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Texas Rangers @ New York Mets


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Texas Rangers
@ New York Mets

Friday, Jun 13, 2008, 6:10 PM CDT
Shea Stadium

Scott Feldman vs Oliver Perez

Mostly clear. Winds blowing from right to left field at 5-15 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 80.

 

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Mets suck...

Pathetic they are.

Waggoner has blown like 3 saves in a row?

"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos

by miles on Jun 13, 2008 5:19 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

series price

posted earlier in an unrelated “curse” discussion

NYM -215
TEX +175

the sucking must be taking a hiatus this weekend…

either that or most people think we suck worse…

by sam in so cal on Jun 13, 2008 5:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

miles

Why are you so edgy this year?

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 5:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm on

my period.

"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos

by miles on Jun 13, 2008 5:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I believe that bitch...

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 5:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

un-necessary use...

...of ‘like’ as a modifier…

To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball

by ivysafety39 on Jun 13, 2008 5:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So...

Lakers going to win 3 in a row now?

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 13, 2008 5:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lets just

say if the Giants and Celtics win championships in the same year, I will be on suicide watch.

"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos

by miles on Jun 13, 2008 5:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What happened to your...

...very assured proclamations that the Celtics aren’t that good?

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 13, 2008 5:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Oh, I still have confidence...

The Lakers just need to start playing defense.

Gasol and Vujachic are softies, they need to D up.

"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos

by miles on Jun 13, 2008 6:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2 in a row

Stern wouldn’t have it any other way.

JD drinks the Angels milkshake.

by WyoRanger on Jun 13, 2008 5:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Waggoner...

I grew up on Waggoner Dr. in Arlington.

Call 1-800-DOCTORB. The B is for bargain!

by Panorama on Jun 13, 2008 5:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn

Another Carlos Gomez little rat running around in Jose Reyes.

I hate this team already

by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 13, 2008 5:27 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rangers win

5-2

i can feel it

http://www.buchanan4pres2008.org/
NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER

by gossamer on Jun 13, 2008 5:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not today gos

Today it will be a 7-5 game.

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 5:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes

It will be a 5-7 loss since Miles put the curse on this game.

"Vote for OUR guys in."

by coolaid on Jun 13, 2008 5:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is this a good ballpark

for hammy to get a few homeruns in?

The funny thing about my back is that its located on my cock.

by iorange555 on Jun 13, 2008 5:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No

Very pitcher-friendly.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 13, 2008 5:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

darn

The funny thing about my back is that its located on my cock.

by iorange555 on Jun 13, 2008 5:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

woops

never doubt J32…..

although your analysis was obviously spot on….

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by red shoe ranger on Jun 13, 2008 6:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

where be my lineup

whats the holdup wash.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 13, 2008 5:43 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Calm down.

Ian Kinsler, 2B
Michael Young, SS
Josh Hamilton, CF
Milton Bradley, RF
David Murphy, LF
Chris Shelton, 1B
Jarrod Saltalamacchia, C
German Duran, 3B
Scott Feldman, P

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by coolaid on Jun 13, 2008 5:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lineup

Kinsler
Young
Hamilton
Bradley
Murphy
Shelton
Saltalamacchia
Duran
Feldman

Lefty Oliver Perez on the mound for the Mets.

by Outworlder47 on Jun 13, 2008 5:46 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Some more draft picks signed.

Jared Bolden, OF, Virginia Commonwealth (ninth round)
Cliff Springston, LHP, Arkansas (11th round)
Edward Koncel, SS, Joliet (Ill.) JC (13th round)
Dustin Brader, RHP, Arizona State (21st round)
Trevor Hurley, RHP, Kansas State (22nd round)
Tyler Tufts, RHP, Indiana (32nd round)
Jamie McGraw, CF, Corgan College (40th round)
Rafael Hill, CF, Austin Peay (47th round)

Link

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by coolaid on Jun 13, 2008 5:46 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mets Pre-Game

Man, watching the Mets pre-game show and them talking about Willie Randolph – I get the feeling that if the Rangers score 5 runs in the top of the first, he may get fired before the bottom of the inning!

