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5/26/08 game day thread 2

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Carlos Pena

He shakes his little tush on the catwalk…

by Adam J. Morris on May 26, 2008 7:51 PM CDT reply actions  

John Hart is now Boy Blunder?

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by rangers85 on May 26, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

OMG!

That is such an original, inspired post! Why didn’t I ever think those thoughts. Your prose is stunning in it’s eloquence.

I am so impressed I will leave this forum posthaste, in honor of your brilliance.

...it's the weekend, so why the hell not?

by Rodney on May 26, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

How many years did it take Pena to become good after we traded him?

It seems like an awful lot… last year was the first time he was good.

by Inkara1 on May 26, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

The first year he was REALLY good.

by brettgardner on May 26, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

First

Penalty box?

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by rangers85 on May 26, 2008 7:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Say what?

"We will look back in 20 years, and say that Clayton Kershaw was one of the best pitchers of all time" - me

by miles on May 26, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

+ 1

The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT

http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/16/213154/893

by LAMuscleFag on May 26, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Random fact of the day...

It is mothers day in the DR.

"We will look back in 20 years, and say that Clayton Kershaw was one of the best pitchers of all time" - me

by miles on May 26, 2008 7:54 PM CDT reply actions  

That fucking horn

should be broken and shoved up that person’s ass.

by cmkelly29 on May 26, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Should I

start doing that at Rangers games?

"We will look back in 20 years, and say that Clayton Kershaw was one of the best pitchers of all time" - me

by miles on May 26, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I sat next to one in left field a few weeks ago

They are pretty annoying, as are the cowbells when they aren’t used judiciously.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on May 26, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watching a Yankees game recently...

and there was someone banging on the rail near one of the mics, over and over and over again.

That beat from “Put Me in Coach.” It got so bad, that it drove the people in my apartment nuts who weren’t even watching the game.

by cmkelly29 on May 26, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you're sitting in your seat...

and that guy is even CLOSE to you, how do you NOT say something?

Security? Fan Mob? Anything.

by cmkelly29 on May 26, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was against the Yankees

So I chose to put up with it because his presence neutralized the ridiculous faux-New Yorkers in our section.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on May 26, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's unfortunate luck

considering Rupe was firing 94 MPH sinking fastballs. Touched 95 just now.

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 26, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Just logged on,

I guess you guys have already covered how lefties kill this team, right?

by Dr. Strange on May 26, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Somewhere, Victor Zambrano is filling out a AAA roster...

and Steve Phillips is being asked for insight on a national television program.

by cmkelly29 on May 26, 2008 8:05 PM CDT reply actions  

don't

believe it was Phillips that traded himn

by Gdawg on May 26, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was Jim Duquette

But don’t let that stop you, Phillips was a terrible GM and he’s only slightly better on TV.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on May 26, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah ok

Could have sworn it was him. Jim Duquette, lol!

Sad. Good for you guys though.

by cmkelly29 on May 26, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, seems to be working well

Then again, Chuck LaMar was due for a win after 10 years.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on May 26, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Rangers = Cookiepuss tonight..

WHY don’t we ever have a guy like a Kazmir or a Linceum on the staff instead of the:

revolving lazy susan loaded with clowns…. SIGH

The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT

http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/16/213154/893

by LAMuscleFag on May 26, 2008 8:05 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

You would think we’d get lucky with one great pitcher… Just one…

"We will look back in 20 years, and say that Clayton Kershaw was one of the best pitchers of all time" - me

by miles on May 26, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

YOU

mean like Volquez, Danks, ahhhhh no you said lucky so maybe you mean Chris Young, yesss yesss I do believe we got lucky there yet the Buckmeiser said NO, NO we will not have young talented pitching here.

by blueballlefty on May 26, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't

put those pitchers at the same level as Linceum or Kazmir, what I would like to have those guys back…

Too bad BMAC is to injury prone to show us what he has.

"We will look back in 20 years, and say that Clayton Kershaw was one of the best pitchers of all time" - me

by miles on May 26, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

+ 1

The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT

http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/16/213154/893

by LAMuscleFag on May 26, 2008 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

Perhaps at home, but whenever I see a trip to Arlington on the schedule I groan because we always seem to do poorly there.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on May 26, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

swept us two years ago on their turf...

...swept us last year in Orlando… and people use injuries as an excuse…

didn’t Edwin Jackson throw a complete game shutout last year at the Ballpark?

by oc on May 26, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

made a comment about this series the other day...

