Feldman getting the start?

by NYTXFAN on Apr 11, 2008 8:52 PM CDT

What jumped out at me is this quote from Daniels: "Toward the end of Spring Training something clicked with his new [three-quarter] arm slot," Daniels said. "We'd like to give him more time, but he's the best option we have right now."

The best option? What is he high? Is he seriously the best option? I really dont think so. Shit, Murray, Hurley, or Harrison could make that start. I understand that giving Hurley or Harrison the shot would use an option and I dont think that the team wants to do that due to this only being a spot start. However, why doesn't the Pirate get a look? Anybody? Im lost here.

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You are lost...

did you see not only when Hurley and Harrison last pitched but what the results were?

It's a one start deal because of the DH yesterday, no biggie.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 11, 2008 9:08 PM CDT reply actions

Actually I missed it but by the way you mention it, it must have been bad.

Im just saying, a kid from trip A should get a shot before Feldman. I cannot stand him. I think he is a spare part and will never amount to anything on this team. RA Dickey is a beter pitcher, imo.

Adam loves him some Lard

by NYTXFAN on Apr 11, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm not a huge fan...

of Feldman either, but it's one start and I don't think it makes a big difference whether it's him or Murray.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 11, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions

I agree, but the point is, why in hell would Daniels make a point to say

he is the best option available? Granted, He has options, but they can't honestly be looking at him as a starter could they? I never saw enough in him to think he was more than a loogy.

Adam loves him some Lard

by NYTXFAN on Apr 11, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions

Best Option

I don't think best option, in this case, means best pitcher or most potential. He's already on the 40 and has been to the show and has made some improvements this year that put him in a position to simply be the best option for a spot start.

by rcreative on Apr 12, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions

Why is Murray a better option than Feldman?

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 11, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions

why is it everything that I blog about you have to ask a question?

Why isnt he? Obviously JD has said they would like to give him more time, right? Why not a spare part like Ponson, or Patterson? Its not like they are a realistic long term option.

Adam loves him some Lard

by NYTXFAN on Apr 11, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions

Neither of those guys are on the 40

And Patterson hasn't even pitched in a minor league game yet.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 11, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions

haha

why is it that adam questions what you have to say? maybe you could try saying stuff that isn't so questionable. furhter, why are you upset by this?

scap load or die

by ab03 on Apr 11, 2008 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions

I didn't realize that me thinking someone else deserves a spot start was questionable,

My bad. Im upset that Feldman, somehow, has found his way back to Arlington for one start. Im upset that Daniels seems to think this is our best option that we have. Thats all.

Adam loves him some Lard

by NYTXFAN on Apr 12, 2008 5:14 AM CDT up reply actions

I was just trying to understand...

...why you feel Murray is a better option than Feldman right now.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 12, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions

he isn't...

...the majority of the Jays line-up bat right anyway.

by oc on Apr 12, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions

Murray

Here's a fun fact: Murray actually has a much better career line against RHB.

RHB: .215/.308/.443 93 PA's
LHB: .308/.400/.692 30 PA's

Murray would be the better option to make the start, because he has more potential than Feldman. Feldman just doesn't have the stuff to be ML starter - on most staffs, he's a 6th or 7th starter. Murray probably doesn't have much different stuff than Kason Gabbard, but he still has more potential to be in the rotation someday than Feldman. That's why he should get the call, since his development is of more value to the org. than Feldmans.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

by LSJ on Apr 12, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Question for Baseball Jesus

"Feldman just doesn't have the stuff to be ML starter - on most staffs, he's a 6th or 7th starter."

How do you know this? Have you seen him start yet?

lepricon

by jparks77 on Apr 12, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions

He can see the future.

"Why do you think you're baseball jesus?" AirJordan to LonestarJon

by coolaid on Apr 12, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions

I saw him pitch last season

Including with the new arm slot in September. And new arm slots can only do so much.

But since you seem to disagree, how about we hear why you think he has more potential than AJ Murray?

