Matt Harrison throws a no-hitter
Matt Harrison -- the forgotten prospect in the Mark Teixeira trade -- threw a no hitter today for Frisco.
Now, it was only the 7 inning variety, since there's a doubleheader for Frisco today, and he had 6 walks against 5 Ks...but hey, a no hitter is a no hitter.
Kudos to Matt, who may be heading to Oklahoma before too long, and who I'm betting is pitching in Arlington in September.
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those 6BB are kinda troubling
"Popularity is fleeting. … Principles are forever." - George W. Bush
by Longhorn on May 18, 2008 4:18 PM CDT 0 recs
120 pitches?
Geez…for a guy who just got off the d.l. with a tired arm, that seems excessive.
by Adam J. Morris on
May 18, 2008 4:27 PM CDT
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lol
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on
May 18, 2008 4:30 PM CDT
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pitches
but the great nolan ryan thinks all pitchers in the system need to start throwing higher pitch counts
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
by rentz on
May 18, 2008 4:30 PM CDT
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Another
reason I don’t want him running this team.
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on
May 18, 2008 4:31 PM CDT
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Pitch count
the most useless stat in all of sports.
People act like after you hit triple digits that your arm will fall off.
by Butters on
May 18, 2008 4:36 PM CDT
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You sound
like Dusty Baker.
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on
May 18, 2008 4:38 PM CDT
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Kerry Wood
is a beastly closer now.
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on
May 18, 2008 4:43 PM CDT
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Is that a counter-point to what Chris said?
Or is that just a non-sequitor?
by Adam J. Morris on
May 18, 2008 4:44 PM CDT
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I agree
that Dusty screwed up Wood’s career, but I’m just saying Wood is doing pretty good right now..
Ofcourse, you just have to wait for any day now that he will get injured.
Its scary that the president of the Rangers thinks that about pitch counts.
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on
May 18, 2008 4:47 PM CDT
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His high school coach...
...let him throw 110 or so pitches in the first game of a DH in the state finals, then come back and throw another 70 or so in relief in the second game.
Mike Fisher, I recall, went on and on about how stupid people were for complaining about that, because there was no proof throwing that many pitches was harmful.
by Adam J. Morris on
May 18, 2008 4:50 PM CDT
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How was it ruined?
I heard he was throwing well and feeling good so his coach left him in. What’s the problem?
by DaheelzCM on
May 18, 2008 4:53 PM CDT
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Of course he is going to say he felt fine. Pitchers always say they feel fine.
but a coach should know that after throwing that many pitches in the first game, that the pitcher shouldn’t be brought back. Unfortunately, a lot of high school and college coaches severely overuse pitchers in an attempt to win, with no regard for their future health.
by uthornfan on
May 18, 2008 4:58 PM CDT
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I know
I was just poking fun at Butters for his comment directly below.
by DaheelzCM on
May 18, 2008 4:59 PM CDT
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I'm not saying pitchers need to throw 140 pitches a game.
But if the guy is throwing well and feeling good than let the man do his job. I find it incredibly dumb to take out a guy just because he hit an arbitrary pitch count.
by Butters on
May 18, 2008 4:50 PM CDT
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Its
one thing to feel good at the time, not so much after…
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on
May 18, 2008 4:52 PM CDT
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I tested
that at least 1,000 times. I still get hangovers every time, must be true.
...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.
by t ball on
May 18, 2008 10:53 PM CDT
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Nolan Ryan
I would venture a bet to say that he knows a little more about pitching than you do.
Wait 'til the year after next
by NothinG on
May 18, 2008 7:18 PM CDT
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I also
have common sense and know that wear and tear on especially young pitchers doesn’t venture well will their future…
Sorry, but you are wrong…
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on
May 18, 2008 7:22 PM CDT
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+1
A Lonestar in California - 2.0
David Murphy rocks, so Ellsbury can just go get himself a taco or something.
by lonestarJon on
May 18, 2008 7:23 PM CDT
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-1
Nolan threw a ton of pitches in his career oh wait how long did that last
by blueballlefty on
May 19, 2008 12:00 AM CDT
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Yeah...
because every pitcher is just like Nolan Ryan.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on
May 19, 2008 12:12 AM CDT
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No prob. not
but he probably knows more about how to develop youg arms for long careers better than any of these douche’s on here dogging him.
by blueballlefty on
May 19, 2008 12:15 AM CDT
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Dont
get your panties in a bunch.
