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by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 9:43 AM CDT
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PrintThe Rangers are now tied with the Mariners for 3rd place in the A.L. West.
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being happy about third.
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by red shoe ranger on May 4, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
That.
It’s probably more just me, but I start rooting for the better draft pick when the team isn’t winning.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on May 4, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Ah, so after 20% of the season
you’re ready for the team to throw in the towel and tank it? Wait for the rest of us to catch up with that thinking in July/August.
There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.
by SarasotaRanger on May 4, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Y'know...
My post was overly negative. S’cool to delete it…
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on May 4, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
To be fair
The Mariners were considered by many to be the favorite in this division.
Us being tied for 3rd with them puts the rangers season in perspective – their season has been far more disappointing than ours. Yes, injuries played a role, but Anaheim also has injuries and you can’t say that Bedard missing time was a shock.
This little win streak takes the Rangers out of the “bad” category and back into the “mediocre” where they belong…
4 wins does that?
So what is 6, world series contenders?
by SaltyGoesYard on May 4, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
No, 3rd place does that...
for now… unless they go on another FAIL spree.
There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.
by SarasotaRanger on May 4, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
To be honest...
I never considered them favorites for the division like all the experts. I thought with their offense they’d finish bottom of the division.
Stars in a Texas Night Sky, a Dallas Stars blog from a fan's perspective.
I gotta say
things are looking up around here. If the fellas could go ahead and break out the brooms today in Oakland, that’d really be the icing on the cake, amirite?
hells
yeah
Please forgive any and all typos, mispellings, etc.
Your kindess in this matter is appreciated.
Representing...
I’ll be at the game again today – as always representing Ranger Blue/Red. If you see that Lone Star in the crowd (2nd row right behind home plate), know that you are all being represented…lol I’ll be bringing my broom..
Stranded RangR Fan In San Fran
by Stranded Rangr Fan In San Fran on May 4, 2008 10:36 AM CDT reply actions
I swear...
None of you must care about getting that #1 overall pick. I really thought we could have been a contender this year.
Is it a fantasy draft?
Do we need to consult Brandon Funston? If so, do we get to keep our current lineup and draft Jake Peavy? If we can’t protect our lineup, does ARod come back to Arlington? What about Utley/Hamilton? Is it a snake-draft or standard?
Oh wait, I see what hightower is saying up there...
We should root for losses, so we get the #1 draft pick and stock up the minors with major talent… The only thing we’ve got going for us right now and the strongest part of this organization… I see.
even with all the good play
.500 does not seem attainable. not in the near future at least
Rare Gnats Sex
OT: Benson
i saw this over at espn.com and this is bull shit…
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3380764
I’ve been out on that lake several times with my friends and everyone on every one of those boats is always drinking. And a life jacket>?? What the hell does that have to do with anything?
This seems like a classic case of profiling…
just got ownaged
Well what did you expect
He can’t get past linebackers in football.
Don’t expect him not to get tackled by the law as well.
by SaltyGoesYard on May 4, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
hahahahaha!
There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.
by SarasotaRanger on May 4, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
If it's
Illegal, it’s illegal. Why should he not get punished?
I doubt you’d be so appalled if he had gone to Rutgers.
by brettgardner on May 4, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay
ESPN just updated the story, before i swear it said he was drinking on the boat and that’s why he was arrested. Still, i don’t care what team he played for, and i’m guessing you never been out to Lake Travis, but if you did then you would probably understand why i would say that they profiled in this case …
just got ownaged
Bullshit?
Boating while intoxicated is bullshit? It’s illegal…
Is it enforced a lot? No, because it’s hard to catch. However, being Cedric Benson, I’m not suprised he managed to get caught.
I'm not surprised either
He hasn’t outrun anyone in several years
As much as I rooted for Benson when he was at UT
I have several friends that went to Midland Lee with him and none of them have a single nice thing to say about him. While everyone may have been intoxicated on the lake, this is not the first time he has been in trouble with the law. If he wasn’t a former Longhorn, you would be talking about what a piece of trash pro athlete he is.
So, if he went to Hampton or Grambling, you will still give him the benefit of the doubt
He was arrested twice at UT and never really punished (back before Mack actually punished UT football players that go in trouble) and now he resists arrest and has to be taken down with pepper spray. From everything I have ever heard about him, he is just not a good guy.
