What is Washington thinking?
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 13, 2008 9:31 PM CDT
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Okay. Let's set the stage.
The Rangers start playing in N.L. parks today. No DH during this three game series against the Mets.
The Mets are starting Oliver Perez, Pedro Martinez, and John Maine in this series.
You've got 5 guys you've been using in the OF/DH mix -- Hamilton, Murphy, Bradley, Boggs, and Byrd. With no DH, two of those guys are going to sit in each of these three games.
Now, David Murphy has been playing every day, pretty much, this season, and has been great against RHPs. However, he's been bad against lefties -- he's hitting (before tonight's game) .241/.264/.356 against LHPs. And Oliver Perez, heading into tonight's game, was allowing lefties to hit .123/.284/.231 off of him.
So, in light of the fact that you are probably going to sit Murphy for one of the games in this series, wouldn't it make sense to sit him against Perez? Particularly when you have the righty hitting Marlon Byrd (.289/.378/.500 against LHPs) or Brandon Boggs (who has crushed LHPs throughout his minor league career, and is hitting .308/.379/.615 against them in a very limited sample in the majors), who can hit lefties and who are about as good as Murphy with the glove?
I mean, isn't that a slam-dunk?
And if you are hellbent on playing Murphy against the lefty, wouldn't it make more sense to hit him 6th or 7th, behind Jarrod Saltalamacchia and/or Chris Shelton?
Not, apparently, if you are Ron Washington. If you are Ron Washington, you roll Murphy out there, because...well, I'm not sure why. I'm sure if you were to ask, you'd get some platitude about how Murphy has been swinging the bat well and Perez is tough against hitters from both sides, but no real explanation. I wouldn't guess that there is a real reason, other than, well, Murphy is the starter.
But here's what is so infuriating about this...if Murphy is so good, so valuable, so important to have in the lineup, why in the hell would you do a double-switch and take him out of the game in the 6th inning, down 3 runs, and put Marlon Byrd in the game? If you are going to do that, if he isn't important enough to not be double-switched out, then why not just start Byrd from the outset?
I just don't get this. Murphy shouldn't be playing everyday...he should be sitting against the majority of lefties, given this team's composition. And when he plays against lefties, he's got no business hitting 5th. A tough lefty will just pitch around Milton Bradley -- who is crushing lefties this season -- to get to Murphy.
And Murphy sure as hell shouldn't be starting against a LHP who has allowed 8 hits to lefties all season, in a National League park, when that means relegating Boggs and Byrd to the bench.
Particularly when, most likely, Murphy is going to end up sitting one of the games of the series this week anyway. I am willing to bet that Murphy is on the bench against either Maine or Martinez -- both righthanders -- this weekend. And there will be no good explanation forthcoming as to why he is sitting against one of them, rather than Perez.
I'm not in the crowd that thinks Washington is incompetent. I think he's been a disappointing hire, but I don't think Trey Hillman or John Russell or any of the other candidates would be doing significantly better. I think he catches too much flak about certain things.
But then, there's something that is so basic, so obvious, that he just whiffs on, and it makes me wonder what, exactly, he's thinking about out there, and what Art Howe -- his bench coach, the experienced former manager who is supposed to be providing input on this stuff -- is thinking.
It is maddening.
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i was reading this article:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ai5anbI34KK.xSnHnJDNoNoRvLYF?slug=jp-rangersoutfield061308&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
and it made me wonder, wash going to bat for MB before this season makes up for the fact that wash went to bat for BB, right?
i guess you never wanna piss away 4.5M or whatever but out of those 2 guys one has turned into a guy who should bag us major return, or at the minimum multiple type A picks…
cant really complain about that even if he did get us BB as well.
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by Jayslick on Jun 13, 2008 9:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i don't think that was the point
and it could affect the game that murphy is going to sit for
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by ab03 on Jun 13, 2008 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hard to argue
i think people are too quick to call out wash but i’m having a hard time justifying not sitting murphy at all. something about confidence – willing your guys to play beyond their platoons despite what all of the evidence says.
i dunno.
