Yanks fans, LaTroy Hawkins, and Paul O'Neill
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 23, 2008 10:00 AM CDT
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PrintI've been meaning to do a blog post on the stupidity of Yanks fans throwing a tantrum over LaTroy Hawkins wearing the same number that Paul O'Neill used to wear.
Now I don't have to, because Joe Posnanski has done so, and made the points I would have made had I done one.
Great take from Joe P. on the silliness of Yanks fans (and some of the current Yanks, like Derek Jeter, who are lobbying for O'Neill's number to be retired).
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Red Sox and #7
When I went to Fenway last Sunday, there was a guy sitting behind me who kept talking about baseball the whole game. He was pretty knowledgeable, and was not a complete homer, so it was not so bad. However, he did have an irrational dislike of JD Drew. One thing that really bothered him was the fact that he wears #7. In this guy’s mind there is only one Red Sox player who will forever be #7 (drum roll please).... Trot Nixon. I just don’t get it.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Apr 23, 2008 10:08 AM CDT reply actions
I've got a buddy who does the exact same thing.
Seriously, Trot Nixon?
And with the 22nd overall selection the Dallas Cowboys select Jonathan Stewart.
I'm going to start lobbying
for the Rangers to retire #6 in honor of the great Rob Bell.
"Before I leave, I once again condemn the despicable buffoonery of D.J. Cahill." - Huck
my only response is this
F the Yankees and F their fans.
that is all.
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
by rentz on Apr 23, 2008 10:27 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I doubt thats the reason,
Considering Edinson Volquez is probably the ace of their staff right now.
Oh, and that isn’t a criticism of the trade. Right now it looks like its one of those rare trades that both team got great returns.
"Before I leave, I once again condemn the despicable buffoonery of D.J. Cahill." - Huck
why would you go a full offseason before firing?
the value of the trade was well known from the get go
Rare Gnats Sex
Don't forget Eric Young
And with the 22nd overall selection the Dallas Cowboys select Jonathan Stewart.
Eric Young
was a beast for us.
"He throws that curveball so hard and it snaps 12 to six like you've never seen." - Matt Kemp on Clayton Kershaw
freaking
Joe needs to learn how to blog without saying the same word many, many times (especially when it’s a word used for emphasis). In his case it’s ‘freaking’ (or freakin’). I can’t be the only one who is annoyed when writers / bloggers / anyone says the same word over and over again. He used ‘freaking’ or a derivative 7 times in a very short article (yeah, I actually counted. It became a game after about the third paragraph. If I turned it into a drinking game I’d have been drunk about 3/4 of the way through. I guess I’m not much of a drinker.).
Yeah, it’s a pet peeve.
Yeah, he’s right about Paul O’Neill.
Rusty Greer
that would be a good comp here.
And if we had a more rabid fanbase I could totally see some people getting all up in arms about retiring Rusty’s number.
"Sabean did a good job on selling high on Liriano." -Excel Hearts Choi
I disagree.
The Rangers and the Yankees simply do not have the same pedigree.
I don’t necessarily think that Greer was Jesus Christ playing left field for us (let alone the fact that he only played for nine seasons), but he’s one of a very small number of very good outfielders who played exclusively for us, and played during the most successful years of the franchise.
He’s in the Texas Rangers Hall of Fame, which is plenty for me, but (to me) there’s just no way to legitimately compare the Rangers and the Yankees in this regard.
+1
It should take a lot more to have your number retired by an organization like the Yankees than one like the Rangers.
That said I wouldn’t want to see Rusty’s number retired. He was very good for a number of years but not good enough to have his number retired.
Right around the time all the young talent is ready to contend is when the organization will realize that Ron Washington is the wrong man for the job.
The reason its a good comp
is that only great players should get their numbers retired, like, say Pudge. Fan favorites who aren’t great players should never get their numbers retired.
"Before I leave, I once again condemn the despicable buffoonery of D.J. Cahill." - Huck
Yup
"Sabean did a good job on selling high on Liriano." -Excel Hearts Choi
by thedirkatron on Apr 23, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
its a team's prerogative who they want to retire
why do people care who’s number the yankees retire?
people let the cowboys put whoever they want on the ring of honor
Rare Gnats Sex
Leave it to the Mavericks
to have one of the dumbest retired numbers ever.
"Before I leave, I once again condemn the despicable buffoonery of D.J. Cahill." - Huck
Fan comparison
Fan attitude about a player, justified or not. Not so much a Yanks/Rangers comparison. Although you ostensibly could make comparisons with any two MLB teams, who are far more comparable to one another than to anything else.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Apr 23, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Who cares?
The Yankee fans have the right to boo any Yankee they want. I still can’t believe we got swept by the Red Sux. I hate our bullpen right now.
by BillyBobisdrunk on Apr 23, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply actions
Don't teams have
a sort of unwritten policy of not giving a number of a particularly well-regarded former player even if the number isn’t retired? Or, maybe this only applies for a shorter time period than with O’Neil.
by Randy Richardson on Apr 23, 2008 3:14 PM CDT reply actions
Oh yes!
:)) Bellwood Construction up in Indianola, Iowa retired my number the year after I stopped playing there. Oh wait … they retired ALL their numbers, since the team disbanded. My bad ….........
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Apr 23, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
well, he did go on to be Secretary of the Treasury...
oh, you mean that was a different Paul O’Neill?
nevermind….
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
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