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5/20/08 game day thread

Texas @ Minnesota


Doug Mathis v. Glen Perkins...

Go Rangers...

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NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER

by gossamer on May 20, 2008 6:01 PM CDT   0 recs

aw, c'mon

he’s been effective in his relief outings. I’m kinda excited to see what he does tonite.

Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.

by WhipSmart on May 20, 2008 6:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

David Murphy rocks, so Ellsbury can just go get himself a taco or something.

by lonestarJon on May 20, 2008 6:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

prediction

I woke up this morning and got the feeling that Doug Mathis would pitch a perfect game tonight. I know, I know, probably something to do with Lester’s no-hitter getting into my head or something. But…

by naropean on May 20, 2008 6:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

lineup

I. Kinsler 2b
M. Young ss
J. Hamilton rf
M. Bradley dh
D. Murphy lf
M. Byrd cf
C. Shelton 1b
J. Saltalamacchia c
G. Duran

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NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER

by gossamer on May 20, 2008 6:02 PM CDT   0 recs

Byrd in CF

Who is supposed to be the better defender in center, Murph or Byrd? Based on what I’ve seen from Murphy defensively this year, I think I’d rather have him in CF and Byrd in LF.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

David Murphy rocks, so Ellsbury can just go get himself a taco or something.

by lonestarJon on May 20, 2008 6:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

well

i know we don’t like to use fielding percentage anymore but… hammy is at .963 with 3 errors in 297 innings.

last year byrd had 2 errors in 496 innings.

of course that’s a basic stat and nothing fancy like range or whatnot

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NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER

by gossamer on May 20, 2008 6:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I love that lineup

put in Hank now and Chris Davis down the line at 1B, buy a DH and move Milton to RF and Hamilton to CF and you’ve got the perfect lineup in my mind…for a few years anyways, until Andrus and others push the point

"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."

by Walter Sobchak on May 20, 2008 6:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Your DH

and backup catcher of the future is Max Ramierz. Don’t go buy, his bat is ML ready.

by Hull Fan on May 20, 2008 6:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

if it is, I'm fine with that...

but are you honestly ready to go ahead and plug him in?

"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."

by Walter Sobchak on May 21, 2008 3:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

scouting report on Mathis?

Does anyone have a link or two with a scouting report on him. I’m curious to know what to expect. I’ll also miss the beginning of the game so I won’t hear Lewin and Grieve tell me anything.

by Hull Fan on May 20, 2008 6:05 PM CDT   0 recs

all i know

is that
it’s his first career start. he’s pitched well in 3 relief outings.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/baseball/rangers/stories/052008dnsporangreport.c434ee6.html
RHP Doug Mathis (1-0, 0.00 ERA): After two scoreless relief innings, Mathis will make his first career start. Mathis was 5-0 with a 3.55 ERA at Triple-A Oklahoma before his call-up last week. His minor league splits ranged widely. He held right-handed hitters to a .161 batting average, but lefties hit .349. Mathis will become the ninth different Ranger to make a start this season. Each of the other AL West teams has used seven. Mathis has not faced the Twins.

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by gossamer on May 20, 2008 6:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

From Mike Hindman's blog
17) Doug Mathis—24 YO RHP (2005 13th Round)

The Rangers have tried to fast-track the 6’3” sinkerball specialist more than any other pitcher who has come into the fold in the past three years. Coming out of the University of Missouri, Mathis was sent to the college-dominated NWL, but in 2006 he jumped Clinton and went straight to Bakersfield. Perhaps the biggest shocker among 2007 opening day assignments was the appearance of Mathis on the Oklahoma roster. Clearly, the Rangers want to get to the point on Mathis as soon as possible.

In part, most likely, Mathis is being pushed so fast because he is an extremely bright and mature young man with tremendous poise and strong leadership skills. He pitches with a plan and doesn’t rattle. Which is not to say that Mathis was not or is not a guy capable of change or improvement. Mathis has gained velocity since joining the system and he’s added a curveball which gives him four legit offerings. Though he lacks the electric stuff of a lot of pitchers on this list, he’s arguably the most complete, well-rounded guy in the system.

His early assignment to OKC didn’t go very well and his season was marred by back problems that ultimately shut him down for a spell in the middle of the season, but his first eight and especially his last six starts with the Riders (2.29 ERA; 33 K’s and 8 BBs in 39 IP; .217 opponents average) were enough to leave you thinking that this is a guy who could creep into the back end of the Rangers rotation at some point in 2008.

Link

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David Murphy rocks, so Ellsbury can just go get himself a taco or something.

by lonestarJon on May 20, 2008 6:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

thanks lonestar

I knew nothing so that’s interesting. I hope Texas takes a couple more college pitchers like that in later rounds this year.

by Hull Fan on May 20, 2008 6:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Who vs. who?

