Milton Bradley contract discussion

Contract

2 year 22 million with a team option for a 3rd year at 14 million. Option becomes guaranteed with 1000 plate appearances over the first two years.

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by bigsteve on Jun 16, 2008 11:38 AM CDT 1 recs

+1

I might go higher on all the years, but that structure would be the gist.

by venturafearsnolan on Jun 16, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up 0 recs

I like it

and I think MOB would want more than that. He’ll prob argue for the 3rd year to be guaranteed, but I bet that sort of money gets the deal done.

by Dirk Diggler on Jun 16, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up 0 recs

Agree

JD can lowball him a little knowing Milton’s present trade value is a perfect storm, and knowing the player has an injury/incident-ridden past.

He’s not here to be the FOTF, he’s here to mash and one hopes play RF.

Overall I hope the team is exploring his trade value, and I mean working the phones hard, and weighing things with reports from the minors on Max, JMJ, and Davis. I think there’s enough depth for the team to deal Bradley.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jun 16, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up 0 recs

except that

he’s leading the league in slugging and obp. It sure is dicey to project some minor leaguers that high. I think we really ought to consider signing him to an extension and keeping him around. He’s been the best freaking hitter in the AL this season so far.

If boardgame can avoid his incidents and injuries and give us this kind of hitting and clubhouse presence for a few years, how do you trade that? He’s never going to have fantastic trade value because of his past. Why not just ride this out and see where it goes…?

by dan2 on Jun 16, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up 0 recs

Trade value

I think he’s got a ton of trade value.

Short-term contract, best EQA in baseball, an absolute OBP machine.

The acquiring team can just arb him and take a couple draft picks, worst-case.

Someone’s going to need offense. In terms of contract and in-season performance, Milton is the best available.

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by hightowersmith on Jun 16, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up 0 recs

Concur...

I think people are underestimating this guys value. He’s a switch hitter who is crushing the ball and is a big OBP guy. He may not be great defensively but can play a adequate RF. Plus he is very cheap this year so teams worried about payroll won’t shy away. He’s the absolute perfect guy to flip if health wasn’t a issue, that is the only snag.

I really do think he could bring back 3 or 4 quality prospects at the deadline. Think pitching at 3B prospects please.

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by slc ranger on Jun 16, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up 0 recs

Maybe he could...

but unless we can get a potential top of the rotation guy out of it, I wouldn’t pull the trigger.

My point was that I still think he has considerable value to the Rangers. In addition to his considerable hitting ability, he seems to have been a great clubhouse presence. I feel really good vibes coming from this team and I think it is due to, in part, to the personalities of Hamilton, Boggs, and Bradley. I don’t want to understate the value of actual talent, of course, but team chemistry is a real factor and I think the mood of a team can really affect the quality of play.

So, I don’t think boardgame is like Gagne and Lofton last year. I think we really should consider making him part of our plans for the next several years unless someone just knocks our socks off with a trade proposal.

by dan2 on Jun 16, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up 0 recs

yep, thats what i was thinking before i got to the replies.

2 years, team option on the 3rd, high money.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 16, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up 0 recs

Right on

I would have thought the same thing, 2 with a team option for 3. I’m never really sure about the annual average $ value someone should get… but I think between 10 and 12 a year would be a good contract.

People are worried about not being able to compete over the next couple of years… but that contract would still be VERY tradable, in a world where Garret Anderson makes $12 million in 2008.

Whatever happens in the end, the Bradley situation can only turn out good for the Rangers (other than him getting hurt).

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by tdi1985 on Jun 16, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up 0 recs

Could you also...

Pay him less base money, but build in annual bonuses per year (based around 500 PAs)? I’m not that well-versed in contract stipulations, but I think these numbers make sense even if you couldn’t hedge your bets with less base money.

