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If I were Mavs GM....

First and foremost..

Resign:

Antione Wright

Tyronne Lue

JJ Barea

Sign(mid level exception):

Mickael Pietrus

Stromile Swift

Trade:

Josh Howard for Shawn Marion(Sign and Trade)

Explanation:

Pietrus brings us what we need from the shooting guard position, he can shoot the three and he drives the ball.  He has the size and body to start for us.  He isn't a perfect SG, but he can fill the hole at part of the mid level exception.

Swift is a player I really like.  He is one of the most athletic centers in the league, and he can score the ball as well.  He would be able to defend the athletic bigs such as Amare which the Mavs lacked after giving up Diop.

Shawn Marion might want to be the star of a team, but he loved playing for Kidd and he knows he will get the ball in good positions on the floor from Kidd.  He would be the number 2 guy with Dirk, and he would still be able to average 20 points a game.  He knows how to play with Kidd, the running style offense is the type he is good in. 

Adding these players makes this offense more athletic, fast, and quick.  These players thrive by running down the court on fast break, which Kidd is more than capable of setting them up.

Lineup:

PG- Kidd/ Lue/ Barea

SG- Pietrus/Terry/ Wright

SF- Marion/Stackhouse

PF- Dirk/Bass

C- Dampier/ Swift

6th man- Terry

 

What do yo think?

 

 

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Me too.

Too bad we cant get him.

by coolaid on May 4, 2008 10:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We don't have

any trading pieces they would take..

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 10:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll admit

i’m not entirely sure how the NBA works with salary, money matching, poison pill contracts, all that crap…but, Howard won’t fetch Redd?

But, if not Redd, i think the Mavs need to do something to get one of either Maggette, Artest, or Arenas. I would love for it to be Maggette. And for the heck of it, he’s a good defender, sign Royal Ivey, :).

just got ownaged

by Longhorn on May 4, 2008 10:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Redd

makes 14 million and Howard makes 9. The only contract we have around 5 million to match is Stackhouse and he makes 7 million.

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 10:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so

stack and howard, i believe i read that somewhere else recently…

just got ownaged

by Longhorn on May 4, 2008 10:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yup

It’d work under the cap.

They have to be within 125% of each other.

"If we where [sic] gonna trade them Salty, I would want a helluva lot more than just Joba though." -lonestarJon

by thedirkatron on May 4, 2008 11:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trade

Howard, Kidd and Bass for Redd and Bogut. Milwaukee instantly becomes a playoff team and gets to pair Kidd with Yi in the East (and gets the expiring contract). Dallas gets a great scorer to pair with Dirk and an inside presence.

by Jack Nicholson 1974 on May 5, 2008 12:08 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry

But that would never, ever happen.

by brettgardner on May 5, 2008 12:09 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a gift.

Seriously though—why would they trade their best player and an effective young center that they just locked up for a proven second/third banana, a PG that would be useless to them, and a nice 7-8th man?

The only benefit is Kidd’s expiring deal. Howard only works for them if they have Bogut, in my opinion.

by brettgardner on May 5, 2008 12:23 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

it wouldn’t work from a salary perspective for one. And he’s right that it would make zero sense for Milwaukee to deal Bogut at this point.

If you did your deal, plus added Stack from our side and agreed to take Bobby Simmons and Mo Williams and their awful contracts back in return it would work financially, and maybe Milwaukee would think about since it’d save them like a billion dollars… but even then I highly, highly doubt it.

"If we where [sic] gonna trade them Salty, I would want a helluva lot more than just Joba though." -lonestarJon

by thedirkatron on May 5, 2008 12:23 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would be

Furious if Dallas took Mo Williams back in a deal. That is such an awful contract.

Simmons, Mason and Charlie V are the guys I target in any Mil deal. Redd’s just not worth it for us.

by brettgardner on May 5, 2008 12:27 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm retarded

I meant to have Williams in there, too – FWIW.

by Jack Nicholson 1974 on May 5, 2008 12:38 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marion

He doesn’t seem like he’s going to have a whole lot of top years left.

Seems like you’d have to commit 5-6 years to get him, and he’s got only a couple seasons left in the tank at a high level.

by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 10:25 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Would

another team offer him 5 years?