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on
May 19, 2008 12:17 AM CDT
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my panties
are just fine I just think Nolan brings some legitamacy to an organization I spent my whole life following and cant believe some of you guys are already dogging him after this positive start, the only mistake I think he’s made is not firing Ron W. when he had the chance
by blueballlefty on
May 19, 2008 12:20 AM CDT
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Wrong
yet again. Ron should get alot of credit. What has Nolan done, advertise his beef company?
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on
May 19, 2008 12:25 AM CDT
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dude this team
would be 4 games over .500 without clueless Ron outthere the guy is a great COACH but a terrible game MANAGER
by blueballlefty on
May 19, 2008 12:27 AM CDT
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That's the great MR. Nolan Ryan
to you, sir…and he’s right.
I don't know Karate...but I know Karazy!
by Clueless on
May 18, 2008 11:37 PM CDT
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Andrew Laughter
Was warmed up and ready to come in. As soon as the first hit happened he would have been yanked. I was kind of surprised myself that they left in him for that many pitches, for the same reasons.
And was anyone else annoyed when they got up on the dugout and did that clapping this for the last out? They kept blocking my view. :-(
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For old times sake...C'mon Kelly! :-)
by Beverly23 on
May 18, 2008 10:15 PM CDT
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harrison
i keep wanting to see him pitch, but he’s never pitching on days i can go
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
by rentz on May 18, 2008 4:29 PM CDT 0 recs
Same here,
Thats the only guy I want to watch pitch.
If he ever does pitch at home, tell me.
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on
May 18, 2008 4:30 PM CDT
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He's so NOT the forgotten prospect in that deal
Or is that sarcasm?
The 40 trumps all!!!
by thedirkatron on May 18, 2008 4:31 PM CDT 0 recs
Better
prospect than Elvis Andrus in my opinion.
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on
May 18, 2008 4:31 PM CDT
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Well
that sounds like some residual hate left over from when Joaquin Arias ran over your puppy or tossed your Dad’s salad and posted the video on Youtube or whatever that skinny man did to you that made you so darn angry, cause Andrus is a pretty good looking prospect… though not one without risk.
The 40 trumps all!!!
by thedirkatron on
May 18, 2008 4:40 PM CDT
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I just
think Harrison is one hell of a pitcher…
You have to admit though, Andrus has to remind you of Arias…
Over hyped young shortstop that is supposedly going to be great because he is young…
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on
May 18, 2008 4:42 PM CDT
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You
don’t see the similarities?
Same situation when Arias came over in the A-Rod deal, no?
They are such similar situations, it is kind of scary.
Arias was even a better hitter than Andrus in early minors.
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on
May 18, 2008 4:48 PM CDT
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Intangibles
Not to sound like Old Man Baseball, but one of the things that Elvis has going that Joaquin never had is the leadership qualities. Every scouting report you read about Elvis revolves around 2 things: 1. Spectacular defense, 2. Leadership qualities/intangibles out the ass.
by LiamP on
May 18, 2008 4:50 PM CDT
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Marlon
byrd is a leader as well, and a plus defender….
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by miles on
May 18, 2008 4:51 PM CDT
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byrd
i woudlnt say he’s a plus defender
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
by rentz on
May 18, 2008 4:52 PM CDT
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i can agree with that, i just wouldnt say he’s in near the same league as andrus when it comes to saying “plus defender”
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
by rentz on
May 18, 2008 4:54 PM CDT
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So your
saying if someone is a “great leader”, then he has a chance to be good?
You can label me as a good leader and I can be a great prospect as well?
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on
May 18, 2008 4:54 PM CDT
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i never said that
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
by rentz on
May 18, 2008 4:55 PM CDT
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Point is
you can’t be a great prospect on the grounds of a great leader…
Defense can’t make up for a bat..
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on
May 18, 2008 4:56 PM CDT
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Defense is incredibly important at shortstop
I can live with a gold glove shortstop that hits .250. At positions like first base you have to rake to have any value, you don’t have to be a great hitter to have value at shortstop.
by uthornfan on
May 18, 2008 5:00 PM CDT
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Then
why didn’t we just keep Jiminez?