...and someone said… “well, last year we had so many players injured…”

by oc on May 26, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

Granting that, there’s really no relationship to this series or this season, as they are clearly a better team, regardless of our health.

by brettgardner on May 26, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't we cream Jackson last year...

in the same game they creamed Jamey Wright? I want to say I remember a game like that.

by cmkelly29 on May 26, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember Jackson struggling at Arlington twice

In early ‘06 and early ‘07. In ‘06 I remember he was making a spot start. In ‘07 he was in the rotation and sucked as a permanent member.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on May 26, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jackson had success there, I remember last year

But I think we lost at least two of three in April of last year in Arlington. We did sweep you all at Disney, but you all just kill us in Arlington most of the time.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on May 26, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's the point i'm trying to make...

...how is it that we can play this team poorly in Florida, and yet take a series from them at home?

is the Trop really as distracting as it seems to be? a near empty dome, with a heckler and horns, and cowbells, and artificial turf?

that’s no excuse.

by oc on May 26, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

This year, the excuse is the Rays are actually a good team

And Kazmir is a great pitcher. Even though we’re getting creamed, I don’t see any shame in it.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven

by LSJ on May 26, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's no excuse...

...because this ballclub is better too.

right now… do you think the Rays have more talent in their dugout than we do?

by oc on May 26, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's a fair question...

...i think our line-up matches up…

...obviously… the rotation and their defense is a different matter.

by oc on May 26, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think

It’s close, really. Longoria is already better than Vazquez, Hamilton would be the only OF’er to start there, obviously Pena demolishes anything we have, even if he’s off to a less-than-thrilling start. We have a better SS, 2B, and C(s).

by brettgardner on May 26, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually it's close.

DH, CF, 2nd, SS, 3B, C us. Murphy vs Hinski is kinda close, especially because Murph can play D and Hinski is just another DH out there.

by Longhorn on May 26, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh.

It would be Crawford/Upton/Hamilton in the OF. I’m not sure why you’re comparing individual OF spots when you could easily plug Hamilton at RF.

I also have absolutely no idea why you think it would be 3B us.

by LiamP on May 26, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

3B right now.

i think that was OC’s question. Longhoria is not a better hitter than Vazquez right now.

by Longhorn on May 26, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're right

i reread what he said, he said talent. nevermind on that one.

by Longhorn on May 26, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

So is

Your non-response.

If you’re suggesting that Shelton is a better player than Pena at any point of any season, I think you’re going to have a hard time finding any takers.

Make a point if you believe in it. Grasping at straws to fit a point makes you seem desperate.

by brettgardner on May 26, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

no...

...Shelton works counts better.

Pena leads the league in strikeouts…

neither of them hit for average.

by oc on May 26, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you're seriously going to

Compare the two, I guess I’ll have to go find my stat sheet. I’ll start at the part where Shelton didn’t sniff the majors last year, while Pena hit a paltry 46 HRs with a 1.038 OPS.

Seriously, pick your battles.

by brettgardner on May 26, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

okay

“pena demolishes anything we have”

His career OPS+ is 123
Shelton’s is 116

Outside of one very fluky year by Pena, Shelton might not be better, but he is probably on par with Pena and he is younger.

by Longhorn on May 26, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK

If you believe that, then good for you. Doubt you’ll find many who agree.

by brettgardner on May 26, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'll agree...

...i’ll take the guy that works a count over a guy who is historically known for striking out.

by oc on May 26, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even at the expense

Of every other statistical category?

You’d be tight with Abe Lincoln.

by brettgardner on May 26, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

just proving you wrong

on your “pena demolishes anything we have” comment.

by Longhorn on May 26, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

How?

How are you doing that, again?

by brettgardner on May 26, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Vazquez

made a hell of a stop in about the 5 inning and then got one of the few hits tonight but he is a shitty player according to some of the baseball geniuses here on this forum.

¡yo soy Horsedooty!

I soloed in the mile high club.

by Sr Horsedooty on May 26, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

We are getting shut down by Kazmir tonight

We’ve faced four really good pitchers the last four days. I see no reason to panic that we have been shut down by 3 out of those 4 starters, who routinely shut down the rest of the league.

If we get shut down by Sonnastine tomorrow, then I’ll be concerned.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven

by LSJ on May 26, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

lineup?

I’ll give us the lead 6-3 right now. Pitching, of course, they are better.

by Longhorn on May 26, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look at it this way...