What if we could get him for 4 years, would you do that?

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 10:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dunno

You’d have to give up more than Howard, though, for the contracts to match up.

by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 10:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How much

is Marion going to get?

Howard is 9 mill

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 10:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's going to ask for a max deal

He’ll never get it (I thought that about Rashard Lewis too), but that’s what he will be asking for.

www.mavsmoneyball.com

by Wes Cox on May 4, 2008 10:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interesting..

So like a Howard+Stack+Jones

two expiring contracts.

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 10:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Two expiring contracts?

Jones is the only expiring contract. Don’t know where you are getting a 2nd one from.

by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 11:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As in

next year is their final year.

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 11:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No

Neither Howard nor Stack will be in their final year in 2008-09.

by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 11:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know Howard

isn’t.

Stacks final year is next year, correct?

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 11:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No

He is signed through 2009-10.

by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 11:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow,

what dumbass gave him that contract? Did he just sign an extension this past year?

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 11:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

x
what dumbass gave him that contract?

by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 11:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought the '09/'10

was an option year? Swear I read that somewhere, though it might have been a lie.

Hoopshype.com is usually pretty good about such things, and they don’t have any information on his contract at all beyond this year.

"If we where [sic] gonna trade them Salty, I would want a helluva lot more than just Joba though." -lonestarJon

by thedirkatron on May 4, 2008 11:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's

Signed, but in the third year, only 2 mill is guaranteed.

by brettgardner on May 4, 2008 11:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Then

maybe Dallas can include “cash considerations” of 2 million?

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 11:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yah

Plus he’d probably be bought out anyways and go elsewhere in search of a title shot. Heck, maybe he’d come back here… if he can keep his mouth shut long enough for a trade to actually go through this time.

"If we where [sic] gonna trade them Salty, I would want a helluva lot more than just Joba though." -lonestarJon

by thedirkatron on May 4, 2008 11:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At this point

Stack has more value to us as a coach than as a player.

by brettgardner on May 4, 2008 11:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cuban signed Stack?

i thought he was traded to Dallas…

just got ownaged

by Longhorn on May 4, 2008 11:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Then

we extended him.

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 11:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If my

NBA CBA memory is correct, neither Marion nor Jones can be traded because they are in the last non-exercisable year of their contracts, at least not in conjunction with other players, and at least not unless they don’t exercise their ETO.

Remarking on it, though, I can’t see why either would. Carry on.

by brettgardner on May 4, 2008 11:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don' think

you could get Marion for Howard straight up. I’d like to add recalling Reyshawn Terry from Europe to that list as well.

by sprite on May 4, 2008 10:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah,

I love Reyshawn, he is a real beast.

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 10:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If I were Mavs GM

the team would be in big trouble because I know nothing about Basketball.

...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on May 4, 2008 10:43 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's funny shit

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 4, 2008 10:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Miles...

That lineup gets you a 7/8 seed at best in the West, and could very easily miss the playoffs altogether.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 4, 2008 10:47 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Huh?

Coming from a Celtics fan, I don’t know what to make of that comment.

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 10:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't see

your reasoning…

Marion would be a huge upgrade over Howard.

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 10:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You have Dirk...

Marion, an aging point guard (in decline), and some non-factors. What’s not to get.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 4, 2008 10:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well...

Pietrus brings an athletic shooting guard that can score, no doubt that team would be alot better than this years team.

Plus, Kiss would finnaly understand the offense and have time to adjust.

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 10:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not really

You’re adding a 30 year old wing player who relies on his athleticism.

Those guys don’t age well. I doubt he’d be a whole hell of a lot better than Howard was this season.

by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 10:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Playoffs.

Howard F’ed us over with his jump shooting. He is a terrible jump shooter yet he throws those things up that rarely ever go in..

He shot like 20 percent? I think Marion could atleast double that…

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 11:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well...

In that case, you could just keep Howard. I’m betting he’d shoot at least 40% in the playoffs next season, if the Mavs made the playoffs.

by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 11:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd rather

have three shooting ability of Marion, and he plays with Kidd alot better. Marion actually knows the reasoning in driving the ball.