Oh, and a nice interview with Hamilton that talked about his performance on the field only (plus one questions about who is role model is these days = Narron). Haven’t seen one in a while that did NOT talk about his past.

by UrbanDad on Jun 13, 2008 5:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone know

a website that keeps track of the draft pick signed this year for the Rangers?

texasrangers.com doesn’t have it for this year.

"Vote for OUR guys in."

by coolaid on Jun 13, 2008 5:58 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is it just me

Or would the rest of you guys like to see more Interleague games?? I mean, I’d rather see guys like Holliday or Wright more than once every 3 years.

"I'll take Clemens over Millwood and Padilla anyday.." - bosoxsiempregirl

^^^^ Wow, I would too. I guess that makes me the next John Schuerholtz.

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by hinduplaya on Jun 13, 2008 6:13 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes

But the “rivalry” crap needs to change. I can understand a weighted schedule, but not this “rivalry” shit.

JD drinks the Angels milkshake.

by WyoRanger on Jun 13, 2008 6:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He smoked that ball

"I'll take Clemens over Millwood and Padilla anyday.." - bosoxsiempregirl

^^^^ Wow, I would too. I guess that makes me the next John Schuerholtz.

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by hinduplaya on Jun 13, 2008 6:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YAY HAMMY!

Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever. - Lance Armstrong

by esme on Jun 13, 2008 6:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hammy is back!

now if only MY had taken ball 4

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 13, 2008 6:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Call 1-800-DOCTORB. The B is for bargain!

by Panorama on Jun 13, 2008 6:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

where does

J32 get his power????

His swings dont generally look all that powerfull to me. That didnt look like a homerun cut…

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by red shoe ranger on Jun 13, 2008 6:18 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Im going with the hands...

must be lightning quick.

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by red shoe ranger on Jun 13, 2008 6:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well in SI

they said his bat swing has been clocked at 110mph so that may generate some power

by blueballlefty on Jun 13, 2008 6:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hamilton's HR chart

Courtesy of HitTracker:

Now that is uniform dominance.

Baseball Time in Arlington

by jamcadbury on Jun 13, 2008 6:18 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Sweet

His shortest HR looks about 355 nice.

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 6:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very nice...

I find it hard to believe that he hasn’t hit one 500 ft yet.

That bomb to right in Arlington looked farther than 450+

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 13, 2008 8:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The good part is...

that ends Hamilton’s HR drought, too… hasn’t it been a week or so?

by Inkara1 on Jun 13, 2008 6:21 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

Hopefully the bitching and moaning that was going on a couple days ago will stop now. Never has a guy in a 2-3 game slump created so much noise as his did.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 13, 2008 6:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

june 3

http://www.buchanan4pres2008.org/
NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER

by gossamer on Jun 13, 2008 6:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With no DH...

...I’d much rather see Boggs or Byrd playing tonight, than Murphy…

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 13, 2008 6:21 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why is that

lefty lefty thing?

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by red shoe ranger on Jun 13, 2008 6:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 13, 2008 6:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Murphy

He has earned the right to be called an everyday player regardless of whos playing. Plus wasn’t his HR or GS the other night against a lefty so its not like he is blown away by them

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 13, 2008 6:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

.623 ops against

define “blown away”

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 13, 2008 6:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No
He has earned the right to be called an everyday player regardless of whos playing.

I’m not sure how he’s done that. Particularly given that he has a 620 OPS against them this season.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 13, 2008 6:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

are you saying

he should be platooned?

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by red shoe ranger on Jun 13, 2008 6:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Given the other options the Rangers have available...

...I think the Rangers should be sitting him against the majority of LHPs.

