6/12/08 game day thread 2
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 12, 2008 2:25 PM CDT
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let's fill this one up so that we get the third one up in the 7th
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
How does Hurley look?
See he’s given up 2 bombs already….. Only at 59 pitches though.
Not the only black poster on LSB.
4 hits, 1 hit batsman, 0 walks in 5 ip.
nothing wrong with that.
unfortunately 2 of the hits happened to be HRs on poor pitches.
some good, some bad. theres reason for optimism.
Bring up Justin Smoak
Mixed bag
He’s grooving a lot of pitches, and he’s gotten away with a few since this is the Royals. But his stuff looks pretty decent, he just needs to keep it outta the middle of the plate.
He's grooving a lot of fastballs
but has good movement and velocity.
by JimCrankshaft on Jun 12, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Hamilton's been pulling off the outside pitches lately.
needs to get back to the Hammy of yestermonth and start driving those pitches to left center.
Rally Turtles...
Have helped us all year…then they dont a few times and you give up on them. When the turtles are in a slump, you stay behind them. Hamilton is in a slump, do you want to ban him too? Viva la pictures!!!
it was a KC only rule =)
Im the creator of rally turtles! Of course i support them hehe.
But yeah, obviously its all just for fun. Perhaps something changed…. we will see in the 6th.
Bring up Justin Smoak
FSSW
...gun had hurley @ 94 on the gun last inning…
i will say, he’s sweating like crazy out there…
To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball
yeah he's taking Mathis' spot in the rotation.
Mathis goes to the pen.
by JimCrankshaft on Jun 12, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
rupe has been solid lately
but i guess hes a candidate.. will be interesting to see.
Bring up Justin Smoak
I don't know.
I thought it was just a haze from the humidity or something.
by The Best Micah on Jun 12, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
just got here
really excited i dont have work and i can see the hurlers debut.
does anyone really hate bill land
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
I saw that last night
JOsh said it was mist blowing in from the fountains
I guess it was the beatings made me wise. But I'm not about to give thanks, or apologize.
no i see it too. but i think its just that camera angle
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
Watching hurley
i can see a very danks like progression. Rough this year, turning into a #2 type guy next year.
Bring up Justin Smoak
i think his k rate was like 8.5 in the minors
isnt that usually turn out as like 7 in the majors? 3 in 5 sounds about right.
Bring up Justin Smoak
Ohh boy, I love that slider
Wicked. That was a good inning, he pretty much kept everything out of the middle of the plate. Very nice.
Through five
Hurley – 77 Pitches, 5hits, 3 K’s, 0 BB’s
Ground outs – 1
Fly Outs – 11 ouch
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still... ...live by it... die by it...
To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball
yeah. but you could say that about a ground ball pitcher
especially with the rangers sketchy defense.
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
I just have an irrational fear of the arlington jet stream
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by LBBRangerFan on Jun 12, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Good pitch count for Hurley
77 pitches through 5 inning. 66% for strikes. Excellent.
Brandon Boggs 2008 Texas Rangers ROY
its homeruns + walks that really doom a pitcher
if he can avoid the walks he can withstand some HRs…
lookin good on the front today.
Bring up Justin Smoak
Well, Cat hasn't hit well lately
I guess they could have put Byrd there after the game he had last night, but with Vazquez taking the day off, Boggs makes a certain amount of sense.
Anyone who's watched him in the minors...
do his flyball outs usually look like moonshots? I swear, with every flyball he’s gotten, they look like they’re headed out off the bat.
He's been a mixed bag today
He’s thrown a lot of strikes (zero walks) but he’s groved some pitches, some of which he’s gotten away with. But his stuff looks pretty good, especially the slider – he just needs to work on keeping it down and out of the gearbox.
Good bite, IMO
Of course, I’m no scout, but I think it’s pretty good. That’s definitely his best pitch.
good and bad
pretty good stuff, velocity increased from 89 to 93 after a couple innings.
good control as far as throwing strikes, but really in the heart of the zone a few times resulting in HRs.
got hurt on some mistake pitches.
not great, but definitely some things to work from.
Bring up Justin Smoak
so he's pitching a bit as if he can make mistakes to AAA hitters?
he has no BBs…that’s fantastic. Does he work fast?
Rangers > Nationals...for now
yeah you could say that.
hes not working at a lightning fast pace, but certainly not too slow. hes moving along.