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 11:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If I were the Mavs g.m.

I’d probably just blow it up. I don’t see a combination of moves you could make right now that would make this team a legit championship contender next year.

by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 11:09 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I see

one more shot at it.

Kidd will have had adjusted.

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by miles on May 4, 2008 11:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Adjusted to what?

He’s going to be a year older and a year slower.

Other than Bass, and maybe Howard, there’s no one on this team that you can’t reasonably expect to get worse next year.

by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 11:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who's Avery?

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by miles on May 4, 2008 11:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i don't agree that

aging 5-6 months will make a player worse….

just got ownaged

by Longhorn on May 4, 2008 11:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Few Hall of Famers in any sport...

have to have an ‘adjustment period.’ that’s why they’re hall-of-famers. high IQ and talent.

by Apes and Androids on May 4, 2008 11:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That

is so untrue it isn’t even funny..

Whenever you have new teammates, you have to adjust. Especially when you are running the offense and team.

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 11:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dude

Kidd will be 36 next season. He’s old. He isn’t all that anymore.

by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 11:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not

saying he isn’t old.

But everyone has to adjust to a new team, even HOF’ers.

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 11:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What would I do?

Trade: Howard and Stack to Milwaukee for Michael Redd.

It gets us a great shooter and scorer to take some of the pressure off of Dirk, and it gets them younger while providing some pretty significant cap relief.

Trade: Jason Terry and some salary filler to Utah for Andrie Kirilenko.

Utah (and presumably Sloan) has always had a thing for Terry, dating back to when they tried to sign him away from Atlanta. He’d fill the role Derek Fisher filled so well for them last year. They’d also clear some salary in the deal, and rid themselves of Link, who doesn’t fit at SF in their system and who doesn’t get along with their coach. It gets us a great defensive wing who can run the floor and block shots. Also it rids me of having to watch Jason Terry.

Sign: Use the mid-level to grab a veteran banger (Theo Ratliff, maybe? I don’t know who’s available) and a spot-up shooter/defender/Raja Bell-type wing player.

"If we where [sic] gonna trade them Salty, I would want a helluva lot more than just Joba though." -lonestarJon

by thedirkatron on May 4, 2008 11:12 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you want

a Sharpshooter, why not trade for Mike Miller?

Giving up Howard for a good three point shooter seems pretty pointless.

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 11:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here's the problem

I don’t think either Milwaukee or Utah does that deal.

I think, if the Jazz want to deal AK-47, they can get something better than an old, undersized, jump-shooting 2 guard for him.

Josh Howard is 8 months younger than Redd. And i don’t see how that deal helps the Bucks’ salary situation.

by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 11:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Plus

They already addressed their perimeter shooting with Korver.

Also, AK is a really good player and a starter. No reason to trade that in order to get a 6th man with a longer contract.

by brettgardner on May 4, 2008 11:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's not that good...

and has really fallen out of favor with the organization, coaches, and the fans here. I think he is dealt this summer. Just not sure where.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 4, 2008 11:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He may be dealt...

...but he’ll fetch more than Jason Terry and his bloated contract.

by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2008 11:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He

Is that good, just not as a go-to threat.

by brettgardner on May 4, 2008 11:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agree to disagree...

I’ve watched a lot of Jazz basketball living here and I don’t think he’s good at all.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 4, 2008 11:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How can you

say that?

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 11:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

x

for the season, 38 percent from threes and 50 percent from FG is pretty good.

1.5 blocks per game as well.

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 11:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because he will...

have a good game or 2, get you some blocks, boards, and play good D and then just disapear for a week at a time. Plus the guy thinks (and has said so) that he’s a scorer and wants to shoot shots that he has no buisness taking. He is a bad offensive player who thinks he is good. Not a good combo.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 4, 2008 11:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I realize that

And I’m sure you’ve watched many more games than I have, but I have seen a significant amount of them.

Is he as highly thought-of as he was a few years ago? Of course not.

Is he very good defensively and erratic offensively? Yep.

He’d fit in nicely here, but only if we significantly improved the offense.

by brettgardner on May 4, 2008 11:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm sure you know...

what your talking about, and I agree with your assessment of him. Not saying I know more about him just because I live here.

