6/1/08 game day thread
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 1, 2008 1:01 PM CDT
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Scott Feldman v. Greg Smith...
Go Rangers...
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Today the Rangers complete the sweep
"My death certificate will probably say: 'Cause of Death: World Series.'" Jamey Newberg
This is the third time Scott Feldman and Greg Smith have faced of this year
Deja vu, anyone?
A Lonestar in California - 2.0
"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven
seriously
give murph a day off please, these lefties are killing him and boggs has a 900 something ops so far against them.
Gerald Laird is my hero.
Probably
I’d lean towards sitting Murphy against the majority of lefties.
But it isn’t up to me.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 1, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope
But that should tell you something about your buddy Ron Wash. He no speaky statistics.
A Lonestar in California - 2.0
"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven
by LSJ on Jun 1, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
W% since April 24th: .647
Intradivisional records
AL WEST W L
TEX 14 9
LAA 8 7
OAK 6 11
SEA 10 11
Suck It!
...it's the weekend, so why the hell not?
Neither of those things
Mean Ron Washington is a good manager. Look at the White Sox – they’re leading the AL Central with Ozzie freaking Guillen.
A Lonestar in California - 2.0
"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven
by LSJ on Jun 1, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
And your point is????
Doc Rivers is in the NBA Finals. Is he a good coach?
Bob Brenly won a World Series. Was he a good manager?
No and no.
I was deleted!
For that, I give myself a “rec”.
...it's the weekend, so why the hell not?
by Rodney on Jun 1, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
projected playoff percentages
which is useless, but worth a look
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/ps_oddspec.php
7%! so you are saying theres a chance!
I remember in 05 or whenever we were in first for a while that thing had us at 75% pretty far into the season.
Gerald Laird is my hero.
Is the game not on directv?
anyone else with the baseball package not seeing the channel the game is on?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Directv
Can’t find it either. 667 says it is blacked out on that channel and it is also not viewable on any other channels.
Such crap.
Unfortunately, No it's not
Not here in NC anyways. You know, because Oakland and Dallas are so close to NC that they had to black it out.
There’s a host of other games on in my MLB package that I GET to watch.
"Winds blowing in from right field at 10-15 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 90."
Over/Under For HR’s=4?
So...why is John Hart still being paid?
It just depends on how many Josh Hamilton is in the mood for
A Lonestar in California - 2.0
"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven
by LSJ on Jun 1, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty weak lineup
but it is time to drum up some trade interest in Byrd and Laird.
When we acquired Murphy, my first instinct was that he could platoon with Boggs, with Boggs playing against LHP. Now that they have both (somewhat) established themselves, it is Boggs we sit against lefties.
Odd.
FANTASY BASEBALL HELP!!!!
Seriously, putting the bias aside, should I start Greg Smith today? I have about 15 minutes to decide.
What are your other options?
A Lonestar in California - 2.0
"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven
by LSJ on Jun 1, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Well he is on my roster
I can choose to start him or not. It is a roto league, not a head to head so I don’t have to start him but Smith has been money this year…
Well, he tossed 6.2 scoreless innings his last time out...
7 innings of 2-run ball the time before that… finnesse lefties usually puzzle us… bias aside, I’d say starting him makes a lot of sense.
A Lonestar in California - 2.0
"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven
by LSJ on Jun 1, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
We didn't exactly pound him the time we beat him
4 runs in 6 innings was all we got, and some of that came on a big homer. We kinda had to squeak past him that time, my guess is, it’ll be the same today.
A Lonestar in California - 2.0
"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven
by LSJ on Jun 1, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, Brandon Boggs drove in 3 of the 4 runs that day
And he’s not in the lineup today.
A Lonestar in California - 2.0
"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven
by LSJ on Jun 1, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
We haven't seen a walk in two days
It’s been awfully nice.
A Lonestar in California - 2.0
"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven
by LSJ on Jun 1, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah...
you can tell that it’s not natural widescreen, because the top bar would have a lot of extra room on the sides.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
TAG: "Most minor leaguers don't make it to the bigs without being able to hit a FB"
That’s what I thought, except then you see Botts in the bigs
Rare Gnats Sex
Well...
Not if you have to have spots for B-Mac, Hurley and Harrison.
A Lonestar in California - 2.0
"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven
by LSJ on Jun 1, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
You'd like to hope not
But you’re probably right.
Though I have a hard time seeing next season’s rotation bringing back more than 2 of these guys.
I think one of Padilla/Millwood will be gone, BMac will return, and I’m hoping that Harrison/Hurley will combine with a magical high-K arm brought through trade.
