5/6/08 game day thread
by Adam J. Morris on May 6, 2008 8:00 PM CDT
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PrintTexas Rangers at Seattle Mariners, May 6, 2008 9:10 PM CDT
Okay, we're now dealing with a 2 game losing streak.
But not to worry...we have Sidney Ponson pitching tonight!
Go Rangers...
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The funny thing is....
Im actually really looking forward to watching Ponsoon. I like his assortment of pitches and when his pitches are really diving to the deck, he can make guys look foolish
slc, u here?
Boston is playing like crap. Sam Cassell needs to go back to LA….what a waste of space.
just got ownaged
I'm just saying
that I think it’s funny how we are so desperate for pitching that we look forward to watching Sidney Ponson pitching.
-Wakes
That lineup
should be able to score runs. When Hank comes back and Chris Davis comes up that seems to be a whole 1 through 9 that I enjoy looking at.
Am I wrong?
Ponson
Could anyone who saw his last start talk about his stuff? Was it that good or did he just get lucky?
Fire Ron Washington
He was pretty good.
kept his stuff down and had good control.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
He was good
Threw 108 pitches through 8 innings of work, 76 of which where strikes. Gave up 6 hits and walked two, but got two doubled play balls, and struck out 5.
The only run he allowed came on a broken bat bloop single.
by LSJ on May 6, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Hamilton
has dropped from 336/386/582 to 300/347/531 in his last 5 games. Lets hope he can get back to his ways tonight.
It has probably just been a simple evening out.
Does anyone else have FSN Kansas City
on their set???
I’ve got the Royals and the Angels but no Rangers. anyone else in that predictament?
Thanks
Yeah, that’s weird.
Of course, he is no-hitting the Twins, though – not all that hard to shut that offense down if you can get Mauer and Morneau out.
by LSJ on May 6, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Lets see here...
Well, the Twins probably have the better OF offense, but save for Morneau their INF sucks. We’re without Blalock right now, but I’d still rather have our offense.
by LSJ on May 6, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Why...
Why has there been a rash of comercials for ED medicine during the late night Ranger games? Have we been that bad that its affecting our manhood?
On that note….
Don't most people
watch Ranger games sitting in a old-fashioned bathtub overlooking the Pacific Ocean?
err...
did Kins touch first base?
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Random thoughts...
I am counting on you posters, and Ponson, and Hammy to keep this game in check tonight.
Have fun!!!
Ibanez will be a coach/manager, based on the pre-game interview.
Ok, off to the other room to watch Iron Man.
Go Rangers!
Peace
Hehe-Keens w/the 2b!!!
...it's the weekend, so why the hell not?
On the Seattle feed, it showed the AL RBI leaders
Ortiz has 26… where did that come from? Last I saw he was hitting like .150…
he had like
11 or 13 against us in that 3 game series
that got him going pretty good
by blueballlefty on May 6, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
It was eternal.
I was cleaning up after dinner, so the game was in the background, but it certainly lasted forever.
I'm surprised he couldn't get two on that.
Or at least the runner at home.
Not that it bothers me, of course.
You know whats funny
Right now Jason Botts probably = Ritche Sexson.
by LSJ on May 6, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
The angle in Seattle made that look like it was headed out.
I’d prefer some hits to some sacrifices, but at least we’re getting runs.
Okay let's go here.
we need at LEAST 3 runs in this inning.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions
+1 so true.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
His patience after just coming to the majors is amazing.
If he gets significant play this year, I’ll be interested to see who PECOTA compares him to.
He has the 2-3-4 hitters in the Twins lineup
Harris, Mauer, Morneau. Three tough outs.
by LSJ on May 6, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
depends on the game situation.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
haah I watched one pitch of the Floyd game.
and Mauer doubles.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply actions
i really like Laird
but i’m kinda rooting for Salty he just looks like a badass baseball player out there kinda like Botts
by blueballlefty on May 6, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Man we needed to get more out of that.
