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Booing Mark Teixeira

So, unsurprisingly, Mark Teixeira was booed last night, upon his return to Texas.

I say unsurprisingly because it was pretty clear this was going to happen.  If D/FW sports fans are going to boo Michael Finley -- one of the more classless moves I've seen from a fanbase over the years -- after Finley played his ass off for the Mavs for a number of years, while on some not very good teams, and then got waived under the Allan Houston rule, well, of course Teixeira was going to get booed.

Booing Mark Teixeira is dumb, though.

What justification is there for booing him?  Because he's a douche/jerk/prima donna, as has been suggested? 

I don't know about the first two, but Teixeira certainly does strike me as a bit of a prima donna.  Of course, that was the case when he was still here.  I don't know that he's any more of those things that people are now complaining about now that he's wearing an Atlanta uniform than when he was wearing a Rangers uniform.

Because he was critical of the organization, said it was a big market team that acted like a small market team?  He did that while on a rehab assignment with Frisco, then played in 8 more home games before he was traded.  I don't recall anyone booing him then.  If that's the justification for booing him now, then why wait until he's with Atlanta?  Why not let him know how much you think he sucks when he's still with the Rangers?

(And never mind the fact that what he said was something that a lot of fans have been saying for some time, and was something that some Rangers fans supported him for saying, believing he was helping put some pressure on Tom Hicks to man up and act like a big market owner).

Because his agent is Scott Boras?  News flash, folks...if his agent wasn't Boras, and he didn't have big bonus demands, he wouldn't have been there for the Rangers to draft him in 2001.  We'd have gotten Dewon Brazelton or Josh Karp instead.  And if you want to boo him because of who his agent is, you should have been doing that from his first appearance with the Rangers back in 2003.

Because he turned down a huge contract because he wanted to play somewhere else, for more money, rather than go through a rebuilding process here?  Is that justification for deciding you hate a player?  If so, congratulations...you are just as classy as those idiot Seattle fans who threw money at ARod back in 2002, that Rangers fans ridiculed for being so bitter.

I don't get it.  The only difference between Teixeira before and Teixeira now is that he's wearing a different uniform.  If you weren't booing Teixeira when he was a Ranger -- in particular, in that last homestand he was here in 2007 -- there's no reason to be booing him now, other than sour grapes.

Particularly when, at the end of the day, the Rangers are better off as an organization, given where they are and their need to rebuild, having traded Teixeira and gotten Saltalamacchia, Feliz, Harrison, Andrus, and Jones. 

Victor Rojas commented on the telecast that people pay their money and have the right to boo.  I absolutely agree.  You have the right to boo whomever you want at the game, for whatever reason.  Even someone who played hard and well for four and a half seasons, before being dealt for one of the strongest packages of young talent that has been received by any team in a trade for years.

But at the same time, I have the right to think that it is ridiculous and classless, and makes Rangers fans look bad, to do so.

 

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Seattle did not offer Arod 10 years 252 MM. If Tex signs somewhere for 8 yrs 140MM, or less, then the booing is justified. I guess it’s TBD.

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by Longhorn on Jun 18, 2008 11:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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What justification is there for booing him? Because he’s a douche/jerk/prima donna, as has been suggested?

I don’t know about the first two, but Teixeira certainly does strike me as a bit of a prima donna.

He’s a prima donna. That’s exactly why he’s booed here. It’s sports, we root for jerseys, not players. He doesn’t have our jersey anymore, so he’s booed. I think that’s really it.

by cmkelly29 on Jun 18, 2008 11:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

by that logic

Rangers fans should boo every player of every opposing team.

"You’re the only here who contributes schtick only." - brettgardner

by trza on Jun 18, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, we don't boo every player...

because not all players reek of douchiness. Teixeira does, I don’t know why. I’ve never met the guy, but something about him irks me. Douche + different team = boos. It’s like that in every stadium.

I wouldn’t have booed him, but I certainly can understand why people would.

by cmkelly29 on Jun 18, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Completely.

"You’re the only here who contributes schtick only." - brettgardner

by trza on Jun 18, 2008 11:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

then you've also caught the ghey.

Of all former players that deserve a Booing it’s the one that turned down a $600 million contract or whatever it was. Eff him and his .250 batting average and 22 HR pace.