Bring up Justin Smoak
he's no Padilla, then
thanks for the info.
Yeesh…sounded like another grooved 2 strike pitch to Buck?
Rangers > Nationals...for now
well
i’d imagine bannister is done but htey could have made him work a bit more that inning.
Rare Gnats Sex
that post needs to be deleted
before the Royals score.
by JimCrankshaft on Jun 12, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
what do you think his final pitch count will be?
above or below 100
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
i really like the control
first time a new ranger has come in and thrown strikes in a long time.
Rare Gnats Sex
ground out yeah!!!
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wouldn't have blamed Hurley if that had been a HR
that was a pretty good pitch.
by JimCrankshaft on Jun 12, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Buzz needs to be faster with the play by play here
giving me a heart attack while i wait for him to finish the description of the flight of the ball and tell me if the damn thing was caught
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
I think that was just how long
the ball is in the air
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by LBBRangerFan on Jun 12, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
ill just say this
hurley has shown enough that I know when he goes out there with his best stuff he is going to have a good game. i cant say that for a lot of the guys weve run out there.
Bring up Justin Smoak
Gah...
This is just not going to work in Arlington against any lineup that is not KC.
Hey a groundout!
Another ground out
Yeah
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manage him to succeed
I would pull him now. A good start to build on.
Hurley 6IP 6H 4ER 0BB 3K 2HR
Brandon Boggs 2008 Texas Rangers ROY
At least he isn't walking anybody...
He may be getting beat around a bit, but God knows it’s nice to watch a Ranger game where a pitcher can actually keep the ball around the strike zone…
he starts the nest inning
but i dont think he finishes it
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
HILLMAN plays the game the right way.
dont you wish we had him. maybe him and nolan could just have little “good baseball men” tea partys
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
It's either that
or turn it over that bullpen
I guess it was the beatings made me wise. But I'm not about to give thanks, or apologize.
id like to see the rangers get a run so that
hurley gets a win
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
he went to the opposite ifeld last at bat.
an out though.
his 3 at bats that i remember are
3-2, single
3-2, out
2-2 + foul, strikeout.
thats what i like to see…. multiple hits or no.
Bring up Justin Smoak
If this is all Hurley is for us this year
I still like it. A guy who gives up a few runs but can eat innings and doesn’t walk people is what you want out of the back end of your rotation. God knows our bullpen will appreciate it.
Hurley....
He is doing a lot better than I thought he would.
Ive only been watching for a few innings, but this guy is legit.
"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos
ouch
To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball
im so glad the rangers didnt choose trey hillmen
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
what...
....does hillman think, bannister is japanese??
To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball
bunting with 2 outs?
and boggs on deck?
swing for the fences kins. of course now its 0-2.
Bring up Justin Smoak
Anybody else....
want to sneak up on John Buck with a pipe wrench and just beat him until his body no longer quivers?
he seems like a jackass.
Hillman really didn't have a choice
He was trying to squeeze out another inning from Bannister because his bullpen is severely overworked.
Brandon Boggs 2008 Texas Rangers ROY
should have brought up their elizardo ramirez
so we would be winning instead of tied.
Bring up Justin Smoak
Whats funny is...
People on this site were crying and getting pissed of about the Rangers not hiring Hillman.
What now?
"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos
yeah. hes fun to root for. he doenst act like a typical athlete
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
bannister should just
throw about 60 real pitches before a game before starting
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NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER
somebody should start emailing the rangers booth at nauseaum in ordeer to get that nick name out there
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
NickNames
did any of you e-mail the booth when they were asking about Hamilton nicknames the other night?
I did
I sent in Ham Slamwich
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
I love that name
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
Nice first outing for Hurley
Gave the Rangers 6 innings and no walks. Not to mention dude is only 22 he will get better.
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
he didnt really have to work at all
cruised through the game, just happened to give up some hrs. those hrs will continue to be a problem, but better that than struggling for 7 innings 120 pitches 5 walks or something.
Bring up Justin Smoak
Yeah
I actually would rather have a pitcher who throws strikes and misses bats while giving up some homers than a groundball nibbler who walks people and gives up a bunch of dinkus hits, myself.
me too.
Danks gave up quite a few homers last year, but he looks to have that under control this year. Hope for the same progression by Hurley.
He did much better than I thought (was afraid) he would
love the no walks.