And the Bears are just looking for a reason to cut his sorry ass. He may have just given them one.
yes
if i have been to the lakes near those schools and see how it goes down over there than of course i would be…
why was he arrested twice at UT?
just got ownaged
yeah
noone at UT smokes pot, especially the football players. And if i thought someone stole my TV, im going after it…i love my LCDIzzle.
just got ownaged
This is cliche
but just because everyone else does something, doesn’t mean you should do it. Last I checked, smoking pot and driving a boat while being drunk are still illegal. A lot of people may do it, but if you get caught doing it, you still deserve to be punished.
If you are a scholarship athlete at UT, you are held to a higher standard. You can’t go around kicking in doors. Besides the legality of kicking in someones door, he is lucky he didn’t get shot (see Carter Albrecht) as soon as he kicked in the door.
If I am Benson and have been a complete bust in the NFL and see my team draft a RB in the second round of the draft, the way I prove that I belong on the Bears is not by getting arrested a week later.
higher standard?
what?
So, now it’s all making sense, because he’s a bust he shouldn’t be partying with his friends on a boat in the offseason…
just got ownaged
you are really going to break into someone's house
if you think they stole your TV?
you should be thrown in jail.
Rare Gnats Sex
If you break into someone's house...
....because you think they stole your TV, you likely will be thrown in jail.
by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha, nice counselor.
There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.
by SarasotaRanger on May 4, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Wearing a lifejacket...
is grounds for a fine, I think; much like seat-belts in cars.
Also, 15 people on boat? Sounds like a party to me.
yeah
what’s wrong with that? I’m thinking you never been out to Lake Travis either. The employees don’t even enforce wearing a life jacket. If that was the case everyone out there would be fined…
stopped for “a RANDOM safety inspection”
yeah, i’m sure it was random…
just got ownaged
Coast guard
and the like can be very, very strict. Sometimes they’re real DBags. If I saw 15 people drinking on a boat, I’d probably be a bit suspicious too…
well
if that’s the case, they should be suspicious about half the boats out there then…
just got ownaged
Sounds like...
you do this stuff on a regular occurrence and are afraid of being caught and arrested for it now.
Does everyone who breaks the law get caught? No. But if you get caught, you’ve gotten caught. Every day on I-35, 820, or any number of other highways a lot of people speed, but the police catch only a small percentage of those. Does that mean no one should be fined for it since everyone was doing it and a few unfortunate ones were caught?
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I have a boat on Lake Travis
And you’re right that more than half the people on the lake on a given weekend are hammered. With that in mind, the cops know this as well and they don’t have to profile boaters to stay busy. There are constantly people doing stupid things that capture the attention of the numerous law enforcement officers on the lake. So if Ced got caught on Lake Travis, he probably did something stupid.
by robert_d_wilfong on May 4, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate pulling for the Yankees
so I just hope the Mariners lose.
There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.
Well
There’s only one rookie in their rotation. Smith and Childress both have 4 years, Williams has 3, Zaza has 5, Johnson has 8 and Bibby has 11.
They’re inexperienced in the playoffs, but they’re not that young, at least in terms of NBA service time.
I think the only reasonable explanation is that the Celtics have lost focus and lapsed in their intensity.
Maybe because
they’re about a 40-win team.
...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.
Well
Record isn’t exactly something you can average or find a pattern in, since they likely got the majority of their victories against bad teams, and their losses against good ones.
If, though, you meant that they’re just not very good in general, then I agree.
They have impressed me...
Just a young team. They get pumped up at home and play over their heads.
Youth and energy can only take you so far though, and winning on the road in the playoffs against the Celtics isn’t one of those places.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Come on
Because he changed his mind
No, because he agreed to a deal with the Cavs, the Cavs let him out of his contract based on that agreement, and then he turned around and said, “Oh, nevermind, I’m reneging and going elsewhere.”
Scumbag.
by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
That's
Really really tired.
Cleveland was under no obligation to honor his request. I love how everybody makes it seem as if Cleveland is the most heavenly organization in the world. The reason they did it? They were trying to sign him to the MLE They were trying to screw him financially, so he said “no thanks” once he got a better offer, and returned the favor. Regardless of who you believe in the debate, Cleveland made a dumb business decision and got burned. They could have easily extended him, or at the very least picked up his option the year before.