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by hubcityraider on Jun 18, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice

6 recs and I just had to boo this post and Tex

by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My awesomeness keeps growing

18 recs, 7 words. How can I not dominate the rankings.

by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

modesty be damned

I’ve got the filthiest posting skills I’ve ever seen

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tex

I thinks its a combination of everything. The guy never seemed like he was out there having fun. I at least, always got the impression that he was only here until he could fulfill his 6 year requirement and then go somewhere else. That feeling was only magnified when it was learned that he turned down what will turn out to be about what he gets anyway. It probably doesn’t help that just the other day we saw Kinsler, hammy, Bradley, young, laird, and rupe all acting like little kids by sliding on a tarp during a rain delay. Would Tex have ever been caught doing that? I doubt it. All in all i as a fan want to feel like the players I am rooting for want to be there. i never got that feeling with Tex and as great as his home runs were seeing his actions after the trade only reinforced that he didn’t want to be here from day 1

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by bigsteve on Jun 18, 2008 11:40 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

True

the feeling that a player doesn’t want to represent you is probably the feeling most got from tex and is the biggest reason for the general nonacceptance and then frustration with him…

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by ivysafety39 on Jun 18, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I boo'd him before

he was traded and I believe a lot more people around here would have boo’d him had his name not been Tex, this is Texas there is a good ole’ boy mentality and anybody named Tex has to be a Good ole’ boy, now that he’s not here anymore a lot of people see that he’s a super douche!

by blueballlefty on Jun 18, 2008 11:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you had to link to "sour grapes?"

something about that makes me livid

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by ab03 on Jun 18, 2008 11:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you're already chiding us

like you’re our blog mom, but then to condescend by posting the link?

who hasn’t heard the term “sour grapes?”

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by ab03 on Jun 18, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should have...

linked this.

Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."

by TheBZA on Jun 18, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i only saw part of that movie

but it made me very upset that he didn’t split the money with him. does he end up doing it in the end?

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by ab03 on Jun 18, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They both lose all the money trying to screw each other.

Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."

by TheBZA on Jun 18, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well that would have made me even more upset

that brother sucked. I guess my point is that I could not fathom anybody logically thinking that the money shouldn’t be split but I think I talked to some of my friends about this and some of them were only willing to give the other guy a small sum, maybe like 10K out of 400K.

You’d split the money, right?

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by ab03 on Jun 18, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure about split 50/50

But I’d come up with some kind of compromise like your friends discussed. Probably somewhere between 10-25 percent.

Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."

by TheBZA on Jun 18, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also...

It would depend which one of my cousins…

Joe Morgan: (On Jay Bruce) I think he will. He brings energy to the team, and besides that, he is a pretty good hitter.
Ken Tremendous: I like that the #1 reason he will help his team is: "energy," and the distant #2 reason is: "ability to hit baseballs."

by TheBZA on Jun 18, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

you just pulled the lever! I gave you the money after taking pity on you cause you blew all your money. It’s almost understood that there is a split, no?

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by ab03 on Jun 18, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope
Because he turned down a huge contract because he wanted to play somewhere else, for more money, rather than go through a rebuilding process here? Is that justification for deciding you hate a player? If so, congratulations…you are just as classy as those idiot Seattle fans who threw money at ARod back in 2002, that Rangers fans ridiculed for being so bitter.

That isn’t what pisses most fans off I think. I think its that Tex turned down the offer and basically said there is nothing you can do to make me want to play here. Luckily, Hicks kept his mouth shut on that until after Tex was traded.

by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2008 11:41 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

this was it for me too

He’s going to regret turning down that contract, just like Juan Gonzalez regretted turning down Detroit’s big contract offer.

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by willamos2 on Jun 18, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the bottom line

Is that he didnt want to be here.

Can i blame a premiere player for not wanting to be on a 500 or below team going into a rebuilding team when he can get more money on a contender? Of course not. But booing him because of it? Meh, why not. Booing isnt exactly some devastating sign of hatred.

I dont think I would have personally boo’d him were I there though.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 18, 2008 11:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tex played hard

in Texas and was very productive. He’s probably the best 1B this team ever had and I wouldn’t bet against him making the HOF when he’s done.

