Opening Day Lineup and Releases
T.R. Sullivan has posted the Rangers' Opening Day lineup. Nothing like seeing your first baseman hitting 9th...and we'll see how long Washington rolls with Broussard playing regularly against lefties...
Also of note is Hank the Bank hitting cleanup.
Sullivan also says that Jason Davis, Edgardo Alfonzo, and Chris Stewart have been released. The release of Stewart is surprising, but I guess he's been deemed superfluous. I imagine he'll catch on elsewhere.
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Doooooooooooomed
6)LF David Murphy
7)RF Marlon Byrd
8)C Gerald Laird
9)1B Ben Broussard
.500 or bust!
by Jayslick on Mar 27, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why?
are they doomed? There's 2 decent hitters in there.
Fishing in the rivers of life. All bound for Mu Mu Land.
by Escher on Mar 27, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"2 decent hitters"....
out of 4 thats not good.
its 50/50
does any1 think laird is a starter on a playoff team? or any of those guys?
murphy i like a lot always have even when we couldnt get him in the draft and im excited about, byrd is decent, nothing more on a good team. laird had a full season last year and sucked. benbrus was acquired for peanuts and i think i already hate him. yuck
thats why i say doooooomed
.500 or bust!
by Jayslick on Mar 27, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying
that the bottom of this order is going to go out and score 3 to 6 runs every game, but I think dooooooomed is a little strong.
Fishing in the rivers of life. All bound for Mu Mu Land.
by Escher on Mar 27, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate that argument
does any1 think laird is a starter on a playoff team? or any of those guys?
Eckstein has won 2 world series for 2 different teams. Enough said. First of all there are no black holes in the offense even if there is no studs at the bottom and our top 5 looks very good this year. David Murphy I'm convinced is going to be a .290-.310 hitter this year with 40-50 extra base hits. Byrd should hover above .270 which is acceptable with a tiny bit of pop. Laird cannot possibly be as bad as he was last year and Broussard when he last was an everyday starter, was an acceptable first baseman. With a platoon of Cat and Botts in there, we can maximize everyone's potential as well.
by slimshadty12 on Mar 27, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
does any1 think laird is a starter on a playoff team? or any of those guys?
Starting catchers on last year's playoff teams included Yorvit Torrealba, Mike Napoli, Jason Kendall, and Chris Snyder. I'm not convinced any of them are significantly better than Laird.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 27, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mixed thoughts...
I think that Byrd will be better suited hitting 6th if/when he gets out of his slump and Murph will be a good turn over at the 7 spot, even if Laird just sacrifices him over and Broussard flies out, we have Kinsler at the top with a nice OBP to bring him in.
Regardless, I think that we may be forgetting that this is not a "competing" year and 6 runs a game aren't going to be the norm. I for one am getting comfortable with an average 6-2 or 8-3 loss as the norm.
"But the major difference is where Showalter tried to overthink everything Washington at times seems like he isn't thinking at all. " - rentz
by hillcrest on Mar 27, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Next track for OC, et al:
Del tha Funkee Homosapien - Catch A Bad One
by Chase Irwin on Mar 27, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
marlon byrd 7th
that seems somewhat enlightened. The whole lineup does actually.
Even Blalock/Bradley makes sense from lefty/righty standpoint and the idea that bradley might need some time to get acclimated before assuming the larger burden.
Personally, I won't believe it till I see it. Otherwise, good on ya Wash
by ab03 on Mar 27, 2008 2:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lefty/righty
How is having both your 3 and 4 hitter being left handed a good thing? It makes it that much easier for an opposing manager to navigate that stretch of the lineup in the late innings.
by bigsteve on Mar 27, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
Thats why I said 3 and 4 hitters (Hamilton and Blalock). They are both lefties. Plugging Bradley in between them would not allow a manager to bring in a lefty specialist to go against 2 lefties back to back
by bigsteve on Mar 27, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I
Stand corrected. My mind is taking the rest of the afternoon off. Please, leave a message after the beep
What?
by camartin44 on Mar 27, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bradley is 5th
at least in the roster listed here.
3/4 of hamilton/blalock could be brutal against lefties.
though hank has had some success here and there against lefties and its too early to right off hamilton v lefties. but for now its looking scary.
I like that lineup a lot vs righties though.
Very nice to see wash come around on MY hitting 2nd, kinsler leading off and such. but the broussard vs lefties nonsense needs to stop immediately. let botts get in there.
by DSheppard on Mar 27, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whats more
your lineup goes:
1) R
2) R
3) L
4) L
5) S
6) L
7) R
8) R
9) L
On another note, if Broussard is your righty killer, shouldn't he bat higher than 9th?
by iblum on Mar 27, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bedard is a lefty
ok, so I'm an idiot.
so, why is Botts sitting against a lefty? or is it that they don't want to say, Jason, Here, you get to start on opening day. on the other hand, WTF is murphy starting against a tough lefty? there's a guarenteed 0 for 5 day.