I don't know
I just sure hope they don’t bring Ponson back.
A Lonestar in California - 2.0
"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven
by LSJ on Jun 1, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Sweet first inning for Feldman
I could go for 6 or 7 more innings like that.
A Lonestar in California - 2.0
"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven
Exceedingly
He might even earn my respect again if he does.
A Lonestar in California - 2.0
"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven
by LSJ on Jun 1, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
He got a RBI last night, actually
A Lonestar in California - 2.0
"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven
by LSJ on Jun 1, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...yeh.
But you know what I mean. Lately it seems as if every time there are RISP he doesn’t come through. I don’t know where to look to get the numbers to back myself up though.
by Brandon Worley on Jun 1, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
His avg with RISP is only in the .260's
So there you go.
A Lonestar in California - 2.0
"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven
by LSJ on Jun 1, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
this year yeah
but historically he has been way better with runners on than not,.
Gerald Laird is my hero.
Oh definitely.
I’m a huge MY fan. That’s why I was a bit surprised when I came on here and he was getting the ribbing he does.
by Brandon Worley on Jun 1, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
i'll be surprised
if he has success against greg smith. he’s exactly the type of pitcher that he would be bad against
Rare Gnats Sex
OC TO A's: I'M GONNA PASS U DA GRAVY WHEN U AXE ME 4 IT,
son.
"For the record, I did not and do not like the Volquez trade, even though Hamilton is awesome and our best player and I think he’s going to be one of the best players in baseball." philikid3
these days v lefties
are the days where bradley needs to step up. snap out of the mini slump boardgame. double?
Gerald Laird is my hero.
man, i wanted to call for the homerun
but i thought it was just too greedy.
Gerald Laird is my hero.
Board Game!!
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
Board Game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Take that Greg Smith.
Who was it that started him for their fantasy team today? Oops
bradley
might be having the most underrated season in rangers history because of hamilton
Rare Gnats Sex
Are the minor league games on TV in Dallas?
by Brandon Worley on Jun 1, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
dual recording dvr wins all
thanks for the notice, i shall be bringing that up immediatelt
Gerald Laird is my hero.
Makes me wish I was in Dallas even more.
As if I needed another reason.
by Brandon Worley on Jun 1, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
kind of fitting really
since he may replace bradley next year.
sweet looking hr.
Gerald Laird is my hero.
Okay, I've got to run...
Glad I stuck around long enough to see that. Just in case I don’t make it back before the game is over, GO RANGERS!!!!
A Lonestar in California - 2.0
"I LOVE to fart" - Bert Blyleven
milton bradley
player of the month of june.
http://www.buchanan4pres2008.org/
NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER
That you don't need to
spend a lot of time thinking about him
by Brett Perryman on Jun 1, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
The Natural from Pizza Hut
Hammy needs to sue them for copyright infringement.
...it's the weekend, so why the hell not?
Hate to bring it back up but,
Why is Murphy in the lineup instead of Boggs. Lewin just said that lefties are hitting .150 off this guy. I love Murphy, but this would of been a great day to get his day off.
He is
not a good “manager” but a really really good coach and a guy who players respect and want to play for.
And
given how Boggs has been hitting as of late, it really would make more sense for him to get in the game and give Murphy a day off. Its not like Murphy is losing his starting spot, but a rookie getting a day off every now and then isn’t a bad thing.
The Cal League is pitcher-friendly?
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jun 1, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah
Full disclosure, I thought Lancaster was Cal League. This whole time.
I’m Hightower, and I’m a Porcelloholic.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jun 1, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I need a fact-checker today
Earlier said the Beavan homer was a 2-run shot, forgot Hurley’s been on a longer hot streak, and now the FSL. Wheels off.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jun 1, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
That's going pretty far
to downplay his remarkable progress.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 1, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
he's been good
but he hasn’t done anything to make me regret not giving him a gigantic bonus and a guaranteed spot on the 40 man roster.
Can you list a few guys
who have been as good as he has making their pitching debut in HA directly out of HS? I can’t come up with many, and unlike the typical aberration (who is more about polish than talent) we know his stuff is lights out.
Whether you want to couch it as regret or not, he is one of the couple best pitching prospects in baseball, and I would LOVE to have overpaid him and have him on our 40.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 1, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Three years from now
the refrain will be, “no one could have known he would be that good.”
by Brett Perryman on Jun 1, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
It has nothing to do with me
Saying that is like saying “I’ll take Taylor Teagarden over Matt Wieters.” Is there some outside chance that Teagarden could be better than Wieters? Yes. How would a poll of informed opinions look in each case? about 95% the other guy. This is homerism.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 1, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I was referring more
To the “Three years from now the refrain will be, ‘no one could have known he would be that good.’”
