Saturday a.m. stuff
Do you guys realize that Opening Day is in 9 days? The season starts soon...
Evan Grant looks at the final roster issues and projects the 25 man roster...he has German, Tejeda and Littleton making the bullpen, Mendoza starting the season in AAA (until he's needed on April 12), Laird and Melhuse catching, and Botts beating out Mench...
I generally agree with all that, although I think there's a chance the Rangers stick German in the minors initially, rather than putting him on the roster to start the season...
Jeff Wilson also projects the 25 man roster, and comes up with the same group as Grant, except he has Kevin Mench making the team over Jason Botts. He explains:
Jason Botts is the safe choice to make the club over Mench because he is out of options, and many in the front office don't want to see him succeed with another club. But Mench, in camp on a minor-league deal, is more of a proven commodity, a better defender and has the support of the manager. However, don't be surprised if Botts wins that spot. It's that close.
This sort of thing makes me want to bang my head against a wall. Mench is a "proven commodity"? Who cares? Who gives a crap about whether a bench guy is a proven commodity or not, in a rebuilding year? Why not take a look at the guy who has crushed AAA pitching for the last three years, but who has never gotten an extended shot in the majors? Given that you are rebuilding, why not use that roster spot on a guy who is out of options but who could be a contributor for the next few years, rather than a one-year journeyman?
This also makes me wonder how good a choice Ron Washington really is to be manager...this seems reminiscent of his strange infatuation with Sammy Sosa and Matt Kata last year, and his apparent championing of Ben Broussard this year. It makes me wonder how good Washington really is at evaluating talent, which is a problem for a rebuilding team. Almost as much of a problem as having a manager who wants to go with the "proven commodity" rather than the unproven player in a rebuilding year...
Jeff Wilson also looks at the expected starting lineup, with Michael Young batting third, and this accompanying comment:
Ron Washington said he wants his best hitter batting third. No surprise that Young's here.
Unfortunately, Young isn't the best hitter on the team...but the perception is still out there that he is, I guess...
Want to know about Kason Gabbard? Both the S-T's spring training report and the DMN's spring training report include Q&As with Gabbard.
T.R. Sullivan has a minor league report up, with some interesting info in there. He says Doug Mathis, A.J. Murray, and Eric Hurley should be in the AAA rotation, with Matt Harrison, Michael Ballard, and Michael Schlact in the AA rotation. Bakersfield is set to have an impressive group, with Omar Poveda, Tommy Hunter, Zach Phillips, and Beau Jones all slated to start the season there, and Kasey Kiker joining the rotation out of extended spring.
Sullivan mentions Hunter has really impressed the Rangers, and there seems to be a sense that Hunter could end up moving really quickly through the system.
Engel Beltre will also be playing full-season ball, per Sullivan, starting the season at Clinton, which should provide a good test for him.
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We aren't in win mode now
so it doesn't really make sense to keep Mench over Botts. Give Botts one final chance...give him consistent ABs for the first two-three months. If he can't get it together, the Botts experiment will be over.
by Agreen07 on Mar 22, 2008 11:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He is a backup.
He won't be getting consistent ABs as a backup DH/1B/OF.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
by RangerMad on Mar 22, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends ...
on whether Salty makes the team as a backup catcher/part-time DH, I think (which I don't think is likely — I think the general consensus is that he's going to AAA).
If Salty's out of the picture, there's a lot of ABs to go around for a backup this year, especially early:
Mitlon's ailing, Cat/Murphy/etc. probably won't play against lefties. You could maybe throw Broussard into that mix if Botts proves himself at 1B. At the very least, I think this puts Botts in a platoon position plus a few starts to spell Bradley, who would be playing DH to start the season, anyway. Maybe not everyday ABs, but more valuable ones than he's be getting in AAA, and probably more than you'd think.
by MeanMr.Mustard on Mar 22, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The situation you
describe doesn't fit Botts. I think for him to be successful he needs to be in the starting lineup 5 days a week.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
by RangerMad on Mar 22, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Botts
Why haven't the Rangers or Botts thought about making him a righty batter only? I'm not qualified to analyze his swing but the basic knock on him is that his lefty swing has a loop that causes him to be slow thru the hitting zone. Am I correct in assuming that the loop is not present in his righty swing? If the righty swing as more technically correct, why don't they have him be a righty platoon player now and gradually work him into batting righty vs. righty? Good righty hitters hit well against righty pitchers all the time.
by mcgee48c on Mar 22, 2008 11:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mench
Yes, he is a proven commodity. But what's been proved about that commodity? He's an average player. I've got a good idea what Mench's ceiling is. I don't with Botts.
