Peterson in Texas?
by meatbonelefty on Jun 13, 2008 11:01 AM CDT
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Jon Heyman has wrote that Willie Randolph, Howard Johnson, and Rick Peterson could be on their way out of New York.
Do you think there is a possibility that we shoot the goose and hire Peterson.
He is one of the top pitching coaches around and has developed young pitchers (Zito, Mulder, Hudson)
Also familiar with Ron Wahington from their days in Oakland. Maybe a FA will want to sign here if we have a good pitching coach
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All for it, and he’d probably be in time to abet the waves of pitching coming up.
It’s key that Washington and Howe know him…his reputation is of rankling some folks at each stop, but getting results.
That’s a real possibility. Conor’s sort of coaching the worst staff in the league right now.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jun 13, 2008 11:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As long as they don't allow him
to decide what stud pitching prospect to deal at the deadline.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 13, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Staff needs a change
I believe Mark Conner has had MORE than enough time to develop the pitching staff. Despite all of the injuries, I don’t have much confidence that he will get the best out of our prospects.
Peterson or Leo Mazzone would be a couple of options to try something new. The walks have GOT to stop. Just throw strikes please.
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by pbpsean on Jun 13, 2008 12:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gagree
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by Chase Irwin on Jun 13, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In Conner's defense
he hasn’t had much talent to work with.
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by RangerMad on Jun 13, 2008 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
isnt he a Chiti and Buck and Hart guy
hell those guys are the reason they traded CY, Chiti and Conner must have had some influence on Danks move etc. and he had volqueso for multiple seasons and the kid changes his arm angle and turns into a CY potential guy.
screw mark conner, the quicker he’s gone, the quicker we can move on. im more fried with that guy and have been more than i ever have at any time at wash.
conner = goner
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by Jayslick on Jun 13, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that he needs to go
but is it his fault that Mccarthy keeps getting hurt?? At the time, there was a good amount of people in favor of the trade. And as for Volquez, do you honestly believe that he would be pitching as good as he is in Cincinatti down here?? I think his success has as much to do with facing new hitters for the first time as it does with a better coaching staff.
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by hinduplaya on Jun 13, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Outside of...
Mulder (#2 overall), Zito (#9 overall), and Hudson (185th overall), what has Rick Peterson done that’s so noteworthy? I probably know and have just forgotten, but it seems like he rides high in a lot of fan opinions because of those three – who really had the talent to succeed no matter who their coach was.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 13, 2008 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But
he would still be an upgrade over Mark Connor.
by coolaid on Jun 13, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Based on what?
Mark Connor resurrected Roy Halladay and Edinson Volquez. Has Rick Peterson ever saved someone’s career?
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 13, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edinson Volquez.
After a phone call from Daniels telling him he’d been traded to Cincinnati interrupted his dominoes game last December, Volquez reported to the Reds training facility in his native Dominican Republic where he made his biggest mechanical adjustment: He dropped his elbow about three inches from the high-3/4 arm slot the Rangers wanted him to throw from to his instinctive low-3/4 delivery he used as a prospect and now, again, as a force with the Reds. “When you’re naturally a 3/4 and you try to go higher, you’re not going to be the same. It’s not natural for you,” Volquez says. “The way I’m pitching now, this is what I’ve been looking for the last three seasons.”
Unless Volquez’s middle name is Mark Conner, you can’t give Conner credit for Volquez’s resurrection.
“We had to re-create his confidence,” former Blue Jays manager Buck Martinez said. “And that step was to start him back in (Class) A ball. No one deserves credit more than Roy Halladay because it could have gone either way.”
by coolaid on Jun 13, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're talking about...
the difference between a resurrected career and a Cy Young candidacy.
Both of those pitchers were lost before they were sent down to Class A and work their ways back to the bigs.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 13, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
you are giving credit to Mark Conner for the success Volqueso had last year with the Rangers?
It was probably JD who made the decision.
Peterson joined the Oakland organization as a roving minor league pitching instructor for the 1998 season. He was named the major league pitching coach for the A’s on March 26, 1998. He is well-known for helping the A’s develop the ‘Big Three’ of Barry Zito, Mark Mulder, and Tim Hudson. All three pitchers became 20-game winners under Rick Peterson and Zito won the 2002 American League Cy Young Award. After he arrived in 1998, Peterson helped his pitching staff obtain an American League best ERA for two years, 3.63 in 2003 and 3.58 in 2002.
by coolaid on Jun 13, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you suggesting that JD called Toronto...
and had them send Roy Halladay down to A-ball, too?
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 14, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also...
my big question is “other than those three.” Giving Peterson credit for them is like giving Jaramillo credit for Mark Teixeira.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 14, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Conner ineffective.
Why do we have so many injuries? Why don’t don’t we see improvement from the pitchers that are healthy? Is he telling the management that it is OK to trade/release the pitchers they do?
Find a pitching coach that you can give TOTAL control of the staff too. Let Wash/Howe handle the defense/baserunning and situational hitting.
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by pbpsean on Jun 13, 2008 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If there is to be a staffing change
I’d start with pitching and bullpen coaches, if for no other reason to avoid “the definition of ___ is doing the same thing over and over, when ti’s proven not to work”.
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by Ed Coffin on Jun 13, 2008 5:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
also, those 2 spots are “buck guys”. i think everyone knows rudy is here to stay, but let wash choose his pitching coaches
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by rentz on Jun 14, 2008 6:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Wash has gotten to choose his staff except for pitching and batting coaches. Seeing how Rudy is most likely never going anywhere because he is god, let Ron hire someone that he can trust like Peterson for his pitching coach. If it doesn’t work, then you can start over and re design your whole coaching staff.
Basically, we need to assume that Wash is here until his contract is up to avoid another mess like before. Hate him or love him.
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by NYTXFAN on Jun 14, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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