Just Click On It.
by sprite
on May 19, 2008 10:45 AM CDT
With all the depth in the minor leagues and the knowledgeable fanbase we have here at LSB, I thought it would be a good idea if each poster names a prospect from the Rangers and dubbs them "their" guy. Obviously jparks77 would be Harrison, LSJ would be Salt HurlerHurley (Is he still around?) would be Hurley etc. I don't know, I'm bored this might be a failed bit, but we'll see what happens.
Zach Phillips is my guy by the way.
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Wilmer Font
There’s no particular reason for it, I just find myself rooting for the guy.
by BudLight on May 19, 2008 10:54 AM CDT 0 recs
Last line nailed it
a failed bit
"When I am pissed off, I get angry." - Miles 5/06/08
by Chase Irwin on May 19, 2008 10:55 AM CDT 0 recs
Shit
Did not claim Main fast enough.
I will go with B-squared Blake Beaven then.
by SaltyGoesYard on May 19, 2008 11:29 AM CDT 0 recs
Must be lonely on that ledge
"When I am pissed off, I get angry." - Miles 5/06/08
by Chase Irwin on
May 19, 2008 12:01 PM CDT
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Jose Felix and Jose Vallejo
are the 2 guys im following this year that peak my interest. also Miguel Velazquez
only one is at A+ but i keep an eye on the kids.
.500 or bust!
Bad Vibes Kill Rallies!
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on May 19, 2008 11:32 AM CDT 0 recs
Chris Davis
Fishing in the rivers of life. All bound for Mu Mu Land.
by Escher on May 19, 2008 11:43 AM CDT 0 recs
Neftali Feliz
He’ll be our King Feliz
"I've learned that before I open my mouth, I should look both ways for midgets." - Denny Crain
by mtex on May 19, 2008 11:46 AM CDT 0 recs
+1
hes my guy too
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by knockoutking on
May 19, 2008 2:23 PM CDT
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I've said it for a while...
Nothing would be sweeter than for Madrigal to save a couple of games against the Angels late in the season to put the Rangers in the playoffs, or at least keep LAAAAAAA out. Not just because we love to hate LAAAAAAAAAAA anyway, but because it would be that much funnier to do it with a guy we stole from them because they were idiots.
by Inkara1 on
May 19, 2008 1:15 PM CDT
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That'd be pretty sweet
Rev would be forced to un-pop his collar in shame if that happened.
God that man is a douche.
The 40 trumps all!!!
by thedirkatron on
May 19, 2008 2:13 PM CDT
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Chris Davis
Beasticon!
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by ortonius on May 19, 2008 12:20 PM CDT 0 recs
Ruddy Yan
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
by miles on May 19, 2008 12:30 PM CDT 0 recs
Dibs on Blake Beaven
However, I want it noted for the record that my first choice is Alexi Ogando, if he ever gets over to the States.
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
by ghtd36 on May 19, 2008 12:37 PM CDT 0 recs
Shit. Didn't see SaltyGoesYard taking BB
Just give me Alexi Ogando.
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
by ghtd36 on
May 19, 2008 12:41 PM CDT
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Nice
I’ll take Omar Beltre. This way no one will expect me to know how he did in his last outing
by JBImaknee on
May 19, 2008 12:48 PM CDT
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JMJ
If he learns to control the strike zone, then he will be beastly.
Formerly known as OKRangerFan
by B_Black on May 19, 2008 12:46 PM CDT 0 recs
MaxRam!!!
and JMJ
Someday I will become a RangerMAN!
by RangerBoy on May 19, 2008 12:57 PM CDT 0 recs
Engel Beltre
Just gives me one moret hing i can stick the guys from Boston with..
by laxtonto on May 19, 2008 1:00 PM CDT 0 recs
I hope the Red Sox
WS rings don’t hurt JD’s back as they pat him there for pulling one nice trade off on them during a season in which they won one of those rings.
by badradiorules on
May 19, 2008 2:12 PM CDT
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Yeah Gange really helped that playoff roster...
Washe even on the playoff roster?
by laxtonto on
May 19, 2008 2:42 PM CDT
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Do you think they care?
They won the World Series
by badradiorules on
May 19, 2008 2:52 PM CDT
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Sure they won it...
...do you think they won it because of Gagne, despite Gagne, or while barely remembering they had Gagne?
Right around the time all the young talent is ready to contend is when the organization will realize that Ron Washington is the wrong man for the job.
by Chad Crudup on
May 19, 2008 2:55 PM CDT
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Does it matter?