Just saying I’ve seen him play a lot and think he is very overrated. He wants to be one of he go-to guys on offense, and he shouldn’t be on any good team (ie the Jazz).

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 4, 2008 11:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree

That he’s overrated and he’s not good offensively, at least not consistently.

Sorry if it came off that I think I know more on the subject than you. I don’t.

by brettgardner on May 4, 2008 11:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Utah...

is willing to give up AK to anyone that will take him and his contract. I think they would do that deal for Terry+.

Not sure that helps the Mavs though, if Terry frustrates you, AK would drive you nuts. At least he does to Jazz fans here.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 4, 2008 11:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For

A slightly cheaper contract that’s a year longer?

by brettgardner on May 4, 2008 11:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He is one

of the best all around players in the league..

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 11:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No he's not...

and every Jazz fan here who watches him play everyday will tell you the same thing, sorry.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 4, 2008 11:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Then

Jazz fans are dumb, last year in the playoffs he fell off the wagon. But he rebounded and is doing good this year.

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 11:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AK-47

His value has really taken a beating the last year and a half. His contract is an absolute monstrosity that I think Utah would love to get from under. I don’t know how many teams would be getting in line to trade for an injury-prone guy like AK-47 who’s never going to be a great scorer and who makes $15,080,312, $16,451,250 and $17,822,187 over the next three year. You’d have to be pretty desperate to acquire him, imo, and have the sort of team that could take the offensive pressure off of him. As for Utah and Terry… well, like I said, they really loved what they got out of Fisher last year, and they really missed that this season, imo. Plus AK-47 just looks lost playing SF in that system, so they might be looking to get rid of him with emergence of Ronnie Brewer and Korver coming over and doing so well.

As for the Redd deal… you’re probably right, but who knows. Milwaukee is supposedly interested in moving Redd in the right deal.

"If we where [sic] gonna trade them Salty, I would want a helluva lot more than just Joba though." -lonestarJon

by thedirkatron on May 4, 2008 11:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wonder if

They wouldn’t talk to Cleveland about taking a few of those monstrous expiring contracts off their hands for a guy whose nuts alone could outscore Gibson.

by brettgardner on May 4, 2008 11:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We could

use wally szerbiak…

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by miles on May 4, 2008 11:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Uh

We could use his contract. His body is pretty worthless.

by brettgardner on May 4, 2008 11:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

3 point shooting.

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by miles on May 4, 2008 11:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on Miles...

Wally F’n Szczerbiak sucks.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 4, 2008 11:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

40%

career 3P shooting, 41% this year.

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by miles on May 5, 2008 12:03 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

0%

career defense played, -7% this year.

The guy couldn’t keep my grandmother in front of him at this point, and she’s fucking dead.

"If we where [sic] gonna trade them Salty, I would want a helluva lot more than just Joba though." -lonestarJon

by thedirkatron on May 5, 2008 12:06 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha

Sorry to laugh, but if you’re going to laugh at one clause, have to laugh at them all.

Known by its neighbors and all that.

by brettgardner on May 5, 2008 12:08 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Huh?

Are you talking about Cleveland being interested in Terry, or Redd?

Redd makes a ton of sense for them on a variety of levels, but then you have to deal with the retarded notion that nearly all GM’s have about “never trade within your own division”.

I say take the best deal possible no matter what, but a lot of GM’s really seem to live by that old axiom.

"If we where [sic] gonna trade them Salty, I would want a helluva lot more than just Joba though." -lonestarJon

by thedirkatron on May 4, 2008 11:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Redd.

And normally I’d agree, but Redd’s going to be Stackhouse by the time the Bucks are ready to compete, their recent playoff trip notwithstanding.

by brettgardner on May 4, 2008 11:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It actually would

See this post.

http://www.brewhoop.com/2008/5/1/470851/josh-howard-available-let

Howard+Stack for Redd is a lot more likely than anything Miles proposed. Howard for Marion ain’t happening.

by jthig32 on May 5, 2008 12:17 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So your

basing this on some fans?

People in Milwaukee?

