he isn't, it was a huge steal.
by DJCahill on Mar 17, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it already is a huge steal
Here's another interesting comment about Josh's batting practices: "'I don't want to look sometimes,' Byrd said. 'I just know he does some things I can't.'" That's really something for a guy to say about a player. Just by being a major leaguer Byrd's in the top 0.1% of the world in baseball but Josh is head and shoulders better.
by WyoRanger on Mar 17, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well....
Also, not sure if anyone else here has noticed, but Edinson's been doing pretty well so far:
So, the question is, if we DID give a front of the rotation pitcher, would Hamilton be worth that even if the performance concerns never materialize? What if both the performance and injury concerns never materialize?
Req
by Requiem on Mar 17, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
depends on how front of the line
i think i take volquez but i don't feel so bad about it.
by ab03 on Mar 17, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Volquez has a lot of K's
It's only spring training, after all - wait until he has to deal with the high-powered lineups of the NL Central, like Milwaukee, Houston, and Chicago.
I said this in a comment yesterday, but I think Volquez might wind up in the bullpen eventually. I think his electric stuff would play better there, and I think it would help him a lot if he didn't have to worry about going through a lineup twice. In the 'pen, I think he could be possible closer material.
But as a starter, I don't see him being more than a #3 at the best - he's too streaky and finicky to be an ace, though.
by lonestarJon on Mar 17, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Berkman, Tejada, C. Lee
by lonestarJon on Mar 17, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
by ab03 on Mar 17, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pence
by Steven on Mar 17, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen suggestions about that before
Maybe being a rule 5 pick had something to do with it? Did his inclusion on the roster keep a popular guy off the roster? Maybe the Reds keeping Hamilton was like the Rangers trading Dellucci, with a bunch of grown men pouting and whining all year about it?
by JBImaknee on Mar 17, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think
by BHill on Mar 17, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hamilton Stuff
I guess some of it might come from the guys grabbing a beer after the game or something, and not wanting to put him in that position, but it is just strange that not once someone reached out to him.
I can't even say good deal on the part of the Ranger clubhouse, because to me they are doing the common sense things to do.
Just very weird
by Mike Simonek on Mar 17, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs
by Randy Richardson on Mar 17, 2008 10:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Trade
by meatbonelefty on Mar 17, 2008 10:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Veal...
by JB on Mar 17, 2008 10:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I read somewhere
Gotta love a GM who drives a hard bargain.
by thedirkatron on Mar 17, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sometimes
by NothinG on Mar 17, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every time I hear that
I remember the story about JD sticking to his guns with the Red Sox with the Gagne deal. The story went that they had agreed on Gabbard + Murphy + a prospect. JD wanted Engel Beltre to be that prospect. Boston didn't want to trade Beltre. They kept coming back with other prospective players to finish the deal, and JD kept saying, "No thanks. What about Beltre?" Finally the night before the deadline Theo realized that there was no way around it: If he wanted Gagne, he was gonna have to give up Beltre. JD stood firm and got the guy he wanted. He could have softened up a little bit and probably still gotten a pretty good deal while making a good friend in Theo, but instead he stood his ground, got the deal he wanted, and now as a result of his rigidity he won't be getting a Christmas card from Epstein. I think if I'm JD I take Beltre and do without the good will.
by thedirkatron on Mar 17, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen...
by corbsclinton on Mar 17, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
by Chris Martin on Mar 17, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Possibly
Theo won't be crying over much, but that doesn't counterfeit either trades made or missed opportunities. But if you get what you want, sometimes the price you pay for it is termed too high. Doesn't make that much difference, if you actually get what you want.
by Ed Coffin on Mar 17, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure Theo...
It is odd sometimes how these things work out. What, we can't have Crisp unless we give up a top prospect. Ok well I guess we will settle for Josh Hamilton then. Thanks anyway.
by slc ranger on Mar 17, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
Just think of it this way:
One amazingly talented CF: Edinson Volquez
Texas Ranger Coco Crisps: Priceless
by lonestarJon on Mar 17, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
And I think JD had targeted Hambone all along, and even if we'd gotten Coco we'd more than likely have gone after Hamilton for RF and eschewed signing Bradley.