Here's the only reason I can think of for not giving Botts a chance. They want to keep the DH spot open for Milton Bradley early in the season so he can perform as well as possible, trade Bradley and hope that the return is greater than losing Botts.
The idea that Botts could make it through waivers is irrelevant. So what if the Rangers can hold on to him and sent him back to AAA. Having Botts at AAA accomplishes nothing since it's clear he can hit there.
What happened to my old signature?
by WyoRanger on Mar 22, 2008 11:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+ 1
I hereby deem you Benny Brou Ha Ha<---Wash thinks you can hit lefties....in 2 months time you will be a full fledged Brouhaha..trust me on that one.
by LAMuscleFag on Mar 22, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Today's Game on FSSW
Don't forget to tune in at 3:00PM.
by DaheelzCM on Mar 22, 2008 11:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
batting order
Think I read somewhere today that Washington is"considering" young 2nd Hamilton 3rd.
by oldcatsfan on Mar 22, 2008 11:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So.....
Mendoza and Ponson round out the AAA rotation. Too bad for Harrison. He deserves to be in AAA.
I think Clinton could be the most interesting place. Main and Castillo eventually, Feliz, and Holland. Maybe late season appearances by Beavan, Ramirez, and maybe even Wingding.
Little has been said about Evan Reed this offseason. Maybe he starts out in Bakersfield and Kiker comes in if he (or Tommy Hunter) gets promoted quickly.
Exciting stuff to think about. Can't wait till it all gets started.
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by rooster on Mar 22, 2008 11:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Harrison should be in AAA
I don't care about Ponson (does he have a long term future in Texas?) and he shouldn't be put in front of Harrison's development. Harrison has all ready pitched almost 200 innings at AA. He needs to be in Triple A. Hopefully when Mendoza gets called up for the fifth spot in the Rangers rotation Matt will be moved up to Oklahoma as well.
My memory is a little short, have the Rangers had four potential MLB players in their Triple A rotation in the last fifteen years? I don't know that Hurley, Harrison, Murry or Mathis are more than 4th or 5th starters but it is nice to see something coming up.
by Hull Fan on Mar 22, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a guess...
...but I think Harrison will be in AAA sometime in May.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 22, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
April 12th
Once Mendoza gets called up I think Harrison will get the call to OKC. If not then then May 1 when Ponson either is called up or takes his release.
by bigsteve on Mar 22, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harrison, probably after Ponson leaves.
McCarthy has to rehab, so Mendoza and McCarthy will probably swap spots at some point.
I think Evan Reed will begin in Clinton after looking at what he did last year.
Spokane: Beavan, Ramirez, Pimentel, Font, Grullon, Wilkins, (stud draft pick)
Clinton: Holland, Reed, Feliz, Tatusko, Coffman (Main, Castillo)
Bakersfield: Poveda, Phillips, Hunter, Jones, Quintero, (Kiker)
Frisco: Harrison, Ballard, Schlact, Ace, Kendy, (McCarthy rehab)
OKC: Hurley, AJ, Mathis, Mendoza, Ponson
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by rooster on Mar 22, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is Wash paid?
I don't think that Wash is paid to see if he can develop Botts. He's paid to win games. Mench has a .900+ career OPS against lefties, and Botts is an unknown who has struggled somewhat in the limited amount of AB's he's been given.
If I'm Wash and my job was dependent on whether I win games, then I'd tend to lean a bit more towards Mench against lefties.
by Redcaps on Mar 22, 2008 11:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If that is the case
Then JD needs to lose his job too. You can't have it both ways if you are the GM of a "rebuilding" team.
by DaheelzCM on Mar 22, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
with sunflower seeds.
I hereby deem you Benny Brou Ha Ha<---Wash thinks you can hit lefties....in 2 months time you will be a full fledged Brouhaha..trust me on that one.
by LAMuscleFag on Mar 22, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wash
It's already been pretty thoroughly discussed that Wash thinks he has to win to keep his job, and JD thinks he has to expose his young talent and grow a winner to keep his.
The word 'win' might have very different connotations to each of them. But if Wash uses 'proven' but less capabable players too much, those paths may not be parallel much less compatible. I think we'll know a lot more by June, and I frankly don't know what to expect.
