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Really would like to see

Kason put together a very solid game today, before we head into the regular season

by SaltyGoesYard on Mar 24, 2008 2:20 PM CDT reply actions  

This game

is not televised locally right?

www.mavsmoneyball.com

by Wes Cox on Mar 24, 2008 2:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Probably...

...just a reward to a good organizational soldier.

Austin, my God. They're having such a hard time hanging on to what's left of what everyone loves about it. -- Patterson Hood

by Lucas on Mar 24, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

http://www.myp2p.eu/index.php?part=sports

" Winning doesn't always mean being first,
winning means you are doing better than you have done before"

by coolaid on Mar 24, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scooter Garner

Doing the free webcast today.

...it's the weekend, so why the hell not?

by Rodney on Mar 24, 2008 3:23 PM CDT reply actions  

webcast

link please :)

baseBALLIN!

by kevzta on Mar 24, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

gabbard

seriously looks terrible. wasting pitches, can't locate, can't throw a strike. in a seemingly low pressure situation, he is not delivering at all

by ab03 on Mar 24, 2008 3:26 PM CDT reply actions  

homer

baseBALLIN!

by kevzta on Mar 24, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

and then

gives up a tape measure shot to derosa. belt high

by ab03 on Mar 24, 2008 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

gabby gabby gabby

I miss DeRo *sigh*

I hereby deem you Benny Brou Ha Ha<---Wash thinks you can hit lefties....in 2 months time you will be a full fledged Brouhaha..trust me on that one.

by LAMuscleFag on Mar 24, 2008 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Derosa = Beast

Gabbard..... not so much

Formerly known as OKRangerFan

by B_Black on Mar 24, 2008 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I've been saying this for quite a while now

...and I know there are others that agree - Gabbard doesn't strike me as a long-term answer, and I think it's more likely than not that he's out of the rotation for good by the ASB.

This isn't based off of my observations of Gabbard this spring, though he's certainly not doing anything to inspire much confidence...

by jamcadbury on Mar 24, 2008 3:32 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

I'd love for part of the "new look" to be a return to the red uniforms of the 1990s. - Ian Kinsler

by ortonius on Mar 24, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gabbard

I try not to put too much stock in ST, but Gabbard struggled at the end of the year and has gotten hit hard in ST. I have very serious doubts about him. Can you imagine starting him against the Tigers? - the Rangers would be better off having Tejeda or Wright start against them.

by Randy Richardson on Mar 24, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gabbard... gives up a 3R HR and bunts into a double play...

good grief.

If I owned a lightsaber, the blade color would be black light, so that I could use it to fight evil and to liven-up parties.

by rooster on Mar 24, 2008 3:37 PM CDT reply actions  

no bp

in spring for the pitchers i take it.

by TexasTiger on Mar 24, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Minor league transactions from BA:

Released: RHP Jon Hollis, RHP Ivan Izquierdo, RHP Mike Wagner, RHP Jim Wladyka, RHP Brett Zamzow, LHP Dan Hoben, C Kevin Gossage, C Joe Hulet, 1B Jason Sowers, OF Ronnie Anderson, OF Luke Salas

No big surprises there.

by shroomer on Mar 24, 2008 3:49 PM CDT reply actions  

knee jerk

hamilton slump coinciding with dropping him in the lineup?

by ab03 on Mar 24, 2008 3:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought it was odd

that Wash would make that decision based on Spring Training. Granted, it was a great Spring Training, but you would think he would only say he is ready for the #3 spot after hitting like that in the regular season.

Guess we'll see if it carries over.

by geetar85 on Mar 24, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

where did our runs come from

just turned on sopcast, gameday doesnt show the runs yet.

by DShep on Mar 24, 2008 3:52 PM CDT reply actions  

a Murph double

I hereby deem you Benny Brou Ha Ha<---Wash thinks you can hit lefties....in 2 months time you will be a full fledged Brouhaha..trust me on that one.

by LAMuscleFag on Mar 24, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

The comeback

is on!

Damn, runner stranded at 3rd with 1 out...

...it's the weekend, so why the hell not?

by Rodney on Mar 24, 2008 3:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I

don't enjoy having to litsn to the Cubs announcers bash the Rangers.

BTW, if you have directv this game is on CSNC HD.

The Texas Rangers rounded the bases at a dizzying pace

by fsujon on Mar 24, 2008 4:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks

I'm sitting here watching Outside The Lines.

by Chris Hanes on Mar 24, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Grant in the booth.

