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Winners and losers on the Chris Davis promotion

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Evan Grant runs down the winners and losers from the Chris Davis promotion...

I will offer some thoughts on this this afternoon, once my brain is working well again...

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Cruz?

Am I wrong or is Nellie a slight loser in this deal? Davis’ call up makes it less likely that we’ll give Nellie another shot, no?

I guess it was the beatings made me wise. But I'm not about to give thanks, or apologize.

by TheJeezus on Jun 26, 2008 11:40 AM CDT   0 recs

I think so

At least to the point that it makes the 40 man roster a slot tighter. At least in terms of the 25 man itself, I don’t know that Davis hurts Cruz too much.

by zywica on Jun 26, 2008 2:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Losers

anyone over 30? It’s staggering to think that by year’s end we might have seen the following players called up for meaningful roles:
Boggs, Duran, Mathis, Mendoza, Feldman (as a starter), Murray, Hurley, Ramirez, Davis…

And I’m guessing we’ll see the following before 2008 is done:
Harrison, Madrigal, Gordon, Arias, Mayberry.

With the exception of Gordon, I feel all of those have a chance of being with the club for a significant portion, if not all, of 2009.

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 26, 2008 11:56 AM CDT   0 recs

Add to the list of losers:

American League pitchers for the next 10+ years….

by SteveP on Jun 26, 2008 12:15 PM CDT   0 recs

And, as a complement to that adding to the list of winners:

Pacific Coast League pitchers over the next year or two.

by iblum on Jun 26, 2008 12:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

My new job blocks anything that says "blog" in the site name

can anyone post a brief rundown of what he’s saying? Sorry Evan but I’d read it on your site if I could….

by Dirk Diggler on Jun 26, 2008 12:32 PM CDT   0 recs

Maybe check here:

http://paste2.org/p/42664

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jun 26, 2008 12:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

YW!

:)

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jun 26, 2008 1:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

cool site

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by ab03 on Jun 26, 2008 2:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This one is cool also:

BTW, you can upload docs here for free, no signup, and then share with anyone.

Ya, I know…I’m great! :)

http://viewer.zoho.com/

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jun 26, 2008 2:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

meh

you’re not terrible :)

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by ab03 on Jun 26, 2008 2:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

know what you mean

I can hit nearly any site as long as it isn’t a “game” site (fantasy baseball counts as a game!!) or email.

which is why i’m wanting the new iphone, no restriction browsing

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 26, 2008 2:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I have an iphone

and yeah it’s helpful for that. But it’s not quite the same.

by Dirk Diggler on Jun 26, 2008 2:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ha!

no, they’re classified in the security system as “social networking sites” apparently. Fantasy baseball on yahoo is also blocked because it’s address has “games” in it. Thank god for generic sounding domains like LSB.

by Dirk Diggler on Jun 26, 2008 1:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Websense sucks!

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jun 26, 2008 1:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ha, yep

it is websense

by Dirk Diggler on Jun 26, 2008 1:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Tell me about it

My school blocks everything from LSB to games to Facebook. Basically any website a teen would want to go on.

"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno

by hinduplaya on Jun 26, 2008 2:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

then how did you post?

phone?

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by ab03 on Jun 26, 2008 2:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh Sorry

I meant actually during the school year. I don’t have summer school right now.

"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno

by hinduplaya on Jun 26, 2008 2:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Use

Proxies.

"Point is I could have had them if I wanted. But I DO NOT lower my standards. Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought." -miles

by coolaid on Jun 26, 2008 2:36 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I know what a proxy is

but can you explain a little?

by Dirk Diggler on Jun 26, 2008 2:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You

can use a site like https://vtunnel.com/ to bypass the security. Keep in mind its https.

Usually works but not 100% sure.

"Point is I could have had them if I wanted. But I DO NOT lower my standards. Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought." -miles

by coolaid on Jun 26, 2008 2:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

where i work, all that stuff sets off bigger red flags than going to sites themselves.

i’m just glad i can mostly browse freely outside of game sites,and personal email

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 26, 2008 2:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thats

probably true for work but it works in schools.

"Point is I could have had them if I wanted. But I DO NOT lower my standards. Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought." -miles

by coolaid on Jun 26, 2008 2:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

true

at school then i’d just use an ssh tunnel man.
get an account on a unix/linux box somewhere and ssh to it and divert all traffic through the tunnel.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 26, 2008 2:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nah.

I don’t need it that badly and I am done with school until September.