I guess there’s a reason we aren’t very good right now.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 9:36 PM CDT reply actions
2 runs on 1 hit
Danks, Volquez, Galarraga and Young are GONE! GET OVER IT! Endless whining will not bring them back!
i'll take
two runs to start off every game(ecspecially when its ponsowned! time for the mariners)
by blueballlefty on May 6, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
sure, me too.
But a good team would have scored 4 or 5.. With our bullpen we need every single run we can get and then some.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Batista won't get out of the 4th
At that rate 44 pitches in the 1st.
"My death certificate will probably say: 'Cause of Death: World Series.'" Jamey Newberg
how
a carefull at bat to ichiro and a ground ball that just barely found a hole?
by blueballlefty on May 6, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll take it
He’s not the first guy to walk Ichiro. And the pitch that Lopez hit was a pretty good pitch.
by robert_d_wilfong on May 6, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
and looked
like he stepped back into it but i guess it doesnt matter now
by blueballlefty on May 6, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Ichiro Suzuki in the First Inning
Since someone asked, decided to look it up.
Career: .356 OBP
2007: .370
2008: .333
Ichiro didn't look fast that time.
a good throw beats him EASILY
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 9:44 PM CDT reply actions
Good call
to whoever said the old ponson showed up. You and Dave Niehaus must agree alot
Hey, give me a break
I didn’t see what happened, made a stupid post based on two baserunners. It’s gameday thread, dude… calm down.
by LSJ on May 6, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Im joking man
I’m not a dick, and i know i don’t know it all. It’s all in good fun man
haha
its funny when you make a mistake on here isnt it
by blueballlefty on May 6, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Vasquez needs to work him here.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 9:47 PM CDT reply actions
That train
only goes off when we are batting…and it clearly didn’t affect Ramon
Don't they always have one come by in the early innings?
It’s almost like they have it scheduled that way.
by LSJ on May 6, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
no
just a productive AB.. make SURE the runner is at third after the AB no matter what.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't like it at all.
just try and hit something to the right side- hell Kinsler isn’t a slouch, he just might get a hit.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
gameday showed
that pitch to be belt high and over the middle of the plate.
Looked like something he should drive.
Danks, Volquez, Galarraga and Young are GONE! GET OVER IT! Endless whining will not bring them back!
if you are going to bunt for a hit...
...you can’t change your mind if you see it is a pitch you can drive…
by Adam J. Morris on May 6, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
don't disagree
I am only following on gameday so I did not hear it or see it as well. Just looked like a possible mistake pitch.
Danks, Volquez, Galarraga and Young are GONE! GET OVER IT! Endless whining will not bring them back!
yeah looked that way
If it would have been a called sacrifice he wouldn’t have pushed it and started running so hard
SERIOUSLY
we are up by two in the second inning with a guy who just threw 44 pitches and we F’ing bunt here? WTF
here we go again
a struggling pitcher… and we’re bunting and giving away outs…
this pisses me off…
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
I think he was bunting for a hit
knowing that if he drew sexson far enough off of first he would have been safe easily. It would have been a sacrifice either way so why not?
I think...
...he was bunting for a hit…
That didn’t look like a sac bunt try.
by Adam J. Morris on May 6, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
doesnt matter
what he was doing he still gave up 4 or 5 pitches to a tired guy and should have been swinging
by blueballlefty on May 6, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
and it pretty much guaranteed a run
it didn’t look like a called sac bunt. But given the results its fine by me. Seriously whether a guy has 65-68 pitches after 2 innings doesn’t make that big a difference
i know thats not the objective
but a guy that tired likely going to give a pitch to hit it was a poor decision and not good baseBALL
by blueballlefty on May 6, 2008 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
the object of the game
is to score more runs than the other team, not knock the opposing pitcher out of the game in the 2nd or 3rd inning because of a high pitch count
That fact is why...