You could very well be right, but to present your argument in such irrefutable terms is more than a little overbearing.
Also, not that I have any particular horse in the race (though of course I have a definite hope), I don’t think the difference is as dramatic as you have presented it.
For what it's worth
I don’t have a horse here either. I’m not mad at the Rangers for not taking the risk. But that’s partly because I didn’t realize that Porcello was this good. And in hindsight I wish they had. Again though, I’m not arguing this because I’m pissed that they didn’t roll the dice.
As far as the three years thing, that’s in reference to our Weaver discussion in the other thread. It’s the easy way to avoid admitting that you were wrong in the first place.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 1, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Just a question
As I don’t have the inclination to check out the thread you referenced:
Is that last paragraph referring to players with signability concerns? Otherwise, I’m not sure what other reason there could be that you don’t draft a guy.
Yes
My point there was that if a Hosmer or Crow or Alvarez started to fall, I didn’t see a lot of reason to think that the Rangers would be the team to stop it – mostly because I don’t think that any of the three will quite make it to 11, but also because the Rangers do not have a recent track record of picking off those guys. My citations are Weaver and Drew from 2004, Hochevar from 2005, Chamberlain from 2006 and Porcello from 2007. My point wasn’t that they are idiots for not doing it, just that they haven’t, and I don’t see what would be different about this year.
Each of those cases involved signability issues combined with outlandish demands.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 1, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh and
Meant to say, I can agree to somewhat disagree with someone who says that the risk still looks to great to them. But where I’m blown away is when someone a) says that what he’s done so far is not particularly impressive, and b) claims that they would take EITHER of our first rounders over him.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 1, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Just to clarify
I think what he’s done is impressive, but when you look at how great he is expected to be by some and the backlash the Rangers took for not drafting him, I think he has to start striking out a lot more batters before they can rightfully start saying “I told you we should have drafted him!”
What was his signing bonus
7 million or so and a guaranteed spot on the 40 man roster vs. a guy who has a lot of talent himself and is just as young. Both Beaven and Main are great enough talents to make me never regret not taking that enormous risk with Porcello.
hopefully
hopefully its not “we got to make a decision on this 22 year old because he is out of options and has only a handful of ML innings”
If the Tigers are in rebuilding mode it won’t matter because they can afford to keep him but if they are a contending team it will be a decision they will have a hard time making.
In three years we look to be a contending team and I wouldn’t want to be in that position. Look at how we were this year with Cruz, Botts, and Tejeda. And none of those guys are anywhere near the talent Porcello is and we are in a rebuilding year.
After his last start, he’s on a ‘ric roll.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jun 1, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
This game's not on MLB Extra Innings
so I’m watching Minny-NYY, and Nick Blakcburn just got trucked in the face by a Bobby Abreu line drive. I don’t know if I’ve seen someone get hit like that before, hope he’s okay.
The 40 trumps all!!!
it was harder to hit .260 in a 15 game hitting streak
308 doesnt sound so bad.
Gerald Laird is my hero.
He didnt
its just…they called it a strike.
Human element, gotta remove it.
by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 1, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Ya he did
Just the pitches before it were not strikes either
by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 1, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
The 3 high school
players that made the jump from high school straight to the Majors.
Not the only black poster on LSB.
Walking people
Is for posers or fake gangstas.
BLING BLING.
by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 1, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
his name, or his looks?
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
thats exactly what I was gonna say
We need more runs.
by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 1, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
manager quote of the day
“That’s a good play,” Cooper said of Berkman’s decision to bunt with the third baseman playing him deep. “That’s a baseball player’s play. It’s a nice job. We need baserunners. If you hit a ball out of a ballpark, I call them rally-killers when you get down like that. We need to keep a rally going, and that was a nice play to me.”
-Cecil Cooper, astros manager
Gerald Laird is my hero.
Shit
The downtown square-including the clocktower-from Back to the Future was destroyed in that fire at Universal.
That makes me sad.
i'm guessing
that the value of my flux capacitor just went up.
http://www.buchanan4pres2008.org/
NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER
you can't be too disappointed
with how he is hitting the ball.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
Ray's attendance yesterday
Holy crap, josh was right about the rays having a big crowd yesterday. 36,000 (compared to 14,900, the night before).