Booing him because he said the owner was treating a team in a very large market like it was a small market and that he didn’t want to be a part of it?

Seems like the action of fairly unsophisticated fans to me but that’s largely what we have in Texas.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 18, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd bet against him

making the HOF.

Sharky said it, I believe it, that settles it

by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I've read the quality of your posts

in here and that doesn’t surprise me.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 18, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you are going to call somebody

” a low grade moron” and accuse somebody of being less intelligent than a tree stump, shouldn’t you make sure that you spell the word “basically” correctly?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 18, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Monkeys

will fly out of your butt first.

Sharky said it, I believe it, that settles it

by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

You have real difficulty

walking on the plank of creativity, don’t you?

“Monkeys flying out of my butt…” ?

Real cutting edge stuff there, DJ.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 18, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta dumb it down

so you’ll understand it. Tough to dumb things down to treestump level.

Sharky said it, I believe it, that settles it

by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well, "tree-stump"

is actually two words and at worst, needs a hyphen.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 18, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're a jackass.

No grammatical mistakes there!

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by ab03 on Jun 18, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

BOOOOOO HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Jayslick on Jun 18, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like I've finally found my signature

By 2028, there will still be only you thinking Tex has a shot at the HOF.

by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tex is going to have

to start hitting 50 HRs a year for the next 10 years if he wants to make the HOF.

by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yep.

He’s got to improve pretty massively After his age 28 season. Unless he finds a newer better undetectable steroid, I just don’t see it.

Sharky said it, I believe it, that settles it

by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

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by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

Put together a list of “close but no cigar” HOF candidates.

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by ab03 on Jun 18, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats just

the similarity scores from Baseball Reference. http://www.baseball-reference.com/t/teixema01.shtml

Teixeira is a good player, and was the best Ranger on all teams that ARod wasn’t on, but he doesn’t appear to be a great player. He has maybe a 10% chance of making the Hall.

Once he turned down the contract offer, there is no doubt in my mind the Rangers did the right thing, like they did with Juan Gonzalez, and traded him rather than hold onto him and settle for picks.

Sharky said it, I believe it, that settles it

by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know

I was just pointing how that list mimicked a list of “close but not cigar” HOF candidates. I’m no low grade moron!

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by ab03 on Jun 18, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

non

issue

Please forgive any and all typos, mispellings, etc.
Your kindess in this matter is appreciated.

by red shoe ranger on Jun 18, 2008 11:46 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

precisely.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 18, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

someone who wants to get paid more than $140 million...

...should know when to shut their fucking mouths.

it’s one thing for fans to complain about an organization. it’s whole different ballgame when players do it.

they’re getting paid. not us.

by oc on Jun 18, 2008 11:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

logic is flawed
Because he was critical of the organization, said it was a big market team that acted like a small market team? He did that while on a rehab assignment with Frisco, then played in 8 more home games before he was traded. I don’t recall anyone booing him then. If that’s the justification for booing him now, then why wait until he’s with Atlanta? Why not let him know how much you think he sucks when he’s still with the Rangers?

That is the reason. But, who boos their own team? That’s seemingly more classless. Plus, I’m pretty sure fans did boo him a bit, anyway. And, while it might have been valid criticism, when Tex says it, it sounds like he wants off of this club that is just treading water.

I also think it’s stupid to get huffy about booing. I don’t know why, but you seem to hold booing as this ultimate sign of disrespect. Like giving the finger wouldn’t be worse. Maybe it is a generational gap (but we’re not that far apart in age) but I just don’t think it’s a big deal. Fans even boo their own team a lot more these days, but then cheer them immediately after they make a good play. There is never any deep hatred behind booing. Most fans boo the best player on their rival team – not because they said anything, but just because they keep beating you. Nobody seems to mind that booing.

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by ab03 on Jun 18, 2008 11:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I am conflicted ...

... one one hand, I don’t mind the booing, though I am not sure I could do it myself considering how well and hard he played while he was here. I believe Tex handled the whole thing very badly in the days leading up to and including the day of the trade. I have never liked when players call out their organization, even if they deserve it. However, to me when he cried at Frisco it was not just frustration but I don’t think the little prima donna wanted to go on rehab assignment in the first place, like the very minors that developed him to be ML-ready were beneath him for a just a few short days.