If I owned a lightsaber, the blade color would be black light, so that I could use it to fight evil and to liven-up parties.

by rooster on Mar 24, 2008 4:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Evan thinks Byrd has struggled because he's been in rumored trade talks the entire spring.

whatever.

If I owned a lightsaber, the blade color would be black light, so that I could use it to fight evil and to liven-up parties.

by rooster on Mar 24, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reed Johnson

From rotoworld:

FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal says the Cubs, Red Sox, Rays and Rangers are among the teams showing interest in Reed Johnson.

If I owned a lightsaber, the blade color would be black light, so that I could use it to fight evil and to liven-up parties.

by rooster on Mar 24, 2008 4:16 PM CDT reply actions  

the MURPH

2 for 2 with 3 rbi's

I hereby deem you Benny Brou Ha Ha<---Wash thinks you can hit lefties....in 2 months time you will be a full fledged Brouhaha..trust me on that one.

by LAMuscleFag on Mar 24, 2008 4:26 PM CDT reply actions  

MVP

Canidate.

What a monsterrrr

Milton Bradley for MVP

by miles on Mar 24, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

+ 1

I hereby deem you Benny Brou Ha Ha<---Wash thinks you can hit lefties....in 2 months time you will be a full fledged Brouhaha..trust me on that one.

by LAMuscleFag on Mar 24, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

It looks like

Salty has been given the news that he's going down. Doesn't look like the same kid at the plate. He was ahead of Laird in nearly every catagory except HR and if you count the one in a B game he was only one behind with 3. I say trade him. You can get more for him than you could ever get for Laird.

by 525DP on Mar 24, 2008 4:30 PM CDT reply actions  

so a trip to the minor leagues at age 22

is enough to send him into a mental collapse? even when its obvious that the trip would be temporary?

are you really his dad? you don't sound like it - and in another thread you spelled his name wrong. You might have been copying and pasting, but still - who does that?

if you really are his dad, shouldn't you be in his ear telling him to play like a professional and wait the insignificant amount of time he's going to have to wait? maybe i'm crossing the line here but I don't understand this pouting from him and it's almost worse that his dad not only thinks is justified but is also doing it.

by ab03 on Mar 24, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes I am.

Who mentioned "mental collapse"? Uhhh, I believe I know how to spell my name. Insignificant amount of time? I'm sure you wouldnt be pissed if you did everything asked of you only to find they had there minds made up before ST. I believe his trip down will be temporary but it will be much longer than you seem to think. The time to trade Laird is before you break camp while his stats still look good. They have had teams interested but just shut the door. His stats have already taken a hit and he has a history of declining stats during the season. Now that they have made up there mind they ought to trade Salty and get something you will never get for Laird anyway.
He doesnt need me in his ear. He has always carried himself professionaly and will continue to do so. When you have proven yourself being pissed isnt pouting.

by 525DP on Mar 24, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

'mental collapse'

while it wasn't specifically mentioned, the implication was there if having "been given the news that he's going down" correlates to someone who "doesn't look like the same kid at the plate".

Just an observation.

Jeff Henn is an idiot.

by Red Shoe Fan on Mar 24, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Proven himself?

Not defensively and it's debatable whether he has proven himself on offense at the major league level either.

Hopefully he will rake in AAA and re-claim his status as our starting catcher after a few months. Of course the battle starts all over again in '09 when Teagarden will challenge for the right to be the starter.

lepricon

by jparks77 on Mar 24, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you have a poor evaluation of the situation

1st: again, i will say that if i were the gm/manager, id start him.

The Rangers have not decided that laird is their catcher for the next 5 years. More like the next 5 weeks.

Suggesting the rangers need to either play salty march 31st or trade him his silly. They acquired him for a reason, it was to get a long term catcher. If that involves a couple months in AAA working a bit extra on defense while they work on trades for laird, so be it. I dont blame the player for wanting to be in the majors, but if you are his dad you should be giving him perspective on the big picture situation not cursing the organization for stupidity in moves you dont know the motives behind.

by DShep on Mar 24, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never made

that suggestion. Well he is my son and he has all the perspective he needs. Who the hell is cursing the organization? Am I the only poster on this board scratching their heads? I think not!

by 525DP on Mar 24, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

What was tihs supposed to mean?

Now that they have made up there mind they ought to trade Salty and get something you will never get for Laird anyway.

And cursing the organization didnt mean literally cursing them out, just angry at them.

by DShep on Mar 24, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought

that was self explanatory. Sorry, misunderstood you. Angry? Hell yes!

by 525DP on Mar 24, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

insignificant amount of time

it absolutely is. what is a couple of months when you are still in your early 30's? Even if it is till the trade deadline, who cares? The kid hasn't spent ANY time at AAA up until now. 2 months is nothing.