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by ab03 on Jun 13, 2008 10:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm guessing you would have
benched Ortiz a lot early in his career. No need for him to practice hitting lefties, because he couldn’t, might as well have branded him a platoon player at that time.
by Longhorn on Jun 13, 2008 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
by that logic
no one should be platooned ever, even for specific games. they just need practice.
by tangiers on Jun 13, 2008 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wrong
ou can call a rookie a platoon player, i won’t. And, also, what is wrong with going up there against lefties, especially this year where everyone keeps reminding me that it’s a ‘rebuilding year’. Didn’t he hit a GS off a lefty earlier this week?
by Longhorn on Jun 13, 2008 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its not that
noone wants him hitting lefties, its just there are ovious situations were he needed a day off anyway and we were playing a lefty that had given up EIGHT hits to lefties all year anybody with half a brain would recognize this is a perfect time to sit him
by blueballlefty on Jun 13, 2008 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
perez's BAA
is basically the same for lefties as it is for righties in his career. but i suppose a half a yr sample size is better than a 7 yr one.
by Longhorn on Jun 13, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
Neither lefties nor righties have hit him real well over the course of his career, although righties have had more success.
However…he’s not pitched well this year, and that is due almost entirely to him being lit up by righthanders.
However you want to couch the issue, starting Murphy today, instead of Boggs or Byrd, was dumb.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 13, 2008 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm confused...
Why are you so adament about sitting Murphy AJM? I see no reason to sit Murphy ever at this point. I know Boggs needs some playing time, but let me ask you something, when a guy is playing as good as Murph has been this year, why would you sit him? Let him bat against the tough guys and get some reps against them. If he fails, then he has a better idea of how to face them later on. You can’t expect him to get any better if he never has a chance to go out and face those types of pitches. And as it was said above, this is a rebuilding year, so why not let your future players get better where their weaknesses are concerned? He’s not a guy who is a career platoon player, I guarantee you that. He’s got Rusty Greer potential, which I definitely see him living up to in the future.
Now if you wanna talk dumb, not pinch-hitting Milton Bradley the other night, THAT was dumb.
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by utlonghorn24 on Jun 14, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to go all Jim Mora on you
But the answer to your question is BECAUSE YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!!!
Seriously.
Playing a guy who can’t hit lefties against a lefty-slayer is just dumb. Batting him in the 5th slot is super king kong mega mega dumb.
And I don’t know you can guarantee me that the Mosquito isn’t a career platoon player. I like him and I want him to do well, but the odds are still that he’s overperforming in general, and that he’ll never hit lefties.
I hope I’m wrong, as the guy has really been a joy to watch as he keeps proving his doubters wrong, but objectively there’s a lot more reason to believe he’s a 4th OF than there is to suggest he’s Rusty Greer Redux.
A fist bump? A pound? A terrorist fist jab?
by thedirkatron on Jun 14, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
you would hate david ortiz too.
Stats don't lie
by Longhorn on Jun 14, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Por Que?
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by thedirkatron on Jun 14, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would sit him...
...because he doesn’t hit lefties, you’ve got guys available to can hit lefties, and I don’t think having him hit a bunch of lefties this year is likely to make him serviceable against lefties in the future.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 14, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What this does contradict, though
is the notion that lineups “don’t have that much effect” or “don’t really matter” that much. That egregious pitching around of Bradley has exposed the team. Who bats 5th against lefties seems very important to me and possibly 6th place, too: protection of Bradley being the main point.
Unfortunately, Wash doesn’t seem too concerned with making the proper lineup decisions to win.
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by Chase Irwin on Jun 14, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he doesn't?
His career numbers beg to differ….
Stats don't lie
by Longhorn on Jun 14, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buck
did that exact thing with Blalock and Blalock hit .300 against lefties last year, so i guess it didnt stunt his growth against lefties, the hardest thing for a young lefty to do against a left handed pitcher is layoff the slider/curveball away, so it does make sense that a young left handed hitter would be less patient early in his career and then later on learn to layoff that stuff and be more effective
by blueballlefty on Jun 13, 2008 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hank
Yeah, he hit .298. He did that with a babip almost 60 points higher than his babip v. righties (read: he got a little lucky). He slugged 150 points lower v. lefties leading to an ops of .796 v. lefties and .932 v. righties.