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by miles on
May 18, 2008 5:02 PM CDT
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jiminez
i never saw gold glove style defense out of him.
i guess you just really hate “toolsy” defensive middle infielders. dirks right, arias really did a number on you
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
by rentz on
May 18, 2008 5:03 PM CDT
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Arias
didn’t do a damn thing good…
Sad thing is Arias is better offensively which is sad…
I don’t like middle infielders that can’t get a hit to save their lives.
Defense is great, but you can’t be a top prospect on the grounds of “great defensively and great leader”.
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on
May 18, 2008 5:06 PM CDT
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so a guy..
who hits .250 (1-4) and steals 20 plus bases is a bad offensive player who “cant get a hit to save his life”
by blueballlefty on
May 19, 2008 12:04 AM CDT
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Who said
He could even hit .250?
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by miles on
May 19, 2008 12:19 AM CDT
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who said
he couldnt a guy with that speed give him another year, year and a half in the minors and he’ll be atleast .250ish with an obp. of around .375 and stealing bases, that sounds like a perfect #9 hitter to put right in front of Ian
by blueballlefty on
May 19, 2008 12:23 AM CDT
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Doesnt
sound like a top prospect to me….
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on
May 19, 2008 12:28 AM CDT
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thats
just in his first year, he has the ability to develop into a Derek Jeter type of player down the road from what i have seen of him
by blueballlefty on
May 19, 2008 12:31 AM CDT
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why Jeter?
Why does everyone say this silliness? Jeter has always been a really good hitter and a really poor fielder. So why is a good defender and poor hitter likened to him? It is the Chewbacca defense of Andrus’ prospect-dom.
by bushe on
May 19, 2008 10:14 AM CDT
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Better hope he doesn't steal 20 bases in the majors.
He’d get caught stealing 6-10 times if he did.
"Before I leave, I once again condemn the despicable buffoonery of D.J. Cahill." - Huck
by DJCahill on
May 19, 2008 10:23 AM CDT
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defense
i think great defense at a position like short stop is highly important, and i also never said anything at all about leadership (though the guy does seem to have some amazing leadership skills)
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
by rentz on
May 18, 2008 5:01 PM CDT
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I don't
care how good defensively he is, if he has no offense then he is a utility player.
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on
May 18, 2008 5:03 PM CDT
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but ruddy yan is a beast!
"When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." - Ralph Wiggum
by rentz on
May 18, 2008 5:04 PM CDT
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Yeah,
He would make Elvis look like a turtle.
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by miles on
May 18, 2008 5:04 PM CDT
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Miles
are you trying to make up for Sharky’s absence by simply taking weird positions for the sake of argument?
...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.
by t ball on
May 18, 2008 10:54 PM CDT
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120 pitches, five walks, no hits
I’m sure Nolan Ryan is very proud.
by cstorm15 on May 18, 2008 4:36 PM CDT 0 recs
Shroom went to the game
according to his site. Wonder what he has to say about Harrison.
by coolaid on May 18, 2008 5:31 PM CDT 0 recs
Okay
I just put a slideshow up in Fanshots of the final out of Harrison’s no-no. He got a chopper to Elvis – Elvis fields and throws – pile-jumping ensues – Harrison doffs cap. yay
by shroomer on
May 18, 2008 9:49 PM CDT
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Those 120 pitches trouble me greatly
That is WAY to excessive. I know there’s an entire discussion on this up the page, but I’ll toss in my 2 cents down here… I’m reeaallly starting to wonder if Nolan Ryan is going to wind up destroying our young pitchers before they even hit the bigs.
I don’t mind a little bit of old school mentality, but when a prospect who was just on the DL with a fatigued arm throws 120 pitches, you’re past old school and into the Dusty Baker zone.
A Lonestar in California - 2.0
David Murphy rocks, so Ellsbury can just go get himself a taco or something.
by lonestarJon on May 18, 2008 7:21 PM CDT 0 recs
I do
mind the old school mentality, he is acting like a crazy old man with no sense.
He was a great pitcher, congrats. But he is a guy that I don’t want influencing our young pitchers.
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on
May 18, 2008 7:23 PM CDT
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I'm sure Nolan
called the Frisco dougout and threatened the coaches’ jobs if he wasn’t left in….
It’s pretty obvious they left him in to see if he could actually pull it off. The confidence he might have gained can offset the infrequent games where he has 120 pitches.
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