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I just noticed something

Somebody recommended the previous gameday thread.

Odd.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven

by LSJ on May 31, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply actions  

-1

Not that I’m guilty of said sin, but I found it a particularly amusing thread, just browsing through it.

There’s really some quality material in there—punctuated by DShep’s timing with the H-Bomb, imo.

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 31, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't say there wasn't, I'm just saying...

Gameday threads don’t usally get reccomended, at least that I’ve seen.

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by LSJ on May 31, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Should they ever get recommended?

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 31, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

*Shrug*

Don’t know. After the first ones get closed, I’m usually afraid to open them due to how big they are.

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"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven

by LSJ on May 31, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

I’m afraid that wouldn’t make my computer any faster… I need more memory in it. Got it bogged down with too many danged photos and old school projects and crap.

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"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven

by LSJ on May 31, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sidney goes 7

And has kept the team in the ballgame.

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by Mary1966 on May 31, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Dang

Cust can’t buy a hit

by iorange555 on May 31, 2008 8:56 PM CDT reply actions  

That's ok he can start hitting

On Monday.

"My death certificate will probably say: 'Cause of Death: World Series.'" Jamey Newberg

by boomer1 on May 31, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha

Yeah he can hit all he wants against them

by iorange555 on May 31, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions  

hmmm

there’s a couple of great guys there, but everyone is either too spendy, or they’ll ask for too much.

They’re really in a bad place right now.

by FirebatM3 on May 31, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's

what happens when you go all in like they did this offseason. No prospects outside of Porcello and a bunch of hard to trade contracts.

by Gdawg on May 31, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would take Granderson

I doubt they would give him up though.

"My death certificate will probably say: 'Cause of Death: World Series.'" Jamey Newberg

by boomer1 on May 31, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

If they did

They’d probably want a Tex-like package in return.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven

by LSJ on May 31, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

And that is where it would end. Our OF is very good at it is.

"My death certificate will probably say: 'Cause of Death: World Series.'" Jamey Newberg

by boomer1 on May 31, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Granderson

is like the Bizzaro Kinsler.

So overrated.

by FirebatM3 on May 31, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Bonderman...

...could be someone they’d shop, and could be someone the Rangers would go hard after.

by Adam J. Morris on May 31, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bonderman

I’ve heard mixed opinions about him. He’s got #1 starter stuff, but has never seemed to be able to realize it… what do you think DET would want, and what do you think TEX would be willing to give up, AJM?

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

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by LSJ on May 31, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

way less than they'd ask for

probably.

I really hope the Tigers get back into this thing. BEcause they’re the one team that HAS to make a deal.

by FirebatM3 on May 31, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know

It is hard to say. Bonderman is an enigma.

by Adam J. Morris on May 31, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Josh reading LSB during broadcast?

He just talked about Detroit’s situation extremely randomly.

W/E … DO YOUR THING, JOSH! Turn to LSB threads when you somehow run out of talking points.

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 31, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bonderman would be a great addition

Obviously, he will cost a decent amount in terms of prospects. Nevertheless, I think he might be the kind of player the Rangers would want to target at the deadline. It is kind of unclear whether the Rangers will be contenders or not this season. Let’s say the Rangers are around .500 in late July and sit about 6 games behind the Angels. I doubt Daniels will want to pack it up and sell off any of your top players like Padilla or Bradley. At the same time, I doubt they will want to give up a a couple solid prospects for a rent-a-player in a season where they are on the fringes of contention.

Bonderman isn’t a free agent until after 2010. If you add him in July, you control him for the rest of 2008 and all of 2009 and 2010. He has number 1 potential. Nevertheless, even if he doesn’t live up to his potential, he could still eat some innings and help the Rangers stay competitive. A rotation of Padilla, Millwood, Bonderman, Feldman, and McCarthy next season has some high upside guys and some guys at the top who can eat innings.

Bonderman also wouldn’t be blocking any premier young pitchers. It seems the highest ceiling players (Beavan, Main, Feliz, etc) are in A ball.

Would I give up a Tex-type package for Bonderman? No. But would I give up something pretty substantial? Definitely.

by stephen86 on May 31, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

John Mayberry Jr.

is tired of standing on the bases. he’s saving his strength by not swinging the bat.

Another walk today to go with a single.

by FirebatM3 on May 31, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Marlon Byrd

“My most Embarassing Baseball Moment” ...

Hey, Marlon, it wasn’t that time when you STAYED ON 3RD BASE FOR NO REASON and could have scored easily?

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 31, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply actions  

dude

he was released by the Nationals.

by FirebatM3 on May 31, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaha!!!

Oh yeah, BIG +1.

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"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven

by LSJ on May 31, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT: old picture on my old computer

I was going through pictures I had on my old computer and found this gem:

"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2

by tdi1985 on May 31, 2008 9:04 PM CDT reply actions  

well said

and excellent observation.

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 31, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Millwood and ?