In the last 4 games we’ve faced:

Fausto Carmona, Cliff Lee, C.C. Sabathia, and Scott Kazmir

We’ll probably be .500 over those 4 games, not TOO bad. Watching a loss is never fun though.

by cmkelly29 on May 26, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Newbie poster (but longtime lurkter)
I agree. I’ve been feeling the pain since the late 70’s.
Nelson Norman was god to me at that time.

Longtime lurker

by BirmMD on May 26, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rangers pitching

3rd worst ERA
Given up the most hits
Given up the most walks
Struck out the fewest batters.
Worst WHIP.

Sign Sabathia AND sheets next year. We got the cash.

by SaltyGoesYard on May 26, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

yeh but Bg Daddy may need it for soccer....

The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT

http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/16/213154/893

by LAMuscleFag on May 26, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

They won some league right?

He should use the money from that for the rangers

by SaltyGoesYard on May 26, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

you'd like to think so :)

The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT

http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/16/213154/893

by LAMuscleFag on May 26, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope...

they finished 4th in the premiership and only made the semi-finals of the champions league.

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by rangers85 on May 26, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

2006 Finals...

...this city has been cursed since then.

by oc on May 26, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

So what is

your job for the Mavs?

"We will look back in 20 years, and say that Clayton Kershaw was one of the best pitchers of all time" - me

by miles on May 26, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want

your job.

"We will look back in 20 years, and say that Clayton Kershaw was one of the best pitchers of all time" - me

by miles on May 26, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tell us why miles...

is there something you want to do to those cheerleaders? I think so. Why don’t you go ahead and tell us what that is…

heh.

by cmkelly29 on May 26, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

these Tampa hits tonight were so cheap...

...i guess that’s what’s bothering me.

by oc on May 26, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Cat's voice

sounds eerily similar to Leonardo DiCaprio

by tangiers on May 26, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

too bad his face isn't similar... damn it!

The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT

http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/16/213154/893

by LAMuscleFag on May 26, 2008 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

people who say 2.0 loads horribly

must have really bad computers. im on a 900 mhz 512 ram ity bitty asus eee pc and it loaded fine. granted its only at 90 posts but the new comments are coming in fine at least.

Gerald Laird is my hero.

by DShep on May 26, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

If I join a thread early, I never have problems

It’s if the thread already has 400 posts in it that it loads slowly… it’s been not as bad lately but still slow.

by Inkara1 on May 26, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

KINSLER!!!!

Well, a little something to cheer about at the end of the game here!

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven

by LSJ on May 26, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

damn straight...

...i would have been more upset if they had finished with one…

that would have been 5 runs in the last three games… you don’t win games like that… especially when you’ve been outslugging the other team…

by oc on May 26, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Don’t worry, our offense will be ok. We’ve just seen a sick gauntlet of really good pitchers.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven

by LSJ on May 26, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not as good as

Lee, Sabathia and Kazmir though. And they’re right handed. I fully expect us to do much better tomorrow.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven

by LSJ on May 26, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's been a long time since...

Hamilton has faced a rightie…

II Cor. 4:17-18

by TedFord on May 26, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Hah

That bat-boy.

I think everybody was thinking about Bull Durham, including Josh.

by brettgardner on May 26, 2008 8:53 PM CDT reply actions  

There's always

Tomorrow. And 5 minutes from now.

by brettgardner on May 26, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

or brett...

I know how we can try Rally Bakula again:

Maybe he’ll let us in on the secret?

by cmkelly29 on May 26, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just win the

next two games.

Aint nothing but a peanut.

"We will look back in 20 years, and say that Clayton Kershaw was one of the best pitchers of all time" - me

by miles on May 26, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Philly 20 Colorado 4

remember when a score like that would shock you?

20 runs? HA!

by cmkelly29 on May 26, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Guerrero still no hits (as far as I know)

He popped out to 1B to start the inning… then a double by Matthews (I think that’s who it is) and they showed Kenny Rogers mouthing something similar to “God DAMN it!”

by Inkara1 on May 26, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Vladi...

...doubled in his last at-bat.

stranded at third.

by oc on May 26, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would

like to have both in our lineup.

Vlad is a free agent soon…

Him as DH?

"We will look back in 20 years, and say that Clayton Kershaw was one of the best pitchers of all time" - me

by miles on May 26, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Greatness = passing if not past

Back, legs, always giving him pain.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on May 26, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

boy, Kenny Rogers...

...getting out of jams…

lookin’ good.

by oc on May 26, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Garland...