""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard

by miles on May 20, 2008 6:06 PM CDT   0 recs

-1

"When I am pissed off, I get angry." - Miles 5/06/08

by Chase Irwin on May 20, 2008 7:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

OT: Orioles put up Seven on Yankees in 1st Inning

Mussina already out of the game after 2/3rds of an inning

Danks, Volquez, Galarraga and Young are GONE! GET OVER IT! Endless whining will not bring them back!

by LBBRangerFan on May 20, 2008 6:37 PM CDT   0 recs

Yankees are DONE.

maybe not, but it’s still fun to watch them wiggle a little bit…except Matsui, gotta love that guy

"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."

by Walter Sobchak on May 20, 2008 6:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They're not

It’s possible that they don’t make the playoffs, but not likely, imo. Someone like Oakland or Chicaco would have to beat them out, and I just don’t see that happening. TB is a year away.

by zywica on May 20, 2008 6:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Just because they

made it to the playoffs 13 years in a row doesn’t mean they will make it this year. Even last year, when they were in that big hole in the first half, they had much better pitching to help them get back in it in the 2nd half. This year, they have an inconsistent Mussina, average Pettite, good CM Wang, injured Hughes, crappy Kennedy…. Rasner? That lineup is good, but one year older. Fuggedaboudit.

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on May 20, 2008 7:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I wouldn't fuggedabout Joba

Wang, Pettitte, Joba, Mussina, Hughes is better than what TB or any of the second tier teams throw out there, and their lineup blows them all out of the water.

by zywica on May 20, 2008 9:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ooof

Disagreed.

What happened to my old signature?

by WyoRanger on May 20, 2008 7:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Only one earned run however

Jeter had the error

Danks, Volquez, Galarraga and Young are GONE! GET OVER IT! Endless whining will not bring them back!

by LBBRangerFan on May 20, 2008 6:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The Yankees really suck

I wonder what they’d give up for Millwood or Padilla? They clearly need some starting pitching, and they don’t strike me as a team that wants to wait for their young guys too long. I’d be pretty happy if we could spin Padilla to them for Ian Kennedy, one of their good position prospects and maybe a throw in or two.

But I bet they’ll sign Teixeira this offseason, maybe even CC Sabathia, and be back in the hunt next year.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

David Murphy rocks, so Ellsbury can just go get himself a taco or something.

by lonestarJon on May 20, 2008 6:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

here's your blockbuster

millwood and blalock for

kennedy, hughes, austin jackson, and bj cox

by Hull Fan on May 20, 2008 6:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well

Take out Hughes, and that’s a pheasible trade. But no way to the Yanks give up both Kennedy and Hughes.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

David Murphy rocks, so Ellsbury can just go get himself a taco or something.

by lonestarJon on May 20, 2008 6:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They wouldn't

give up either of those alone.

""I want George W. Bush to say, "All things equal, I screwed up this country far worse than I did the Texas Rangers."" - Chris Ballard

by miles on May 20, 2008 6:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I like

pheasant hunting. Sorry man, but that’s fantastic.

What happened to my old signature?

by WyoRanger on May 20, 2008 7:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Prop Wager

Marlon Byrd grounds into a DP before/after the 4th inning?

by RA Dickey on May 20, 2008 6:40 PM CDT   0 recs

sucker bet

before the 5th though.

by Hull Fan on May 20, 2008 6:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

doesnt byrd start each game

with at least 1 GIDP to his credit

by spliffy on May 20, 2008 7:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Tommy Hunter quote to Jason Cole, when asked about pitch counts:

Hunter: Everybody was really at 100 pitches. Nolan Ryan came in there and he pretty much laid down the law. You’re going to get up to 100 pitches, or 110 pitches, sometimes. Harrison threw over 100 the other night. It’s going to happen. It is not that big of a deal. It’s just what you’re supposed to do

by shroomer on May 20, 2008 7:09 PM CDT   0 recs

Great...

Just great.

Do you have a link to the actual quote, Shroom?

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

David Murphy rocks, so Ellsbury can just go get himself a taco or something.

by lonestarJon on May 20, 2008 7:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

There was a big discussion the other day about Matt Harrison throwing 120 pitches in his no-no

And how it’s not necissarily a good thing that Nolan Ryan wants our young prospects throwing a ton of pitches.

This is just confirmation of my fears that Nolan’s pushing the enelope with our prospects.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

David Murphy rocks, so Ellsbury can just go get himself a taco or something.

by lonestarJon on May 20, 2008 7:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well

For me it shows breadth and depth of Nolan’s edict – all the way down to the BAK guys. It’s worded in absolutes that I don’t know if we’ve heard yet. Just more info about how serious Nolan is about this, and how much influence he personally is having on development. good 411 in other woods

by shroomer on May 20, 2008 7:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh, ok...