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by LBBRangerFan on Jun 12, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Just got back from the gym.
How did Hurley do?
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
im summarizing him a lot today =p
started off the game at 89 mph with his fastball, but was quickly 93-94 in the third and after.
never had really long painful at bats or anything, just threw it up there. no walks. lots of flyballs, 2 of them went out for the 4 runs.
it was a solid starting point, but yeah… hes going to have to leave fewer pitches in the middle of the zone against a HR hitting team.
Bring up Justin Smoak
6.0 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 2 HR
92 pitches, 63 strikes. 3 groundouts, 12 flyouts.
He looked good, threw a lot of strikes and broke off a few nice sliders. He did leave too many pitches in the middle of the plate, but overall, that was a great debut.
thats shocking.
To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball
10 Strikes - 3 Balls
love it
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Royals pen
Yay! Let the runs flow.
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
so far so good
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by LBBRangerFan on Jun 12, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn MY is in a horrible slump...
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
I understand lol
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
I just spent 30 minutes interviewing Loretta Lynn
And all I could think was “i wonder how hurley’s doing.”
You know you have an unhealthy obsession when …
overrated.
To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball
Hillman should
have kept Mahay in. He is there only reliable bullpen pitcher.
Brandon Boggs 2008 Texas Rangers ROY
he is physically faster but not as good of a baserunner
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
yes
Way to go Hammy!
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
there we go hammy
small steps. 3 singles yesterday, 2 doubles today. though not exactly ripped.
Bring up Justin Smoak
HAM.
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
Murphinator
Will drive in the go ahead runs right here.
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
Isn't that a Tupac song?
I guess it was the beatings made me wise. But I'm not about to give thanks, or apologize.
I dont think so
but it should be. Im sure he will make one in the next year or two.
DAVE CHAPPELLE THATS NOT YO WIFE!
by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 12, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Guy looks terrified
In his Yahoo pic
I guess it was the beatings made me wise. But I'm not about to give thanks, or apologize.
come on
you can do it Murph.
Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever. - Lance Armstrong
can't get gameday
at work. Yahoo, espn, mlb and others are at least 1 minute behind on updating their play by play.
Brandon Boggs 2008 Texas Rangers ROY
I had to ask for updates last night
b/c gameday wasn’t working and stat tracker on fantasy baseball wasn’t either.
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 12, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
thats why i was asking
gameday is much faster than TV. wondering why anybody would need our updates
Rare Gnats Sex
ugh.
come on. 8th inning, game on the line, lefty-lefty… bring in bradley!
oh well, last guy i doubted was duran in the 2nd.
Bring up Justin Smoak
noooooooooo
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
at least the run scores
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
That'll do.
However, outstanding catch.
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
from the radio broadcast, EXTREMELY close
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
yeah. caught that on his way into the wall
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
close enough to a homer
if a great catch isn’t make, it’s a double
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yeah
dude was playing in and Murph hit it to the wall…the Jesus went a long way for that catch.
by JimCrankshaft on Jun 12, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
At the wall, essentially.
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
ill take that. it was really close to being HUGE
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
Like last night
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
Fly away, Byrdman.
"Boy, that is a gutless, 6-foot-7, .200-hitting formerly good player. What a joke." -Tom Grieve RE: Richie Sexson
Not your son
SaltyGoesYard….
Do you have an auto search for “salty” on these threads?
haha
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 12, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
don't make me
drop a ‘bow on you, partna.
by JimCrankshaft on Jun 12, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Just you wait.
Maybe Wash will PH Laird for a sac bunt in the 9th and really get your motor going.
by MeanMr.Mustard on Jun 12, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
i really doubted eddie coming into the season but that has been a
nice pickup
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
Trade value
almost as hot as fundamentals.
by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 12, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Frankie makes me uneasy
fortunately the royals suck at hitting baseballs
by MeanMr.Mustard on Jun 12, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
he's got an ERA of 2.96 on the year?
wow. I thought it was in the 4.5 range
by MeanMr.Mustard on Jun 12, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
I’ve always liked the guy, just thought he was struggling this year for some reason. Maybe Benoit’s doing so poorly I blamed the whole pen.
by MeanMr.Mustard on Jun 12, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Decent shot at finally having an under 3 hour game.
dont let them tie it frankie.