So, if Broussard is being batted 9th against a lefty? why not bat him 8th and Murphy 9th? Your opening day bench is Melhuse, Botts, Catalanotto, and Vazquez. That's 2 lefties and 2 switch hitters (though Melhuse won't see action as there's only 2 catchers on the roster, and Vazquez is really only for if one of Blalock, Young, or Kinsler gets hurt. So, Bedard gets replaced by a right handed releaver and you need a lefty pinch hitter. that really only leaves catalonotto. But, I'd rather have started Botts in left and Byrd in RF against bedard if you have to have Broussard in the lineup.
by iblum on Mar 27, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Botts
Hes sitting because he is the 25th man on the roster. Broussard is the everyday 1B and has been since we traded for him. Washington has come out with that numerous times. Yes he has historically struggled against them but Wash is going to give him a chance to play everyday until he shows he can't hack it against them.
Just because Botts made the team doesn't mean he is going to play regularly. Murphy is by far a better outfielder and actually holds his own against lefties.
If you switch Bradley and Blalock and then switch Murphy and Byrd you have a good lineup. No back to back lefties.
Plus why would you need a lefty pinch hitter? The only right handed hitter in the lineup who you would consider pinch hitting for based solely on matchups is Laird. But I don't imagine you do that on Opening Day.
by bigsteve on Mar 27, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
the idea that bradley might need some time to get acclimated before assuming the larger burden.
I guess batting 5th is pretty insignificant to batting 4th
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
by RangerMad on Mar 27, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
all i can say is..
EWWW
that lineup is ok against a righty, but not against a left hander that can pitch like bedard
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
by rentz on Mar 27, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
We still have yet to see Blalock perform well consistently against lefties.
Gig 'Em Aggies! 2010
by aggierangerfan00 on Mar 27, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lefty Righty Slipts
Looking over Bedard's career numbers as well as last year's numbers, he doesn't have a greater advantage against left handers, in fact, last year...left handers faired better against him. Lefty's had an OPS of .696 while Righty's only managed a .594. Obviously, many of the weaker lefty's will sit against Bedard, as plate appearances for Left handers was far less than Righty's.
That being said, I don't think the lineup is what I'd throw out there. BB would be riding the bench, and JB (who hits lefty's at a much better clip) and flipping Hank and Bradley. Is Washington trying to give confidence early on to BB by keeping him in there? Looks like it
by Doc Mabee on Mar 27, 2008 2:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not really
id like to see the list of teams with great 7-8-9s thats not the yankees. better than the rangers? sure but ive seen worse too.
just get broussard out of there.
by DSheppard on Mar 27, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right about one thing for sure...
just get broussard out of there.
I don't know how Wash can justify playing broussard against lefties while leaving botts on the bench (who even hits better as a righty then a lefty). I mean, why did we use a roster spot on botts if he doesn't get on the field in this situation?
by TexasTiger on Mar 27, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock
Let's hope he's matured enough to behave in that slot.
A working class hero is something to be.
by t ball on Mar 27, 2008 2:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Alfonzo
released, sigh of relief.
A working class hero is something to be.
by t ball on Mar 27, 2008 2:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jesus Christ
Calm down. Some may think it quaint or banal, but I think there's a certain respect that should be afforded a player, particularly when he's been given a promise by his manager, even at the cost of a single game.
I think Washington is being incredibly consistent here. He noted long ago that Broussard would start everyday until he proves he can't. I realize how many here feel about him, but if the club, and Broussard himself, feel that a significant factor in his lack of production is sporadic playing time, then they're absolutely making the right decision here, particularly when the backup (because that's what he is) has yet to prove very much in his limited appearances.
If Broussard flops, fine, but don't let it be caused or exacerbated solely by the fact that his backup, who barely made the team, is a fan favorite.
by brettgardner on Mar 27, 2008 3:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Heh
The majority of this board wrote off Broussard at the moment he was signed.
Next track for OC, et al:
Del tha Funkee Homosapien - Catch A Bad One
by Chase Irwin on Mar 27, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*traded for
Next track for OC, et al:
Del tha Funkee Homosapien - Catch A Bad One
by Chase Irwin on Mar 27, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't heard a peep
on this board from Jesus Christ, why are you telling him to calm down?
A working class hero is something to be.
by t ball on Mar 27, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
I got confused. Your avatar reminds me that some here are bigger than Jesus.
by brettgardner on Mar 27, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We
haven't heard a peep out of him in a while, either, sadly.
A working class hero is something to be.
by t ball on Mar 27, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of which . . .
has Sharky posted since the new LSB format began?
by Randy Richardson on Mar 27, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He posted a couple comments
in the welcome thing, but haven't seen him otherwise.
A working class hero is something to be.
by t ball on Mar 27, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I
don't see why Melhuse was kept insted of Stewart. Stewart's defense is better and thats what the backups primary job is?
"Texas Rangers 2012 World Series Champs!"- ME.
by Kinslerhomer on Mar 27, 2008 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wash
loves him some Melhuse. I agree with you, I'd prefer Stewart for that reason.
Melhuse has him out-intangibled though.