...it's the weekend, so why the hell not?

by Rodney on May 31, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks...

I knew that, just brain lock.

...it's the weekend, so why the hell not?

by Rodney on May 31, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, well...

As long as they didn’t score, I guess it’s okay…

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven

by LSJ on May 31, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

He didn't...

only one on a bloop hit.

He came in with one on.

Swagger away Jack.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 31, 2008 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

The doubles

are pay back for yesterday.

by Gdawg on May 31, 2008 9:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Why on Earth

are they giving me MLB.TV commercials when I’m already watching MLB.TV

by FirebatM3 on May 31, 2008 9:07 PM CDT reply actions  

probably

to suck people into staying when they’re on the free trial.

by RachelB on May 31, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cat

manages to get to 2B safely this time.

by Gdawg on May 31, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Cat better move this guy over

or I’ll be peeved.

Hey, it could be worse...

by HighPlainsGrifter on May 31, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey

it’s you again.

I remember you.

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 31, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

clever!

(umm no, not really!)

Hey, it could be worse...

by HighPlainsGrifter on May 31, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've been waiting to do that

for a while.

I'll admit.

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 31, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Greatness!

lmao

...it's the weekend, so why the hell not?

by Rodney on May 31, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

WOO

CAT CAT CAT CAT CAT MEOW

by iorange555 on May 31, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

hide the bat

sounds kind of gross

Rare Gnats Sex

by ab03 on May 31, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice game for Cat

He made a stupid baserunning mistake, but other than that, hat off to him.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven

by LSJ on May 31, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

OT - Chase Utley just hit dinger #19

I think he and Josh Hamilton may be the two mosy beastly players in baseball right now, considering A-Rod’s been hurt.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven

by LSJ on May 31, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Utley plays in the little league

Hamilton plays in the man’s league, Hamilton is more beastly by far

by Gdawg on May 31, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

In my book

Hamilton will always be more of a beast than A-Rod

by Slaw on May 31, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

as great as arod is

i’d never describe him a beastly

http://www.buchanan4pres2008.org/
NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER

by gossamer on May 31, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

maybe metrosexually…

...it's the weekend, so why the hell not?

by Rodney on May 31, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Utley=PED's?

"My death certificate will probably say: 'Cause of Death: World Series.'" Jamey Newberg

by boomer1 on May 31, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

He has maintained his production through the crackdowns. He’s my favorite NL player, by far.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven

by LSJ on May 31, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Phils

I like Utley and Howard. And Cole Hamels is one of my favorite pitchers to watch work.

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"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven

by LSJ on May 31, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

LAAAA and Toronto

tied at 1-1 so far thanks to jerk off Torii Hunter hitting a HR. The good T. Hunter in Frisco though had a pretty good night.

by Gdawg on May 31, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions  

also

near John Danks Padres pitcher, Josh Banks, pitched a complete game shutout (well at least didn’t have any ERs) and has now gone 17 IP this season without giving up an earned run. Not bad.

by Gdawg on May 31, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

there goes the save

might as well pile on, my+hammy please.

Gerald Laird is my hero.

by DShep on May 31, 2008 9:17 PM CDT reply actions  

dang

by someone else i meant someone other than Wright.

by Longhorn on May 31, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh snap

Posted that just as Josh was saying that Wright was getting warmed up.

by LiamP on May 31, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate to mention fantasy teams...

but I wish the Rangers would quit getting tack on runs to make it a 4 run lead in the 8th with CJ on my fantasy team :)

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by rangers85 on May 31, 2008 9:17 PM CDT reply actions  

+1 MM

Hadn’t thought of it like that.

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 31, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why wouldn't it?

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 31, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

because he was picked off

and not caught stealing a base. Yahoo box score doesn’t count it as a CS

by Gdawg on May 31, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed...

mlb.com box score has it as a PO

"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2

by tdi1985 on May 31, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok then

good.

Gerald Laird is my hero.

by DShep on May 31, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm watching the game, yes

That would seem to be a caught stealing attempt from Kinsler’s perspective, but if it’s not, awesome.

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 31, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

no way

that can’t be considered a CS

by Longhorn on May 31, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think that ends his streak

It’s just a pickoff, yes? And he’s been picked off before this year too, I think.

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven

by LSJ on May 31, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

well i hope it doesnt

i just remember some people talking about that 2 of someones 3 caught stealings this year were pickoffs. maybe they were wrong.

Gerald Laird is my hero.

by DShep on May 31, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

I think that was me and I think I was wrong.

by bigsteve on May 31, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

youve led me astray

banned.

=)

im just relieved its still on.

Gerald Laird is my hero.

by DShep on May 31, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the runner breaks for 2nd...

...then it is a caught stealing.

I think if the runner gets tagged trying to get back to first, it isn’t.

by Adam J. Morris on May 31, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

*Cough cough*

How do we determine intent?

