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by Adam J. Morris on Jun 16, 2008 8:37 PM CDT
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CD is just about ready, isn't he?
Hank Blalock isn’t gonna have much time to build up trade value at first base at this rate.
he needs to go back to third
his moving to 1st is looking more and more like a colossal f-up
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by red shoe ranger on Jun 16, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Davis doesnt have the the lateral quickness for 3B.
There is little to no chance Davis is moving off of 1B unless its to the DH spot to make room for Smoak
that
should have been an easy inference but Rodney is a little “slow”.
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by red shoe ranger on Jun 16, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I apologize
I didn’t take my dumbass pill this morning, so it is quite hard to follow your “logic”.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
actually
just try…....... reading lonestar Jon’s post….....and then mine…....in order…......and see if it becomes apparent to you.
Oh, and try reading out loud and see if it helps you…..
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by red shoe ranger on Jun 16, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
The “quit while you are behind” statement was concerning the last dumbass thread you started.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
Ahh...
now why did you go and say that.
Now he has to go look up “douche” in the dictionary and see your name next to mine and Agreen07’s.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
timing
At the time it looked like a decision that would at least allow us to look at Hank at 1B for awhile. Davis was struggling in AAA and hank was coming back from his hammy injury. Then he got the carpal tunnel injury and Davis…well he has just gone off. So yeah now it looks like really bad timing.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
let me CLARIFY....
BLALOCK SHOULD HAVE NEVER “MOVED” TO 1ST BASE
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by red shoe ranger on Jun 16, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
But the only problem is, with all the problems Hank has gone through lately, moving him back to third really doesn’t seem like much of an option. From what I’ve read, his right hand is still a little weak from the carpal tunnel surgery.
Can you play
Milt in the outfield everyday and DH Hank?
This would improve Milts value as well I would think….
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by red shoe ranger on Jun 16, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Doubt it
However Davis being ready here in the next few weeks, if not now, would make it easier to part with Bradley. Hank could slide into the DH role and although we would absolutely lose some production it shouldn’t be too bad.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
i don't want to trade Milt
I think he’s a valuable piece of this organization going forward if we can re-sign him
by OKC Ranger Fan on Jun 16, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Excellent point
Just one thing though: that would leave our 3-6 hitters all left-handed (Ham, Hank, Murph/Davis)
Salty to clean-up
Seriously, I don’t see why not, in that scenario, especially if OMOT is still around.
It’s not like he’s getting to play every day, so when he does, he might as well get to see better pitches, imo.
Ham-Salty-Hank-Murphy-Davis, Smoak on the way, Hank on the way out.
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by inactive lsb user on Jun 16, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Heh
Okay… you know I’ve often thought that as much as Salty gets on base, they might try batting him second a few times – see how he does with somebody like MY of Hammy behind him.
No
I wouldn’t mind seeing Hank ahead of Murphy but not cleanup. I think we would just have to deal with a 3-7 of Hammy/ Davis/ Blalock/ Salty/ Murph. It would allow Davis to see the best pitches possible because pitchers would probably pitch around Hammy to get to the rookie and with hank behind him they would likely not mess around with Davis. No offense to Murphy but if you have Davis behind Hank teams would probably pitch around Hank to get to davis and use his aggression against him by throwing alot of stuff out of the zone for him to chase
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I think you meant to reply to LSJ
I don’t want Hank at clean-up, either. I’m also not opposed to batting Murphy ahead of him.
Long-term, I was thinking: MY, Kinsler, Ham, Salty, Davis, Smoak, Murphy, JMJ, Andrus.
A man can dream.
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by inactive lsb user on Jun 16, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Switch Kinsler
and MY in the order. That was dumb.
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by inactive lsb user on Jun 16, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats pretty nice
I just don’t see Salty being a cleanup hitter.
I would say Kins-MY-Hammy-Davis-Smoak-Salty-Murph-JMJ-Elvis would be quite lethal.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
How can you rule that out?
He’s clearly a selective hitter and I’d like to give his power a chance with better protection around him.
It doesn’t have to happen now, necessarily, but I’d prefer to see him there for an extended time while he’s young. If you’re in the camp that he should be traded, then it’s probably going to improve his value.
He’s certainly more established than Smoak is, as far as middle-of-the-order-ready hitters.
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by inactive lsb user on Jun 16, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Can you name?
the last catcher/clean up hitter, I didnt thin so. My lineup would be kins,MY,Hammy,Bradley, Hank or Murph if ank is traded,Salty/Laird,Murphy or Davis if Hank is traded,
by blueballlefty on Jun 16, 2008 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Martin
occasionally, but McCann is a #2 hitter if I remember correctly, and Salty is neither one of those guys yet.
by blueballlefty on Jun 16, 2008 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Bengie Molina
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
I'm shocked...
you don’t think Salty can hit cleanup?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
not yet
eventually it wouldnt surpris me at all if he was good enough to hit cleanup, and nipkin give me a break its the Giants
by blueballlefty on Jun 17, 2008 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions
You said
Can you name the last catchup/cleanup hitter. Bengie Molina hit cleanup last night so technically he would be the last. The giants aren’t that bad they are 19th in OPS.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
Victor Martinez
don’t be a dense douche.
