Lone Star Ball: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Sports blogs for fans, by fans.
New Blog: The Boxing Bulletin for Boxing Fans!

Neftali Feliz is pretty good

Today's line for Neftali Feliz...

5 1/3 IP, 1 hit, 3 walks, 11 Ks, 1 ER. 

He's now got a 2.24 ERA on the season, 83 Ks in 61 1/3 IP, and just 24 walks and 1 -- ONE -- home run allowed.

 

0 recs  |  Comment 119 comments

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

so

does this finally convince people that he should be a starter?

"I am a Doug Mathis believer." -dstar442005 on 6-9-08

by dstar442005 on Jun 14, 2008 1:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think he's got great potential

but the only thing that will convince me for a fact that he is a future ace is if he is doing this using his secondary pitches.

by Gdawg on Jun 14, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not only his fastball

HIs fastball is a legit plus pitch and is obviously too good for the league but his secondary pitches have improved. He isn’t just throwing 90 fastballs a game.

by jparks77 on Jun 14, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand

but the only real test IMO is to challenge him in the upper levels with those pitches. Its easier to make it look like his secondary pitches are good against weaker competition. I’d love to see him get tested in Bakersfield already.

by Gdawg on Jun 14, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Secondary Pitches

Does anyone know what he throws? Probably a changeup and slider pitcher, but i was just wondering.

baseBALLIN!

by kevzta on Jun 14, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That guy

is for real.

When will he be promoted?

"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos

by miles on Jun 14, 2008 1:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Feliz

My gosh we got a ton of players from the Braves.

Fire Ron Washington

by pblack on Jun 14, 2008 1:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

#1

Our prospect ranking polls are going to be extremely enjoyable this summer.

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 14, 2008 1:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

serious case can be made

for so many people. That is an awesome problem to have.

Go Vote for Kinsler, Young, Hamilton, Bradley and write in Murphy. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2008/ballot_reg.html - Vote up to 25 times on as many email accounts as you can think of!

by tdi1985 on Jun 14, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last year

thedirkatron (our semi-official poller on this subject) started the mid-season poll on July 4. I’m sure we’ll do it again.

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 14, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"Typical woman. 'Give me' 'Give me' 'Give me'

I’ll give ya something.

1. A backhand
2. A stuffing
3. $500 if you promise never to post here again"

~ The Immortal, BG

by Chase Irwin on Jun 14, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Somebody did a poll for top pitching prospect

Either before the season or during April sometime, didn’t they?

by lonestarJon on Jun 14, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh

The D-tron takes it back to the lab!

"Typical woman. 'Give me' 'Give me' 'Give me'

I’ll give ya something.

1. A backhand
2. A stuffing
3. $500 if you promise never to post here again"

~ The Immortal, BG

by Chase Irwin on Jun 14, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good grief

1.35 strikeouts per inning is strong stuff. 0.39 walks per inning is pretty OK as well. About 3.5 to 1 K to BB.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Jun 14, 2008 1:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I want to see him in Bakersfield after the break,

Hopefully he can get close to that strikeout total in a higher league.

by psmitty on Jun 14, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pitch count

Does anyone know if he’s on a pitch count limit? He never seems to go beyond 6 innings. Are we holding him back or is he just throwing a lot of pitches?

by chase1971 on Jun 14, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wasn’t he splitting games with Castillo earlier?

by Keynes on Jun 14, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

IP

How long do you think they will let him pitch this year?

This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC

by nikpin on Jun 14, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kiker plan

Perhaps slightly north of 100 innings

Just a guess.

by jparks77 on Jun 14, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoever it was that had him at #1 in the offseason was on to something

with this many guys at A ball… dont the odds finally have to be in our favor that a copule will pan out

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 14, 2008 1:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Goldstein

is regarded for his time at BA and all, but I’m not sure that any prospect “guru” in recent years has had his reputation so attached with a prospect…or has picked such a good person with whom to attach his rep. At least this last year others were at least ranking him well. The year before that, Goldstein had him as a top three (with guys like Salty, Andrus, Escobar and Harrison prominent in the system)in the Braves system and a top 100 guy. BA ranked him 18th in Atlanta’s system.