So, they gave up Gabbard. Nice player for the Rangers. Where would he fit in Boston when everyone is fully healthy? So, they gave up Murphy. Nice player for the Rangers. Where would he fit in for the Red Sox when everyone is healthy? Fifth outfielder? So, they gave up a very toolsy teenage outfielder with a very high ceiling and a very low basement. If everything goes perfect, he’ll be a star for us in 2012-2014.
Again, wonderful trade if you are a Ranger fan, like I am. However, I doubt that the Red Sox are taking time away from enjoying their WS victories to lament the fact that Engel Beltre is hitting .260 in Clinton.
by badradiorules on
May 19, 2008 3:03 PM CDT
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As long as you acknowledge...
...that it’s a great trade for the Rangers then I guess we have no real argument.
But I will say this: just because you don’t have a place for a young player in your lineup doesn’t mean it’s OK to undervalue him in a trade. That kind of thinking led to the Rangers giving away Adrian Gonzalez as a “throw-in” to SD when they felt he was blocked by Teixeira.
Right around the time all the young talent is ready to contend is when the organization will realize that Ron Washington is the wrong man for the job.
by Chad Crudup on
May 19, 2008 3:08 PM CDT
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Plus with their luck
they’re gonna grab a studly stud with the 44th pick in a few weeks.
You know, the one they got as compensation for Gagne.
It’s funny that when we make a trade for a pending FA we all love to talk about how smart it was because we get draft picks out of it. (Cough, Carlos Lee, Cough, Cough) But no one ever seems to remember that when we trade a pending FA, you’re giving up a likely draft pick.
If we hadn’t dealt Mahay and Gagne we’d have the 40th and 44th picks this year. Not saying that I’d rather have those picks than the players we got in trade, but it’s something to consider when weighing the value of trade from each team’s perspective.
The 40 trumps all!!!
by thedirkatron on
May 19, 2008 3:32 PM CDT
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That's tough
I think for sure you’d rather have Murphy, Gabbard and Beltre than that 44th pick. Maybe just Beltre is better than that 44th pick as some have said that he’d be a top 10 pick if he were in the draft (not sure about that though). And you’re right, whoever they take with that pick will somehow become an All-Star.
It’s tough to tell which is better sometimes. How much did Mahay add to that deal for the Braves? Did he get Jones thrown in? Clinch getting Harrison? If he got Jones thrown in, then it would have been better to hang onto him. But then, did they know that he would garner compensation?
by badradiorules on
May 19, 2008 3:41 PM CDT
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Also, would the Rangers...
...have offered arbitration to Gagne and/or Mahay?
Right around the time all the young talent is ready to contend is when the organization will realize that Ron Washington is the wrong man for the job.
by Chad Crudup on
May 19, 2008 3:44 PM CDT
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Well
I Gagne would’ve been a bit of a question mark, perhaps, just because if he’d accepted it might’ve been a ton of money. I think we would’ve, but you can’t be 100% on that. Another thing (which is mentioned below by laxtonto) to consider is that if he hadn’t cratered in Boston, he might’ve been a Type-A… something I think Boston was counting on when they made the deal, which makes it look even worse from their perspective.
As for Mahay… yah, I think us offering him arb would’ve been an absolute certainty. He was looking for a multi-year deal and with his skills combined with the craziness of the relief market, he was going to get a nicer deal on the market than he’d have gotten on a one year arb contract. And he was pretty clearly going to be a type B given his performance the past few years heading into the off season.
The 40 trumps all!!!
by thedirkatron on
May 19, 2008 7:54 PM CDT
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I think Mahay was worth considerably more than just Jones
Mahay was/is a really good lefty bullpen arm, who was almost certainly going to get a sandwich pick as compensation when he left.
It’s of course going to be pure conjecture on our part to say what part of that deal Mahay was responsible for, but he had some real value at the deadline, believe that.
If Lofton was worth Max, it’s not a stretch to say Mahay was worth at least Neftali.
The 40 trumps all!!!
by thedirkatron on
May 19, 2008 7:57 PM CDT
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If that's true
Then I’ll take both those trades over compensation. Wouldn’t Beltre and Feliz go well before the 44th pick if they were in this draft.
by badradiorules on
May 19, 2008 10:06 PM CDT
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Its always been a fun debate between picks and players
In the Gagne deal, i would take the players. As far as Mahay, its hard to tell how much Mahay was worth in the Tex deal.
I would say Lofton but….