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by inactive lsb user on Jun 17, 2008 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions
That order
also breaks up the lefties nicely, with switch hitters in Salty and Smoak.
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by inactive lsb user on Jun 16, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
why
are we already making a lineup with Smoak in it, if your goin to do that then you need to MaxRam,Borbon,Andrus,etc.etc. in it.
by blueballlefty on Jun 16, 2008 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I already had Andrus in it, as well
Under my scenario, MaxRam and Borbon are traded.
Sorry, but all the prospects won’t be joining the big club together. That’s just the way it is.
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by inactive lsb user on Jun 17, 2008 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions
meant Salty
Meant Salty ahead of Murph
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
in the process
of increasing the value of OMFT have the Rangers conversely decreased the value of Salty by an equal amount?
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by red shoe ranger on Jun 16, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably not
But they are stunting his development by keeping him locked in a platoon, IMO.
(ducks and braces for flaming by the Salty-haters)
Concur
and lol.
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by inactive lsb user on Jun 16, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
You win the prize.
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by inactive lsb user on Jun 16, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Throwing arm
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by inactive lsb user on Jun 16, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Great
This isn’t cricket.
His speed is overrated.
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by inactive lsb user on Jun 16, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
is it?...
...he’s turned a couple of singles into doubles in the past couple of weeks….
by oc on Jun 16, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
0 SB
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by inactive lsb user on Jun 16, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Speed
doesnt always translate into SB’s but he has been good at them in the past, he also is selective at the plate, good at catching, so on so on
by blueballlefty on Jun 16, 2008 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Laird
He runs well for a catcher, but he isn’t an above average runner.
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by badradiorules on Jun 17, 2008 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Thank you
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by inactive lsb user on Jun 17, 2008 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions
i was illustrating what makes him valuable...
...but thank you for gracing us with proper baseball terminology.
Milton's value?...
...people are still wanting to trade this guy?...
unbelievable.
by oc on Jun 16, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Never said I wanted to trade him
But with the emergence of Davis our lineup may not see the drastic decline from losing Bradley as it would if Davis wasn’t ready.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Why is it unbelievable?
He hasn’t been able to stay healthy EVER and even this year he keeps missing time with little nagging injuries. Trade him before he has a serious injury and move on. I would just as soon not have to endure posts on this blog in a couple of years bemoaning what a stupid decision it was to give a guy with Bradley’s history $10+ million a year.
And besides, he can’t pitch so why do you care?
Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!
by LSBUser on Jun 16, 2008 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
we've talked about this all day...
...the only way you flip Bradley is for an elite pitching prospect…
and for all the reasons you just mentioned, i seriously doubt you’ll find GMs lining up asking for his services…
pull your head out of your ass, fucker…
wastin’ my fuckin’ time…
Chris Davis
“Daddy”
The word beasticons use to describe Chris Davis
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by red shoe ranger on Jun 16, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply actions
Wasn't here many years ago
how is Chris’s torid pace through the minors compare to douchy Teixeira?
noticed your sig...
A quote from the book Im currently reading,
“its easy to lie with stats, its even easier to lie without them.”
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by red shoe ranger on Jun 16, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Not by much
More hyped for sure. But Tex was a year older than Davis was his first pro season. And in AA they put up similar numbers with Tex having a slight advantage. Tex had much better plate discipline which increased his OBP but power wise Davis actually had better numbers both in HRs and SLG%.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Number was what I was more meaning
Prospect status isn’t really a concern of mine. It’s what they are doing.
thanks bigsteve
by OKC Ranger Fan on Jun 16, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Was Tex better?
.313 .413 .583 .996
At 22 that was basically his line between High A and AA
.340 .389 .634 .1.022
At 22 (before tonights HR) thats Davis’ line between AA and AAA
Not saying Davis>Tex , just sayin
by groundingout on Jun 16, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Walks
Thats what put Tex above Davis IMO. Davis has had better slugging numbers but Tex’s eye at the plate is what set him apart. If Davis learns that its scary how good this guy can be
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
That warms
the cockles, doesn’t it!
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
CD kind of burst onto the scene last season
When he hit 36 HR’s between Bakersfield and Frisco. Tex was more like Justin Smoak, somebody who was ready to shoot through the farm system as soon as he got drafted. But before 2007, CD really wasn’t on the radar as a “top prospect”. Which isn’t a knock on him, that’s just the way things went.
Our little baby Chris Davis has been
in the oven long enough it is time for him to have his coming out party!
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
Are you saying
your tired of the foreplay?
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by red shoe ranger on Jun 16, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
One can never tire of foreplay but let’s get this show on the road.
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
show's already on the road, brotha...
...one of the best hitting line-ups in baseball… with one of the worst pitching staffs.
by oc on Jun 16, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a shame
but a lot can change in a couple of years.
BMac can’t come back any sooner.
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by inactive lsb user on Jun 16, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
What was once a "good move for the team"
is now a crappy move.
Cue “Davis needs to work on x,y,z for another x,y,z time period” which will coincide perfectly with Blalock’s value being built up in time. Not.