Right now, the Rangers are sort of platooning Byrd and Boggs, which makes no sense, since Boggs hits LHPs much better than RHPs.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 13, 2008 6:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know you

hate the RBI stat but it would be a little jarring to go tell a guy in the top 5 in RBI’s that hes being platooned…

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by red shoe ranger on Jun 13, 2008 6:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hamilton is back!

http://www.buchanan4pres2008.org/
NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER

by gossamer on Jun 13, 2008 6:22 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why don't we

start Elizardo Ramirez instead of Feldman?

"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos

by miles on Jun 13, 2008 6:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Miles

Just be quiet tonight.

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 6:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Crap

If there’s no balk, that inning is over…Kinsler doubles the runner off of 2nd…

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 13, 2008 6:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no

with a runner on 2nd the defense is not pulled in so that ball doesn’t get caught and probably squirts through the middle

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 13, 2008 6:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kins saves a run

tough play with the infield in

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 13, 2008 6:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice snag....save a run

If you want some slack, bring your own rope.

by rangerfaninva on Jun 13, 2008 6:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Radio guys

went crazy over that play by Kins. You guys are pretty damned subdued.

JD drinks the Angels milkshake.

by WyoRanger on Jun 13, 2008 6:31 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it was a broken bat liner that he lunged for.

it was good but not THAT good.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 13, 2008 6:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought it was nice looking

but only because Kinsler was playing really close to the grass…

by JBImaknee on Jun 13, 2008 6:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Line drive 1-4

Never seen that one before…

by Outworlder47 on Jun 13, 2008 6:31 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't worry

about the fucking runner. Jut throw strikes and get the guy out.

"Vote for OUR guys in."

by coolaid on Jun 13, 2008 6:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whats with the double clutching salty

obviously it didnt matter there, but he just keeps doing that.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 13, 2008 6:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mark Connor

makes a huge difference when he goes to the mound to talk to the pitchers. Just not a good one.

"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos

by miles on Jun 13, 2008 6:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn it!

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 6:37 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on Feldman strike

This SOB out

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 6:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I still like Salty better than Laird

but he’s gotta get his problem of letting people steal at least somewhat fixed

"I'll take Clemens over Millwood and Padilla anyday.." - bosoxsiempregirl

^^^^ Wow, I would too. I guess that makes me the next John Schuerholtz.

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by hinduplaya on Jun 13, 2008 6:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

definately

"I'll take Clemens over Millwood and Padilla anyday.." - bosoxsiempregirl

^^^^ Wow, I would too. I guess that makes me the next John Schuerholtz.

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by hinduplaya on Jun 13, 2008 6:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ok

Maybe if he did it a little better he would play more

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 13, 2008 6:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep

It is Laird’s fault Saltalamacchia isn’t throwing well.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 13, 2008 6:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

D'oh

JD drinks the Angels milkshake.

by WyoRanger on Jun 13, 2008 6:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm saying that...

...I don’t think the fact that he’s starting about half the time, instead of 75-80% of the time, is the reason why he isn’t throwing runners out.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 13, 2008 6:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't say that either

I’m just saying that if he had consistent playing time, and more chances to throw it would be easier for Walbeck or whomever to correct his problems.

A Lonestar in California

by lonestarJon on Jun 13, 2008 6:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh he'd have more chances to throw alright

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 13, 2008 6:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no you dont correct stuff during a game

this isnt golf, this is a team game and if you are sucking then the TEAM brings someone in that isnt

by blueballlefty on Jun 13, 2008 6:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

People like you just don't get it

We’re not contending this year. We should be developing Salty so he’ll be a better player when we are contending here in a couple years.

It’s not about winning games now, it’s about developing the players that wil win you games down the road. That’s why Eric Hurley is up here, and that’s why he’s getting a chance even though eveyone knows he still has problems giving up home runs.

But you don’t seem to get it – you’re just a casual fan who can’t get beyond the old “we should play whoever the best players currently are”. It’s a damn good thing you’re not the GM, because it’s that mentality that has cost us talent like Travis Hafner, Adrian Gonzalez, Chris Young and others in the past.

A Lonestar in California

by lonestarJon on Jun 13, 2008 6:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what he said.