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
They mentioned on the radio yesterday
that there was some major promotion. A concert of some sort is what I believe they said. It’s still a good crowd though.
oh, good call...
I think they had Trace Adkins there.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
but in the end...
that was a really good investment on the part of the Rays. They got a big crowd out to the game, and showed the crowd that they can win a close game. That should get the interest of quite a few of those people that came out for the concert.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
Score more runs than the other team baby
PREACH IT THEN TEACH IT
by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 1, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Just got in to watch the game on my DTV
I live in Tampa – Why am I not finding it???
Ya....That's Real Mature.
well it did
maybe now the offense will try to score again
I really hate the A's
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
Well color me smarter now...
I had been thinking that no runs counted during a play when the third out was made… now I know better. Thanks.
The difference is that the batter reached safely (at least initially)
Say there is a guy on third, and two outs. If the batter grounds to deep short, and the guy on third crosses home before the out is made at first, the run won’t count.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
force out vs tag out
If the last out of the inning is on a tag play then any runs that score prior to the tag being applied count. If the last out is a force then no runs count.
I was going to blame it all on
The fact that I just started paying attention to baseball last season!
I hate having to explain
some of the intricacies to my girlfriend, but she does her best to humor me.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
haha...
i meant that to say, its unfair to her that the game is so complicated and it can be confusing just to watch sometimes.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
he crossed before the last out was called.
once the batter reached safely, the run can be counted. That’s scored an RBI single.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
regardless of where he was aiming...
it wasn’t going to be in front of the runner going to home.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
box score shows
4 R, 3 ER
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
He gets killed
By being a shitty pitcher
by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 1, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
He's done a pretty admirable job
considering how many different starters we’ve had to go to this year.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
Beaven
seems to have settled down quite a bit after that rough 2nd inning. Over 5 IP now and still only has those 2 ER against him.
Hurley
Also sets them down in the 6th.
Just gives up a walk.
by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 1, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Byrd's
been looking a lot better in CF this season than he did last year. And good, efficient inning by Feldman. Time for the Rangers to give him the W he’s earned today.
call one in for Ian here.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
You know I was thinking the same thing.
He definitely takes a full step towards home. But I guess if you can ride that line and get away with, all the more power to you.
by Brandon Worley on Jun 1, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
the rule for a lefty...
if his front leg (kick leg), crosses the rubber, he has to throw the pitch… right?
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
Hamilton
coming up with 2 men on base and Smith is at 85 pitches. Hamilton has to come through right here. Its just too good of an opportunity for him to not do it.
only against lefties
still sucks though. nobody can cover a strike zone that big. and feldman isn’t getting that call as a righty
Rare Gnats Sex
grounder through the middle
Kinsler scored and Young to third. No outs and now a man on 1st and 3rd for Bradley. Great job by Hamilton!
Hambone is pure greatness
That is all
"My death certificate will probably say: 'Cause of Death: World Series.'" Jamey Newberg
True, true very true
"My death certificate will probably say: 'Cause of Death: World Series.'" Jamey Newberg
Tie game!!!
Bradley pulls a Hamilton and hits Young in from third on another hit down the middle of the IF.
Top of the order is
going great right now. They just never give up. Gotta love the Texas Greers!
"My death certificate will probably say: 'Cause of Death: World Series.'" Jamey Newberg
And the Rangers take the lead!!!
3 straight groundballs and they all find their way through the IF. I love being on this end of that situation.
Lol Im voting again.
Using my parents’ email.
by Brandon Worley on Jun 1, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I did 25 on my own already.
It wasn’t until after 10 votes or so, that I realized I should have been writing Murphy in as the 3rd OF.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
hah...
referring to the sign on the outfield wall as Mnt. Rushmore. Good stuff. Make room for Murph!
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
Murphinator!!
"My death certificate will probably say: 'Cause of Death: World Series.'" Jamey Newberg
man
i said it up thread, if the lefties did anything against smith i’d be impressed.
considering Smith has been even better in the stretch, I am very impressed with those singles.
Rare Gnats Sex
haha...
was i the only one laughing at Buck eating dirt on that one?
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
wild pitch/passed ball
as everyone moves up a base and the score is no 6-4 with 1 out and runners on 2nd and 3rd. No real DP chance anymore which is very, very good news
Murphy safe at home
on a Cat ground ball. It was close, but Murphy slid in there and since there was no force out, Suzuki had to tag him. Cat of course safe at first base.
NICE!
no body out!
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
I love aggressive base running
Murphy might have still scored if they threw to 1st base to get Cat out, but him sprinting home allowed for Cat to be safe at 1st and to get that run in.
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