Honestly, while I don’t think Milton plays here 5+ years, if we’re serious contenders in 2010 or 2011, he would be a great piece to have around. I doubt that he leads the league in OPS every year, but having a guy who walks a lot and switch hits is a huge boon to our lineup.

by jwiscarson on Jun 16, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up 0 recs

you can definitely do that...

but it would be a tough sell to get Bradley to agree to an incentive laden contract. As much as he’s performing, he’s going to expect that he’s earned the high base pay.

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by tdi1985 on Jun 16, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up 0 recs

Tough question

He’s going to be insulted by a short term offer, and too small an offer will insult not only him but the guys in the clubhouse who like him so much. You also want to reserve the option of trading him, so no way do you agree to a NT clause.

2 year with a team option for 3rd. 2009 – $10M; 2010 – $12M. 2011 – $14M. 800 AB’s in first two years triggers option. Additionally, there is a buyout clause of $2M after the first year, and $4M after the second year. This gives Bradley some cash and the team an out if he manages to hit the incentive number but is injured/ineffective.

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by t ball on Jun 16, 2008 11:51 AM CDT 0 recs

Concur...

2 year with a 3rd year option but there has to be some kind of buyout clause in case of a injury.

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by slc ranger on Jun 16, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up 0 recs

i guess i ride it out and trade the guy

i just dont think we have the pieces to compete for 3 seasons and any deal i do with him i dont want longer than 3 seasons. its kinda a crappy situation b/c i love his bat, and i never thought id say this but i love what he brings to the team. To me its a matter of when do you feel you are a competitive team? Im not sure keeping MB and signing CC sabathia is enough for us to comptete and thats investing like 30M a season into 2 guys. With that in mind i nab the best set of prospects i can get my hands on. You can get a Jacob McGee type of prospect of a team when the chips start falling right.

I just dont think you can ignore the longterm vision here and let the short term cloud your mind of the goal. Honestly id rather them trade him and invest that 11M in the best prospects in the draft and the best LA players in the world for the next 3 years and by then our onslaught of youth will be in the show and we would still have one of the deepest systems in baseball.

Thats when you trade for the Sabathia equivalent or sign your MB equivalent long term. We just arent there yet.

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by Jayslick on Jun 16, 2008 11:55 AM CDT 0 recs

Three Years

I don’t know if or think the Rangers can compete now (I doubt it this year). However, waiting three years before we make moves for the present will render the overall fan base to zilch. We need to be smart about procurement and development of young talent, but we can’t proceed like we’re performing a lab project instead of fielding a baseball team.

by mcgee48c on Jun 16, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up 0 recs

i dunno

not good with the numbers. i don’t really know what players are making, i just see some numbers thrown around over here.

i know that since the rangers got hamilton under control for a little while they don’t need to offer him anything for at least a year or 2. def needs to see what he does over a full season.

as far as milton? i guess do something like 2 years 25 million. is there a way to have it in the contract that if the rangers have a club option for a 3rd year and pick it up, that a 4th guaranteed year is tied to it? if so then 15 million per for both of those years with at bat bonuses tied to them.

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by gossamer on Jun 16, 2008 12:00 PM CDT 0 recs

Have you secretary tell him you are out to lunch.

Continue to get trade offers as the deadline approaches then trade him. That is of course if you want the Rangers to ever make the playoffs.

by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 16, 2008 12:00 PM CDT 0 recs

Might be smart

though it’s really deflating to think of this lineup without him. Not nearly as scary, but trading him is still my first choice because long term help is more important than the Rangers scoring 1000 runs this year.

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 16, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up 0 recs

Only if equivalent value wasn't offered at the deadline

Read: #1 or #2 ML-ready SP + young bullpen piece

2 years / $30M

3rd year, team option, $15M …

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by Chase Irwin on Jun 16, 2008 12:03 PM CDT 0 recs

Question

Read: #1 or #2 ML-ready SP

How many guys who fit that category do you think there are out there, that are also in the organization of a contending team?