To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball

by ivysafety39 on Jun 13, 2008 7:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dude your crazy

I’m a casual fan huh, I’ve been rooting for this team since I was in diapers. People like you dont get it, saying that “it’s not about winning games now” that is quite possibly one of the dumbest things you have ever said on here, what if the Rockies said that last year and its not like there are a lot of differences in the two of us, I mean for God sakes they had Mike Redman and Josh Fogg starting games and Jamey Carrol as there hero at the end of the season, what if Tampa says that this year, I mean they have a damn 20 year old at third base and Eric Freaking Hinske in right field, by us not trying to win games now is doing a huge diservice to our fans and other players on this team, I mean look at Oakland this year they are “Rebuilding” but they are still winning games, if we didnt care about winning games and then we had Harrison/Hurley come up and win like 12 out of 15 starts and C.Davis/M.Ram come up and hit 20 HR’s and drive in 50 runs in two months then we would really regret just giving away games earlier in the year, If Salty wants to be a Major League catcher then he needs to understand that its not a job you learn as you go, just ask Laird he was in a similiar situation with Barajas, the only difference was Laird had actually produced offensively and defensively before he was made to sit/play at aaa behind Rod, so stop being such a Salty ASSHAT and understand you can WIN and Rebuild at the same time.

by blueballlefty on Jun 13, 2008 7:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And you just prove my point over agin

You don’t get it.

“Rebuilding” is the equivalent of “learning as you go”. It’s good to win games while you’re rebuilding, but the idea is to let players play, get acclimated to the majors, and make the final improvements to their game they need to become great players. But you’re trying to say saying that if a player has a single shortcoming, he should not be allowed to be part of the rebuilding, which is stupid.

A Lonestar in California

by lonestarJon on Jun 13, 2008 7:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In case you haven't noticed

We are in contention this year. Will we win the division…probably not but we are not out of it. And until we are we cannot just throw in the towel. And even though we are in contention we are playing our young guys. We probably have one of the youngest starting lineups in the majors on most nights. Hamilton, Murphy, Boggs, Kinsler, Duran, Salty, Laird, Hurley, Feldman, Mathis, Gabbard, Rupe, CJ, FX2, and im sure im forgetting a few but all those guys are guys I would consider young and who will be here next year and the year after when we are supposed to be in contention. We are bringing up our young guys but not at the expense of winning we are doing it when they are ready and are in a position to not only continue developing but also compete. The veterans we do have are for the most part all doing a great job. Bradley, Guardado, Millwood, and Padilla are all helping us win and the key is they are not blocking anyone who could be here.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 13, 2008 7:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How is letting Salty catch more

Throwing in the towel?

I didn’t say throw in the towel, but we need to remember where we are in our team’s development, and not try to prematurely go on a championship run.

A Lonestar in California

by lonestarJon on Jun 13, 2008 7:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ok

But your love of Salty is blinding you to the fact that his competition is not doing a bad job. Laird has been very good. And I know you will probably point to Saltys OPS or something and say his bat is so valuable but his throwing is legitimately starting to concern me. Concern me to a point where I think it may actually be hurting us more than his walks help us. I have no problem with him playing when he does but if he gets a day or two or three off in a row and laird keeps playing the way he has I am fine with that. And if Salty can’t keep working on his throwing on days he isn’t playing then you know what send him back down and resign Melhuise.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 13, 2008 7:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know Laird has been good

But he has no future here. That’s not a knock on his abilites or the year he’s had, he’s just not the future.

We don’t really even know if the Rangers have taken the time to try and coach Salty with his throwing (which kinda seems doubtful, based on the fact that it’s not improving) so my point is, it would be better if we could see Salty play more often, so they might figure out what he needs to help him, and get it done. At this point, sending him back to AAA to do that is not really an option because thats where Teagarden is, so that means he’s got to get that playing time in the majors.

And another thing: as for Adam Melhuse, well his throwing is just as bad as Salty’s, and you’d have to put him on the 40 man roster, so that’s not really a good idea.