"Point is I could have had them if I wanted. But I DO NOT lower my standards. Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought." -miles

by coolaid on Jun 26, 2008 2:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

it’s not like it’s hard to set up
it’s really just a vpn. all your traffic (email, etc) is encrypted.

btw, this would also work very well for getting around the whole mlbtv blackout thing if the server was outside the viewing region.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 26, 2008 2:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They block those too. You can't even search for them.

GISD goes all out to make sure you can’t do anything

"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno

by hinduplaya on Jun 26, 2008 3:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

G-town

I’m a proud alum of GISD. Hope your keepin it real…...

Please forgive any and all typos, mispellings, etc.
Your kindess in this matter is appreciated.

by red shoe ranger on Jun 26, 2008 6:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Random thought: 5th round draftees

I wonder how many other teams have three 5th rounders on the big league roster. (M. Young, CJ Wilson, and Davis)

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 26, 2008 1:21 PM CDT   0 recs

Sounds like

you have a project!

:)

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jun 26, 2008 1:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Also

I wonder how often a JC position player takes less than two years to make it. They held out about as long as they could and he still almost beat the 2008 draft.

by zywica on Jun 26, 2008 2:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Albert Pujols beat him by about 3 months.

Unless I’m off by a year… which I wouldn’t rule out. Too lazy to look it up. Pujols was also a much later pick than Davis.

by NoNameOnCard on Jun 26, 2008 4:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

But with Pujols

you have to wonder how old he really was.

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 26, 2008 6:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll be even more excited about this

if Evan is correct and Cat is moved.

Kobe, tell me how my ass tastes - Shaq

by DJCahill on Jun 26, 2008 1:35 PM CDT   0 recs

and even more excited

if he is moved for something useful in return.

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 26, 2008 1:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd settle

for his contract being eaten and a sixpack of bears. Even if he is a 60 hitter in Adam’s world, I think its unreasonable to expect much more from a guy who

A) Is a platoon player
B) is bad defensively whereever he plays
C) had a .781 OPS last year and a .759 OPS this year.

Kobe, tell me how my ass tastes - Shaq

by DJCahill on Jun 26, 2008 2:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Aaaaaand....

the best pinch hitter in history. He does have value to an NL club. How much, vs. his cotract/production is for JD to find out.

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jun 26, 2008 2:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

he's not going to get cut

there’s no way. traded, maybe.

"You’re the only here who contributes schtick only." - brettgardner

by trza on Jun 26, 2008 2:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

bears?

i didn’t know you swung that way.

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by ab03 on Jun 26, 2008 2:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Need the bears

for Juan Dominguez.

Kobe, tell me how my ass tastes - Shaq

by DJCahill on Jun 26, 2008 2:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i don't know how well he has to play defensively

i think he gets points for technically being able to play LF, 1B. I guess it has been too long to try him at any other position in the IF but maybe the Rangers do a good job of selling him as an emergency 2B. Either way, late in the game, I think an NL club wouldn’t mind having him on the bench, ready to PH, and play the field in a couple of different ways

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by ab03 on Jun 26, 2008 2:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Bad defensively?

Did you see the play the guy made in the 8th inning last night??

"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno

by hinduplaya on Jun 26, 2008 2:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Did you see him play defense for the last year and a half?

He is very poor in the OF, has no arm, and while he isnt going to kill you at 1b… a bad defensive OF who can get by at 1b is not exactly a defensive asset.

Bring up Chris Davis

by DSheppard on Jun 26, 2008 2:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Alright, I'll give you the OF

But he could be valuable to some National League team as he is alright defensively at 1B.

"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno

by hinduplaya on Jun 26, 2008 2:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

just a tad short

still nimble

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by ab03 on Jun 26, 2008 2:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

the OPS thing is overrated

for cat, he’s a singles hitter, a really good singles hitter and its just a shame we arent in the NL b/c having guys like cat on an NL team i think hes the kinda guy who helps win titles coming off the bench. AL his value isnt nearly that high but i like he dude on my team, i just dont think he needs to play everyday.

"Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought."
-Miles 6/21/08

.501 or bust!

by Jayslick on Jun 26, 2008 2:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i think that would be best

if cats on the bench he is going to complain, and with davis/maxram both up cat doesnt need to be getting any at bats at all.

shelton can happily sit on the bench (given the alternative is AAA) and be a pinch hitter and emergency catcher.