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by inactive lsb user on Jun 16, 2008 8:53 PM CDT reply actions
+1
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
Put Chris Davis
at 3rd, Ramirez at first, JMJ in RF, MB at DH.
"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos
MB wont be here
and a highly thought of young picher will be.
problem solved….
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
I pray
JD agrees.
This would be the perfect example of “selling high”.
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by red shoe ranger on Jun 17, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope he's called up
if Bradley is traded. But, my perfect lineup in the next month or so would be
2B Kins
SS Young
CF Josh
RF Bradley (but if Mayberry called up i’d rather see him in LF)
C Salty
1B Davis
DH Ramirez
LF Mayberry
3B Vazquez
Of course, a lot of DFA’s or trades (Shelton/Byrd) with Murphy or Boggs being the 4th OF.
Stats don't lie
I don't think Mayberry has the quickness to play LF
at the Temple.
He’s a RF/1B/DH type I think
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 16, 2008 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
he has plenty of quickness
not sure where you get that from…especially the ‘DH’ type.
Stats don't lie
Well He's a pretty big boy right?
As he gets older he might fill out pretty well. I mean, I know he’s more of an athlete than say Adam Dunn, but in the long term future he might not be the best option in LF.
Whatever, I don’t have a strong opinion on it, so nevermind.
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 16, 2008 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
i would play him in RF
i’d agree with you there, but the way the OF is set up now, i don’t think it would be too bad. But, if MB is traded, he’ll be in RF of course…
Stats don't lie
Mayberry
He is very athletic but he isn’t a very good OF. His arm is fine but his throws are often wild and he takes poor routes to balls. He could handle it but I think he is better suited for 1B. He was considered a very good 1B in college. Excellent size and his footwork wasn’t bad.
Murphy right now is ROY
I’d want to make sure that Mayberry can hit ML pitching consistantly before I eschew David for him.
JMJ yes
Davis should wait till we trade Hank, so he can get consistent AB’s
by blueballlefty on Jun 16, 2008 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Davis...
I think he may hit a bomb everyday until the Rangers bring him up.
This kid is gonna be fun to watch.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Im still in favor for leaving him down in AAA till the end of July at the earliest.
He can crush the ball all he wants, but until he improves his plate discipline and maintains that discipline for a several month stretch, he will still get victimized with K’s.
Why rush a kid and let his struggle and then slowly adjust to the majors instead of letting him force the league he is in now to adjust to him and see a marked spike in BB rate when the league just stops pitching to him. When he can force the league to pitch around him on regular basis, then promote him.
If he cant, promote him in Sept or after you trade Blalock.
Do you consider...
...Matt Harrison or Tommy Hunter to be star-pitching prospects?
If so, yes…
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 16, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I see Harrison
A 3 or 4 not a 2.
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
You are wrong.
Remember he is coming off of an injury…
So what he is doing right now, he will only do better when he is fully healthy…
Hurley/Harrison will be the best 1-2 punch in the MLB for years to come.
"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos
1 career start
is a great way to gage a player…
If they did that, then Nolan Ryan should have been a terrible starting pitcher.
"No bear or disco for Juan" - Mr. Santos
It's also a great way to curse two players
after 1 career start, combined. =P
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by inactive lsb user on Jun 16, 2008 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
it's all about trends, Richie Rich...
...13 HRs in 60 something Triple-A innings is a cause for concern.
oc, you know I've got your back
But you’ve gotta chill out on the selective excitement. We’ve got the arms in the lower minors. We’ve got plenty to be excited about with the bats clicking like they are in Frisco and OKC.
Patience young padawan.
Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."
OC
Why did you go on a rant earlier about people still wanting to trade Milton Bradley but then act like you dont care what happens untill we get good pitching.
Trading Milton Bradley = GET GOOD PITCHING.
by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 16, 2008 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
pipe dream, Salt...
teams in contention don’t just fork over major league ready aces for a couple of months with Milton Bradley…
Draft picks + best available hitter = best hitter
Rare brings rare.
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I’ll give ya something.
1. A backhand
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3. $500 if you promise never to post here again"
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by inactive lsb user on Jun 16, 2008 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
isn't that like 2 AM?
Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."
Name please
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I’ll give ya something.
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by inactive lsb user on Jun 16, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Christie Cavalli...
...found her in an issue of American Curves…
...and i’ve been hooked ever since…
dude your families rich hp's and your only going as high as 400?
shes a higher price than that. you want a 400 dollar ho, you go to penthouse club.
"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008
"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008
Funny shit Miles...
damn OC I just googled her and she looks even better in some of her other pics. My goodness.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Definitely
He often gets lost amongst our plethora of pitching prospects but I definitely think he’s someone to keep an eye on.
by JimCrankshaft on Jun 16, 2008 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
a couple of weeks removed
from injury and he’s getting back on track. Dear god, it’s going to be fun trying to rate all these pitchers at the break and this off-season. Several guys like Gomez, Hunter, and Holland have raised their stock and many of the guys in Spokane could very well do the same.
I can’t wait to here about Ramirez, Main, and a sleeper like O’Campo during the stretch this summer too.
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