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 16, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up 0 recs

Don't the Rays

Have 2 top 10 pitching prospects?

by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 16, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up 0 recs

McKee

You think the Rays would actually part with either of the big lefties?

by Baseball North on Jun 16, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up 0 recs

David Price

is likely going to be a star. Unfortunately, the Rays would never part with him for a moody, injury prone RF (they have CF and LF locked up) with a history of causing disturbances. P

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by SarasotaRanger on Jun 16, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up 0 recs

*Price

will be added to Kazmir and Shields, which will give the Rays an insane 1-2-3 combo for years to come.

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by SarasotaRanger on Jun 16, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up 0 recs

not to hijack

but have you guys heard about the rumors of Griffey, Jr. willing to accept a trade to the Rays? How big would that be for that organization?

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by tdi1985 on Jun 16, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up 0 recs

strictly for fans

If they were in the market for another bat, because the reports are Griffey would be the DH, then you would have to think MB would be at the top of the list. He has better production this year and is making waaaaaaaaaaaay less money. But he doesn’t have the name appeal that Griffey does so thats why they would be after griffey instead of MB.

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by bigsteve on Jun 16, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up 0 recs

They just need something to excite people in that area

they’ve had Boggs, Canseco, Greg Vaughn, McGriff. But Griffey would definitely have a huge amount of fan appeal that they haven’t had there in a while.

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by tdi1985 on Jun 16, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up 0 recs

TB Rays, where old ballplayers go to die...

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by Jayslick on Jun 16, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up 0 recs

well...

it is florida

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by ivysafety39 on Jun 17, 2008 7:41 AM CDT up 0 recs

They are out there

I can produce names, if you’d like.

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by Chase Irwin on Jun 16, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up 0 recs

Sure

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 16, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up 0 recs

Out There?

We’re still waiting.

by mcgee48c on Jun 16, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up 0 recs

Adam Eaton?

by dan2 on Jun 16, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up 0 recs

It takes longer than 10 minutes to research, evaluate and compile, jackass.

Especially if you cross-check with Sickels’ lists …

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by Chase Irwin on Jun 16, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up 0 recs

Jack Donkey to You

I missed the Pacific Daylight Time designation. Keep you powder dry and your frilly underware out of a knot.

by mcgee48c on Jun 16, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up 0 recs

Huh?

Adam and I are in the same time zone, so I’m not sure how that would affect your settings or designations, but whatever.

Clearly I had a 9 minute window to work with before you blew your gasket.

Practice patience or new shtick: one or the other will suffice.

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by Chase Irwin on Jun 16, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up 0 recs

By contending team

Names I would inquire about … High-ceiling players that are in AA = near-ready, to me, which is close enough to ML-ready, considering our rebuilding timeline.

Boston: Buchholz, Bowden, Masterson, Lester

Tampa: Garza, Shields, McGee, Hellickson should be in AA right now (technically not ML-ready), Morlan (hurt), no point in listing Price, J.P. Howell is nasty, fwiw (UT, ftw)

Chicago White Sox: Poreda, Floyd

LAA: Adenhart (I have my doubts, ...), Santana, Weaver, Arredondo / Thompson are good BP arms

Philadelphia: Carrasco, Outman

Chicago Cubs: Gallagher, Veal, Petrick, Hart, Marshall, Ascanio (relief arm, along with Marmol, who is sick)

St. Louis: Perez, Garcia, Mortensen, Wainwright, McClellan is a good and young BP arm

Arizona: Scherzer, Buckner

Florida: Hernandez, Olsen, Volstad, Pinto (don’t know if he could be moved to SP, but a nice BP arm)

Almost all of those pitchers are 25 or younger, with mostly top-tier stuff.

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by Chase Irwin on Jun 16, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up 0 recs

Nice list,

but not all of those are #1 or #2. St. Louis already has outfield depth, as do Boston and AZ. I doubt Florida stays in contention enough to warrant buying such a big piece. Tampa might be a match, since they could use an OF masher and can afford to give up an arm or two with depth there.

