Roger Clemens, Child Molester?

by DJCahill on Apr 28, 2008 7:26 AM CDT

The Daily News has the latest scoop on Roger Clemens, and it’s a shocker. The paper is reporting that he had a decade-long affair with country singer Mindy McCready. Sources tell the News that the affair started when she was 15 (!), and he was 28.

My first thought when hearing this story, was to remember that McCready has had some, well, issues. Specifically, she tried to kill herself when she was pregnant, she was still seeing her abusive boyfriend, and she has had issues with the law. Basically, her life really was the stuff country songs are made of. Oh, and her big hit song from a decade ago was called “Guys Do It All The Time”!

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this

is why he was so defensive about steroids. WHAT A JERK!

"Then, like a**holes, they took it back." -Jeff of Lookout Landing after Hamilton's 9th inning HR on April 1st.

by dstar442005 on Apr 28, 2008 7:49 AM CDT 0 recs

God this is gay,

The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ

by NYTXFAN on Apr 28, 2008 7:54 AM CDT 0 recs

Nothing like

some quality trash gossip, to distract us from a craptastic season.

"Before I leave, I once again condemn the despicable buffoonery of D.J. Cahill." - Huck

by DJCahill on Apr 28, 2008 8:21 AM CDT up 0 recs

u have a very god point

The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ

by NYTXFAN on Apr 28, 2008 8:41 AM CDT up 0 recs

Cahill

Easy on the God points

by badradiorules on Apr 28, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up 0 recs

+1

"I hope it's a special dumb person hell so that I don’t have to meet up with you after I die."

- The D-tron

by Chase Irwin on Apr 28, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

She is Lurlene Lumpkin

and he is Colonel Homer.

"Sex is not a crime. It's a loving act between two or more consenting adults." - Hank Kingsley

by EssBee on Apr 28, 2008 10:52 AM CDT 0 recs

(Borrowed from Colonel Homer)

McCready: Oh, Roger! You’re as smart as you are handsome!
Clemens: [angry] Hey! [softens] Oh, you meant that as a compliment.

and

Clemens: It takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen.

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on Apr 28, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up 0 recs

The real issue

is whether or not she was at the Canseco barbecue.

by biff pocoroba on Apr 28, 2008 11:31 AM CDT 0 recs

As if Clemens'...

reputation needed anything else to drag him down.

Holy shit, 15 years old.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 28, 2008 12:15 PM CDT 0 recs

How old is 15 really?

"If we where [sic] gonna trade them Salty, I would want a helluva lot more than just Joba though." -lonestarJon

by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up 0 recs

Miley Cyrus

is 15, and she is pretty hot….

And the secret sources in Cincinnati get the last laugh....

by miles on Apr 28, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up 0 recs

I'd definitely hit it

15 isn’t “child-molestery” to me.

It’s like Dave Chapelle says, “How old is 15 really?”

"If we where [sic] gonna trade them Salty, I would want a helluva lot more than just Joba though." -lonestarJon

by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up 0 recs

Yikes

Dude, I hope you’re no older than 17. Otherwise, you’re pretty sick Chubbs.

by Jack Nicholson 1974 on Apr 28, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

I guess I'm pretty sick then

If 15 is old enough to be tried as an adult in the court of law, how is it not old enough to make a decision on whether or not to use your genitals?

In most of the world the age of consent is 16, and in many countries (France comes to mind) it’s 15.

I guess the rest of the world is just a bunch of sickos. America is right about everything and our age of consent laws make us all perfect, happy and (wouldn’t you know it…) perfectly happy.

"If we where [sic] gonna trade them Salty, I would want a helluva lot more than just Joba though." -lonestarJon

by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up 0 recs

Yeah but...

if he was 28 that’s pretty bad in my book. What the hell does anyone who is 28 have in common with a 15 year old.

If he was 19 or 20 maybe, but he was almost twice her age.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 28, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up 0 recs

I really don't want to get into this -

but you’ve baited me in so well. I was initially just making a joke comment to what I thought was your joke, so I am caught a little off guard that you were serious and replied in such a passionate fashion.

Being 15 and unable to consent to sexual contact with someone much older (28, for example) has nothing to do with being tried as an adult. The purpose of the age of consent is to protect the minor from being tricked into consent on account of the minor’s lack of experience and knowledge inequality in relation to the adult. This rationale applies the same whether the minor is entering into a sexual relationship or a contractional one. As a society, we don’t want older people talking kids into certain actions and taking advantage of them. This rationale is why it is okay for a minor to have sexual relations with someone of similar age (within 4 years, I think) – if both actors are young, there is a more even playing field in terms of experience and knowledge.