I do agree about Finley—the man did nothing but be a model Maverick during a shitty time to be one, and he acted with class the whole time, then was dumped by the team. Booing was wrong, imho. But Tex is not the same at all and I don’t see how the two can be compared. Tex (in my opinion) purposely started calling out the org right after he returned from rehab and before the trade deadline … coincidence? I think not. He knew what he was doing, I would not be surprised if the whole thing was orchestrated. Big difference between him and Finley.

by Melmart1 on Jun 18, 2008 12:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Finley

I think Finley was booed b/c he went to the Spurs if for no other reason.

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by nikpin on Jun 18, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I lost respect for Finley

when he went and bitched about Jason Terry and got him suspended. Terry had a guy sitting on his head with another guy on top of him, but he is the one that gets suspended.

by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh come on

I hate the Spurs as much as anyone, but Terry intentionally punched Finely in the nuts.

by jthig32 on Jun 18, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Terry

had 2 guys on top of him. He was trying to get them off of him anyway he could. He didn’t Reggie Evans him or anything like that.

by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok

He still made a very distinct, obvious punch. He did it on purpose. He wasn’t trying to push him off of him.

by jthig32 on Jun 18, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

it was a definite punch in the nuts

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by ab03 on Jun 18, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was a punch

from where Terry was at, there was no way he said to himself, I’m going to punch Finley right in the balls

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by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Terry threw a punch, dawg

That’s auto-suspension. Had nothing to do with Finley bitching.

by HankScorpio on Jun 18, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When was the foul called on the court?

The NBA is such crap. Nothing was called on the court to suspend Terry and only after the Spurs bitched and cried about it, did the NBA actually do something.

by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

They did something because they saw the video evidence.

You’d have to be the biggest homer on earth to think that Terry didn’t deserve to be suspended for that.

by jthig32 on Jun 18, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they handled it exactly right

Finley started yelling immediately. The officials couldn’t call anything because they didn’t see it but the league office reviewed the evidence and found cause to suspend him. You (Gdawg) are being a homer about this.

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by ab03 on Jun 18, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a homer, just stupid

They were showing the replay of the punch DURING THE GAME. The announcers were saying right then that he’d get suspended. Doesn’t matter that the refs didn’t see it, or that Finley complained about it. It was an obvious call by the league.

by HankScorpio on Jun 18, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So in baseball

All those times a HR is called foul or a double, those should be overturned the next day? In the NFL, when the Patriots beat the Steelers thanks to an extra 2 minutes being added to the clock, did the NFL give the Patriots a loss or replay the last part of the game? Only in the NBA does the commissioner’s office go back and look at tape to see where non calls should have been calls. Of course, they don’t go back though and look back at where foul calls weren’t actually fouls.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What are you even arguing here?

In both the MLB and the NFL, the league looks at video after the fact and levies fines/suspensions for actions that the refs missed. Think about in a baseball brawl – maybe only the batter and pitcher get thrown out, but a couple days later the league might step in and suspend others as well. This happens all the time. True, they don’t overrule actual plays, but that’s not what happened with Terry, it was a fight. Your argument makes no sense.

by HankScorpio on Jun 18, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are actual incidents there

With the Terry thing, there was nothing called on the court and the NBA has made it a habit of suspending players because of flagrant fouls that weren’t called on the courts or saying a flagrant foul was worse than it was called on the court. Its BS.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no it's not

and this precedent exists in every other full contact sport. NFL and the NHL will routinely suspend a player after the fact after reviewing the video evidence. Just because someone didn’t see an infraction doesn’t mean they don’t deserve to get suspended for it.

You’re saying that if one player decks another player in the face but no referee sees it, that player shouldn’t be suspended?

You are arguing a stupid point.

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by ab03 on Jun 18, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you can punch a guy in the face

and not one guy notices, you deserve to get away with it. There are so many non-calls in each sport. Its stupid to go back and try to pick one out to suspend a player.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess

Terry should have just stabbed Finley in the groin then. He would have deserved to get away with that too as long as the refs didn’t see it.

by HankScorpio on Jun 18, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how is the terry thing any different?

the refs didn’t see terry punch finley in the nads. but stu jackson saw it and suspended him.