You know, if you can see that he "doesn't look like the same kid at the plate," so can the Rangers, and I doubt it's something they want to see. It doesn't even make sense at this point - there hasn't been any news about the catching situation yet. True, there is plenty of innuendo but at the point you aren't told something definitive, you should go out there and rake and not worry.

by ab03 on Mar 24, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

btw

I do believe that you are his father, just confused by this post.

like I said, probably just a copy/paste thing.

by ab03 on Mar 24, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

I was copying andpasting posts from others to help clarify my answers.

by 525DP on Mar 24, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really

dont understand everyones feelin that AAA is a necessity. Most any baseball person will tell you that AAA is made up mostly (not all) of guys rehabbing, guys that will never be good enough for the show but will ride that paycheck for all its worth and old guys that still think they have what it takes. There are alot of great players in the majors today that never sniffed AAA but made it from AA.

I might be completely off base with the statement I made about how he looked at the plate, however, he looked good on defense ( so I probably am wrong) and we have to remember that they told him they dont care about whether he hits or not, just work on catching, which is what he's been doing.

BTW When you're in the clubhouse with the guys, you just seem to know whats going down before it does.

by 525DP on Mar 24, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree but

Salty needs to play everyday for him to work on his defense. Unfortunately right now the only place he can get playing time everyday behind the plate is in OKC.

The guy who I point to as an example for Salty is Hank Blalock. He initially skipped AAA after a blistering spring. He spent about 6 weeks up in the majors and was overwhelmed. He went back down to AAA and got back in his groove. Came up the next year and was an All Star. He had probably one of the best 2 year runs for a 3B in club history.

Salty doesn't need that much time. His bat has shown to be ML ready. If he can go down and work with the instructors and play everyday I think he could have a similar reaction and come back toward the middle of this year and become one of the top catchers in baseball very quickly.

by bigsteve on Mar 24, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

gabbard

not filling me with confidence.

by DShep on Mar 24, 2008 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

and salty throws one into cf

probably should have been stopped, but bad throw anyway.

by DShep on Mar 24, 2008 4:34 PM CDT reply actions  

The throw

was a little high to the 2B side but Vasquez didnt even reach for it. Might as well blame it on Salty instead of one on the 25 eh?

by 525DP on Mar 24, 2008 4:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Which is correct

I specifically said the throw should have been stopped.
Should have been stopped and not stopped = error, runner advances to 3rd.

But it was still an off target bad throw that had no chance to get a runner that didnt have a good jump.

Its not like Im a salty hater, Ive said dozens of times I want him to start. If it were up to me I would tell laird to shut up and play against lefties. Salty could occasionally DH against lefties and give him a full season. If laird caused problems in the clubhouse then id move him and just get the best you can.

But its a gameday thread and he made a bad throw so I commented on it.

by DShep on Mar 24, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

No problem

Wasn't personal. Sorry if it came out that way. Just a bit frustrated.

by 525DP on Mar 24, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Salty is under a lot of pressure

and will be his whole career. He keeps referring that the Braves brought him up last year and he stayed (on the bench), I would rather be playing. He is 22 (a kid) and Laird is a better catcher at this particular time.

Glad you care about your son, but that fact will make it hard for you to be objective, I have never been objective when it came to my son, he is the best regardless of facts.

I have a hunch we will be hearing a lot of good things about Salty for long time.

by RingoRanger on Mar 24, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know, I'm just be happy Salty is not being bounced around

like a pinball between poisitions again this season.

I understand your frusteration with the organization. I vehemently oppose this move myself, because I know Laird is an overrated crap of a player, who should be the right-handed half of a platoon somewhere, not playing full-time here.

But it appears this is the way it's gonna be, and we just have to live with it for now - I'm actually thankful that the organization has sent Salty to AAA instead of keeping him as the backup on the Major League team. I would think that would have been the ultimate insult to your son, to make him the backup to an inferior player, and make him scrap and fight for every at bat behind the plate.

At least this way Salty can catch full time, which is what he wants to do. Sooner or later (hopefully sooner) Laird will be gone, and Salty will have his much deserved shot at the full-time job. Intil then, I'll be waiting anxiously for that day, and hoping some other catcher in the league breaks his arm, so we can trade Laird, and set this situation right.

by LSJ on Mar 24, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

MLB's Gameday sucks right now

Hopefully it is only because it is Spring Training. It never used to be this crappy.

by geetar85 on Mar 24, 2008 4:54 PM CDT reply actions  

No doubt!