A Lonestar in California

by lonestarJon on Jun 13, 2008 7:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Laird

How do you know his future isn’t here? Is he an aging vet thats going to retire in a year or so? No. Hes still a relatively young catcher with decent offensive ability and above average defensive ability. And I believe he is still under team control for another year so its not like he is a FA after this year. We could conceivably go with Laird for this, and next year and possibly further than that and you know what. It may not be a bad idea.

For the record I do think Salty is the future by the way. But the Rangers have enough tape and have seen him enough that I am sure they know what is wrong with his throwing and if they aren’t working on it on the side that is a disservice to not only him but the club as well.

Basically my argument is that Saltys offense right now does not outweigh his defense enough to justify playing him the majority of the time. Until either Laird is traded, his offense goes in the tank, or Salty figures out how to not let it be a congo line from 1st to 2nd than there will be alot of 2-3 day breaks for him.

Alright well I am out for the night so this argument will have to resume another time. Yall boys have fun tonight. Go Rangers

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 13, 2008 7:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Laird's future

Both Salty and Teagarden disagree that he has a future here. I’m also not sure that one half season of putting up decent numbers against RHP while playing part time constitiutes average offensive ability.

We could go with him for a couple years, yes, but we’ve got more than one younger, better options, which means his time here is limited whether Salty is his replacement or not.

As for your arguement on Salty’s playing time, I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree – I’d just like to say, I’m not trying to be biased toward Salty, I’m genuinely trying to suggest what I think would be best for him.

A Lonestar in California

by lonestarJon on Jun 13, 2008 7:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thats frigging stupid

so why dont we bring up elvis, kennil, beavan and just let them work on stuff at the MAJOR LEAGUE LEVEL

by blueballlefty on Jun 13, 2008 6:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its getting

hard to defend his throwing

Please forgive any and all typos, mispellings, etc.
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by red shoe ranger on Jun 13, 2008 6:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FUCK!!

"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley

by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 6:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WTF is Duran doing

"I'll take Clemens over Millwood and Padilla anyday.." - bosoxsiempregirl

^^^^ Wow, I would too. I guess that makes me the next John Schuerholtz.

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by hinduplaya on Jun 13, 2008 6:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CRAP!

Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever. - Lance Armstrong

by esme on Jun 13, 2008 6:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this is a

loooooooooong inning.

long enough that i might have to flip over and see what Tigers up to

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by red shoe ranger on Jun 13, 2008 6:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

multi-tasking

just made two birdies in a row, now +1

If you want some slack, bring your own rope.

by rangerfaninva on Jun 13, 2008 6:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I bet he

makes a third here in a minute

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by red shoe ranger on Jun 13, 2008 6:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sigh.

I’m ready to turn this off.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 13, 2008 6:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, SHIT!

Glad I’m going out for dinner here in a bit.

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by lisa w on Jun 13, 2008 6:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Duran

looked like he noodle armed it over to first.

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 6:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Holy smokes

I get home and turn the game on, and jump right into a god-awful inning. Wonderful.

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by lonestarJon on Jun 13, 2008 6:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wash's

Rangers are back….

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by red shoe ranger on Jun 13, 2008 6:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

-1, no.

Don’t blame everything on him, it makes me mad.

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by miles on Jun 13, 2008 6:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On the plus side...

...we’ll get to see Rupe or Tejeda tonight…

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 13, 2008 6:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I remember

When I was excited to watch Tejeda pitch.

by brettgardner on Jun 13, 2008 6:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not anymore

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 6:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Me too

Him and Edinson. That went right down the shitter (aside: I’m great with Josh, just sayin).

JD drinks the Angels milkshake.

by WyoRanger on Jun 13, 2008 6:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The way this is going

Probably gonna see both

"I'll take Clemens over Millwood and Padilla anyday.." - bosoxsiempregirl

^^^^ Wow, I would too. I guess that makes me the next John Schuerholtz.