I wouldn’t exactly call batting Blalock against lefties a success last year.
by BAC on Jun 14, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you an Idiot
you dont expect lefties to with as much power against lefties, but what you want is for them to get the bat on the ball.
by blueballlefty on Jun 14, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 14, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm actually not saying that it was a bad thing
that murphy gets playing time against lefties. And, this is the definition of a player’s coach – believing in your guys against the numbers.
I just think that this situation, where murphy is going to get a day off anyway, you might as well rest him against the lefty. You know he’s going to be worse against the lefty, without admitting that he absolutely can’t hit lefties.
of course, maybe its the case that he wants murphy to get practice against lefties as you say. I guess I wouldn’t do it that way but I’m not so opposed to wash doing it either. i’m also not going to vociferously defend him on this
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by ab03 on Jun 13, 2008 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
I was thinking the same god damned thing.
This mirrors the Sideshow fiasco from last year where R-Was refused to platoon Sammy, despite ample evidence that Sammy could no longer be expected to hit RHP’ers.
I too think Wash gets too much shit from people for stuff he really has no control over (errors, for example), but I’m beginning to think his major flaw is that he’s too attached to his players. He doesn’t want to hurt their feelings. Murphy is a “starter”, and to platoon him now would be a difficult thing for Wash to do to Murphy. But God damn it, it must be freaking done.
A fist bump? A pound? A terrorist fist jab?
by thedirkatron on Jun 13, 2008 10:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
One of the scout threads on the Mets board was making fun of RW double switch aswell.
The funny thing was they were questioning the move of pulling Murphy, not the fact that he should have never started
by laxtonto on Jun 13, 2008 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont you greatly anticipate blalock-murphy 5-6?
that will be fun v lefties.
Bring up Justin Smoak
by DSheppard on Jun 13, 2008 10:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Particularly when...
...you’ve got Hamilton 3rd, and the switch-hitting Bradley hitting 4th.
Teams with a couple of decent lefties in the pen will be able to shut the Rangers down in the late innings.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 13, 2008 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or teams with a couple...
lefty starters will be able to shut down the Rangers for a series.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 13, 2008 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Noticed Art Howe also getting
tossed under the bus during the AJM rant.
Did Wakamatsu also get the same treatment when Buck was managing?
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by Josey Wales on Jun 13, 2008 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wakamatsu also...
...wasn’t brought in to be Buck’s veteran voice and assistant on the in-game details.
Just because Howe once managed for the Great Billy Beane doesn’t make him immune from criticism.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 14, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there is no
way Wash or who ever is here can do that they will have to move murphy to 7th and put Laird/Salty batting 6th, IMO
by blueballlefty on Jun 13, 2008 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's sick
but at least that gets Murphy out of the 5th spot.
by FirebatM3 on Jun 13, 2008 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AJM
I totally agree with your point, I think the way Wash has handled the Murphy situation along with the Bullpen is going to be his downfall, I dont know if he is overthinking it or he just makes dumbass decisions sometimes, I also think he needs to learn to trust his starters a little more.
by blueballlefty on Jun 13, 2008 10:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Amen.
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I’ll give ya something.
1. A backhand
2. A stuffing
3. $500 if you promise never to post here again"
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by Chase Irwin on Jun 13, 2008 10:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nitpicking
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by iorange555 on Jun 13, 2008 10:53 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I am surprised so
many are backing Wash on starting Murphy. Murphy and Byrd should be platooning in the OF.
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by RangerMad on Jun 13, 2008 11:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
You couldn’t ask for a more perfect platoon than Byrd/Murphy.
A fist bump? A pound? A terrorist fist jab?
by thedirkatron on Jun 13, 2008 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poh-tay-toe, poh-tah-toe
Though I was thinking that Byrd/Murphy could platoon in RF/CF while Boggs played in LF… switching out there with Bradley as matchups and Bradley’s knees dictate.
I guess my main point is that we have a number of different OF alignments we could throw out there, and starting Murphy versus lefties is not one of them.
A fist bump? A pound? A terrorist fist jab?
by thedirkatron on Jun 13, 2008 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+6 or whatever
That is not me in the photo, so relax.
by rldwb on Jun 14, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see...
that many backing Wash on anything. I support him on many things but this is not a smart move.