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by t ball on Jun 16, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up 0 recs

If they're not #1 or #2

most of them still have the potential. In other words, if they’re on that list, odds are that you cannot rule them out from being at least a #2, at some point down the line, during their prime years.

Obviously, many will get injured, a few will fall off completely, etc. Those are talented young pitchers, though.

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by Chase Irwin on Jun 16, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up 0 recs

In regards to Arizona

Could we do Bradley for Chad Tracy and either Buckner or Schrazer. They do have outfield depth but Byrnes has been injured off and on this year and Upton and Young are still young guys, with little experience.

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by hinduplaya on Jun 16, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up 0 recs

No,

I think you can say for several of those guys that they are not #1 or #2’s. I wouldn’t put Lester up there, or Howell, Floyd, Wainwright is overrated, Veal…

Now that’s not to say you shouldn’t trade for them, but you have to have realistic expectations of what you’re getting.

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 16, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up 0 recs

Feel free to make your own list

I’ll leave a 24 y/o pitcher up there who has a 127 ERA+ in 90 IP.

Floyd: agree to disagree.

I agree that Wainwright is overrated, and I’ve stated as much in other threads, but I won’t argue with his numbers.

As for Veal, what’s the problem?

He has 190 K’s in 203 IP in AA, between last year and this year. His ERA has significantly improved over last year. If he gets his BB’s under control, he will be an excellent pitcher, imo.

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by Chase Irwin on Jun 16, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up 0 recs

Friedman...

...does he really have to make a trade this year?

by oc on Jun 16, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up 0 recs

Okay

Most of the guys you listed, though, aren’t potential #1/#2 guys. J.P. Howell, for example, is basically Kason Gabbard. Gavin Floyd isn’t. Pinto isn’t. Garza isn’t.

Winnow it down to the guys who you think are realistic potential #1 or #2 starters.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 16, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up 0 recs

I made side notes, Adam

I realize Howell is not a starter. That’s why I qualified it with “fwiw.”

What is Gavin Floyd? Do you have to have K/inning stuff to be a #2?

A 25 y/o SP with a 132 ERA+ would slot in nicely as the #2 in many rotations.

Our rotation, for instance, features nobody that has been better.

I know, you’ll say it’s unsustainable, and argue that he’s an aberration—bound to regress. Fine. We’ll come back to this.

Garza? What is he? A 24 y/o ML pitcher who is holding his own: league average ERA. 1 K per inning in the minors. 1.12 WHIP over 4 seasons in the minors—he doesn’t mess around.

ESPN article about Garza after getting traded:

Garza gives the Rays, who need help for their rotation, a legitimate starter. One of the game’s top prospects, Garza went 5-7 with a 3.69 ERA in 16 appearances, 15 starts, for Minnesota after he was called up right before the All-Star break. ‘He’s a guy we project to get a lot better quickly,’ Rays executive vice president Andrew Friedman said.

So, tell me, why can’t Garza perform like a #2 after a couple more years of seasoning? What precludes him from putting up those types of numbers?

What is Renyel Pinto? K per inning in the minors. 128 IP in the majors with a 137 ERA+.

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by Chase Irwin on Jun 16, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up 0 recs

Okay

Garza, I’d put as a possible #2/#3.

But you said a #1 or #2 ML-ready SP. That’s why I asked for who you would put in that category. Your list has a lot of guys who don’t fall in that category, as I think you acknowledged.

Let me put it this way…who in that list do you consider a ML-ready SP who is a potential #1 or #2 starter?