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by Ed Coffin on Mar 22, 2008 11:45 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Washington
Wash was a third base coach with no prior experience in managing before last year. No direct experience with putting together batting orders, managing a bench, or managing a bullpen. Mistakes were made often last year, and he's still learning.
I agree with the belief that Botts should be given every chance. We already know what Mench can do, and it's not enough.
Remarks
by remarks52 on Mar 22, 2008 11:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Washington
Had two years of management experience in the Mets organization.
by Randy Richardson on Mar 22, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roster
Not sure why Wash is receiving the blame for the Mench/Botts decision. Wouldn't that rest squarely on JD's shoulders? I agree that Botts should make the club so we can see what he has to offer over a long period of time instead of a short period of time, but I would think that would be JD's decision ultimately. Wash's job is to win with the players put before him. It shouldn't be to decide (or have the last say-so for sure) which players are put before him.
by Chris Hanes on Mar 22, 2008 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I doubt JD has anything to do...
with the composition of the 25 man roster. I'd assume that the manager has control over who makes that.
by Redcaps on Mar 22, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
That's JD's responsibility - 100%
by Randy Richardson on Mar 22, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Opening Day
It is only 9 days away and it is a beautiful spring like day here in NC which only puts me in the mood for baseball even more. But I enjoy MLB opening day about as much as I enjoy opening day for my own team. With that said, I just don't have much use for MLB starting our season in another country. I'm sorry, but it just shouldn't be that way.
by Chris Hanes on Mar 22, 2008 12:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that is
a completely unfair criticism of Washington. Did he sign Sosa or trade for Broussard? And his feelings on Mench/Botts or Kata are solely input for JD to do with what he wants. Those are criticisms more properly leveled at JD. Washington, like any other newer manager, has tenuous job security - if the Rangers start out of the gate like they did last year, he could very easily be gone - rebuilding or not. Without a doubt, nobody in the organization has more pressure to win now than Wash.
by Randy Richardson on Mar 22, 2008 12:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good to hear about Hunter
I remember when he was drafted last year in the supp round, everyone, including me, seemed confused. Here was a chubby guy with good, but not great, numbers at Alabama. I don't think a true stats guy would ever have drafted him.
Suggests that pure scouting can still find a few gems out there.
by JBImaknee on Mar 22, 2008 12:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It would be nice to see
Botts make the team, would not like to see the Rangers lose both Botts and Cruz, but the fact is that neither would get much playing time and would certainly not be able to show what they can do on a consistent basis.
I would rather see BB, Melhuse and Cat go and and see what Botts, Cruz, Salty and, to a lesser degree, Mench can do. Let Salty , Mench and Botts rotate at first, Botts and Cruz in the OF.
by RingoRanger on Mar 22, 2008 12:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I also think
Ron Washington is way over his head.
by RingoRanger on Mar 22, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ron Washington
It's taken you this long to think Washington might not be the right man for the job? He did an atrocious job last season preparing the club out of spring training. His bumbling handling of the bullpen throughout the season was awful and he seems to have learned nothing this year.
I am not at all surprised he wants Mench. Washington should be fired immediately at the end of the season unless things change dramatically. I think his hiring was the worst decision of JD's tenure. Yes, even worse than that one.
Fire Ron Washington
by pblack on Mar 22, 2008 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can you give some examples
of his "bumbling handling of the bullpen"?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
by RangerMad on Mar 22, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here
How about this:
That's the one that rolls off the top of my head... also, there's the time he put Scott Feldman in the game in the 10th inning that time in Disney World, and we lost...
To Ron's credit, his bullpen management did improve as the season went on, though - but he has been quite mystifying sometimes in how he's managed his 'pen. It's just hard to to go back and find specific examples from last year's archives, and I'm too lazy to go find anymore than one.
by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2008 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ 1
There were many examples of him bumbling the pen. I recall all of us scratching our heads sooo many times. But who the hell wants to go through each and every game to retrieve them.
I hereby deem you Benny Brou Ha Ha<---Wash thinks you can hit lefties....in 2 months time you will be a full fledged Brouhaha..trust me on that one.
by LAMuscleFag on Mar 23, 2008 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jonny boy... I just read that game recap...
it sent chills down my spine, I remember that game where Feldman was walking everybody (and their sister) and getting bombed too and Wash left him in the whole time, it was
unbelievable.That's just ONE example and a pretty damn good one I'd say.