Thanks anyway, shroom.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

David Murphy rocks, so Ellsbury can just go get himself a taco or something.

by lonestarJon on May 20, 2008 7:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Lets hope for a better

strike zone today.

by coolaid on May 20, 2008 7:11 PM CDT   0 recs

Ugh....Having to sit through the Minny broadcast

And how great their pitchers were batters yesterday.

by Brandon W on May 20, 2008 7:11 PM CDT   0 recs

Hey

It can’t be any worse than an Angels broadcast.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

David Murphy rocks, so Ellsbury can just go get himself a taco or something.

by lonestarJon on May 20, 2008 7:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You can already tell

Young lefty, good controll.

Were gonna get dominated.

by SaltyGoesYard on May 20, 2008 7:15 PM CDT   0 recs

By the way

Perkins has had some pretty bad command problems over the last year or so.

by zywica on May 20, 2008 7:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ohhhh, crap.

"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008

by lisa w on May 20, 2008 7:16 PM CDT   0 recs

Well, that's a pretty auspicious start to the game

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

David Murphy rocks, so Ellsbury can just go get himself a taco or something.

by lonestarJon on May 20, 2008 7:16 PM CDT   0 recs

+1

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

David Murphy rocks, so Ellsbury can just go get himself a taco or something.

by lonestarJon on May 20, 2008 7:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Mendozan Row

.184
.200
.205
.167

by SanDiegoKev on May 20, 2008 7:18 PM CDT   0 recs

How is that a Hit?

The Texas Rangers rounded the bases at a dizzying pace

by fsujon on May 20, 2008 7:18 PM CDT   0 recs

He would have been out!!

The Texas Rangers rounded the bases at a dizzying pace

by fsujon on May 20, 2008 7:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Rewound it on TiVo

He would have been out by at least half a step.

by Adam J. Morris on May 20, 2008 7:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

didnt rewind it......

......just know casilla is fast and the ball was hit slowly

by blueballlefty on May 20, 2008 7:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Was that a measurably bad SS play

or just in some of our heads?

by zywica on May 20, 2008 7:18 PM CDT   0 recs

That was a bad play

Not sure how that ended up a hit…that was a clear error…

by Adam J. Morris on May 20, 2008 7:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Exactly

The Texas Rangers rounded the bases at a dizzying pace

by fsujon on May 20, 2008 7:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree

A tall 1B would help. But that is a play that a good major league SS makes, and I find it a little annoying that people want to create this big grey area where you can’t really criticize Mike with stats or your eyes or anything else.

by zywica on May 20, 2008 7:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i dont think.......

......MY is perfect, but it seems like he gets ripped a whole lot on here some justly a lot unjustly

by blueballlefty on May 20, 2008 7:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's fine

I get the impression that people have decided that they need to pick a side with him over the years and either never be willing to give him any credit or never stand for criticism, both of which annoy me.

by zywica on May 20, 2008 7:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

100% agreed

I also think that some people are just pissed at the contract because they think it’s screwed the organization (maybe) and just don’t like MY for that reason regardless what he does.

What happened to my old signature?

by WyoRanger on May 20, 2008 7:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I LOVE MY

One of my favorite players, and there have been seasons where he’s been legitimately good. He’s been a lot better than I expected him to be offensively this year so far.

What I don’t love is how much so many Rangers fans think he can do no wrong.

by philkid3 on May 20, 2008 8:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

MY

He’s no Sean Kazmar.

by shroomer on May 20, 2008 7:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This is not going well for Doug Mathis

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

David Murphy rocks, so Ellsbury can just go get himself a taco or something.

by lonestarJon on May 20, 2008 7:21 PM CDT   0 recs

Well.....

DUH.

Sorry. Couldn’t help myself.

by Brandon W on May 20, 2008 7:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice Play Duran

BAD throw…nd why are you backing up the throw that close?

The Texas Rangers rounded the bases at a dizzying pace

by fsujon on May 20, 2008 7:23 PM CDT   0 recs

why is salty....

....starting today, we are in a losing streak and he really isn’t playing that good

by blueballlefty on May 20, 2008 7:24 PM CDT   0 recs

Because

He had a good night offensively last night, and he needs more at bats. He has also worked with Mathis in AAA this year.

The question is not why is he starting, but why wouldn’t he start.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

David Murphy rocks, so Ellsbury can just go get himself a taco or something.

by lonestarJon on May 20, 2008 7:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

your right........

.......lets start the 22 yr old .200 hitting learning the game catcher with Mathis throwing his first M.L start. Laird wouldnt make sense, since he hasnt been hot or anything or he’s not hitting 80 points higher. Mathis made to the big leagues the least we could do is give him a big league catcher.

by blueballlefty on May 20, 2008 7:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What the hell is your problem?

Salty is know to frame pitches a helluva a lot better than Laird. All Laird can do is throw, and theres more to being a good defensive catcher than that.

Salty has a .392 OBP to go with that .205 av