Next track for OC, et al:
Del tha Funkee Homosapien - Catch A Bad One
by Chase Irwin on Mar 27, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
never thought of that
i guess a manager has enough clout to secure the backup catcher's job for his own boy. but that still sucks - i wonder if manny acta has favorites (my personal choice for manager last year)
by ab03 on Mar 27, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First Basemen Batting 9th
While this organization is not used to winning, we're also not used to having to bat our first basemen 9th. We've had a pretty good history of first basemen on this team, at least in my lifetime.
Please BB, give us something.
by Chris Hanes on Mar 27, 2008 3:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry
It should only be a temporary thing as davis should pole vault into the middle of the lineup when he arrives as early as September or at the latest next March
by bigsteve on Mar 27, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boooo...
I imagine he'll catch on elsewhere.
I was wondering what had happened to Stewart, though. I'd have rather seen him called up last year than signing Melhuse. Not sure how much we needed/need his veteran leadership in a clubhouse absolutely stacked at catcher.
by MeanMr.Mustard on Mar 27, 2008 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
clubhouse
You realize there will only be 2 catchers in the clubhouse right?
by bigsteve on Mar 27, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Next track for OC, et al:
Del tha Funkee Homosapien - Catch A Bad One
by Chase Irwin on Mar 27, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have much rather seen
Chris Stewart as the backup catcher than Adam Melhuse.
In fact, I thought Melhuse would be the backup of the future, once Laird is traded and before Salty and Teagarden have to slug it out over the catcher's role. So this comes as a huge suprise to me.
We may be stacked at catcher, but of our catchers, only two are ML-ready: Laird and Salty. After that, the closest ones are Teagarden, who is a year off at least, more since he can't play in AAA for half this season) and Max Ramirez (who is gonna wind up a DH, not a a catcher in the Majors).
by lonestarJon on Mar 27, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Typo correction: I thought Stewart* would be the backup of the future
by lonestarJon on Mar 27, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Melhuise
Hes fine with me. He's the backup catcher. He may play 25 games this year. He's apparantly good in the clubhouse which is really all you can ask for from your backup catcher. If Laird gets injured Salty will come up so its not like we are going to be stuck watching Melhuise night in and night out.
by bigsteve on Mar 27, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Even though Melhuse doesn't play much, he's really too far gone to be catching. People complain about Salty's inability to throw - but Melhuse is the one I dread having behind the plate.
The only reason he's on the team is he's a Ron Washington favorite. Heck, that's the only reason we went and got him last season.
by lonestarJon on Mar 27, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
Hes the BACKUP CATCHER!!! How many teams have a gold glover as a backup? Im not trying to be an ass but complaining about who the backup catcher is going to be is just dumb.
by bigsteve on Mar 27, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just saying
Stewart would have been a better backup than Melhuse. By a lot.
And Laird would make a better backup than both of them.
by lonestarJon on Mar 27, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like
you're just finding any decision to bitch about. Seems to me that it's hard to be upset over a choice between two guys that no other team has wanted in the past year (both were available on waivers last year). Supposedly, Melhuse is a good "game-caller" and clubhouse guy - so seems like the team went with the intangibles guy.
by Randy Richardson on Mar 27, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not trying to "find an excuse to bitch"
I just always kind of liked Chris Stewart as a backup. And I'm suprised they outright released him, when our backup catcher is a pretty terrible player. Just making an observation, that's all.
You know what I think? I think you're just trying to find an excuse to bitch about any comments I make.
by lonestarJon on Mar 27, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You like Stewart . . .
So you're admitting that you have favorites? The same thing you constantly rail against Wash for.
by Randy Richardson on Mar 27, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say that
I said "I've always liked him as a backup catcher".
That doesn't mean he's a favorite player. It means I think he's well suited for the backup role (good defender, strong arm, but doesn't hit a lot... kind of like Laird). I think he could have been usefull in that role - more useful than Melhuse. That's all I'm saying.
So go find someone elses posts to pick apart, will ya? Because there's nothing to see here.
by lonestarJon on Mar 27, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The point is . . .
I think it's pretty clear that these guys are both marginal backup catchers. You have a preference based on the reasons you mentioned (which we'll assume to be true). The Rangers have their reasons based on intangibles such as game-calling, mentoring younger pitchers and Laird, clubhouse guy. The Rangers position is no less defensible than yours.
by Randy Richardson on Mar 27, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: the opening day lineup
You know what's wierd? That's almost the exact same lineup I roll with on MLB '06: The Show. The only difference is, I have Milton Bradley in RF, and Botts at DH. And I platoon Byrd and Murphy.
Side by side:
Opening day / My PS2 Lineup
1. Kinsler / 1. Kinsler
2. Young / 2. Young
3. Hammy / 3. Hammy
4. Blalock / 4. Blalock
5. Bradley / 5. Bradley
6. Murphy / 6. Murphy
7. Byrd / 7. Botts
8. Laird / 8. Laird
9. Broussard / 9. Broussard
Ever since I had to take Salty off my active roster though, and play Laird at catcher, I haven't been getting much production out of the bottom of the lineup. Although Botts is hitting .347 (I'm only in mid-April in my season). But Laird and Broussard have been an offensive vacume for me so far. As I suspect they will be in real life.
by lonestarJon on Mar 27, 2008 5:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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