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by ab03 on Jun 18, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh

That’s exactly my problem. Terry had 2 guys on top of him, swung his arms and punched them to push them off of him, nothing gets called on anyone, but then the powers that be felt they needed to go and suspend Terry.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha ...

... who cares where he went, he was DUMPED by the Mavs, and then you pour salt in the wound by booing him after he went through so much with the organization? He went where he thought he had the best chance of winning … and he finally did win. There is nothing boo-worthy in that.

by Melmart1 on Jun 18, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Finley

I seem to remember Finley getting cheered during the regular season appearances (here’s and example http://www.nba.com/games/20051105/SASDAL/recap.html) and then Dirk making a comment in the papers just prior to the SA playoff series saying essentially hes on the other team now, stop cheering him, and the fans deciding that that meant boo the fellow every time he touched the ball

by Thrill on Jun 18, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Point exactly

The crowd gave him a standing ovation when he entered the game. While I was at the game, one of my Spurs friends even called and said that the Radio guy, I think it was Followill, said that Finley had been given a standing ovation. That’s followed in the playoffs, where the stakes are raised. Everyone should boo then because one play, as proved by the way the series went, could have ended either team’s season.

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by hinduplaya on Jun 18, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Finley

Don’t forget, before he cut he was making a big fuss about how he was not willing to come off the bench for the Mavs. Then he signed for SAS and was talking about how it was a great role for him.

That said, I hated hearing Finley get booed and thought it was totally stupid.

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by Wes Cox on Jun 18, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look,

the guy just didn’t seem to want to be here. Fans don’t like that. They want players to show them the same loyalty that they show their favorite team. Even the really really good players. It’s a little naive, sure, but that’s just the way it is. What’s so hard to understand about that? Why all the condescension? I wasn’t at the game, and wouldn’t have booed if I was, l but I feel like I’ve been scolded.

by HankScorpio on Jun 18, 2008 12:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Well said and sums up my dislike for the guy.

by cgolden on Jun 18, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Concur

rec

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by SarasotaRanger on Jun 18, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was at the game

And yeah, I admit it – I booed. I booed long and hard. I’m going tonight, and I will boo his douche ass again, too.

This pretty much sums it up exactly for me. Guys get traded, that’s how the game works. But you don’t have to be a giant jackass about it.

"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008

by lisa w on Jun 18, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TEX

I was at the game and the first time he came up to bat there was 80% cheering and 20% booing. Now when Padilla threw at his head and all Tex could do was smile thats the loudest I’ve heard the park in a while. As the night went on the boos became more and more widespread. The Atlanta fans sitting in front of me asked why we would all boo him after he was the best player on the Rangers for those years. I gave a spiel of Tex hatred and he pretty much agreed that once he left Atlanta for a huge contract he would be apt to boo for him also. I don’t fault Tex for chasing after that almighty $$$ just like everyone else, but I also don’t pay to sit 4 rows behind home plate so I can sit on my hands the entire game.

This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC

by nikpin on Jun 18, 2008 12:08 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

One time...

...I booed Usher and Alicia Keys as they preformed the hit song “My Boo”

I guess it was the beatings made me wise. But I'm not about to give thanks, or apologize.

by TheJeezus on Jun 18, 2008 12:08 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

And then I learned to spell performed

I guess it was the beatings made me wise. But I'm not about to give thanks, or apologize.

by TheJeezus on Jun 18, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Most fans

are douche/jerks/primadonnas.

Sharky said it, I believe it, that settles it

by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2008 12:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Right

But most aren’t getting paid for it.

I guess it was the beatings made me wise. But I'm not about to give thanks, or apologize.

by TheJeezus on Jun 18, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, most people are

And I don’t like most of them, but there is never an opportunity for me to walk around and boo all the idiots I see in my day to day life….

If there were no rewards to reap,
no loving embrace to see me through this tedious path I've chosen here,
I certainly would've walked away by now... Be patient

by trident on Jun 18, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Wouldn't it be awesome if there was though?

This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC

by nikpin on Jun 18, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Mmmmm I'd love that.

I could really use it at work.

by RachelB on Jun 18, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats a jerk thing to say.