...it's the weekend, so why the hell not?

by Rodney on Mar 24, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Murton over Byrd?

Does anybody else have an inkling that Byrd is not going to return to what he was early last year? It has always been in the back of my mind... Murton might have been worth it to go after.

by geetar85 on Mar 24, 2008 5:00 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree.

Last was Byrd's career year. He will go back to his normal self this year. JD will try to trade him at the deadline and only hear laughter coming from the other end of the phoneline.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by RangerMad on Mar 24, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

poor Nellie Cruz

The last thing he needed to do was hit .211 this spring.
He never seems to "get it" in the bigs.

I hereby deem you Benny Brou Ha Ha<---Wash thinks you can hit lefties....in 2 months time you will be a full fledged Brouhaha..trust me on that one.

by LAMuscleFag on Mar 24, 2008 5:06 PM CDT reply actions  

if he wasnt goign to make the team either way

he may as well have a bad spring.

If he had hit 350 the rangers might have still released him, but it would have been a great likelihood for him to get picked up.

he might slip through. id like to keep him around for another season.

by DShep on Mar 24, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll admit

I'm frustrated that he failed to land a spot. And I'll keep an eye on where he ends up, still thinking he has a near unlimited capability. I even wonder if playing winter ball and then the Carib series (a year round stint) didn't wear him down some, although realizing his AB's showed only greater patience to take walks, his power bursts just didn't make it to Arizona.

'At Georgia Southern, we don't cheat. That costs money and we don't have any.' Erk Russell / Georgia Southern

by Ed Coffin on Mar 24, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Possible?

OF of Borbon, Beltre and Hamilton someday?

by shroomer on Mar 24, 2008 5:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Beltre...

I'd like to see him do something first.

Milton Bradley for MVP

by miles on Mar 24, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jack Benny

is back!

I hereby deem you Benny Brou Ha Ha<---Wash thinks you can hit lefties....in 2 months time you will be a full fledged Brouhaha..trust me on that one.

by LAMuscleFag on Mar 24, 2008 5:22 PM CDT reply actions  

2 K's

sitdown...and....shutyermouth!

...it's the weekend, so why the hell not?

by Rodney on Mar 24, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Robbie T..

blows a 95 mph fastball past hitter for first out.

I hereby ordain you Benny Brou Ha Ha<-----Wash thinks you can hit lefties....in 2 months time you will be a full fledged Brouhaha..trust me on that one.

by LAMuscleFag on Mar 24, 2008 5:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Followed up by a pie triple

he looked like soriano on that swing.

hamilton looked good running after it but there was no getting to that ball.

by DShep on Mar 24, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

+ 1

I hereby ordain you Benny Brou Ha Ha<-----Wash thinks you can hit lefties....in 2 months time you will be a full fledged Brouhaha..trust me on that one.

by LAMuscleFag on Mar 24, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tedeja

compared to the last game, he is keeping the ball down much better.

" Winning doesn't always mean being first,
winning means you are doing better than you have done before"

by coolaid on Mar 24, 2008 5:36 PM CDT reply actions  

And the raaaaaaaangers lose

Tejeda gives up back to back hits to lose the game.

oh well.

by DShep on Mar 24, 2008 5:38 PM CDT reply actions  

On

the broadcast, it sounded like the game winning hit was a leaker that just got past one of the infielders. Etai happens. :) Maybe Tejeda IS getting his head, hands, and command in better shape.

'At Georgia Southern, we don't cheat. That costs money and we don't have any.' Erk Russell / Georgia Southern

by Ed Coffin on Mar 24, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be wonderful

because he is awesome when his head, hands, and command are clicking.

by RingoRanger on Mar 24, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

How in the world

can they NOT give Murphy a starting job?

II Cor. 4:17-18

by TedFord on Mar 24, 2008 6:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Engel Beltre

was this his first 2 at bats of the year? how did he look, anybody that saw him???

"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."

by Walter Sobchak on Mar 24, 2008 6:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Swung at every pitch he saw

1st AB - 1st pitch fly to medium-deep RF gap.

2nd AB - hit 2nd or 3rd pitch for a hard grounder right at the 2Bman - Beltre made it close - quick like bunny.

I think he just had 1 or 2 routine chances in the OF. On Pie's 9th inning triple, Beltre hustled like a dog to get to the ball at the RF gap fence. I wonder, if MY had relayed his throw in if Pie could have made it to 3rd. Good hustle by Beltre.

by shroomer on Mar 24, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW

He looked pretty composed - not jittery or nervous at all.

by shroomer on Mar 24, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

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