I don’t like a bunt there.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
It makes it tough to have crooked numbers on the board..
when you bunt so much.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 9:51 PM CDT reply actions
Whether that was a bunt for a hit or not
I do not like the fact that Ron Washington has seeded this team with the idea that bunting with a runner on second and nobody out in the 2nd inning is good baseball.
yeah youre right
seeding his team with the idea that scoring more runs than your opponent is the wrong message.
Runner on second, nobody out, 2nd inning
Is not a bunt situation.
by LSJ on May 6, 2008 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
ok
so what if kinsler grounds out to 3rd base right there and the runner doesn’t move up? Youngs sac fly moves him to 3rd and Hammy strikes out and we only have 2 on the board instead of 3. The object is scoring runs. Whether its a 400 ft home run or a sac bunt followed by a sac fly. They mean the same. Give it a rest man
And what if Kinsler doubles?
Or homers? Seriously, it’s the top of the order. You shouldn’t be afraid to let the top of your order swing the bat.
by LSJ on May 6, 2008 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Like I said
It didn’t look like a called sac bunt there. Who knows what would have happened. Instead of bitching about a sac bunt why don’t you appreciate the fact that we gave Ponson an extra run of support.
Getting the run was fine
I’m just saying I do not like the fact that Ron’s philosophy has given the top of the order the idea to bunt in that situation. It would be different if it was late in the game, or if that had been Ramon Vazquez, but that was Ian Kinsler, and that was the second inning.
Kinsler should not be pulling Gerald Laird moves by bunting for hits, his bat has more potential than that.
I got no problem with the idea of manufacturing runs,
but when you got a pitcher on the ropes, i would prefer to swing away and attempt to get to the pen.
when you bunt there
you absolutely take a big inning out of the equation,
by bunting there you resign yourself to scoring 1 run when,
the possibility of scoring 3 or 4 presents itself so in the
end my conclusion bigsteve is YOUR WRONG!
by blueballlefty on May 6, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
No
the big inning is still a possibility. You have 2,3,4 coming up who can generate offense. If we were down by 3 or 4 runs or had been scoring a bunch or runs lately then yeah mayeb I could see your point. But we haven’t. A lot of 2,3,4 run games, a guy on the mound who, as good as he has been so far, you don’t really know what he will give you. So I don’t mind capitalizing a leadoff double even if it means giving up 1 out in the 2nd inning. If the pitcher really is that tired we will have other chances to get a big inning.
Hamilton the hunter
Josh Hamilton does not hunt because the word hunting infers the probability of failure.
Josh Hamilton goes killing.
hha I like that.
but not the best timing for it.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Well Lewin was talking
about how Josh reads “Field and Stream” as Josh was striking out. Reminded me of one of the Chuck Norris lines
it grows on me
more each time i watch it
by texrangers31 on May 6, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Warran Wallace
I wonder if they gave him his own show if it would be any better than Cavemen… couldn’t be any worse, now that I think about it
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
He can team up with Jason Krause...
And they can have one show, that I’d avoid at all costs.
by Adam J. Morris on May 6, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I am good with that one :)
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
he's just not a very animated kinda guy
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
YES!
this is how Murph does it.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 10:06 PM CDT reply actions
no no
that just doesn’t fit his personality…
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Keep this up..
It would suck if they all stop working him now and start getting undisciplined.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 10:07 PM CDT reply actions
David Murphy for ROY!
Don’t talk to me about Longoria and Elsbury! I’m allowing myself some homerism.
Eva plays baseball?
haha wow I wonder if she can turn the double play..
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Going in to tonight, Ellsbury has nearly double the VORP of Murphy.
He’s also definitely contributing more defensively, without even looking up by exactly how much.
So, yeah, it’s pretty biased to say Murph. Oh well, I don’t really care.
How much of a boner does Josh have for Bill from West Seattle?
a) Ugly, fat whore level
b) Ugly stripper level
c) Girl next door level
d) Perfect 10 model level
Stars in a Texas Night Sky, a Dallas Stars blog from a fan's perspective.
the fact that i havent watched a game in seattle this year
and know who you are talking about makes it at least B
Sweet
Batista… 2.1 IP, 5R, 5ER, 3H, 6BB, 85 pitches… and he’s done.