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by hinduplaya on Jun 13, 2008 6:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Grant thinks Tejeda...

...will be DFA’d tomorrow to make room for Gabbard…

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 13, 2008 6:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I foresee

a future diary regarding how Tejeda is dominating in anoiher teams uniform….just add him to the list.

along those lines did I hear RA Dickey is starting tonight?

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by red shoe ranger on Jun 13, 2008 6:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea Dickey is doing well isn't he?

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 6:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i have

no idea….i just couldnt believe he was starting in the MLB

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by red shoe ranger on Jun 13, 2008 6:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shows you how bad the M's are going

If he is starting.

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 6:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was the worst 2 run inning ever

not one well hit ball. not one.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 13, 2008 6:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea not really Feldman fault

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 6:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why cant they throw it over the 1bs head

ranger pitchers take notice… he just tossed it… he didnt fire it 90 mph.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 13, 2008 6:45 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Could we please take a pitch?

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 6:45 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice Ranges article on Yahoo

Jeff Passan takes a look at the Rangers outfield situation.

Worth a read.

Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!

by DaheelzCM on Jun 13, 2008 6:46 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

read it.

i like it. nice article.

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by esme on Jun 13, 2008 6:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pretty nice stadium the Mets are building...

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^^^^ Wow, I would too. I guess that makes me the next John Schuerholtz.

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by hinduplaya on Jun 13, 2008 6:48 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It looked that way

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 6:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Way to atone Duran

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 6:49 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice play.

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by esme on Jun 13, 2008 6:51 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what.a.putt.

by Phil

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by red shoe ranger on Jun 13, 2008 6:51 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That would be funny

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 6:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice inning by Feldman

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 6:52 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thats a great inning

5 pitches

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by hinduplaya on Jun 13, 2008 6:52 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

quick inning

awesome

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by esme on Jun 13, 2008 6:53 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think

LAMF is at this game.

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by miles on Jun 13, 2008 6:54 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think your right miles

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 6:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

your vs you're

To be fair... You are a fan of School of Rock so your ability to judge anything is VASTLY overrated!!!!
~King Billy Royal, Minor League Ball

by ivysafety39 on Jun 13, 2008 6:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank you

Teach

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 6:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sorry... pet peeve... no nazi, i promise...

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by ivysafety39 on Jun 13, 2008 6:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's cool NP

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 6:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was a walk!

robbed.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 13, 2008 6:56 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did Perez

put something on that ball?

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by miles on Jun 13, 2008 6:58 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

on my way home...

is the game on FSSW again?

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by ivysafety39 on Jun 13, 2008 6:59 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

KDFI

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by miles on Jun 13, 2008 7:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No KDFI

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 7:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

jinx

1-2-3-4-5-6—7-8-9-10

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by miles on Jun 13, 2008 7:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dunno why..

...but that made me think of the ole pinball action animated sequence from seasame street…

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by ivysafety39 on Jun 13, 2008 7:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Way to hit into a DP Mike

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 7:00 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

game not on tv

in tulsa. stuck w/ yanks/stros

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NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER

by gossamer on Jun 13, 2008 7:04 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bummer

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gossamer

Is the Golden Driller still standing?

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 7:05 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh yeah

it’s over by 21st and yale (pittsburg actually)

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=21st+and+pittsburg,+tulsa&sll=36.134911,-95.922511&sspn=0.007677,0.013304&ie=UTF8&ll=36.133482,-95.93038&spn=0.001919,0.003326&t=h&z=18

hard to see clearly, the shadow shows it better than the actual image

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by gossamer on Jun 13, 2008 7:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I grew up in Drumright

I used to go see Driller games when they were affilated with the Rangers. Thanks for the pic it has been a long time.

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 7:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i drive by it

a couple times a month i guess. what’s weird is that if you are going to the ball park, even though they’re on the same block, you ain’t gonna drive by it. but i guess it’s there because of the fair grounds.

never been to drumright, but i guess it’s halfway to stillwater?

