The new BP
The new BP just arrived, and my (very) initial reaction is disappointment.
The Rangers chapter is basically a Cliff's Notes history of the franchise's ownership history and recent foibles, including stating that the Rangers have made "one huge steal of a trade" in getting Michael Young, but otherwise have just given away talent in the last 10 years or so, and includes in this "the delusional deal that sent closer Francisco Cordero to Milwaukee for two months of Carlos Lee amid a losing season"...I know BP isn't a monolithic haven of groupthink, but I'm pretty sure that deal was praised by several authors at the time.
Then I get to the player comments for the Rangers. Elvis Andrus is the first one, and his comment consists entirely of:
And I'm thinking...really? This is the best the folks at BP can come up with?
The book is only $12, but I've been disappointed with it the last year or two, and I'm starting to think I'd be better served passing on the print edition and sticking with the website.
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I had been waffling on buying the book
Thanks Adam!
by jamcadbury on Mar 4, 2008 7:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
OUCH
by miles on Mar 4, 2008 7:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I admitedly do not have a BP subscription
by lonestarJon on Mar 4, 2008 7:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
exactly
i really like the chats.
i dont like what i have seen in the book.
by knockoutking24 on Mar 4, 2008 7:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Dang it...
by rangeressary on Mar 4, 2008 7:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
BP
The intro piece was also weak- after finishing it, I thought "wow, I've just spent five minutes reading a bunch of stuff I already knew, other than the name of the guy who owned the Senators before Bob Short." I'm glad I'm not alone in having that reaction.
The rest of the book is very good- overall, I think it's better than the last couple editions- but whoever wrote the Rangers chapter did a poor job, and I think that's been the case for several years now.
by RCCook on Mar 4, 2008 7:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Does Galloway
by t ball on Mar 4, 2008 7:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
As one of the unwashed
Rob thinks the overall product is good, and the Rangers' chapter not so good. The quotes in Adam's post sound a little like shock jock blabber.
by Ed Coffin on Mar 4, 2008 7:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I've read the book for a few years
by tricer on Mar 4, 2008 8:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've read the book for a few years
by tricer on Mar 4, 2008 8:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 4, 2008 8:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
However...
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 4, 2008 8:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why
Who is that?
by miles on Mar 4, 2008 8:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A poster at NMLR
His posts generally center around a theme of historical organizational ineptitude, perpetuated currently by an incompetent owner who won't spend the money that should be spent.
It is also the main character in, and namesake of, a Clint Eastwood movie.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 4, 2008 9:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so its Lbrooks' other username?
by knockoutking24 on Mar 5, 2008 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Now!
This organization has been historically inept and their current owner is the biggest problem with this thing but Boy Blunder is a close second.
I went by Barnes & Noble yesterday and thumbed thru the Rangers section and yes, did give a knowing laugh to myself when I read what they had to say about both Tom Hicks and JD. Not so sure the boys at BP consider JD to be "an up and comer."
I'm waiting until I go to Arizona before I buy it because I want to hear what an unbiased source has to say about not only the Ranger prospects but everybody else's prospects as well.
by Josey Wales on Mar 5, 2008 10:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
my point is
and it should be better considering their projection system (PECOTA) has andrus as one of the best prospects in baseball in the very near future (or did last year)
to have a guy who is pretty much a top 20 prospect in the game have a deal that bad is sad.
by knockoutking24 on Mar 5, 2008 11:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Personally...
I like to read what the homers think about the kids but I also like to read what unbiased sources who have no relationship with the players or their family have to say.
Reading what national writers think about our ownership and GM is also a good.
by Josey Wales on Mar 5, 2008 12:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
you have got to be a troll.
by knockoutking24 on Mar 5, 2008 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Your definition...
My opinions are not always correct but they are generally informed.
I've written it many times and will do so again...I'd rather my opinions be right than popular.
by Josey Wales on Mar 5, 2008 12:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
just a question:
...why do you even show up here?
...why do you spend time writing about them?
...why do you watch/listen/read about their games?
by knockoutking24 on Mar 5, 2008 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a very...
As for their supposed "leadership," I was quite a fan of Tom Hicks until the year 2000. Kinda gone downhill since then.
JD is a bleeping joke and would have been better off staying with Dunkin' Donuts instead of coming to the Texas Rangers.
I show up here because I can, I enjoy writing about baseball and I love to watch/listen/read about their games.
My voice is very important on these forums because nobody could ever accuse me of being a cheerleader.
My opinions are informed and often times ruffle feathers because the truth can hurt. Deal with it.
by Josey Wales on Mar 5, 2008 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
your voice is important?
Get over yourself.
These forums manage very nicely without your posts. Outside of Adam, and Zywica, and maybe Sharky, there aren't a whole lot of important voices here.
by DJCahill on Mar 5, 2008 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this same unbiased source
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7204
by tricer on Mar 5, 2008 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
also disappointed, but not surprised
I just read on their site their organizational rankings, which put the rangers at number 3, up from number 22 the year before. (of course they put Oakland at number 2, which I don't see)
About Elvis Andrus. He's not rated as the best prospect in the Rangers system, he's rated as number 3, behind Neftali Perez and Eric Hurley. Perez is basically where Hurley was last year, before he failed to dominate AAA. He's also 2 years away, and this is his second notation. If he is uber, and beats up AA pitching and earns a midseason promotion to AAA along with a major league call-up in September, then we'll see a bit more from them.
Personally, I'm hoping that the depth we have this year translates into some explosions on the farm and 3 or 4 of our pitchers making the big leap up to AA and beyond. Judging by whats available, its possible. combine that with another strong Draft Class and 2009-2010 could be very hopeful years for the rangers, much the way 2008-2009 is looking for the Rays.
I did notice one other thing reading through the various pitchers reports. Both Millwood and Padilla had the worst years of their careers last year. A significant bounce back from the two of them might put this team, whose weakness is perennially pitching, back into contention.
Ira
by iblum on Mar 5, 2008 12:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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