I just hope Baek doesn’t dominate the Rangers now.
I refuse to watch american poker even.
I still am stunned that it is on tv.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Cheap programming...
that’s why it’s all over the tv dial.
Stars in a Texas Night Sky, a Dallas Stars blog from a fan's perspective.
I watch poker
not because it is exciting or anything, but I play a lot of poker and I enjoy seeing the different situations and how the pros handle them…
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
I used to think that
But once I got laid, I stopped watching Showtime late at night and found out that poker is the only thing on at 2:00AM. Mildly entertaining.
I'm okay
with watching a little poker. I’m just wondering why FSN shows Australian poker? Not enough poker in North America? Are Australians superior poker players? Seem like a long way to go for poker.
by robert_d_wilfong on May 6, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
it's an international poker tourney that happens to be in Australia
a lot of American players are in it…
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Australian...poker players
nevermind they don’t even watch that
Vinnie's orgasmic rice patties?
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
it's how Chekov says Warp in Star Trek
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
what's even funnier is that he pronounces Vorp as Warp...
vere are your nuclear wessles?
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Value Over Replacement Player
It’s how many runs a player has contributed on offense above what, basically, a scrub at his postion would.
Baseball Prospectus can give you more on the nitty gritty. Someone posted a link.
my new all time favorite Josh line:
“And the mariners have to hope that Cha Seung Baek is korean for Josh Rupe”
hahah that is bringing it very strong.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
not up 5
You can’t take runs for granted especially early in the game. Now that we do have a 5 run lead you don’t necessarily need to worry about it as much
salty
doesnt it seem like salty swingin’ for the fences everytime?
Yeah
He seems to be overswinging right now. I don’t know whether it’s the excitement of being in the majors, or him trying to compete with Gerald Laird, but the fact that he is not getting everyday AB’s seems to be hurting him.
You have now exceeded apologist status
by robert_d_wilfong on May 6, 2008 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
You can't deny
That not getting every day AB’s is not good for Salty. At the rate this platoon bullshit is going, I’m almost sorry Salty got called up. He needs to play every day.
Let's bust this WIDE open.
how about it?
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 10:17 PM CDT reply actions
Yay!
Now we’re up 7-0 in the third inning… I’d settle for a 7-3 win tonight. Payback for last night. :D
final score prediction???
I will go with 16-4.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
HAY GUYZ VOLQUEZ IS DOING GR8
Seriously though. That was impressive.
Damn, dude! That was HUGE
The mlb.tv scoreboard updated before the video feed showed it… I thought it was a mistake at first.
Rojas quote:
“Holy COW, I have never seen a ball go that far…”
JEBUS ON A POGO STICK!!!
That’s the best home run I’ve ever seen. It was just beautiful!!!!!!!!!!
Who needs Tex when you have Hamilton?
one
of the most spectatular home runs i’ve ever seen
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
MURPH
50/50 chance that never see’s sports center
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
Well I can say sayonnara on this one and feel ok.
Nice job Rangers.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 10:23 PM CDT reply actions
Awesome picture
Seeing Hammy, Kinsler, and Murph run in together joking around and you know they will be doing that for the next several years together
Imagine those guys..
teamed up with some good pitching. haha
(oh wait, this is the Rangers… never mind)
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Imagine them teamed up with Volquez!!!!!
Come on guys! STUPID TRADE! LOLZZZZZZ! :) :) :) :) :) :) A/S/L everyone!
Stars in a Texas Night Sky, a Dallas Stars blog from a fan's perspective.
It was far from a stupid trade.
Slightly below a wash, but as much as I love Hamilton, I’m almost as high on Volquez and think this franchise would benifit more from a 24 year old pitcher than a 27 year old outfielder.
Well.. how good would Volquez..
have to have been to approximate what Ham has already done?
6-0 with 1.70 era and two shutouts? I love the trade thus far!
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
This year?
I have very little doubt Hammilton will be worth more this year. I’m not really concerned about this year.
