Tuesday a.m. things

by Adam J. Morris on Mar 25, 2008 9:01 AM CDT Comment 17 comments

Evan Grant reports that the Cubs have come talking to the Rangers again about Marlon Byrd, but Jon Daniels isn't budging on what he wants in return for Byrd. Grant says that Daniels wants Donald Veal, Sean Gallagher, or Jose Ceda, along with Matt Murton, for Byrd.

That seems rather aggressive, to me...but it also highlights that the Rangers don't think Murton has much, if any, value.

Grant also reports that the deal with John Patterson is done, and Patterson can request his release if he's not in the majors by June 15.

Jim Reeves likes the addition of Patterson, apparently because Mark Connor -- Patterson's first pitching coach when he was with the D-Backs -- likes the pickup.

Jeff Wilson has a bit of a puff piece in the S-T about Nolan Ryan being around.

Robinson Tejeda apparently didn't impress yesterday. There's a line of thought out there that suggests that the bullpen will end up consisting of Wilson, Benoit, Fukumori, Guardado, Wright, German, and Tejeda. It is worth noting that, of that group, only Fukumori and Wilson have options, and neither of those guys is likely to be sent down.

So if the Rangers end up in a situation where the bullpen is gassed and they need a fresh arm, they aren't going to be able to simply option a long man to AAA and bring someone new up, as they have in past years.

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the Byrd is the word

I tend to agree with Daniels. but I think now might be the time to "sweeten" the pot for the cubs. We have some depth options in the low minors, maybe we have each team include a throw-in. ours could be Jesse Hall

by iblum on Mar 25, 2008 9:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Evan

Who is taking the 5th starter's spot in the bullpen for the first two weeks of the season?

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by RangerMad on Mar 25, 2008 9:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

We signed the wrong Patterson

to a minor league deal.

Corey's gonna tear it up in Cincy this year.

BORP's rule.

Jason Botts PWNS.

by thedirkatron on Mar 25, 2008 9:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Fast guys with no ability to play baseball, Drool.

He will fail.

"Before I leave, I once again condemn the despicable buffoonery of D.J. Cahill." - Huck

by DJCahill on Mar 25, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We were stuck indefinitely with Marlon the minute...

...the first fan started waving his arms after a Byrd at-bat. It's the same reasoning that guarantees we will see Mench ("Hey he's got a big head and looks like he's having fun out there!) sparing it up in the outfield at some point before the AS break.

It reminds me of the final Rangers home game last season when the guy in front of me acted like the moment MY got that all-important 200th hit he was thrust into the company of the greatest players in major league history.

Right around the time all the young talent is ready to contend is when the organization will realize that Ron Washington is the wrong man for the job.

by Chad Crudup on Mar 25, 2008 10:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ho-hum.

Let's get the season started.

If I owned a lightsaber, the blade color would be black light, so that I could use it to fight evil and to liven-up parties.

by rooster on Mar 25, 2008 10:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Daniels is doing the right thing by being aggressive,

no doubts in my mind about that. But couldnt he just ask for one of those pitchers minus Murton? I'd do that any day of the week.

Are the cubbies still in talks with us even though they are looking at Reed Johnson?

Adam loves him some Lard

by NYTXFAN on Mar 25, 2008 12:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Cubs Sign Reed Johnson
12:35pm: Levine now reports that the Cubs have signed Johnson. For a team focused on winning now, it's not a bad move. Only drawback might be the Murton situation. Meanwhile, Evan Grant says the Rangers reduced their demands for Marlon Byrd but the Cubs still decided to pass.

Well there you have it. Good try JD but it didnt work.

Adam loves him some Lard

by NYTXFAN on Mar 25, 2008 12:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

JD overplayed his

hand. He knows Byrd is going to suck this year. Lets hope he doesn't do the same with Laird.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by RangerMad on Mar 25, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't understand that sentiment

How did he overplay his hand? He likes Byrd's versatility, since you've gotta figure this team's gonna need a RH OF to split some time with Hambone in CF, and Murton is a spare. How is JD not wanting to trade his spare for someone else's spare "overplaying his hand"?

Jason Botts PWNS.

by thedirkatron on Mar 25, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not only that

but Byrd is a popular player and seems to be a team leader. It's one of those intangible things. So it doesn't seem to be a good idea to straight up trade a spare with good intangibles for a spare without those intangibles. Now, if you could trade Byrd and get someone like Carlos Zambrano back, then you do it (not saying that particular trade could ever happen, but I think my point was made).

by Inkara1 on Mar 25, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

JD knew there would be

OFs available at the end of ST. He way overvalues Byrd as do most around here. He should have started dropping his demands last week. He probably could have gotten Murton and an AA semi-prospect pitcher. He could have then flipped Murton at the deadline for another pitcher. Byrd has no future here and his value will drop significantly between now and the ASB.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by RangerMad on Mar 25, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

by Adam J. Morris on Mar 25, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

+ 1

I hereby ordain you Benny Brou Ha Ha<-----Wash thinks you can hit lefties....in 2 months time you will be a full fledged Brouhaha..trust me on that one.

by LAMuscleFag on Mar 25, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs