Julio Borbon and Franklyn German: Hold Those Horses
"Spring Training." Those two words when combined get me about as excited as any other words in the English vocabulary. Hope springs eternal. We all believe that our team has a "chance" of making the playoffs and we all think that if everything falls into place and there's a little bit of magic mixed in, this just might end up being the Rangers best season ever.
Unfortunately, this excitement blinds our minds and we start to seeing potential and possibility instead of concrete reality. The early responses to Julio Borbon and Franklyn German are fine examples of this type of spring training blindness.
Let's begin by looking at Julio Borbon. There's no doubt that Julio Borbon is a good athlete. He's very quick and was whenever he played at the university that I most closely follow and support, Tennessee. He's got a 1.278 OPS at this point in spring training, with a home run, and seven RBIs. That's awesome, in fact, that's about as awesome as you can be in nine at bats. But that's what we have to remember. It's only nine at bats. Borbon has the speed and athleticism to be a very good defensive center fielder. But let's not think that nine spring training at bats will somehow trump his college career.
Here's another number from Borbon that you might not know, but is slightly larger than his nine spring training at bats. The number is 37. That's his total number of walks in three complete seasons at Tennessee. When averaged against his plate appearances, he would have the lowest walk rate of anyone on the Rangers in 2007, and that was against college pitching. His percentage actually declined in his final year of college. That's not good. Surprisingly, one of his ten plate appearances in spring training was a walk. That one walk does not trump his college career.
So whenever I read esteemed writers like Sullivan say, "The Rangers have a definite and legitimate prospect in centerfield," I'm not going to disagree, but I'm going to chime in and say, "let's hold those horses." Borbon, even if he has an amazing year in A ball this year and AA ball next season, won't see the major leagues until September 2010. So whereas, he is a "prospect" at this point, I'm not so convinced by nine spring training events that I'm willing to call him a legitimate centerfield prospect at this point. After all, the B game pitchers he is facing are most likely the same level as the pitchers he will face in A and AA ball during the next two seasons. Let's see a little more before making such confident pronouncements.
Another fine example of spring training blindness is Franklyn German. Sullivan calls him "a big hit in camp so far." Schiller thinks "he can make the team...due to his play," and MLB.com gave him a whole article dedicated to how he has been "impressive" thus far. With all of the praise thus far, he must have done something really amazing right? Well, yeah...at least as amazing as you can be in only three innings.
German is now 28 years old. He first pitched in the minors ten years ago. He pitched in his first major league game six years ago. The scouting report on German has changed little during the last ten years. He's got some major heat, but he can't control it. When he cranks up to 98mph, there is no telling where the ball will end up. That's why in AAA for the Redhawks last year he had a walk rate of 7.02. That's really high. Of course, his K rate was really high as well (10.92). He hasn't pitched in the majors since 2006, and then only for 12 innings. He has one successful season in the majors, which came in 2005, as a reliever for the Tigers. He put up a 3.66 ERA in 59 IP. He also had a much reduced K rate that season (5.80), with a walk rate just behind it (5.19). That would be fine, but let's not forget that came three years ago in Comerica, which is clearly a pitchers park.
I'm just as excited about everyone else that baseball season is quickly approaching. I personally can't wait to wake up every morning, log into Slingplayer and watch the games. But let's not jump the gun and think these guys who have been playing against "B" game players, many of whom are still trying to get into playing shape, are future stars. German, may be able to fill a hole when needed, but he's no longer the prospect that he was in 2002, and most likely won't make the team. Borbon has a lot of questions to still be answered, and needs to show that he can play A ball before we start talking about him as a "legitimate" centerfield prospect.
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umm
yes - either borbon or e beltre are legit prospects
by knockoutking24 on Mar 9, 2008 4:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Beltre
Still, Sullivan was talking about Borbon and not Beltre. Anyways, whereas college players drafted in the first round have a much higher percentage of making the majors, the majority still never see even a single at bat in the majors.
If you look at those players taken 35th overall during the past ten years, only one has made the majors, Aaron Rowand. So even though he may eventually develop into a legitimate major league prospect, simply being drafted in the first round and having a decent college career combined with nine spring training at bats can give you that definition.
by rangeressary on Mar 9, 2008 4:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like this...
See, for one thing, it's not surprising that no players taken 35th in the past 1-3 years has had a major league at bat, and, to a lesser extent, that's true of people taken in the last 5 years. An 18 yo taken 10 years ago would only be 28.
For another thing, to take one draft slot in isolation doesn't say a whole lot because draft picks in general don't often pan out.
by benmor78 on Mar 9, 2008 5:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can do broader
Here is the percentage of all outfielders taken in the first round that ever had a single at bat in the majors from 1992-2002 (thus giving them time to make the majors):
1992 - 64%
1993 - 58%
1994 - 100% (only 6 were taken in the first 40 picks, isn't that odd?)