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by miles on May 5, 2008 12:22 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

that’s all we are is fans.

"If we where [sic] gonna trade them Salty, I would want a helluva lot more than just Joba though." -lonestarJon

by thedirkatron on May 5, 2008 12:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Some with

sources… heh..

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by miles on May 5, 2008 12:33 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you have guys in

cincy AND milwaukee? lol

Every loss is one step closer to the top of the draft in 2009!

by knockoutking on May 5, 2008 2:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm basing it on logic

In my opinion the Milwaukee deal makes a lot more sense.

by jthig32 on May 5, 2008 12:57 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dirk

If you’re dealing with Mil, get Charlie V.

If you’re dealing with Utah, get Miles.

Adam’s reasoning below is pretty accurate, except I think that Mil could use Howard, especially with Skiles.

by brettgardner on May 4, 2008 11:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Any team

could get CJ Miles, they would probably give him away. He was a free agent before last year.

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by miles on May 4, 2008 11:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you suggesting

trading Dirk for a package around Villanueva or CJ Miles? I think you’re severely undervaluing Dirk.

by sprite on May 4, 2008 11:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm?

No…I was talking about Howard and/or Terry…

by brettgardner on May 4, 2008 11:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wouldn't

even think about giving up Howard for CJ…

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by miles on May 4, 2008 11:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

Obviously I’m not talking about straight-up.

Just saying. Those guys are good guys to score in a deal, not that they should be the headliners.

by brettgardner on May 4, 2008 11:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well,

when I saw Dirk as the subject line I thought you suggesting those as players to target in a Dirk trade. My apologies.

by sprite on May 4, 2008 11:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh

I was responding to dirkatron and just shortened it. Sorry for the confusion.

by brettgardner on May 4, 2008 11:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh

And I see now that Miles is free. I say get him, Dallas.

by brettgardner on May 4, 2008 11:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CJ

That is. Not our miles.

by brettgardner on May 4, 2008 11:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We already

have a young SG in Antione Wright who I think is better.

CJ needs to put on weight. Antione Wright is a big 6-7, athletic, defensive ability’s which CJ doesn’t have.

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 11:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know

You love Wright, but he’s really nothing special, and he’s done absolutely nothing in the NBA to warrant your love for him.

He’s nice to have around for about 2 minutes a night, but I’m pretty sure I could shoot better than him (keeping in mind that he’s rarely under pressure and generally shoots and misses open shots).

by brettgardner on May 4, 2008 11:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His stats rock.

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 4, 2008 11:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Probably Not In Conference

As close as everything is in the West, I don’t see a lot of possibilities for trading within the crop of teams that made the playoffs this year in the Western Conference. I think that teams like Utah are going to be really reluctant to move guys…even guys with horrid contracts like Kirilenko…to other Western Conference contenders.

by Mister Naxal on May 5, 2008 4:26 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think

The Mavs will bring some of the following guys in on minimum deals:

Kareem Rush
Quinton Ross
Lorenzen Wright
Brian Skinner

And some of these guys by other means:

Any of the Golden Staters (Barnes, O’Bryant, Pietrus)
Childress
Keyon Dooling
Pargo (if he declines his option)
Ricky Davis

Do they make runs at restricted guys like:
Deng
Ofakor
Monta Ellis
Shaun Livingston
Calderon

I doubt it, seeing as they couldn’t really offer that much and most of those guys have a good role with their teams. My earlier argument with Adam notwithstanding, there is, I suppose, the possibility of a S&T.

If we’re going to be jumpstarting this offense, I would target guys like Calderon, Ellis, and any of the unrestricted guys I mentioned.

Also, I like Randolph Morris.

by brettgardner on May 5, 2008 6:47 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Quinton Ross,

we need his perimeter defense…

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 5, 2008 8:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's

Not great, but his defense is pretty good, his offensive game is erratic but effective and he’s from Dallas.

by brettgardner on May 5, 2008 8:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shaun Livingston

is he even healthy right now?

just got ownaged

by Longhorn on May 5, 2008 8:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Buy low.

But I doubt LA lets him go.

by brettgardner on May 5, 2008 9:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Josh Childress

EOM

"I hope it's a special dumb person hell so that I don’t have to meet up with you after I die."