"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008

"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008

by Jayslick on Jun 18, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I would have booed

He didn’t want to be here and now he’s gone. Isn’t that enough.

by cgolden on Jun 18, 2008 12:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Big deal

I don’t give a damn whether or not people boo him. I also don’t give a damn if people are pissed at this post. This is just not a big deal any way you slice it, and it’s definitely not a big deal that Adam chose to post his opinion on it on his blog (imagine that!).

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 18, 2008 12:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i would have expected more from my blog management...

...instead i get this nonsense… and another Tiger Woods update on my front page…

meanwhile… The Great Rangers Vote... sits to the right.

by oc on Jun 18, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Blog management needs to take a class in time management. Seems like a mighty long post for much ado about nothing.

by robert_d_wilfong on Jun 18, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're leaving out the cheers Finley got

I was at that San Antonio- Dallas game and although it may not have seemed that way, Finley got far more cheers than he did boos..

"I'll take Clemens over Millwood and Padilla anyday.." - bosoxsiempregirl

^^^^ Wow, I would too. I guess that makes me the next John Schuerholtz.

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by hinduplaya on Jun 18, 2008 12:22 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm from Arlington

And somebody offered him $140 million to stay there for 8 more years. He said no because there was nothing on earth, not even the risk of injury/death that would inhibit his ability to make near that sum of guaranteed cash, that would make him stay in my hometown and play for the team that I devote a sick amount of time/energy/money to.

And he is a huge tool

Therefore, fuck him. I wasn’t there last night, but I would boo Tex.

If there were no rewards to reap,
no loving embrace to see me through this tedious path I've chosen here,
I certainly would've walked away by now... Be patient

by trident on Jun 18, 2008 12:22 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Journey

I was there, but I didn’t boo. I don’t blame those that do, but I generally don’t boo anyone.

Well except Dwyane wyade.

by Dirk Diggler on Jun 18, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

just a small town girl…

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ummmmmmmm?

"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008

"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008

by Jayslick on Jun 18, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont either

but I have exceptions for ARod, TO (until he came to the cows, when I still booed, and then he cleaned up his act and hasn’t done anything stoooopid, so i quit), Brett Boone, and now Tex.

I reserve the right to boo or cease booing on any and all.

And I love you too, texasraider

If there were no rewards to reap,
no loving embrace to see me through this tedious path I've chosen here,
I certainly would've walked away by now... Be patient

by trident on Jun 18, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In light of the response this post is getting...

...I think I’ll save the “David Murphy is a 4th outfielder” post for later this week…

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 18, 2008 12:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i think that one will get a much

milder reception (I agree with you on that).

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by willamos2 on Jun 18, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

. . . some fools never learn

da da da da da da da da . . . some fools, never learn.

great song by one of my favs . . . Steve Wariner

by texasraider on Jun 18, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Will you also

be opening up Pandora’s Box while you’re at it?

There is no such thing as global warming. David Murphy was cold, so he turned the sun up.

by SarasotaRanger on Jun 18, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

He’s still an everyday player against righties

If there were no rewards to reap,
no loving embrace to see me through this tedious path I've chosen here,
I certainly would've walked away by now... Be patient

by trident on Jun 18, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good times will be had by all!

This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC

by nikpin on Jun 18, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bring it on

I’ll boo that one too

by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so

you blast rangers fans for booing a player not on this team, but want to degrade a current ranger because he’s a .300 hitter?

interesting.

Stats don't lie

by Longhorn on Jun 18, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dissension in the ranks...

...we need a zywica coo.

by oc on Jun 18, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yikes

spell check took a back seat on that one

Rare Gnats Sex

by ab03 on Jun 18, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well,

he sports a terrific .874 OPS against righties, just .581against lefties this year. Not degrading to call him a platoon player. Just .669 OPS against lefties in his career, trending downward with more playing time.

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 18, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so?

his career? You do know he’s a rookie right? I guess you would have platooned a lot of good lefties early in their careers…

Stats don't lie

by Longhorn on Jun 18, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's 26

It would be different if he were 22. Or if he hadn’t struggled against lefties his entire minor league career.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 18, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blalock

is apparently a utility CIF.

Sharky said it, I believe it, that settles it

by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

zing

but blalock wasn’t bad against lefties in the minors…I think.