1995 - 50%
1996 - 33%
1997 - 45%
1998 - 73%
1999 - 63%
2000 - 60%
2001 - 75%
2002 - 75%
Total (1992-2002) - 58%
Now, the vast majority (well over 50%) of these outfielders who made the majors have under 250 total major league at bats. Of course, when you refine the numbers just to include centerfielders the stats drop even more due to their being drafted above value since they play a premium defensive position.
So yes, singling out the 35th pick is a small sample size, but even when you include every outfielder drafted in the first round over a ten year period (far enough back that they should have made the majors), you still have only three in five ever reaching the majors.
So to proclaim that a guy who has yet to see any real major league pitching, and who hasn't even had a full season of A ball as a "legitimate" major league prospect is a bit of a stretch.
by rangeressary on Mar 9, 2008 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa....
i mean seriously, how many Prospects have seen major league pitching? if they see more than a little bit of it, it DISQUALIFIES them from being a prospect technically
by slash on Mar 10, 2008 3:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
btw
"So to proclaim that a guy who has yet to see any real major league pitching, and who hasn't even had a full season of A ball as a "legitimate" major league prospect is a bit of a stretch."
that is the argument that you're making that i disagree with.....but kudos on the diary, good writing and etc......haven't seen anybody claiming borbon to be the second coming anywhere but nonetheless...good diary
by slash on Mar 10, 2008 3:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand what you are saying...
I'm just saying that for someone to call him "a legitimate and definite" major league prospect at this point is a stretch IMO.
There are just so many examples of guys who were phenomenal in high school and college, and even great in A ball, yet never made the majors because they just couldn't cut it. So whereas I'll say he's greatly talented, has a ton of major-league quality speed and a bat that will hopefully translate into major-league quality, I'm not at this point willing to say he's definite yet.
by rangeressary on Mar 10, 2008 4:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So basically
You take umbrage with the "legitimate" designation.
In your book, what is the difference between a "prospect" and a "legitimate prospect"?
by thedirkatron on Mar 10, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
by jamcadbury on Mar 9, 2008 4:10 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Very nice article
I agree with most of your points, too - it's too early to start proclaiming Borbon the next great CF, but he is a very exciting player with a lot of promise. The way his spring has gone makes it hard not to at least say "wow". But he does need plate discipline badly - but hey, that's what the minor league are for, to help players work out their kinks.
Franklyn German, though - I think everybody is looking at the radar gun, and not at the other statistics. And all his other statistics say this guy will never learn to control his stuff. My two biggest problems with him are A: he's a walk machine - his career BB total actually outweighs his career K total (106/99) and B: his physiqe - the Rangers website lists him a 6'7", 260, but from what I've heard, the more realistic number is 300 lbs. I'm not sure how he'd do pitching in the heat and humidity of Texas all season, or how long his legs will last supporting a frame like that.
He may be having a good spring, but I'm just not convinced he's a solution for the major league bullpen - I think the Rangers need to be sticking with the guys that proved they had something last season - Wes Littleton and Frankie Francisco - with Josh Rupe, who everyone says has filthy stuff, in the mix if he can rebound from his poor outing the other day. But putting a 300 pound dude with an uncontollable (albeit zinging) fastball in the bullpen based on one good month in spring training just doesn't sound like a good idea to me. I'd keep him in AAA to start the year, and if he continues to showcase his improved control, bring him up when we need an arm. But one good month after a careers worth of wildness and inconsistency shouldn't land this guy a spot in the bullpen.
by lonestarJon on Mar 9, 2008 4:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
37 walks... one in every 200 PA's
by thedirkatron on Mar 9, 2008 4:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
LOL
by rangeressary on Mar 9, 2008 5:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
to be honest
by DSheppard on Mar 9, 2008 5:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
German
by Excel Hearts Choi on Mar 9, 2008 9:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree for the most part on Borbon
It's not a big deal, but I'm just saying that if Borbon doesn't make the Rangers in 3 years or less, he won't make the Rangers at all, especially given his 40-man status.
Here's how I think he'll progress: he'll spend most of this season in A ball (either Clinton or Bakersfield--I think I've read they're leaning toward Bakersfield) and then maybe finish in Frisco if he does well. Regardless, I think next year, unless he sucks, he starts at Double-A, maybe finishing in AAA Oklahoma or even a September call-up in late 2009. I imagine he'd be competing for a big-league job in spring training of 2010.
A difference of a season and a half, I know, but I think the Rangers will try to get him up rather quickly unless his sucking says otherwise.
by naropean on Mar 9, 2008 9:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, I meant September 2010
My speculation would be that he will be spending most of this season at Bakersfield (all of it unless they start him at Clinton). They have no reason to rush him. Next season will be spent in Frisco, and unless he is phenomenal prompting some time in AAA, next season will end in Frisco. Spring 2010 will be spent in OKC and eventually either in the summer or as a September callup he will come to Arlington.
by rangeressary on Mar 9, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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