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 16, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up 0 recs

Do you

Consider Weaver to be in that category?

by brettgardner on Jun 16, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up 0 recs

Probably not

I think he is someone who is probably a #3 guy, realistically. Maybe a #2, but with his durability issues and everything else, I’d say he’s probably a #3.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 16, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up 0 recs

I would love Matt Garza

for Milton Bradley. That would be amazing.

by Agreen07 on Jun 16, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up 0 recs

Yeah

I’d love that. Doubt seriously it would happen.

by brettgardner on Jun 16, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up 0 recs

agreed

i would call it JD’s best move ever if we could pull it off. I’m curious how much of a buyer TB would become if they remain in contention.

by Agreen07 on Jun 16, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up 0 recs

they gave up 5 years of delmon young for him

bviously delmon has been a disappointment this year, but he he had a ton of value at the time.

1/2 year of bradley has to be way off. maybe with something else significant also in the deal.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 16, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up 0 recs

TB should sign barry bonds.

by Agreen07 on Jun 16, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up 0 recs

i'd much rather have Milton's attitude problem than Garza's attitude problem.

by oc on Jun 16, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up 0 recs

Heh

I’m indifferent, but that was a fucked up blow-up he had with Navarro (was it?). That’s just awkward.

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by Chase Irwin on Jun 16, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up 0 recs

Touche

I think many listed have the potential to put up the production of a #2 SP at some point, or offer serious value.

Granted, some will have a higher probability of being a #1 or #2 than others. I think that’s what you’re getting at. My argument is that these pitchers are young enough that, given reasonable improvement, you cannot rule them out. I also agree with your argument that the majority of #1’s or #2’s on contending teams are untradeable. It would defeat the purpose to trade someone like that.

Garza may be a 2/3, fine. Buchholz? #1. Wainwright? #2. Lester? #2. Shields? #2. Eduardo Morlan is one to keep an eye on: 92K’s in 65 IP in A+. Santana has the stuff to put up performance resembling the seasons of a #1, but I think he’ll be a solid #2 if he has put it together, alas. Gallagher could be a #1 or #2, based off of milb performance. I would definitely target Marmol, but he’s got to be untouchable. Scherzer could be an ace. Scott Olsen doesn’t have great stuff, but he is putting up a 125 ERA+ as a 24 y/o ML pitcher, supported by a strong WHIP of 1.23.

Chris Perez of STL, for instance, will be a lights-out reliever. That doesn’t imply that he will have the value of a lights-out starter, but I would consider young, high-ceiling guys like him as trade targets.

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by Chase Irwin on Jun 16, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up 0 recs

bluejays want some offense?

maybe not #1/2, but theyve got SP depth.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 16, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up 0 recs

Jays

Do you want Burnett in return? Apparenty he’s talking his way out of town with stupid comments.

by Baseball North on Jun 16, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up 0 recs

He also can exercise an out clause...

...and become a free agent at season’s end…

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 16, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up 0 recs

Yep,

just hope he talks himself into opting out and make him an offer this winter.

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 16, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up 0 recs

How much would it take to get Chops McGowan?

by LiamP on Jun 16, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

$Texas

by Telegraph on Jun 16, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up 0 recs

Just write a number

Any number, any number and you win!

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by tdi1985 on Jun 16, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up 0 recs

:(

This team needs more mutton chops.

by LiamP on Jun 16, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up 0 recs

Minnesota or Florida

Two low market teams but if they want to contend:
Minnesota-I doubt they’d go for Bradley’s temper, but if they want to contend, and right now they are 5 games out of first, they have some young pieces that could make something work. And Florida’s always got good, young talent even though Loria may not want to pay Bradley what he’s going to get in free agency. Plus, they’re going to need at least some players to fill that new ballpark they’re building.

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by hinduplaya on Jun 16, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up 0 recs

Wouldn't it be funny

if we traded Bradley to the Royals. Ryan Lefebvre dream come true!

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by tdi1985 on Jun 16, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up 0 recs

I agree w/ AJM

if a contending team has a top rotation caliber young pitcher that is truly ML ready – he will be in that team’s rotation and untradeable.

I think a fair return for a guy like Bradley would be something equivalent to Harrison, Feliz, and Madrigal. And if a similar offer was out there, I’d certainly pull the trigger.

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by tricer on Jun 16, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up 0 recs