I know some people here think Murphy is the next Rusty Greer and he has had a great year so far, but he should sit against the majority of lefties. It does no good to have Boggs and Byrd on the roster if Murphy is going to play everyday.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 14, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that it would affect the game
With Perez having a very good start, but yes the logic is absolutely correct. Murphy can hit lefties whose out pitch is a fastball. Not so much lefties who tease with the FB and dump batters with the slider. That alone should have been considered in the matchups profile for this game. Maybe Boggs would have been a better starting choice, but even he tends to hit stuff up in the zone, not so much the knee surgery OP was throwing.
Anyhow, the topical item is on a good premise. Murphy (bless his heart) promised, and turned out to be, badly matched.
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by Ed Coffin on Jun 13, 2008 11:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well I beg to differ
I think it very much would have impacted the game, considering Perez was able to blatantly pitch around Bradley with two men on and two outs, knowing there was no way in hell the Mosquito was going to do anything other than flail at 3 straight pitches for the K.
A hit there (or even the vaguest threat of a hit there) completely changes the complexion of the game.
A fist bump? A pound? A terrorist fist jab?
by thedirkatron on Jun 13, 2008 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In that situation
Possibly so. I was thinking that OP was just as effective against RHB (Kinsler, Young, Shelton, Salty) as anyone else. But yeah, he did seem to work around Bradley. Point is, he was “on” enough to get out of about any trouble.
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by Ed Coffin on Jun 14, 2008 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Rangers got
three hits off Perez. All by lefthanded hitters.:
by Jea103 on Jun 14, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Misleading...
the only position player to get a hit was Hamilton. The other hit was by Feldman.
Look at how the Rangers have struggled with LHP this year. This is a great lineup, but the one thing they really need is another big RH bat.
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by slc ranger on Jun 14, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF you feel that compelled
to start Murphy v. Perez you don’t hit him 5th but with Ron Washington as manager you come to expect dipshit moves along with sloppy baseball (two more errors tonight).
I don’t understand why AJM is throwing John Russell under the bus…without doing any research on the topic I would guess the Pirates are doing better this year after 68 games (33-35) than they have in a very long time.
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by Josey Wales on Jun 13, 2008 11:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone
notice how washington PREECHES defense and pitching yet we are last in both categories
by nice hands on Jun 14, 2008 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GOOD NEWS
Angels lost.
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by iorange555 on Jun 13, 2008 11:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Its ok...
Pedro Martinez is starting tomorrow..
I’ll be surprised if he lasts 4 innings.
That guy is done, one of the worst free agent signings in the history of MLB.
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by miles on Jun 13, 2008 11:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And Wash will
probably start Byrd and Laird.
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by RangerMad on Jun 13, 2008 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't forget
about the automatic out Chris Shelton too
by dcoy on Jun 14, 2008 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't jinx it dude take it back and say
“pedro will throw a no-hitter.”
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by iorange555 on Jun 13, 2008 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a boring ass game..
Well I was glad that I got to see Shea Stadium in its last year but besides that the Rangers looked a bit flat.
Hammy hit one wayyyyy up the scoreboard in batting practice, which is quite a distance.
He also was the only Ranger to sign autographs and was swamped by a mob of Mets fans holding Sports Illustrated. He signed for like 25 minutes. I guess all the other guys can’t be bothered. What a nice guy he seems to be.
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by LAMuscleFag on Jun 14, 2008 12:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
does anyone know
why gabbard is getting to start again????
in his 2 starts in AAA he wen 12 2/3 innings and let in 7 ER. you have to be kidding me??
by nice hands on Jun 14, 2008 12:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Who else do you go to?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 14, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he went to AAA to get his control back under... control.
4 walks in 12 1/3 was apparently an adequate improvement.
Bring up Justin Smoak
by DSheppard on Jun 14, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
jamey's last report is kind of funny
juxtaposed against this post
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by ab03 on Jun 14, 2008 1:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone remember
When Ron decided he was gonna throw Ben Broussard out there full-time, despite the fact that Broussard was a noted career platoon player, with a .225 career average against lefties? Well, this sounds like the same deal with Murphy.