I hereby deem you Benny Brou Ha Ha<---Wash thinks you can hit lefties....in 2 months time you will be a full fledged Brouhaha..trust me on that one.
by LAMuscleFag on Mar 23, 2008 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most of Wash's bullpen mistakes
Did involve either A: leaving people in too long, or B: putting the wrong people in in the wrong situation.
Too many times last year did we see guys like Scott Feldman pitching when the game was tied or we owned a slim lead, and too many times last year did we see CJ Wilson or Joaquin Benoit pitching in games where we where losing by 4 runs. Those are the main problems I remember with Wash's bullpen managment.
by lonestarJon on Mar 23, 2008 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You said it
yourself, Washington improved during the year as did the team as a whole. Lets see how he and the team does this year.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
by RangerMad on Mar 23, 2008 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah brother Adam... you've seen the light!
I'm firmly convinced Ron Washington is the wrong man to be managing this team. We need a manager who's a leader, who can fairly evaluate talent, and not base his decisions on personal preferences, and we also need a manager who is on board with Jon Daniels 3-5 year plan.
Ron is none of those things. He should have never been hired in the first place, but the Rangers need to get him out of the dugout now, before he does anymore damage to this teams development.
I would be completely fine if he and Matt Walbeck swapped jobs. Ron has proven he makes a good coach, and he is a very good defensive instructor - I wouldn't mind seeing him hang around as the 3rd base coach, but as a manager, he's in way over his head.
by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2008 6:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wash
How can a guy with a 2 year contract be on board with a 3-5 year plan? Managers are paid to put their team in the best position to win, day in and day out. Wash does that by using the 25 guys that JD gives him. If guys like Kata, Sosa, Mench, and others don't belong on the team, than that's JDs fault. It's not Wash's problem that he plays the guys he's given.
by Randy Richardson on Mar 22, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not like Wash doesn't have a say in who goes on the 25
JD has the final yea or nea, but usually, managers get the players that they want/reccomend to be on the roster, unless a GM steps in because of an options situation or something. It's not like the GM is micromanaging the team - if he was, you wouldn't need a manager.
Wash doles out the day-to-day playing time. If he were a good manager, even if he had crappy players on the team, he wouldn't be giving those crappy players a ton of at-bats.
But Ron doesn't base playing time on "ability", he bases playing time on whether he likes a player or not. If he likes a guy, like Marlon Byrd or Ben Broussard, "they'll hit period". Even if they're hitting .240. If he doesn't like a guy, like Jason Botts, they have to "earn their way onto the team". It's pretty obvious, the way he plays favorites - the only way you can get past that favoritisim is hit well enough to were Wash can't deny you playing time or a certain spot in the order, like Ian Kinsler and Josh Hamilton have done.
And furthermore, he should be on board with JD's 3-5 year plan, even if he is on a 2 year contract. That's how you keep your job, and get resigned when your contract expires, is if you can fit yourself into the plans of the GM and the organization. But making your own plans, and deciding to take the team in your own direction is a prime way to get yourself fired.
So I guess Ron is either ignorant or he wants to get fired, because he certainly has his own agenda that he puts before the organization's agenda - and that's just not a good thing.
by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wash/JD
"JD has the final yea or nea, but usually, managers get the players that they want/reccomend to be on the roster, unless a GM steps in because of an options situation or something. It's not like the GM is micromanaging the team - if he was, you wouldn't need a manager."
I think that is a misunderstanding of the GMs responsibilities. "Micromanaging" would be a GM telling a manager what reliever or pinch-hitter he should use and such. I'm sure managers like Cox, Torre, and Leyland get the rosters they want - but not most managers.
Can you name a "good" player from last year who was regularly benched in favor of a "crappy" [layer? The only example I can think of is Sosa/Botts, but that, again, was JDs doing. When Botts was called up, JD promised Sosa he would be the RH DH.
Why shouldn't Wash be on board with the 3-5 year plan? Because managers are fired for losing.
by Randy Richardson on Mar 22, 2008 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JD told Sammy he would be the RH DH when Botts was called up?
That's news to me. From what I remember, it was the other way around - Sammy was told he was moving to a reserve role.
You're right about manangers winning, to s certain extent - but JD has already said he does not expect this team to win this year. There's no pressure on Wash to go out and win any divisions - the pressure on Wash is to manage the young players and vets on the roster, dole out the playing time, and help develop the young guys. And he's really not capable of doing that, from what I've seen.