He was trying to make the most money in a place he wanted to be. If you hate your job, you can just quit and go somewhere else. Not so with NBA players. He hedged his bets, and Utah obliged him, which they were authorized to.
As for the supposed indignation of Pelinka…right. He distanced so that the popular perception of the deal wouldn’t stick to him.
I don't think I...
...or anyone else, is making Cleveland out to be a “heavenly” organization. On the other hand, saying they were trying to “screw” Boozer is just stupid, and to say he “returned the favor” by screwing them over is even more so.
He said he wanted to stay. The only way they could do a long term deal was by declining the option and offering him the biggest contract they could, which was the MLE. The other option was to wait a year and see what happened them.
If they made a stupid business decision, it was because they believed that Boozer was honorable and took him at his word. It doesn’t make Boozer any less of a scumbag.
by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
"Just stupid"
You crack me up. Sorry, I forgot you’re the smartest guy in the room.
Saying that the only thing they could do was decline the option or wait just isn’t correct. Saying it doesn’t make it so. The two options I pointed out above were certainly viable, but Cleveland was too cautious.
The guy got his money, which is what he obviously wanted, and Cleveland saved their money, which is obviously what they wanted.
Calling him a scumbag because he may or may not have honored a questionably legal contract under the CBA is certainly no smarter than anything I said.
Huh?
Saying that the only thing they could do was decline the option or wait just isn’t correct.
What are the other options?
They couldn’t have extended him that offseason. If they could have done that without declining the option and making him a restricted free agent, they would have.
What other options did the Cavs have, other than exercising the option and negotiating with him the next season, or declining the option and making him a free agent?
by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
You're
Just wrong.
They absolutely could have extended him. On what basis are you saying they couldn’t?
The CBA says:
“[A]n Extension of a Rookie Scale Contract may cover, in the aggregate, up to but no more than six (6) Seasons (including any Season covered by an Option) from the date such extension is signed.”
Cleveland themselves extended Lebron when he was in the same situation.
The reason they didn’t want to extend him was because signing him to the MLE would be cheaper and they knew it.
They also could have picked up the option earlier, as I said.
No, you are just wrong
The Cavs couldn’t extend Boozer that summer. If they could extend him that summer, why would they have declined the option and try to sign him to an MLE?
They were over the cap. Boozer was a second round pick, and until a player has been with a team for three years, you can’t go over the cap to sign one of your guys. That’s why Golden State couldn’t keep Gilbert Arenas.
The Cavs COULD NOT EXTEND BOOZER FOR BIG MONEY THAT OFFSEASON. That was not an option. If they could have done a big extension like that, they wouldn’t have had to decline the option and allow him to be a free agent.
I don’t understand why you keep arguing this. I assume you didn’t follow all this when it happened.
by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Why do you assume that?
Because I’m not linking you to Sports Illustrated? Or you’re just a guy who operates by condescension?
Yes, I forgot that Boozer was a second round pick, and I remembered him being drafted in 2001. My mistake. It really doesn’t add to your overall claim that he’s a scumbag, or detract from mine that Cleveland made a bad decision.
You’d do well to learn how to have a civil discussion without resorting to “stupid” comments or assumptions that make you seem like a dick.
Sorry...
...if you think that me saying that an assertion that the Cavs were trying to “screw” Boozer is stupid, but I know of no other way to describe it.
They weren’t trying to screw him. They were trying to sign him to a long-term deal - something he wanted - the only way they could under the circumstances.
by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
I obviously wouldn’t say it the same way now, knowing he was an ‘01 pick.
Regardless, the Cavs could-and should-have picked up his option, and waiting until after his second year wasn’t that smart. He did put up about 10 and 7 his rookie year. All involved knew he could get a big contract after the next year, and Cleveland was happy to preempt that in case Boozer turned into a 20 and 10 guy, even if they didn’t initiate the idea.
They gave big Z a giant contract at the same time they could have given one to Boozer.
The fact that Cleveland pushed their luck and Boozer took advantage of it doesn’t make him a scumbag. Maybe it makes him greedy, but the difference between 700k and several million is quite large.
So Cleveland wasn’t trying to screw him; they were trying to pinch pennies.
Ilgauskas
They gave big Z a giant contract at the same time they could have given one to Boozer.
It was over a year after Boozer left.
by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
You didn't
Understand. Sorry I didn’t make clear what I meant.
I know that. I meant it could have been the same time after the 3rd year.
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