Rare Gnats Sex

by ab03 on Jun 18, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I

should be capitalized and you only need one period.

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 18, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

one period is the end of a sentence

an ellipsis is three dots separated by spaces

by texasraider on Jun 18, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's "points of ellipsis,"

so it should be “points of ellipsis are . . .”

This is fun!

Rare Gnats Sex

by ab03 on Jun 18, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what are his minor league splits?

i thought the site with the info didnt have them so we didnt know? are you just assuming or did you find them?

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 18, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Given how he is a rookie

and is playing amazing against righties, the Rangers should give him the opportunity to prove himself incapable of playing against lefties by giving him a full season’s workload.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do you mean so?

Unfortunately, I cannot find his minor league splits anywhere, so that’s all I have to go on. But you’re willing to overlook his obvious splits AND 1900 minor league at bats that say he’s not real good. He had a .750 minor league OPS, despite being average or older than average in every league he played in.

Look, it is NOT a put down to say that he is valuable but should probably not play much against lefties. He should start against righties and occasionally against lefties, which would still get him 400-500 at bats per year. It is NOT a negative thing to try to leverage a player’s strengths and minimize his weaknesses. I have seen no evidence that he’s getting better against lefties.

If you want to give him the rest of this season to find that out, fine, especially since they shouldn’t plan to contend anyway. But expect to be pleasantly surprised if he suddenly closes that split in any meaningful way.

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 18, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008

"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008

by Jayslick on Jun 18, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

foget Tex

Chris davis just hit another bomb today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXWLfIgc0nA

by mchang4 on Jun 18, 2008 12:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he needs to get hot and master AAA

so we can trade him with a higher value. sorry, im of the opinion that when it comes to our 2 catchers of the future the rangers starter is Salty and Max i want in a backup role and DH combo.

"There is no reason for me to move to third base," Young said.
-FOTF 5/20/2008

"Well, we are one of the cheapest teams in Major League Baseball"
-Tom Hicks 4/8/2008

by Jayslick on Jun 18, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So

Do I need to go pick him up from Oklahoma and bring him to Arlington myself? Because I will…

I guess it was the beatings made me wise. But I'm not about to give thanks, or apologize.

by TheJeezus on Jun 18, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ill fly him here first class.

bring on the beasticon.

it rhymes.

Bring up Justin Smoak

by DSheppard on Jun 18, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok

So the OKC game gets over at what 3:00-3:30. he could make it here by first pitch couldn’t he? Has there ever been a player hit a home run in AAA and the major leagues in the same day?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 18, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

deja vu...

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 18, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

made me sad

I’m with you on it, just really seemed bitter.

by bushe on Jun 18, 2008 12:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Now THAT

post deserves a rec.

I was looking for some action, but all I found were cigarettes and alcohol.

by Escher on Jun 18, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Booing tex

I think theres a little overreaction to this. While I don’t think I would personally boo him, I can understand why some did. I also agree that tex seemed like a primadona little d-bag when he was here, but he never half assed it and always seemed to play hard.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 18, 2008 12:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

i agree with this sentiment. I can see why people boo and I can see why people don’t. I don’t really understand getting huffy over either position.

Rare Gnats Sex

by ab03 on Jun 18, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, the Finley Strawman...

RE: Comparing Tex to Finley

Comparing Mark Texeira to Michael Finley might make for a good trial argument, Adam, but it’s a strawman. Here’s why:

The Rangers offered Mark Teixeira a very nice contract extension and he told them no, proceeded to rip the organization and made it very clear he wanted no part of a future in Texas.

The Mavericks cut Michael Finley for luxury tax amnesty. Finley didn’t ask to be cut and quite obviously didn’t want to be cut.

If the Rangers had treated Tex the same way, then I think you could make the argument that they were grossly unfair to him and that it would be crappy to boo the guy.

Mavericks fans, particularly the Nowitzki-era ones, are notoriously mercenary. They’ll boo their own team faster than they will boo an opposing team. I’m in complete agreement with you that booing Finley was classless. The guy gave his heart to the Mavs for nine seasons and was tossed out on his ass for tax purposes.