At the time of the trade most people still thought he was going to grade out as a class A FA. I think the idea of extra pick Boston got from Gagne probably netted Texas Murphy or Beltre. Both which would retain more value than the 40ish pick which Boston got in the end.
Heres another quick thought,,,How much is it worth for trading from these kids after their signing bonuses have already been paid? Think of the difference there aswell. Over half a mil for Beltre, plus the saved developement time.
by laxtonto on
May 19, 2008 3:47 PM CDT
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Give me a known good prospect
over draft picks any day of the week. The attrition rate of even 1st and sandwich round draft picks is just way too high. I would be curious to know the number of mid first round through sandwich round picks who have the equivalent of one full season in the majors. I suspect its less than 1 in 3, but that’s a wild assed guess.
"Before I leave, I once again condemn the despicable buffoonery of D.J. Cahill." - Huck
by DJCahill on
May 19, 2008 3:54 PM CDT
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Well
what’s a “known good prospect”?
If you were to handicap the odds of the 44th pick making an impact in the bigs versus the odds Engel Beltre makes an impact in the bigs, that’s probably a pretty close call right now, no?
The 40 trumps all!!!
by thedirkatron on
May 19, 2008 4:41 PM CDT
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Beltre is kind of unique
given that he was 17 when dealt. How about Max Ramirez? We only gave up Lofton for him.
by zywica on
May 19, 2008 4:44 PM CDT
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I would put the odds
of a 44th pick contributing more than David Murphy at about 30%.
"Before I leave, I once again condemn the despicable buffoonery of D.J. Cahill." - Huck
by DJCahill on
May 19, 2008 4:59 PM CDT
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Remember
Beltre is considered someone who would be a high first rounder if he were in the draft this year. High first rounders have to be significantly more likely to make it than the 44th pick (late supp, early 2nd round).
David Murphy was a first round pick himself, and while he’s not an allstar, worse case scenario is that he’ll hold down a roster spot for several years. I’d say for a #17 pick, he was probably the median result.
For the 44th pick, you’re looking at probably about a 30% chance they even see the bigs, and you’re really just hoping to get lucky (
by JBImaknee on
May 19, 2008 6:24 PM CDT
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I understand
and my point was never to say that these picks would’ve been better than the guys we got… cause they’re not, imo.
My point was simply that when you evaluate the prospects Atlanta and Boston gave us last year, you have to also count the picks we gave up in those deals.
Heck most people don’t even seem to remember that there was a second player involved from our side in the Atlanta deal, let alone that that player had some real value himself.
The 40 trumps all!!!
by thedirkatron on
May 19, 2008 7:45 PM CDT
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Um, yeah...
...let’s work ona time machine so we can undo that trade. Boston sure suckered us on that one.
Right around the time all the young talent is ready to contend is when the organization will realize that Ron Washington is the wrong man for the job.
by Chad Crudup on
May 19, 2008 2:53 PM CDT
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No
It’s a great trade for the Rangers. However, to say that we should be scoreboarding the Red Sox is a little silly.
by badradiorules on
May 19, 2008 2:56 PM CDT
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First off it isnt a direct reference to the RedSox and the Rangers scoreboard.
Its in refernce to several of my freinds that live in Boston who check this boad from time to time. Second off, dont worry about trying to police who score boards what.
As far as Beltre being not being a big deal to Red Sox fans, next time you get a chance go to soxprospects or other deep redsoxboards and ask them about Beltre. They are still pissed about the fact he got dealt.
by laxtonto on
May 19, 2008 3:15 PM CDT
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Sorry, dude
Give those guys hell. Rangers win.
by badradiorules on
May 19, 2008 3:47 PM CDT
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I try....
Every Chance i get….
Atleast the Bruins suck….
by laxtonto on
May 19, 2008 4:07 PM CDT
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Drew Meyer
"Before I leave, I once again condemn the despicable buffoonery of D.J. Cahill." - Huck
by DJCahill on May 19, 2008 1:08 PM CDT 0 recs
It would have to be Hunter,
but I’ve got a man crush on Harrison and Main.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on May 19, 2008 1:37 PM CDT 0 recs
Deuce
...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.
by t ball on May 19, 2008 1:46 PM CDT 0 recs
Wanted phillips...
so i guess ill have to go with another lefty, Derek Holland.
If we get an offensive prospect as well, I’d have to go with TT for the sole reason that everyone seems to be forgetting about him lately.
by rchawk12 on May 19, 2008 2:01 PM CDT 0 recs
Fabio Castillo
with RA Dickey and Chris Heard not far behind
"We live, we die, and the wheels on the bus go round and round." - Tony Romo
by kentbenfer on May 19, 2008 2:34 PM CDT 0 recs
I'll claim Kea Kometani...