That said, going in to tonight:
Edinson Volquez Pitching VORP: 16.3
Josh Hamilton VORP: 10.7
So, thus far, Volquez has probably contributed more.
liked to see boggs do something
just because i want to see him stay on the team
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
who
would mayberry replace in the outfield.
Byrd?
cattlanato?
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
giving Catt the gate would be fine with me.
I don’t see the sense in a declining veteran on a team that is not going to make the playoffs.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...
You could hold onto him in July, and trade him then.
Then you at least don’t have to pay the roughly $8 million you’d owe if you released him.
Just releasing Cat doesn’t really make much sense.
by Adam J. Morris on May 6, 2008 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah- I don't know the financial rules.
But would anyone want him in a trade? I don’t really know what he brings to the table at this stage.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he would be somewhat valuable
He can play a lot of positions and he isn’t a bad baseball player.
if we could get much of anything for him..
wow, I am ALL for it.. maybe another body for the bullpen.
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
well,
for one, he is an incredibly good pinch-hitter with a career line of .285/.372/.413 in 207 PAs. That’s a valuable skill, especially in the NL.
by Randy Richardson on May 6, 2008 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah.
do you think there would be room for him and boggs.?
or would be forced to pick one of them
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
makes sense
kinda ironic, i saw in the newberg report about boggs it said, (im paraphrasing) “He’s gotten better as hes gained more plate disicipline and his walk rates have increased” but since he’s struck out looking twice in the past two games, at some point shouldn’t you just let loose and swing away?
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
I think I would take
his production so far with a couple of strike outs looking to a free swinger.
Unless the striking out looking becomes a trend, I like what I’ve seen so far from Boggs.
oh yeah
i totally agree, hes surpassed my expectations.
and im sure as he gains more major league experience then he will get a better feel for the strike zone and umpires and general.
just hate to those backwards k’s
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
The Mariners announcers were saying that if Seattle doesn't score much, Baek might stay out the rest of the game to save the bullpen
Rangers need to keep taking pitches just to fuxx0r Seattle’s bullpen for the next few games.
especially since we play them 2 more this series!
Hey, it could be worse...
by HighPlainsGrifter on May 6, 2008 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
First 7000 kids get a Michael Young poster
first 7000 adult males get a Six Shooter poster…
I’d get tickets for that one.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ya know
Ponson used to be an opening day starter. I guess what he is doing right now isn’t totally surprising.
If you get the early 2000's
version of Millwood, Ponson and Padilla you have a really tough top three
Haven't seen any boneheaded
defensive plays so far in this game. That is nice to see.
(knock on wood)
does anybody know
any good message boards.?
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
no
i love this site and i check it daily (if not more) but im still curious about whats out there
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
Hillman
Is it any wonder that they have trouble scoring runs when they have a guy with a .267 OBP (Gathright) leading off?
At least Pena didn’t start so they avoided the 9 and 1 automatic consecutive outs.
by Randy Richardson on May 6, 2008 10:57 PM CDT reply actions
Good old Adam Eaton
Walks Randy Johnson on 4 pitches with the bases loaded:
http://www.baseballmusings.com/archives/026444.php
Randy Johnson must have the biggest strike zone in the league.
Ponson
I see his trade value increasing with every out
pretty exciting for a guy I didn’t expect too much from.
guess that’s what happens though when you sign these wash-out veterans…
buy ‘em for cheap and flip ‘em while they’re hot.
i guess he’s got to hit a couple when you sign as many as he did
i like JD’s strategy
I don't mean to rain
on anyone’s parade, but let’s see some more starts before we get too excited. Ponson’s three starts are against MIN, KCR, and SEA, probably the three weakest offenses in the AL.
by Randy Richardson on May 6, 2008 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Ichiro out
hurt or just getting Bloomquist some playing time…?
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
WOW
I see the Rangers going deeper in the playoffs this year than the Stars. j/k
"My death certificate will probably say: 'Cause of Death: World Series.'" Jamey Newberg
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