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the kid is...

just SICK!

now…go work on your secondary pitches!

by 8legs2fangs on Jun 14, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Feliz

How can he not see Bakersfield this year?

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jun 14, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sweet

now someone tell Rhyner he’s not Neftali Perez.

Not the only black poster on LSB.

by sprite on Jun 14, 2008 2:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

Rhyner also thought that Hurley was 24 and a 3rd round pick.

by LiamP on Jun 14, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And yet

the other guys on that station think he’s the go-to guy for info. Embarrassing situation.

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"Typical woman. 'Give me' 'Give me' 'Give me'

I’ll give ya something.

1. A backhand
2. A stuffing
3. $500 if you promise never to post here again"

~ The Immortal, BG

by Chase Irwin on Jun 14, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair

On THAT station he probably is when it comes to baseball. I guess Norm might be but I haven’t been able to stomach listening to him in about 5 years so I don’t know.

Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!

by DaheelzCM on Jun 14, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Norm

is the prototypical type who has the information but not the sense to interpret it correctly. He fools people who don’t have nuanced understanding with facts, but can’t use them to draw the logical, appropriate conclusion. Chuck Cooperstein has a little of that problem as well.

But you’re right, if someone said “Neftali Feliz (or Perez)” those two and Sturm would be the only ones who could tell you who he is, and Mike could probably tell you more (if you could filter through the false info) than the other two.

At least Sturm reads these boards, so he has some shot at having a little better idea of getting the whole picture.

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way Sturm knows who he is

Not a knock on Bob but he is too busy watching soccer, Kige Ramsey videos, and MMA to have any idea who a 20 year old in A ball is.

Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!

by DaheelzCM on Jun 14, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hah

I bet he does. Maybe someone should email him and see if he knows who Feliz is off hand just out of curiosity.

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll do it

what email address

"Typical woman. 'Give me' 'Give me' 'Give me'

I’ll give ya something.

1. A backhand
2. A stuffing
3. $500 if you promise never to post here again"

~ The Immortal, BG

by Chase Irwin on Jun 14, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Done

I’ll reply to this spot in this thread if I get a response.

"Typical woman. 'Give me' 'Give me' 'Give me'

I’ll give ya something.

1. A backhand
2. A stuffing
3. $500 if you promise never to post here again"

~ The Immortal, BG

by Chase Irwin on Jun 14, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

rhyner

yeah i cringe everytime they start talking prospects on the hardline….they have NO clue

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 14, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I'm not mistaken...

Thats 68 1/3 IP, just 44 hits. I’m thinkin he is in Bak after the AS game.

by groundingout on Jun 14, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

.188 oppoenents BA

That’s great.

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can we go ahead and enact some kind of no trade clause

in his agreement? It’s for JD’s own good. I don’t want to be grooming another potential young star for another team.

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on Jun 14, 2008 2:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

but I dont think we’ve ever had a pitching prospect like this.

by rchawk12 on Jun 14, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree.

Volquez and Danks of the DVD posse show we clearly did. They had the minor league hype and have had the major league results so far.

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on Jun 14, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree too

I don’t think Danks or Volquez ever had the potential that Feliz does. Volquez had the stuff, but I don’t think he was as advanced as Feliz was at the same age and level. The walks were both a bit higher than you would like, but Feliz is showing an absolute hatred for giving up the long ball and is barely allowing any hits against him. Volquez didn’t show the same as a 20, going on 21 year old in Clinton (remember that Feliz turned 20 in May). Danks isn’t even in the discussion as having the same potential as either of them. He’s a great pitcher, but he doesn’t have the same dominating stuff that Volquez and potentially Feliz can have.

by Gdawg on Jun 14, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are right that Danks didn't have the potential

or electric stuff of the other two, but Volquez did. Volquez had a 2.5 BB/K ratio; 1.2 WHIP; 3.69 ERA and gave up 37 HR in 556 minor league innings. That may not be quite what Feliz has done in a short time, but its pretty electric in itself, especially since that includes AA and AAA work.

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on Jun 14, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This wasnt meant to be a slight

on previous rangers pitching prospects. I think its hard to argue any other rangers pitching prospect in recent memory when stacked up against feliz’s stuff and production combined with his age.

by rchawk12 on Jun 14, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree very few could stack up

but Volquez did. Control problems?... yea, some. Electric stuff?... yep.