...don’t know if he’ll amount to anything but he’s got a cool name.
Right around the time all the young talent is ready to contend is when the organization will realize that Ron Washington is the wrong man for the job.
by Chad Crudup on May 19, 2008 2:51 PM CDT 0 recs
Toby Harrah
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
by WhipSmart on May 19, 2008 3:09 PM CDT 0 recs
Jason Botts
His numbers at AAA are awesome, and he has nothing left to prove.
Can’t wait until the Rangers bring him up!
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
by txranger7 on May 19, 2008 3:24 PM CDT 0 recs
Tommy Hunter
Since he’s getting no love I’ll claim him. Great debut today. Let the promotions begin. Can’t wait to see who gives moved up to Bakersfield in his spot.
by Hull Fan on May 19, 2008 3:43 PM CDT 0 recs
Julio Borbon
because like everyone else is taken already :)
by venturafearsnolan on May 19, 2008 3:58 PM CDT 0 recs
Wow all this and still no Ian Gac?
Come on guys,,,,You know you want the Gac Attack….
(Just dont mention he is old for his level or that he has been there a few years or his father will punish you)
Well…..Somebody?
by laxtonto on May 19, 2008 4:10 PM CDT 0 recs
Marcus Lemon
Just for the heck of it.
Love of God and compassion and empathy leads you to a very glorious place, and science leads you to killing people. -- Ben Stein
by Lucas on May 19, 2008 4:14 PM CDT 0 recs
I'll hitch my wagon to...
Brandon Boggs.
I think he will be an above average ML starting OF.
Pedro: "I wasn't cockfighting, I just have a wide stance."
by tricer on May 19, 2008 4:16 PM CDT 0 recs
Wilmer Font
Top of the rotation potential and I’m hopeful that he reaches it.
Pedro: "I wasn't cockfighting, I just have a wide stance."
by tricer on
May 19, 2008 4:18 PM CDT
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Would have been Font...
so I’ll go with Jake Brigham, even though he’s injured.
by cmkelly29 on May 19, 2008 4:33 PM CDT 0 recs
isnt he like 42...
.500 or bust!
Bad Vibes Kill Rallies!
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
by Jayslick on
May 19, 2008 5:36 PM CDT
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I'm going with...
Erik Thompson.
He’ll come back! Just you wait!
!!!!!!
by ghostofErikThompson on May 19, 2008 5:10 PM CDT 0 recs
Michael Schlact
why not?
send me nominations for the Hall of the Very Good
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NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER
by gossamer on May 19, 2008 5:19 PM CDT 0 recs
I really like Feliz...
but since he has already been claimed, twice, I’ll take Omar Poveda.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on May 19, 2008 5:21 PM CDT 0 recs
Nelson Cruz
You knew I would say that :) Maybe no longer a ‘prospect’, but merits an encore performance.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on May 19, 2008 5:41 PM CDT 0 recs
Hey...
if Oliver Perez can turn it around, why not Nelson Cruz?
by ghostofErikThompson on
May 19, 2008 5:44 PM CDT
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Adam Fox
Gotta root for the Bobcat.
There's one word that describes baseball - `You never know.' - Joaquin Andujar
by jbooth17 on May 19, 2008 5:54 PM CDT 0 recs
Johnny Whittleman
hope he makes it.
Zap Brannigan... you're my hero.....
by hotshot215 on May 19, 2008 5:54 PM CDT 0 recs
Craig Gentry
Late to the party so the pickings are slim, but I like the kid.
by srptex on May 19, 2008 9:39 PM CDT 0 recs
Yeah, Salty is my guy
As much crap as I’ve had to take for supporting him on LSB, I’ve developed a bit of an emotional attachement to him.
You hear that Jarrod? That means you have to start hitting, dude.
A Lonestar in California - 2.0
David Murphy rocks, so Ellsbury can just go get himself a taco or something.
by lonestarJon on May 19, 2008 11:37 PM CDT 0 recs
Yeah hes hitting .205
with an OBP of .392....
Im not worried, hell come around. Its nice to see him taking the walk though.
by laxtonto on
May 20, 2008 7:28 AM CDT
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Creepy.
"When I am pissed off, I get angry." - Miles 5/06/08
by Chase Irwin on
May 20, 2008 1:56 PM CDT
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Thats
what she said.
""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard
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