Tex certainly didn’t do the same for the Rangers.

by Mister Naxal on Jun 18, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Follow Up

After reading Adam’s original post (which I kind of lost reading through the comments), I’m the one making the strawman since Adam’s not really comparing Tex to Finley, just the booing of Tex to the booing of Finley.

I still stand by my argument that people boo Tex because he didn’t want to play for the Rangers. People boo Finley because…they’re jackasses?

by Mister Naxal on Jun 18, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, if you look at the timeline

Teixeira took his potshots at the organization before the Rangers made the offer.

by jamcadbury on Jun 18, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

AND after

That’s the problem. Jerk before. Jerk after. Jerk it up, Tex.

by FuturePants on Jun 18, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Booing

Its not too terribly tragic for Finley to be booed considering he was paid his full bloated salary to be “dropped” by the Mavs. I wouldn’t have booed him if there, but it wasn’t as tragic as made out. We all know he could have restructured his contract to stay. He was making almost twice as much as Steve Nash does now, after MVP’s and all. Or worked on his ball handling and defense. And I like him.
Tex seems to have a snooty college boy attitude or air about him that is off putting but can be tolerated until he starts overtly dissing his (and our) team to get out of town.

by mcgee48c on Jun 18, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sure it's sour grapes,

but getting booed is the price you pay if you sign a contract for 252 mil that you don’t want to fulfill, or you turn down 140 mil. My gripe with players like A-Rod and Tex is that there’s nothing about being a millionaire athlete that says you can’t be a good guy too. They’re all over the place….Chipper Jones is a great example, or how about Maggs Ordonez, or Nolan Ryan for that matter. Guys like Tex seem to think they have to complain or disparage to get respect or prove how smart they are. It’s ok to not be a tool guys, even Boras clients are good guys…..sometimes.

- "If you keep hitting me you're going to break my spirit" -Bullwinkle

by jcAustin on Jun 18, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

how was copper wire invented?

nolan ryan found a penny.

My neighbor used to tell that joke all the time. Never really understood the basis for it but there must be some truth to it.

Rare Gnats Sex

by ab03 on Jun 18, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

funny thing

i just bought mlb 2k8 and fired up a game vs the braves, and tex’s first ab the crowd booed.

i found it rather amusing

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 18, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My take on Finley and Teixeira.....

I don’t like Teixeira because he quit on us and went elsewhere!!

I don’t like Finley because he thought he was too good to come off the bench for us, but it’s no problem to do it for the Spurs!!

Both of them can SUCK IT!!

On a side note….....I’ve never booed a player. I’ve yelled obsenities at my TV towards a player, but never at a game. I usually try to show some respect to the folks around me that don’t care about my opinions.

"GO RANGERS!!!" - bspate

by bspate on Jun 18, 2008 2:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Im sure...

every organization at one point or another has boo’d a former player.
So I guess that just makes sports fans in general look bad.

and even if I don’t like a player on a team that I root for, I refuse to boo them, because they’re a part of the team that I root for.

maybe we can chalk the booing up to trying to get in his head so he wouldn’t do well in that particular game/series.

by downsetgo on Jun 18, 2008 2:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Are you sure that...

They weren’t just saying BOOO-URNS?

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 18, 2008 3:18 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Adam's blog

This is a big market blog, acting like a small market blog, discussing petty things such as booing Mark Teixeira.

Who cares? Tex is a big boy. He can handle the boos.
Heck! You either have to be a very good player or a very crappy one to get boo’d and he’s not half bad. That should be compliment enough.

by chrisR on Jun 18, 2008 3:18 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

pretty sure bill simmons would do a 4 part series on booing

unfortunately, booing is a fascinating topic to some. just seems played out to me.

Rare Gnats Sex

by ab03 on Jun 18, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Teixeira

He made it pretty clear he didn’t want to play for the Rangers. Seems like a prime candidate for booing to me.

by Randy Richardson on Jun 18, 2008 3:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

don't agree with the booing either

boo him, and Tex will only think “screw em, I was right”
cheer him, and he won’t know what to think

I do however support Padilla throwing at him, as I do for Padilla vs. all batters

by tangiers on Jun 18, 2008 5:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I couldn't help...

but laugh at that first pitch.

I’m glad it didn’t hit him though.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 19, 2008 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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