...93 pitches in the 7th…

Guillen walked to lead off the inning…

by oc on May 26, 2008 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fairy Fans...

...apparently think “Judy” is a “clever” nickname for Garland.

by oc on May 26, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

No joke

It is they who started calling a lean but rugged farm boy who punted for Nebraska and doesn’t mind contact with walls, ground, infielders, or catchers “Ersty”.

My isnt’ THAT dainty ….............

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on May 26, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I plan to.

Depends on how things work with some obligations out of state in late June.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on May 26, 2008 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm going to whichever game Lackey pitches...

...and bringing my Rally Monkey…

still need to get a seat for my guest… a witch doctor from the Congo.

by oc on May 26, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Witchdoctor

You know of him, too?

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 27, 2008 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oy... 2 outs, Renteria still at 2B

This is the first extra-inning game of the year for LAAAAAAA

by Inkara1 on May 26, 2008 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ryan Bleeping Raburn...

...who pinch hit for the useless Gary Sheffield a couple innings back…

Sheff… hitting…(ha)... hitting a paltry… .215 on the season.

by oc on May 26, 2008 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know why

I’m still up watching this game. I just know it’s going to end on something stupid.

by The Best Micah on May 26, 2008 11:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Ah...

Well, I don’t have that excuse. I’m in the midwest so it’s 11:30 here…and I gotta be up in about 6.5 hours. I just want to see how this ends.

by The Best Micah on May 26, 2008 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of the

Tigers…

Miguel Cabrera isn’t really earning that big contract yet…

"We will look back in 20 years, and say that Clayton Kershaw was one of the best pitchers of all time" - me

by miles on May 26, 2008 11:32 PM CDT reply actions  

This is starting to remind me

of a soccer game.

Scoreless and endless.
Can we just call it a tie and let it be over?

by The Best Micah on May 26, 2008 11:40 PM CDT reply actions  

At least Dusty Baker's not managing the "Angles"

In a couple more innings, we’d see Lackey pitch a few innings, then Weaver

by Inkara1 on May 26, 2008 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Joyce strikes out

Final from Seattle… Red Sox 5, M’s 3

by Inkara1 on May 26, 2008 11:43 PM CDT reply actions  

I knew

we should have signed Colon!!!!!

"We will look back in 20 years, and say that Clayton Kershaw was one of the best pitchers of all time" - me

by miles on May 26, 2008 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm going to bed after this inning

regardless of whether or not the game is over.

by The Best Micah on May 26, 2008 11:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Work is overrated

"We will look back in 20 years, and say that Clayton Kershaw was one of the best pitchers of all time" - me

by miles on May 26, 2008 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just got back from the game

There were PLENTY of good seats in the Trop. Way to go, Rays fans… gotta love it when you are on a winning streak, in first place, and your fans still won’t make a good showing on a holiday evening. I was able to sit down low behind the Rangers dugout. I was sitting next to an obnoxious Rays fan sporting a fanny pack and jorts. He and his son kept bitching that the Pena skyball should have been a home run. I said to my wife that Hamilton would have caught that ball had the catwalk not gobbled up the ball and he interjected with… OUR HOUSE, OUR RULES!!! Apparently, their rules also included wearing jorts. Just awful.

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on May 26, 2008 11:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Their house, their rules...

their ground rules say that catwalk is in play… that makes it a ground-rule double if it gets stuck there… the other catwalks are out of play and thus home runs

by Inkara1 on May 26, 2008 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know...

they were bitching that it was a home run and I knew that, under their rules, it was a double. They have 3 rings: A,B, and C. You have to hit the mother of all popups to hit the A ring and that is an out. Pena hit the B ring which is a double. The C ring is almost over the outfield wall and is a home run. It clearly hit the B ring catwalk, but genius didn’t know his team’s own rules.

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on May 26, 2008 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

jorts... haha

Sounds like an old fashioned red neck

"We will look back in 20 years, and say that Clayton Kershaw was one of the best pitchers of all time" - me

by miles on May 26, 2008 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok

I have not heard that term before. I have a new word in my vocabulary.

by The Best Micah on May 26, 2008 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're FUCKING kidding me

Bases-loaded four-pitch walk ends the game

by Inkara1 on May 27, 2008 12:00 AM CDT reply actions  

the Angels are 9 games over...

...with that pathetic excuse of an offense…

by oc on May 27, 2008 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

as the old saying goes...

...pitching and defense wins ballgames…

by oc on May 27, 2008 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

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