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 31, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

It isn't intent

It is what the runner does. Kinsler didn’t break towards second, he tried to get back to first.

If the pitcher had thrown the ball to first and Kinsler had broken to second, and gotten tagged out there (or gotten into a rundown), then it is a caught stealing.

by Adam J. Morris on May 31, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ambiguity

Some guys lean to 2nd anyway in their leadoff motion, so how would you know if he had turned or not to break for 2B?

Like, for instance, if he flinched, while facing 2B, but then dove back to 1B. He wouldn’t have “broke” for 2B, he just flinched from his leadoff position.

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 31, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

What is defined as

“breaking for 2nd?” is my question, basically. Is this at the 1B umpire’s discretion, judgment call wise?

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 31, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

If the runner dives back to first, it is a pickoff.

If he goes to second and is out there, it is a caught stealing.

by Adam J. Morris on May 31, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is a matter of where the out took place?

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 31, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you see what I'm saying?

What if the runner actually “broke” to 2B for one second or two, turned right back and dove into 1B, and got tagged out, irregardless of what transpired with the baseball (whether the catcher or pitcher or MIF threw him out at 1B)?

Is that a caught stealing?

CS and PO are mutually exclusive events, I’m assuming is the point you’re making.

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on Jun 1, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Something to that effect

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 31, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was he

“holding”?

...it's the weekend, so why the hell not?

by Rodney on May 31, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

omfg

................. LOL

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 31, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

boo

don’t need any reminders of school

Rare Gnats Sex

by ab03 on May 31, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTF

Kinsler can’t get touched stealing a base, but gets picked off???

by Gdawg on May 31, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

kinsler

i wanted to see Josh again, come on boy.

by Longhorn on May 31, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

well

we COULD give up 4 runs in the top of the 9th… then you’d see josh again.

maybe not?

by RachelB on May 31, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

new pick off move

it was pretty quick for a righty

Rare Gnats Sex

by ab03 on May 31, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Going to be one game above .500

Soon!

"My death certificate will probably say: 'Cause of Death: World Series.'" Jamey Newberg

by boomer1 on May 31, 2008 9:21 PM CDT reply actions  

what the F?

take that back right now

Rare Gnats Sex

by ab03 on May 31, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I won't

Because it’s true!

"My death certificate will probably say: 'Cause of Death: World Series.'" Jamey Newberg

by boomer1 on May 31, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

you tempt the gods

remember what happened last time we went above .500? If you don’t take that back, the same thing will happen now

by FirebatM3 on May 31, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

baseball gods

please forgive his hubris. we’re not used to winning

Rare Gnats Sex

by ab03 on May 31, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

HWC!

.500 … +

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 31, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Great way to end the month of May

1 game over .500, like 1 or 1.5 games back of second place in the division and possibly 3 GB of 1st place. SP has looked good to begin the month and end the month. The bullpen seems to be back. The offense is amazing. Its actually fun rooting for the Rangers now.

by Gdawg on May 31, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh yeah

Jamey Wright knows how to defend the mound

by Gdawg on May 31, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Ball freakin' Game!

"My death certificate will probably say: 'Cause of Death: World Series.'" Jamey Newberg

by boomer1 on May 31, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

MY

Player of the game?

Thats some FOTF ass kissing

Please forgive any and all typos, mispellings, etc.
Your kindess in this matter is appreciated.

by red shoe ranger on May 31, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

-1

He had the go-ahead single that scored Kinsler. Hammy’s blast made it 6-3.

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 31, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

WHOOOOOOO!!!!!

ABOVE .500!!!!

Feels good to be back… lets stay here awhile, K?

A Lonestar in California - 2.0

"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven

by LSJ on May 31, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

How about this

A’s batters: 0BB’s
Rangers batters: 0 K’s

Rare Gnats Sex

by ab03 on May 31, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Damn....

....stunningly outrageous!

...it's the weekend, so why the hell not?

by Rodney on May 31, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Amazing, simply amazing

I never thought I’d see back-back games from the Rangers without them giving up a walk and a single game where they didn’t have a K.

by Gdawg on May 31, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Y ES!

above .500!

Hey, it could be worse...

by HighPlainsGrifter on May 31, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

BOOM!

Keanu Reeves sucks again the Rangers explode after going above .500

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by rangers85 on May 31, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

It's Dallas.

probably just gunshots. ;)

Hey, it could be worse...

by HighPlainsGrifter on May 31, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Chase. Dominguez is not really your liking" - Mr Santos

by inactive lsb user on May 31, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I miss living close to TBiA

I used to have a condo @ N Cooper & Green Oaks…the balcony directly faced the Ballpark.

Better times, those were.

...it's the weekend, so why the hell not?

by Rodney on May 31, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Buzz is greatness,

although he can be a beating sometimes.

...it's the weekend, so why the hell not?

by Rodney on May 31, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is there a better...

top of the lineup 1-4 in baseball right now?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 31, 2008 10:36 PM CDT reply actions  

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