I hope Feliz develops into a star, and hopefully he will. He’s gonna have some growing pains and tough times, too.

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on Jun 14, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But

you can look at what Volquez did and at what age in Clinton and compare it what Feliz has done in Clinton so far and before now as well. I don’t know what the future holds for Feliz, but so far, I think he projects to be better than Volquez did around the same time.

by Gdawg on Jun 14, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps....

...but I don’t think it can be said that there never has been a pitching prospect like this guy. It’s not that far and away clear. He’s only in low level ball. Let’s wait and see.

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on Jun 14, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The guy has the top potential

of just any prospect in recent Rangers history outside of maybe Volquez, and again when you compare what the two did at Clinton (not even taking into account Volquez being about a year older than Feliz at the time), Feliz has the stats hands down over Volquez. The stuff might be as good though I think Feliz’s fastball gives him the edge.

by Gdawg on Jun 14, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand your point about the comparison and Feliz's favorable stats.

I’m saying comparing A ball pitching stats and annointing someone the best prospect ever is too early. Again, we’ll see how he handles the increased competition. Let’s hold off on the annointing oil for now, but things are on the up for him so far….

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on Jun 14, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why are

you slighting Cobra Lewis????

:)

Please forgive any and all typos, mispellings, etc.
Your kindess in this matter is appreciated.

by red shoe ranger on Jun 14, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

volquez was not as advanced as feliz at such a young age, plus he gave up a lot of walks. Control was always an issue with him until this year and he still gives up more walks than you would like. Plus nationally DVD was not ranked all that highly, whereas Feliz could easily be a top 25 prospect as soon as next year, maybe even higher.

by rchawk12 on Jun 14, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's All Just Potential

until they arrive to the Bigs.
Danks, Young, Volquez, et al: A lot of good signs in the minors, but not enough to make certain that they’d be major-league successes. Currently, they are. Tomorrow?
Hurley, Feliz, et al: Showed/have shown good signs in the minors. Hurley looked solid in debut, but gave up homers. May crash here, and succeed elsewhere. Who knows?

My point: Until they get to the majors and get their feet wet for a year or two, you really only have indicators, not evidence. Some guys take to it; others choke. Hugely mental.

A pitcher’s future success is an educated guess, at best.
A pitcher’s continued and consistent success is a rarity.

"lol " - CI

by Clueless on Jun 14, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on Jun 14, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll say this

We haven’t had a prospect with a fastball like his. He doesn’t have a second pitch like Volquez’ change, and he hasn’t had the time to develop the overall package that Danks did, but just in terms of that absolutely dominant fastball with every component of velocity, movement, etc., we haven’t had one like this. Maybe Robb Nen is the closest in the last 20 or so years?

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Davis

If a top 100 prospect list came out today.

Where would Chris Davis be?

by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 14, 2008 2:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he'd have to be

Great power potential, appears to have significantly improved his plate discipline, and is already in AAA so there is less flame out potential.

by Gdawg on Jun 14, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It all depends on whether

his AAA numbers hold up, but if they do I think he belongs in the 20s somewhere.

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

feliz

he’s got to be due for a promotion soon right?

if his slider has progressed and he can even develop an average change, thats devastating mixed with his fastball

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 14, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My goodness...

All I see is potentail ace when this kid pitches. As others have stated he needs to work on his secondary pitches, but what 20 year old doesn’t. He needs to be in A+ ball by July 1st imo.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 14, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Best fastball in minor league baseball should be in A+ before the year is over.

"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos

by miles on Jun 14, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beasticon and Junior Mayberry.

Beasticon – 2-4

Junior Mayberry – 3-4 with a double and a HR.

by coolaid on Jun 14, 2008 3:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

cruz just left the game with an injury...

hope hes ok… he still needs one more shot. potential is just too high.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 14, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

davis

flew out to center and the ball is shown as over the fence in gameday, heh. guess he hit it pretty well at least.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 14, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT -- El Tigre

Who thinks Tiger is going to win the US open?

I got my money on Tiger.

by coolaid on Jun 14, 2008 4:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's like betting on

a two legged man to beat a one legged fattie in a footrace.