Bring up Justin Smoak
Someone asked a few weeks ago (jokingly, I think)
How the new Rambo movie is..
I watched it, and it’s 100% awesome. I’m not even joking. The goriest movie I’ve ever seen.
Son of Rambo?
Have you seen Son of Rambo? Not bad.
I guess it was the beatings made me wise. But I'm not about to give thanks, or apologize.
yea
i watched it the other night, it was better then i thought it would be…...body parts flying everywhere.
When he fires that Jeep-mounted gun at the guys IN THE JEEP
They just turned into a chunky red mist.
The sniper taking that dude’s dome off was pretty insane too.
Ending
Someone described the ending as the most improbable ending to a movie last year. Rambo uses 50 cal machine that causes people to explode. But when a boat comes by and hits him with a 50 cal, Rambo just falls down before getting back up to shoot the boat, which of course explodes.
Derek
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on Jun 12, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
he and padilla had the same 6 ip 4 ER line
but Hurley’s was about 5x easier to watch.
Bring up Justin Smoak
CRAP!
Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever. - Lance Armstrong
cmon frankie
at least get ONE out
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
SHIT
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
Dang it!
Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever. - Lance Armstrong
Rojas
didnt get the memo, he started to blame that 1st run on Salty, by saying that Salty over ran the wild pitch and that they could have gotten him at the plate, good thing someone had a talk to him and let him know that nothing is ever Salty’s fault
by blueballlefty on Jun 12, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude
You are really something, you know that?
You seriously no fan of Salty’s, that’s the nicest way I can put it.
UGH
get frankie out of there
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
this is crap
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
i really thought they might have thrown him out
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
FUCK!
Bring back eddie!
Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever. - Lance Armstrong
and just like that
we are 3 outs against a good closer with the end of our lineup up from losing.
Bring up Justin Smoak
There it is
I know someone would say it. What exactly was wrong with Byrd’s throw?
JD drinks the Angels milkshake.
i don't get why this isn't a valid complaint
hamilton has a better arm. if you call him off, you better get it there on time.
Rare Gnats Sex
Actually
My point is I knew people would complaint about Byrd’s throw since he called off the savior Josh Hamilton, even though Byrd’s throw was very good.
JD drinks the Angels milkshake.
the point is
he should never ever ever call off hamilton unless they have a throwing contest and he proves he has a better arm – which he doesn’t
Rare Gnats Sex
why call off the guy that has a better arm?
and it wasn’t a perfect throw. it wasn’t on time and it was up the third base line
Rare Gnats Sex
So
You’re saying Hamilton would have made the “perfect” throw? Byrd’s throw was pretty damn good.
JD drinks the Angels milkshake.
It's not MMQ...
It’s more of “Why do you call off the better arm?”
Whether he made a nice throw, or not…
He caught the ball
got behind the throw and threw a perfect strike to the plate.
by JimCrankshaft on Jun 12, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
if LSB ever makes a t-shirt that should go across the chest
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
he was unavailable with whatever tightness the past couple days
hopefully hes not quite right.
milton bradley is still out there.
Bring up Justin Smoak
Not sure.
The CF calls the shots out there though.
by The Best Micah on Jun 12, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
It was a nice throw..
he did a nice job. I just think Josh could have built momentum on it and gunned it.
our
real bullpen is back, why didnt wash let cj get a 2 inning save after the 2 guys got on
i dont
know if i have that much faith in cj
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
are you serious?
There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.
by SarasotaRanger on Jun 12, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
The bullpen
just wants to remind us that they’re still there…. and still godawful.
There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.
sweep?
dude look at our pitching staff, its amazing we even fucking win.
by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 12, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Soria
Will melt down today and the Rangers will carry a 4 game win streak away from KC.
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
its just 1 run...
with hopefully bradley-salty-vazquez-kinsler
its not over yet.
Bring up Justin Smoak
My question is...
Why do we always have to take out a guy like Wright after he pitched a nice inning. Let him go for 2 innings and if he gets in any trouble bring in someone else.
gordon
yes im seconds guess but why on earth would you throw that nasty changeup when you are throwing 95?
damnit
ok, no bradley for shelton
i guess we dont want laird or whoever playing first….
bradley hopefully ninth then..
Bring up Justin Smoak
Maybe if they get to the #2 batter
Bradley comes in for Boggs.
by The Best Micah on Jun 12, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
wonder what the WPA for the rangers is here
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
Who do you send up to hit for him?