But that's all pure conjecture. I have no real insight on the Coco negotiations.
by thedirkatron on Mar 17, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Conjecture?
by Chris Martin on Mar 17, 2008 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strangeness in Cubbie land.
by rooster on Mar 17, 2008 10:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Byrd
by JKolar on Mar 17, 2008 12:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
1 year deal
by Steven on Mar 17, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd have been happy
It's not like Broussard is particularly good with the glove, as he is a bit of a butcher.
by DJCahill on Mar 17, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
butcher?
by Steven on Mar 17, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Broussard's fielding
by lonestarJon on Mar 17, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Concur
by slc ranger on Mar 17, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Byrd
It's a better fit than the Cubs, anyway.
by hightowersmith on Mar 17, 2008 6:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for...
More teams involved = better player in return
by slc ranger on Mar 17, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you figure Tampa would be a better fit?
Not that there's anything wrong with making a pitch to the Rays on Marlon, but the Cubs really like Byrd - he seems to be the guy they want. Which is why I still think they may cave here before the season starts.
by lonestarJon on Mar 17, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
see the "hurleyites" diary -->
Links and ideas are over there.
by tricer on Mar 17, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jackson
by t ball on Mar 17, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Nothing wrong with moves like that.
by tricer on Mar 17, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except
by t ball on Mar 17, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
when you have
And I could be way off, but I think TB is going to have a pretty legit rotation. They have a couple of guys that won't make their rotation that would fit nicely in ours.
by tricer on Mar 17, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rays Rotation
by t ball on Mar 17, 2008 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll definitely take our pen over TB's...
by slc ranger on Mar 17, 2008 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edwin Jackson = Robinson Tejeda
by lonestarJon on Mar 17, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As opposed to...
Sure. If you give young guys with filthy stuff chances, you can end up with a top rotation starter eventually. If you keep trotting fringe guys out there, you might end up with a reliable bottom rotation guy eventually.
In what should be a rebuilding year, I'd much rather roll the dice with Tejeda and a guy like Edwin Jackson over any of the names listed above.
by tricer on Mar 17, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jackson
He may have good stuff, but he hasn't figured out how to use it yet - I'd much rather try and pry a prospect like Veal from the Cubs than settling for Edwin Jackson.
by lonestarJon on Mar 17, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Veal
by tricer on Mar 17, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
There's other guys other than Veal, anyway - Samardzija, or Ceda, for example.
Samardzija had the best curveball in the Cubs org. in 2006, according the Baseball America.
My point with Jackson though, is he has yet to show any success on the ML level - I know he's awfully young, but his numbers are just atrociuos...
by lonestarJon on Mar 17, 2008 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's had
by brettgardner on Mar 17, 2008 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's his minor league numbers
Those look fairly pedestrian to me. I just don't see the fascination with this guy - nothing I can find says he's got anything particulary special.
by lonestarJon on Mar 17, 2008 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball America
Ahead of Prince Fielder, Grady Sizemore, Scott Kazmir, David Wright and Cole Hamels.
Of course those rankings aren't the end-all, but it should speak to his talent.
by tricer on Mar 17, 2008 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gawd, how did you guys...
"Washington said the club will make a decision on the fifth starter before the end of spring training."
Thats always good to know.
by corbsclinton on Mar 17, 2008 6:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well...
If they give the job to Ponson and then Mendoza has 3 very good starts at AAA, and Ponson sucks it up in that same time, they could change their mind before that 5th starter is needed.
by slc ranger on Mar 17, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
by corbsclinton on Mar 17, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've taken to calling
Not quite the category of Stengalese, or Yogi-isms, but sometimes it doesn't come out just like he intends it.
by Ed Coffin on Mar 17, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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