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on Jun 14, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

volquez is dominating the sox

2 unearned runs through 5 though. or at least they should both be unearned runs, i dont know how you give a wild pitch on a perfectly catchable low changeup.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 14, 2008 4:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I saw that

... ridiculous scoring from the home crew.

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on Jun 14, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wakefield dominating the Reds more though

54 pitches through 5 innings, one run allowed, and 3 hits and 2 BBs.

by Gdawg on Jun 14, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

his final line should have been

7 ip 1 era 9 ks. pretty sweet.
the one legit earned run involved an infield single and slow roller between short and 3rd.

im only bringing him up since he happened to be on national tv today though and i was watching, not harping on the trade.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 14, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think its

sad that people feel like they have to qualify Volquez observations and discussion….

Please forgive any and all typos, mispellings, etc.
Your kindess in this matter is appreciated.

by red shoe ranger on Jun 14, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"Typical woman. 'Give me' 'Give me' 'Give me'

I’ll give ya something.

1. A backhand
2. A stuffing
3. $500 if you promise never to post here again"

~ The Immortal, BG

by Chase Irwin on Jun 14, 2008 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the best part of his line.....

1 walk!

Please forgive any and all typos, mispellings, etc.
Your kindess in this matter is appreciated.

by red shoe ranger on Jun 14, 2008 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mid season top 100 lists

He’ll be on them, but if KG does one, how high will Feliz be on his?Surely top 20, higher?

by groundingout on Jun 14, 2008 4:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe 15-20 range?

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right now

I think that Feliz has to be our #1 prospect. He’s way down the ladder, yes, but he looks special, and Smoak and Davis have things to prove themselves. But I think that’s how I’d go, 1. Feliz 2. Smoak 3. Davis with Ramirez, Main, Beavan, Hurley, Andrus, Kiker next and all solid top 100 candidates. Teagarden, Beltre, Mayberry, etc., yeah it will be fun to go through and rank them this summer.

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 4:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So...

With Feliz, Smoak, and Davis, we’ve got 3 top 30 prospects, you think?

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 14, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I were predicting

I’d say that, at least in BA, we won’t see 3 of the top 30 next spring, but I think that Smoak will be top 30, and I think that as we stand now Feliz and Davis both have the opportunity to be ranked that high if they have similar 2nd halfs.

The least likely is probably Feliz. For all of the claims that BA favors lower level guys, I don’t really find it to be true these days (like in the case with Feliz that I mentioned). I think for him to rank that high he’d have to promote to HA and continue to dominate. Could happen though.

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why wouldn't

you put Ramirez at 2?

He is way more proven than a college hitter who hasn’t seen an AB in the minors yet.

"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos

by miles on Jun 14, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a legitimate question

I love his bat, but the reason that you probably won’t see him there is that scouts probably still won’t project his bat to be as good as the 1Bs.

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

Id have to go

1) Feliz
2a)Davis
2b)Ramirez
2c)Smoak
5) Beavan

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 14, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zywica...

no concerns about Beavan’s lack of velo so far?

I’d go Feliz, Smoak, Max, Andrus, Davis

by groundingout on Jun 14, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure

Just relative, as he’s only nine starts into his season and has been working on mechanics. I think we just have to see how things go over more time.

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

High 80s with the occasional low 90s

I think at this point he needs to continue to learn how to pitch and not just to throw it past people like he was able to get away with in HS. His velocity should increase as he becomes more comfortable with his motion.

by jparks77 on Jun 14, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do we have a shot at being considered the #1 farm system?

Another good draft, so far a lot of guys are elevating their status, etc..

Maybe if we get a good return on a couple deadline deals?

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 14, 2008 5:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tampa

Price
McGee
Hellickson
Jennings
Beckham

I’d bet we have the two spot locked down.

by jparks77 on Jun 14, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Davis, Brignac…

I having studied their system lately, but I wonder if we don’t at least have the depth advantage now. But yeah we’re right there for #2 with, I don’t know, probably Boston (though they’re seeing Buccholz, Ellsbury, Masterson and probably Lowrie promote). I don’t think that the Yankees have enough bats, and they lost their super stud Joba (and IPK). The top of Baltimore’s system has really improved, but I don’t think their depth compares with ours.