Your bench is Bradley, Vazquez, and Laird. And Bradley likely hits for Duran.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 12, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Salty working the count
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
salty.
inconsistent with the playing time.
by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 12, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Down to our last out.
Why is Vazquez hitting?
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
while a .230 hitter led off -- good job Wash
He may be better than last year but he still does more to make you scratch your head than anything else
to anyone else
does soria look like a demon or something
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
dammit
at least Hurley had a decent outing
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
FUCK!!!!!!
FUCK Fx2 he brought weak ass sauce to the game today.
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
why is it
that we can sweep anybody?
Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever. - Lance Armstrong
Dammit
what a perfectly horrid way to blow a perfectly good game.
I kinda wish we sent Eddie out there now.
Well, their wins are pretty rare
They have to get all the milage they can out of their 65-70 per year.
thats an interesting senario you bring up
do you trade bradley for pitching. or do you take a chance and sign him for like two or three years
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
you never even think
about signing him, it should never cross your mind.
His trade will bring us the final pieces to the puzzle.
by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 12, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
lets not forget how stale the batting order was last year
touchdown... touchdown... and st.micheals takes the lead.
PITCHING
if we lose bradley it doesn’t really matter, we always find a new hitter that does good unexpectedly
how many years in a row has he been healthy again
He’s sky high right now—trade value will never be higher
this
is the kind of game the seperates a good team from a mediocre team
we are a mediocre team bro.
just be glad we have not regressed to bad yet.
by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 12, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
i know
we are mediocre thats why i said that
Can we send down the bullpen
sans Everyday and CJ?
There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.
Hahaha I love that sig.
Haven’t seen it before now. Very nice.
My three favorite numbers: 10, 32, 36. =)
by utlonghorn24 on Jun 12, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
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http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/16/213154/893
Probably a couple of them for sure...
I am glad Mathis is back in the pen for now, and the one guy I want to see by the ASB is Madrigal. His numbers are stout and he could do well in a setup role perhaps.
My three favorite numbers: 10, 32, 36. =)
by utlonghorn24 on Jun 12, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Yea
Sometime in his career, I can’t remember when, he used a red bat and really liked the color but he’s a Louisville Slugger guy so he called them up and asked if they could make him some red bats and the rest is history.
I was looking for some action, but all I found were cigarettes and alcohol.
Let's trade Bradley to the Royals.
For Mahay and a really awesome minor league pitcher. Or Greinke.
Yeah I’m just making stuff up, sorry.
My three favorite numbers: 10, 32, 36. =)
Also, I just wanna say...
Hurley had some good stuff today. Made a couple of mistakes with the pitches that went out, but I was very impressed overall. What did you guys think?
My three favorite numbers: 10, 32, 36. =)
Looked good in spots
Looked homer prone a bit. Which is not an issue if he learns the league and the hitters, and those weren’t the mistake pitches anybody can hit out. No one game diagnosis though, let’s see how he acclimates.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Jun 12, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I think
That he did good. He needs improvement on keeping his pitches out of the center of the plate, but other than that, I really liked the way he pitched today.
Because of his outing, I’m actually feeling like we won this game today.
Throwing strikes...
Can’t complain… He’s just gotta take the lumps and learn from them…
Zero walks is more encouraging than 2 HRs are discouraging…
And he kept his pitch count relatively low, which is nice…
Good first outing. Cannot complain.
bradley
should have pinch hit for shelton. they could have moved salty to first and brought laird in to catch. guy leading the league in obp to lead off the inning would have been nice.
prolly over wash’s head though
Wash fell into the classic trap
Of trying to save his best bench player for when somebody reached base. But unfortunately, he didn’t take into account the fact that you have to get somebody on base before you can worry about having somebody drive them in.
It’s a classic mistake for over-conservative managers like Wash, who try to micro-manage everything.
IMO
Wash is a HORRIFIC in-game decision-maker. Other than that, he’s a great manager. But he is awful at making good choices in the middle of the game. He’s not very good at putting a solid line up together when his good hitters need a day off either. Going to an NL park scares me a little in that respect.
My three favorite numbers: 10, 32, 36. =)
by utlonghorn24 on Jun 12, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, I agree
But I would think that kinda means he’s a poor manager, wouldn’t you?