I’m not sure whether Ron Washington doesn’t know what split stats mean, or if he just doesn’t care, but I’m absoutely positive that half the posters on this site would manage the roster better than he can.
Just for fun, lets take a moment to review the managerial skills he has shown this season:
Upsides:
-Nice guy
-Players like to work with him
Downsides:
-Can’t manage his lineup
-Can’t manage his bullpen
-Can’t manage his other in game decisions, like pinch-hitters, bunts, ext.
-Doesn’t have the balls to protect his players from the umpires (unless their name is Milton Bradley, that is)
-His infield defense coaching of players like Hank Blalock, Ian Kinsler, and Jarrod Saltalamacchia (who he tried to teach first base last year, remember?) has gone nowhere.
So: beyond his people skills there is basically nothing that makes him a Major League-caliber manager. And yet Matt Walbeck, the 2007 minor league manager of the year is standing over at the third base line. WHY IS THIS??
by lonestarJon on Jun 14, 2008 9:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I finally agree with Jon
That is not me in the photo, so relax.
by rldwb on Jun 14, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe Wash
thought that double switch meant taking out your doubles leader…
by tangiers on Jun 14, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He thinks?
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by LAMuscleFag on Jun 14, 2008 9:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He is
therefore he thinks …
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I’ll give ya something.
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2. A stuffing
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by Chase Irwin on Jun 14, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Facts of Your Argument
I agree with your position on Murphy being the lineup last night especially from a purely factual basis.
Since we are not really contenders and should not even try to be (as many say here), letting him play when he is on a hot streak becomes more reasonable.
Another factor involved is whether we think he is a 4th outfielder instead of a potential starter. I’m not sure why anyone pretends to know whether Murphy has finally found his niche and will continue to produce or whether he will return to historical form. Being a young player, it is only a guess which way it will go. If he has long-tern starter potential, he needs to get in a lot of hacks against left handers for further development.
Of course, Perez has been really tough on lefty hitters this year, but it is not quite as ridiculous as is being made out to have Murphy play when he is pitching if Murphy is considered a long term answer in the outfield.
by mcgee48c on Jun 14, 2008 11:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No Way Murphy should have started last night
That was my first thought upon seeing the lineup, Perez is deadly to the average lefty (Hamilton excluded) I would have started Byrd or Boggs, I have said most of the season with all of the bone headed lineups Washington has put out there that he really has no idea how to be a Manager, he is a good coach no doubt, but manager i don’t think so, he is a teacher not a leader.
by TRFAN on Jun 14, 2008 11:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Anybody hear Norm the other day
I was listening to Norm and he was talking Rangers. What floored me was he was saying that protection doesn’t come from the guy hitting behind you it comes from whos in front of you. He was discussing the potential trade of Bradley and what it would do to the lineup. Freido said without Bradley, Hamilton has no protection and wouldn’t be doing as good as he has. Norm was saying that Kinsler and Young are the ones protecting Hammy not Bradley. I was floored. I consider Norm to be a very smart sports guy but this absolutely amazed me that he could think that.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 14, 2008 6:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well if Kinsler and Young
are doing their job [getting on base], then you won’t be able to pitch around Hamilton as much, so I understand that side of it.
The problem is, the majority of the time you will be able to pitch around Hamilton, if you need to, unless M.O.B. or a similar caliber of hitter is behind.
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I’ll give ya something.
1. A backhand
2. A stuffing
3. $500 if you promise never to post here again"
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by Chase Irwin on Jun 14, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Double Switch...
I was listening to the game via the Mets broadcasters on XM while driving to Austin. They were ranting and laughing about what a over-managing move the doublw switch was. Especially given the fact that as soon as Byrd hit in what was the pitchers spot, RW pulled Rupe and went to Tejeda anyway. So, in essence he could have just left Rupe in the 9 hole and PH Byrd and gone to Tejeda to start the next inning and left his starting LFer in. Dumb, dumb, mind numbingly dumb move…
I didn’t read every post in this thread, sorry if this was already posted…
by Topgun22 on Jun 14, 2008 10:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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