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry, haven’t studied…

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think that was ever an outrageous statement to make.

Every analysis of our farm system noted that we had the deepest farm system but were hurt by the lack of elite prospects.

by LiamP on Jun 14, 2008 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep. I know I’ve been saying since the fall of 2006 that you could see that developing. The bigger positive development to me is that some of these guys like Davis have really become elite types. A year ago in, say, May you couldn’t really point to anyone as an elite prospect.

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have the depth

but I still think they have the quality advantage. Price is probably the player that puts them over the top.

by jparks77 on Jun 14, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be honest I’m not sure that we stack up real well across the top 7-8. If you took two or three away from them, we’d look good. But I’d have a hard time picking any of our prospects over Beckham either, and maybe Davis (and maybe McGee). They just look better at the top than Texas to me, which is nothing to be ashamed of.

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Davis and McGee

what do you think about their relatively slow starts this year?

by FirebatM3 on Jun 14, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

McGee’s concerns me more (not that I’m completely sure why). If you take out his next to most recent start, Davis has actually been just fine this year. With McGee, he seems to be really struggling mixing three pitches and commanding them. He has that FB from the left side, so he’s still exciting, but he would worry me some right now, just from his stat lines and the few quotes I’ve found.

Davis hasn’t necessarily stepped up and become a top ten prospect and a pretty quick promotion like he seemed on the way to doing last year, but I just don’t find myself being disturbed by his results yet.

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right now

would you put Hellickson above McGee as far as prospects go?

by FirebatM3 on Jun 14, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a sucker for

McGee’s particular kind of upside. I’d still take him personally.

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd take Andrus over Beckham

But you have a point. I really like out top 25 compared to the league but our top 10 isn’t on the same level as the Rays.

Just wait until Boscan, Font and Pimentel explode onto the prospect landscape. Seriously, if Font’s secondary offerings start to show improvement, we could be looking at a top of the rotation prospect who could become the Feliz of ‘08 in ‘09.

by jparks77 on Jun 14, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many other SP's

in the minors, who are atleast age appropriate and were considered good prospects comming into the season are putting up better numbers than Feliz? Cahill for sure, Price but in a small sample size so far, and maybe Hellickson, though he has given up nearly a hit per inning (walked so few though). Those come to mind, any others?

by groundingout on Jun 14, 2008 5:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Chacin is comparable maybe but not better number-wise.

Charlie Morton was pretty amazing in AAA.

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Colorado Chacin?

on a not-so-much related note, I wonder what happend to the Dr. Evil Chacin?

by Telegraph on Jun 14, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s pitching again in the minors…poorly:

Team League W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB SO GO/AO AVG
DUN FSL 1 7 7.88 11 11 0 0 0 45.2 72 43 40 9 12 22 0.71 .367

by Brett Perryman on Jun 14, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was DFA'd a couple of weeks ago

To clear a 40 man spot for the Blue Jays.

I don’t think anyone claimed.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 14, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW

everyone shoot root for our own Brett Gardner as he plays for the AAA all-stars.

by FirebatM3 on Jun 14, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

neffy

i saw him shut down the beloit snappers a few weeks ago,
i was very impressed.

he seems like he will continue to get a good amount of grounders.

something like only 2 balls left the infield.

only ben revere did anything,
and he was immediately picked off after one of the hits.

thats a nasty rotation in clinton,
gomey, neffy, beavan

by god allah star on Jun 15, 2008 1:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the SB Nation blog about Texas Rangers.
Start posting about the Rangers »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Th_buckykatt_small
MNF tonight
Cd_small
Jordan Schafer Available?
Marion_small
NFL Week 11 GDT
Roger_the_alien_american_dad_small
Josh Johnson Available?
Ochomerun_small
Who is Josey Wales?
Marion_small
Mavs GDT 11/20/09
Ebbsfleet_united_logo_small
Three way deal only works if...
Small
OT: The global warming hoax exposed?
Img_0225_2_small
Pertinent Fangraphs Articles
Texas-rangers-logo-2_small
Frankie Piliere scouting for fans now

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

SPONSORS


Managers

Th_buckykatt_small Adam J. Morris