Yes, he’s a nice guy and a good coach, but if he can’t make in-game decisions correctly, or efficiently manage his lineup or his bullpen, then he’s not actually managing well. Another thing is, he doesn’t take charge and actively argue enough on behalf of his players during games. The only guy I’ve seen him actually get out there and defend is Milton Bradley, but the rest of the guys seem to be pretty much on their own when they have beefs with the umpires.
I still say Matt Walbeck should be managing this team, and Ron should be on the third base line. The team may be playing well enough to overcome most of Wash’s mistakes these days, but I do think they could do a little better without all his nonsensical decisions.
Semantics, semantics
the manager means very little. If he keeps Mitlon Bradley productive and happy till teh Deadline and keeps Josh Hamilton, Ian Kinsler, et all happy during the season and don’t burn through his young players, he’s a good enough manager.
Seriously, this team has way bigger problems than worrying what Ron is going to do.
"classic situation"
of course. I’m sure you got that from 30 years of watching baseball. you know all about classic managerial faux paux’s. he “micromanaged” the game by NOT PH’ng. Seems like a new one but I get it. He’s just in over his head but you knew that PHng Bradley was the right thing to do.
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second guessing
PH bradley for vasquez. lets say you end up with a run. Then you have to bring in vasquez for the bottom of the 9th – a PH batter that you just lost. Now you only have laird, and you pretty much have to keep him
Instead, use vasquez to get on base. then you can PH Bradley for Boggs, Murphy or Byrd.
Vasquez OBP vs. RH’s: about 420
Bradley OBP vs. RH’s: 419
Those numbers have sample size problems and vasquez isn’t that good but the point is that right now, he’s pretty decent against RH’s. and using him doesn’t screw up your bench.
Now, given all that, is it soooo stupid that he did what he did?
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i wanted him to PH for shelton originally, not vazquez
and was the reaction really sooooooooo extreme?
oh god, i and others wondered aloud why our hottest and arguably best hitter was on the bench in a one run game. how absurd.
round and round we go.
Bring up Justin Smoak
+ 1
yep that doesn’t make a whole lot of sense no matter how you spin it.
The "Electrician" was born 7/16/07 11:53 PM EDT
http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/7/16/213154/893
Here
Milton Bradley has put up a
.286 .410 .446 .856 line on the road this year. Still great, but not exactly the awesome unstoppable line he has at home. In fact, it’s startling similar to this line .316 .409 .421 .830, which is Chris Shelton’s June numbers.
None of this actually matters, because pinch hitters hit something like .200/.220/.300 in the AL. The game was lost when Frankie sucked. End of story.
and even though you said you wanted Guardado
there really wasn’t an option better than Frankie.
No second guessing involved except Frankie’s pitch selection
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PH for shelton
and then who takes over at 1st? I guess you would use salty to cover 1st and then laird would have to come in for catcher so you are out a back up catcher. and your bench is down to vasquez. Slightly better but a little risky with the catcher situation.
but, in the end, how much better than what wash did? not much. about the same, and wash’s plan allows you to be more flexible in later innings.
and look above and below – everyone sees this as some holy grail evidence of wash not knowing what he is doing. except they’re wrong and besides a simplistic understanding of PH’ng, don’t know what the F is going on.
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and salty as far as i know
hasn’t taken any reps at 1st this year. Can duran play 1st?
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the likelihood is that noone has to play first
if it worked out and we tied the game based on that pinch hit, i think we could find a way.
salty could certainly play first base for an inning or two. hell, gerald laird could play first base for an an inning. ANYONE can play first base for a couple innings. its not exactly the most challenging position/
but, if you want to go deeper, chris shelton shouldnt have been in the game in the first place. when there are 2 outs and cat is on deck, why substitute him before he is actually up? if he had waited to see if cat would actually have had to face the lefty there, they could have kept cat in defensively, then pinch hit with bradley and played shelton at first in the bottom of the ninth and on if it had gotten there.
Bring up Justin Smoak
and that
might be a valid complaint. Although I probably would let Cat hit against a righty. i’m not sure that Shelton was substituted for while Cat was on deck. I don’t think you have to announce a substitution unless someone actually comes to the plate. So, it’s more an issue that Shelton shouldn’t have been a defensive substitution, but this is also a game where Cat made a bad play at 1st (though I think it was fine).
But still, don’t think it was an egregious error that represents a fatal flaw – just another way to go.
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