In the case of a minor being tried as an adult, there is no risk of an older actor tricking or taking advantage of the minor. In this case, it is the minor who is the perpetrator and not the victim the law is trying to protect. In such a situation, the court looks into the specific mental capacity of the minor and his ability to appreciate the ramifications of his actions. In Texas, minors are very rarely tried as adults (usually only where there is a pre-meditated crime).

So, the difference is not sexual vs. criminal, it is the risk of coercion.

by Jack Nicholson 1974 on Apr 28, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up 0 recs

Ok

Need it be legislated, though?

I think he understands the “rationale,” but I took his point to be that this is a moral issue.

For instance, if you’re 15 and you have the knowledge and experience of someone much older and are comfortable with the age discrepancy, ultimately that is your decision … is it not?

"I hope it's a special dumb person hell so that I don’t have to meet up with you after I die."

- The D-tron

by Chase Irwin on Apr 28, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up 0 recs

Well

your points are not without merit.

I think an age of consent is necessary, but where do you draw the line? Everyone admits you shouldn’t be allowed to bone down on 7 year olds and should be shot in the head if you do. But does the fact that I (a 26 year old male) find a 15 year old female attractive make me a sicko? I don’t think so.

Age of consent laws are a big huge gray area.

And I thought you were calling me a sicko for saying I sometimes find 15, 16 and 17 year old girls attractive, which I freely admit I do. It’s human nature, imo. Girls don’t suddenly become sexually attractive at an exact moment 18 years after their birth.

"If we where [sic] gonna trade them Salty, I would want a helluva lot more than just Joba though." -lonestarJon

by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up 0 recs

draw the line

Since we’re talking about a baseball player maybe we should just use the old saw “if there’s grass on the field, play ball”?

...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Apr 28, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up 0 recs

hahahaha

well done.

"I hope it's a special dumb person hell so that I don’t have to meet up with you after I die."

- The D-tron

by Chase Irwin on Apr 28, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up 0 recs

+1

And the secret sources in Cincinnati get the last laugh....

by miles on Apr 28, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up 0 recs

So does that mean...

you think 10 year olds are hot miles?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 28, 2008 10:30 PM CDT up 0 recs

It means

I would screw Miley Cyrus…

She is 15.

And the secret sources in Cincinnati get the last laugh....

by miles on Apr 28, 2008 10:36 PM CDT up 0 recs

You should do more than that Miles..

if you’re gonna screw her maybe she’ll fall in love with you and you’ll be RICH! You can buy the Rangers and all our dreams will come true! Miles replaces Tom Hicks as owner, who knew?

The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT

http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/16/213154/893

by LAMuscleFag on Apr 28, 2008 10:43 PM CDT up 0 recs

Haha,

that would be the life.

Ofcourse, I would go to jail for sex with a minor. Damnit.

And the secret sources in Cincinnati get the last laugh....

by miles on Apr 28, 2008 10:54 PM CDT up 0 recs

oh take her to Hawaii for her 16th birthday..

and Get er Done! 16 is legal in Hawaii.

The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT

http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/16/213154/893

by LAMuscleFag on Apr 28, 2008 11:08 PM CDT up 0 recs

I'm just messin' with ya miles.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 28, 2008 10:44 PM CDT up 0 recs

heh...

Don’t you agree though, isn’t she hot?

And the secret sources in Cincinnati get the last laugh....

by miles on Apr 28, 2008 10:53 PM CDT up 0 recs

Personally

I have a hard time getting past the whole “Hannah Montana” deal – that’s so lame, it makes it hard for me to consider her anything more than a teeniebopper.

When she’s not doing the Hannah Montana thing though, she is nice looking. Guess Billy Ray knows how to grow ‘em.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

by lonestarJon on Apr 28, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up 0 recs

Miles

If you haven’t already, you need to go buy the latest issue of Vanity Fair.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

by lonestarJon on Apr 28, 2008 10:51 PM CDT up 0 recs

heh,

I saw that.

She looks like a complete tramp in that, and her dad was with her for that photo shoot.

She has some pretty risque pics out, so hot…

And the secret sources in Cincinnati get the last laugh....

by miles on Apr 28, 2008 10:53 PM CDT up 0 recs

wait a minute..

a complete tramp who’s so hot? hmmmm

The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT

http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/16/213154/893

by LAMuscleFag on Apr 28, 2008 11:10 PM CDT up 0 recs

In that one

pic she had.