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

by LSJ on Apr 12, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions

Feldman

I never suggested he had more potential than Murray. I wanted to know what you were basing your opinions on. You told me.

Personally, I don't think we can accurately formulate an opinion of Feldman as a starter until we actually witness Feldman as a starter. He was very successful as a starter in college and his first start in the minors was promising. Who knows, he might surprise us.

Also, new arm slots can do quite a bit for a pitcher especially if it allows for increased velocity or deception. The baseball Jesus should already know that.

lepricon

by jparks77 on Apr 12, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions

I know that

But this is Scott Feldman we're talking about here. Even if this transition to a starter works, he's probably not going to be good enough to stick in the big-league rotation long term. That's what I'm trying to say.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

by LSJ on Apr 12, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Feldman

Even if this transition to a starter works, he's probably not going to be good enough to stick in the big-league rotation long term.

Why?

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 12, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions

LSJesus

speaks ex cathedra.

"You are this month's NYTXFAN." - t ball

by inactive lsb user on Apr 12, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions

Because he's Scott Feldman

And he's not very good in comparison to some of the other starting prospects in the org.

Come on. Do you really think he's ever gonna make a big-league rotation? Really?

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

by LSJ on Apr 12, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions

Again...

I'm not a big fan of Feldman, but we don't know shit about him as a starter until he gets a chance. Everyone was very disappointed by his performance last year, but he is still young and maybe he gets it turned around. Maybe not. Either way you need to start being a little more possitive about things and stop taking shots at every guy that someone mentions who is not named Josh Hamilton.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 12, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't take shots at everyone

I just take shots at the crappy players, like Cat, Laird, Byrd, Feldman, ext.

I realize Feldman is probably improved with the new arm slot, I'm just saying I don't think he can stick in the rotation. He should be moved back to the bullpen, where he'll have more value.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

by LSJ on Apr 12, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't konw

I know that, before 2007, he had a real nice track record as a reliever, and I find it hard to believe that a guy who was 24 at the end of last season and who, prior to his age 24 season, had produced pretty well at every level is suddenly worthless.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 12, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm not saying he can't produce as a reliever

I'm saying I don't think he's got the stuff to start.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

by LSJ on Apr 12, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Baseball Jesus Logic

lepricon

by jparks77 on Apr 13, 2008 3:09 AM CDT up reply actions

Baseball Jesus

How and when did this start?

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

by LSBUser on Apr 13, 2008 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions

x

Link

"Why do you think you're baseball jesus?" AirJordan to LonestarJon

by coolaid on Apr 13, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions

That

was worth the re-read.

...it's the weekend, so why the hell not?

by Rodney on Apr 13, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Hehe +1

An entertaining thread.

"Hmn [sic] ... pehaps [sic] I've said too much..." - LSJesus

by inactive lsb user on Apr 13, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions

Thanks

I had read that thread before but I forgot about it. I still don't quite get why that guy calls him that though.

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

by LSBUser on Apr 13, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions

Patterson and Ponson

they are both hurt.

"Then, like a**holes, they took it back." -Jeff of Lookout Landing after Hamilton's 9th inning HR on April 1st.

by dstar442005 on Apr 11, 2008 9:47 PM CDT reply actions

I'm meant to reply to NYTX

my bad

"Then, like a**holes, they took it back." -Jeff of Lookout Landing after Hamilton's 9th inning HR on April 1st.

by dstar442005 on Apr 11, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions

For one start it doesnt really matter

feldman was a surprising choice though.

Gerald Laird is my hero.

by DShep on Apr 11, 2008 10:35 PM CDT reply actions

i thought so too at first

but given the 40, there aren't really any other choices

scap load or die

by ab03 on Apr 11, 2008 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions

Did you say the 40?

Hmm...what does the 40 do again?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 11, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions

Feldman has looked fantastic

He manhandled the Rangers in the exhibition game in Frisco. I would not count him out. And you'll find it hard to believe that this is the same guy you saw sidewinding last year.

by bronco28 on Apr 12, 2008 6:19 AM CDT reply actions