Managers of teams like the Rangers are not going to get fired for losing when they have a crappy team, and the management understands they are in a rebuilding mode. Do you think Dave Tembly (Orioles) is expected to win the division with what he has? What about Manny Acta? Or Trey Hillman? Those guys are supposed to be focused on getting the team back to a point where they can contend in the future, and as long as they are helping the team progress, they'll keep their jobs. But they're not expected to win any division titles.
Same story with Wash - JD understands we're not going to win this year, so Wash should understand it's not about winning every game, it's about managing for the future. But he doesn't seem to be able to figure that out, which is why he should not be managing this team, and hopefully will not be managing it in two years.
by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2008 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wash
JD flew to Cleveland to ensure Sosa that while his playing time would be cut in order to play younger players, he still would see play and not just sit on the bench the rest of the year.
Managers get fired for losing. Local columnists started calling for him to be fired in late May of last year. If the Rangers are 33-48 at the All Star Break, there will be pressure on the organization to fire him. Make no mistake that Wash feels that pressure and feels the need to win.
As far as developing players, I think Wash deserves credit for Benoit's blossoming into a solid set-up guy. It was Wash who had confidence in him and put him into that role. Remember early last year Wash (not Connor) would go out to talk to Benoit when he struggled in an outing and got him back on track.
by Randy Richardson on Mar 22, 2008 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a decent point
But JD also sat right next to Botts on the same flight, and no doubt discussed what the organization expected from him, too.
You have to remember, Sosa was Mr. 600 last year - you can't just call someone up to take over his role without giving him some assurances.
But my point is, Wash and JD need to get together on what they're doing here. JD can't make plans if he's not going to get help from Wash executing them. And so far, Wash doesn't seem too willing to bend yet. It's not really a huge problem yet, but wait until there's some mid-season callups of younger guys - we'll see how Wash reacts to having to take his "proven veterans" out of the lineup or the rotation.
And as for Benoit - Wash may have given him the shot at the set-up role, but that kind of came about when Gagne went down, and there was really no one else to pitch the 8th inning, other than CJ or Joaquin. And whatever confidence Wash had in Benoit sure didn't carry over into the offseason - just look what he has to say about him and CJ when it comes to the closers role:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070922&content_id=2224256&vkey=news_tex&fext=.jsp&c_id=tex
"I'm not saying CJ or Benoit can't do it one day, but they don't have the experience. They have the stuff to do it, but they have to earn their way into the position."
Sound familiar? He says that every time when he's talking about a promising young player taking over a job. But I wonder how he proposes that CJ and Joaquin accquire this experience? Or other younger players vying for jobs? You gotta start somewhere - but unfortunately, Ron doesn't realize this - he seems to think guys should be born with 10 year track records.
by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2008 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Benoit
Why do you have an inability to give Wash any credit for anything.
by Randy Richardson on Mar 22, 2008 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Becuase Wash doesn't deserve it
I have to believe that Benoit is such a good pitcher, he would have had a breakout year with Wash, Buck, or Donald Duck managing this team. I have a hard time seeing how Ron is soley responsible for the rise of Joaquin Benoit. He needed a role player for the back of the 'pen, Benoit had good stuff and was the best man for the job, so he used him. It's that simple.
It's not like Benoit was languishing away in middle-releif, and Ron particularly moved his main 8th inning man out of the way because he saw Joaquin's potential or something. The rises of CJ and Jack last year where both due to injuries and senority - and because they where having stellar seasons.
But if Ron, personally really was, that high on Jack, he'd have more confidence in him, and wouldn't have been bemoaning his "lack of experience" at the end of the year.
by lonestarJon on Mar 23, 2008 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are
trying to have it both ways.
by Randy Richardson on Mar 23, 2008 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you had to have a basehit
who's the first guy in our lineup you'd choose?
by SteveP on Mar 23, 2008 2:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hamilton
Not only does he go to all fields, but he goes to all fields with scary power.
by lonestarJon on Mar 23, 2008 2:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Young or Kinsler
In years past I would have said Young, but I think I'm starting to want to see Kinsler up if I need a base hit.
Maybe in a couple of months I'll be saying Hamilton or maybe after watching Bradley play every day he'll get my vote or maybe if Blalock can actually return to '03-'04 form I'd choose him or maybe if Murphy actually does defy the odds and turns into an every day player and continues to hit so well he'd force me to choose him.
by Chris Hanes on Mar 23, 2008 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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