Not the others..

http://img202.imagevenue.com/loc107/th_71723_hannahmontana2uh9_122_107lo.jpg

And the secret sources in Cincinnati get the last laugh....

by miles on Apr 28, 2008 11:41 PM CDT up 0 recs

WOW

you’re right…well I’d bang her anyways if I were you. I’ll work out a meeting for the two of you in Hawaii for her 16th birthday with my Hollywood secret sources.

When she’s in the shower switch out her birth control pills for placebos and before you know it you’ll be Miles Cyrus!

The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT

http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/16/213154/893

by LAMuscleFag on Apr 29, 2008 12:00 AM CDT up 0 recs

+ 1 you tell it Dirk!

I totally agree. I believe in Hawaii the age of consent is 16 and thats fine with me!

The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT

http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/16/213154/893

by LAMuscleFag on Apr 28, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up 0 recs

IMO

This is a classic example of why very good players don’t often make great executives or managers. Just because Nolan was a freak of nature doesn’ t mean everyone who makes it to the big leagues is the same freak.

Kerry Wood was a Nolan Ryan starter kit, right?

by robert_d_wilfong on Apr 28, 2008 12:30 PM CDT 0 recs

Obviously, I'm having a hard time today

This comment was meant for this post:

http://www.lonestarball.com/2008/4/25/460498/nolan-ryan-article

Carry on.

by robert_d_wilfong on Apr 28, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up 0 recs

Heh,

at first I thought you were saying that Clemens should definitely not be coaching the H.S. softball team.

...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Apr 28, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up 0 recs

Hannah Montana should stay away from the Rocket

And Sharky

UT's jealous.... we got Tellus

by TheBZA on Apr 28, 2008 12:51 PM CDT 0 recs

Roger Clemens...

the new Michael Jackson?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 28, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up 0 recs

More like the new

Mark Chmura.

Happiness

by jparks77 on Apr 28, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up 0 recs

im sorry

but when i was in HS i had a buddy whose little brother had just turned 17 and his girlfriend was about to turn 16 and the father of the girl pushed for charges of statutory rape charges on the kid.

this is texas mind you, but he was sentenced to 18 months in jail, served 8 months and is on the list as a sexual offender for the rest of his life.

if roger gets out of this, its ridiculous.

.500 or bust!

Bad Vibes Kill Rallies!

"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008

by Jayslick on Apr 28, 2008 7:23 PM CDT 0 recs

How so?

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Not that I’m saying Clemens isn’t in the wrong here, just that it sounds like you’re saying what happened to this dude you knew was sucky, so if nothing sucky happens to Clemens, then that’s sucky.

"If we where [sic] gonna trade them Salty, I would want a helluva lot more than just Joba though." -lonestarJon

by thedirkatron on Apr 29, 2008 12:11 AM CDT up 0 recs

i thought the rule was...

.. in college i was introduced to a very simple and steadfast equation that always guides me in these situations:

(your age in years/2)+7= the youngest age of girl which it is reasonable to have sex with, without crossing any lines and/or being thought of as a dirty bastard….

everyone please do your own math.

i can nail a 20 year old, but thats my lower limit…

"Juan Pierre hit zero home runs last year. Mythical fairy creature David Eckstein hit three, for Chrissakes, and he swings a three-inch bat carved out of a candy cane." ~junior, FJM

by ivysafety39 on Apr 29, 2008 12:24 PM CDT 0 recs

The rule is

get all you can, whenever you can, from whoever you can, provided they meet your particular standards and don’t break any laws or vows.

...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Apr 29, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up 0 recs

+ 1

Theres nothing wrong with a nice piece of veal once in a while as long as it’s not breaking the law, vows, or you’re not making anyone do anything they don’t want to.

The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT

http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/16/213154/893

by LAMuscleFag on Apr 29, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up 0 recs

Thats retarded...

That means a 12 year old can only bang a 13 and up year old… heh.

I love Miley Cyrus.

by miles on Apr 29, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up 0 recs

you'd..

... be lucky to “bang” a 13 year old big boy.

"Juan Pierre hit zero home runs last year. Mythical fairy creature David Eckstein hit three, for Chrissakes, and he swings a three-inch bat carved out of a candy cane." ~junior, FJM

by ivysafety39 on Apr 29, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up 0 recs