- The D-tron

by Chase Irwin on May 6, 2008 2:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good luck NO

You get to try to go up 2-0 on the Spurs with Bavetta presiding.

by Brett Perryman on May 5, 2008 9:48 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

available Bucks

Hey guys, I wrote the aforementioned thing about Redd for Howard/Stack at BrewHoop (not my idea originally though).

Villanueva, Williams and Redd will all be very available this summer, especially now that Hammond/Skiles are in charge. The Bucks are going to be close to the luxury tax in 09/10 if they don’t shed salary which is part of the motivation for the Redd proposal. But I think Redd is more likely to stay than Villanueva or Williams just because his contract makes him so hard to move.

Bogut is probably the only untouchable, though I can’t see Sessions getting traded either. They will likely want to keep Yi Jianlian though there are some rumblings his agent may try to get him out of Milwaukee.

by Frank Madden on May 6, 2008 12:26 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

Don’t you think it would be beneficial to trade Redd and Gadzuric to Cleveland for Szczerbiak and Snow, both of whom have large expiring deals?

by brettgardner on May 6, 2008 12:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m not really hoping to open up usable cap space—with Bogut about to be extended and so many other bad deals that’s going to be really tough in the next couple years. So just salary-dumping Redd at this stage isn’t all that appealing to me. But solving the 09/10 luxury tax issue while getting a guy like Howard (who can actually be a valuable starter) would seem infinitely better than getting guys like Wally/Snow who we wouldn’t want to re-sign anyway.

by Frank Madden on May 6, 2008 1:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would add that I’d consider a Cavs offer involving Varejao, expiring deals and future 1sts. We had about $8 million in cap space last offseason and didn’t find any use for it, and before that we used our 2005 space on the Simmons signing, so even if you could shed a bunch of salary I’d just be wary of thinking that it would get us anything of value.

by Frank Madden on May 6, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really think

the Mavs should be run by a troika of Miles, HurlerHurley, and Shark.

"Before I leave, I once again condemn the despicable buffoonery of D.J. Cahill." - Huck

by DJCahill on May 6, 2008 2:31 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think you and I should run the team

Tandem GM’s.

I could go around the team offices saying the Mavs got Bavetta’d in the “Finals”, you could call me an idiot, whereupon I would reply that, no, you’re the one who is a big idiot, and then we could fist fight each other while Cuban watches and giggles.

I think it would work.

Certainly it would be more effective that the current leadership, who are the ones who decided to give away an unprotected number one in ‘10 as a throw-in in the Kidd deal.

"If we where [sic] gonna trade them Salty, I would want a helluva lot more than just Joba though." -lonestarJon

by thedirkatron on May 6, 2008 3:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm amused by...

the squables you two have at times.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 6, 2008 11:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sweet

I can come into the office early and try to trade off that soft Euro.

"Before I leave, I once again condemn the despicable buffoonery of D.J. Cahill." - Huck

by DJCahill on May 7, 2008 7:13 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How do you guys know all this shit?

It’s ridiculous. Just spouting this crazy stuff off about mid level exception, this and that.

Oh well, at least I’ll always know far more about football than you guys.

As far as the Mavs I think, just give the same guys a chance with a new coach, you might see a lot better results with no changes in personnel.

by Sharky on May 7, 2008 7:51 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well
Oh well, at least I’ll always know far more about football than you guys.

Not me.

Picking a random blog comment and wielding it as a club to bash "blogs" is like picking a random romance novel off an airport bookstore shelf and saying, "This book sucks. Fuck you, Tolstoy -- your medium is worthless!" - Ken Tremendous

by TheBZA on May 7, 2008 8:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Couple guys

We can draft this year:

JR Giddens
Shan Foster
Sonny Weems
Bill Walker (If he falls)
DeVon Hardin

It’s not totally hopeless.

by brettgardner on May 8, 2008 1:03 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Foster...

I want him..

Say your sorry to Ron Washington

by miles on May 8, 2008 4:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JR Giddens...

MWC beast. Guy is athletic as hell.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 9, 2008 2:11 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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