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by gossamer on Jun 13, 2008 7:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep

Little bitty place. Not really much there that is why I live in Arlington now.

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 7:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you know what would be awesome?

not swinging at crap, and TAKING SOME DAMN PITCHES

"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008

by lisa w on Jun 13, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

come oooooooooooon.

do something.

salty, i challenge you to reach base.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 13, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

These warning track outs are slowly killing me.

by Gdawg on Jun 13, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ugh

close. at least the last two ptiches have been hit fairly well.

although salty swinging at those two low pitches was annoying,

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 13, 2008 7:26 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bring him up to play first!

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 7:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Perez isn't even throwing strikes.

just throwing junk down and we have chased ever f’n one.

by Garcia on Jun 13, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Its the

only way Rudy knows.

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by miles on Jun 13, 2008 7:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep

That’s why the Rangers aren’t drawing any walks this year, right?

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 13, 2008 7:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no doubt

that’s why its so frustrating tonight.

by Garcia on Jun 13, 2008 7:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Feldman

I swear, it feels like Feldman might end the year pitching like 175 innings with a 3.90 ERA and have a record of like 4-8 or something. He has been incredibly unlucky this year.

by stephen86 on Jun 13, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 7:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thomas Diamond

31 pitches through 1 inning so far tonight. 3 walks, 2 Ks, 2 runs.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 13, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The

guy will never be a starter, he isn’t starter material. relief pitcher at the best.

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by miles on Jun 13, 2008 7:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interesting thing the Mets announcers brought up

Reyes has been sacrifice bunted over to second in the eighth inning or later three times this year and has scored none of those times.

by Inkara1 on Jun 13, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

jesus christ

this is so frustrating

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by lisa w on Jun 13, 2008 7:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No doubt

Getting old real quick.

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 7:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

please throw

someone out salty.

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by esme on Jun 13, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Feldman

isn’t helping him out any. Salty actually looks like he is making some good throws but the runner is always at the bag by the time he can even get the ball out of his glove.

by Gdawg on Jun 13, 2008 7:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know, it is worth noting

That Salty hasn’t been getting a whole lot of chances to make good throws. His pitchers always seem to be taking their sweet time delivering the ball, and teams are picking good pitches and good spots to run on him. People will just interper this comment as bias on my part, but I don’t think Salty’s throwing has been quite as bad as the stats indicate.

I’m not denying he has a big problem that needs to be fixed, I’m just saying that things seem worse than they are do to other factors.

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by lonestarJon on Jun 13, 2008 7:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not playing

does not mean he can’t work on it.
I don’t care if it’s laird or salty.

Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever. - Lance Armstrong

by esme on Jun 13, 2008 7:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

anyone it really doesn't matter

hmm I wonder if he could throw out Mo Vaughn?

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 7:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was a good throw

it was jose reyes with a large lead, good jump and on a breaking ball.

salty has certainly been bad at throwing out runners, but very few catchers throw him out on that.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 13, 2008 7:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is true

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by boomer1 on Jun 13, 2008 7:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wonder

if I could steal a base from Salty…

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by miles on Jun 13, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

where did they dig up the laptop in that dots commercial

it looks like its from the 80s.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 13, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

feldman!

woooooooooot.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 13, 2008 7:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Feldman

is a beast.

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by miles on Jun 13, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

woohoo!

Feldman.

Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever. - Lance Armstrong

by esme on Jun 13, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Feldman

beasticon?

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by lisa w on Jun 13, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pedro pitches tomorrow?

We should be able to score 20 runs fairly easily…

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by miles on Jun 13, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Scott Feldman

best jewish hitter in the majors! Suck it Braun, Youk and Kinsler.

by Agreen07 on Jun 13, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't forget

about Kapler. I actually never knew he was Jewish until he did an interview with First Take where he was asked about what him and Braun will do during Passover.

by Gdawg on Jun 13, 2008 7:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MY F'ing

sucks, terrible.

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