Bring up Chris Davis

by DSheppard on Jun 26, 2008 1:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

or..

i guess we could lose them both and call up another OF while hammy/bradley are hurt.

Bring up Chris Davis

by DSheppard on Jun 26, 2008 1:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Cat is not

a complainer, at all.

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jun 26, 2008 2:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

liar

Stats don't lie

Paul Pierce >> Soft Nowitzki

"The Legend of Rudy continues to grow..." - the other guy on the podcast.

by Longhorn on Jun 26, 2008 3:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Tom Hicks (winner):

...Prediction to contend in 2009 is right on schedule.

by oc on Jun 26, 2008 2:34 PM CDT   0 recs

Doubt it

unless we can get consistent starting pitching (injuries have alot to do with that) and a bullpen that doesn’t suck as hard as ours does right now.

"Point is I could have had them if I wanted. But I DO NOT lower my standards. Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought." -miles

by coolaid on Jun 26, 2008 2:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

bullpen

last few years should teach us that that is suck a fickle, lucky thing. sucks that it has such a high impact. just psyche wise, it seems like it’s the worst for your bullpen to lose it in the 9th.

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by ab03 on Jun 26, 2008 2:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

as it stands right now...

...it’s looking more and more likely that we will sign one of the top flight starters on the market this offseason.

your Perezes, your Sheetses…

didn’t seem that way in April.

by oc on Jun 26, 2008 2:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Perez is top flight?

Could’ve fooled me.

by LiamP on Jun 26, 2008 2:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No

Sabathia and arguably Sheets. That’s it.

by LiamP on Jun 26, 2008 5:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Lowe

not top flight, but useful.

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 26, 2008 6:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Pitching

Right, but at least you can go forward with fewer holes on the position player side than a year ago. You have a lot of talent all around the diamond (possibly except SS if Young moves to 3B this winter). If you can sign a Ben Sheets and/or convince Tampa Bay to deal a good arm for Salty you’ve helped the team quite a bit.

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 26, 2008 2:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I would

take a chance on Sheets since its unlikely we can sign a top FA SP like C.C. with the money he is demanding. I don’t see a deal with TB unless of their hitters gets injured or they have to trade a SP like Hammel or Jackson when David Price is ready.

"Point is I could have had them if I wanted. But I DO NOT lower my standards. Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought." -miles

by coolaid on Jun 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

their saying this kid McGee isn't going to make it as a starter...

...wouldn’t mind another long reliever, or possible set-up man.

by oc on Jun 26, 2008 2:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Reportedly

he is gonna have TJ surgery.

"Point is I could have had them if I wanted. But I DO NOT lower my standards. Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought." -miles

by coolaid on Jun 26, 2008 4:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

McGee

having TJ surgery I heard today.

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 26, 2008 4:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don;t think that Tampa

has that much use for Salty. Navarro is pretty solid behind the plate..

"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno

by hinduplaya on Jun 26, 2008 3:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oops, I had the wrong Florida team

The Marlins are looking for catching. Might be more interested in Laird, but still a possibility.

...and curse Sir Sidney Ponson, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 26, 2008 4:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Now that might be a good fit

Right now, both of their catchers are not very good and 32 years old. I wonder if they’d be willing to trade either Johnson or Sanchez, or if not, what else they have in their system…

"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno

by hinduplaya on Jun 26, 2008 4:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They have plenty of AA arms

if you want to get a deal done. Their system is still strong, with a lot of potential relievers. At this point, I’d say that’s your best case scenario for Laird

by FirebatM3 on Jun 26, 2008 4:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yup

Anything to add to this bullpen is an improvement…

"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno

by hinduplaya on Jun 26, 2008 6:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

starters

well as of right now our 2009 rotation is looking like Millwood, Padilla, Hurley, Feldman, any one of gabbard, BMac, Mendoza, Harrison, Murray

thats not counting us looking like we may sign a top flight FA. If we go into next year with say Sheets, Millwood, Padilla, BMac, Hurley as our starting 5 with Feldman, Harrison, Gabbard, Mendoza, and Murray at AAA I think that would be quite good. Now with the options situation the way it is right now we would actually have to start with Feldman in the majors and either Hurley or BMac in AAA

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 26, 2008 3:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Feldman has been real nice...

But after seeing the perennial Loe, Tejeda, Drese one year (or half year) wonder, I don’t have Feldman pegged for anything more then what he is right now: A converted reliever who’s having temporary success in the rotation. Hope he keeps it up.

by slimshadty12 on Jun 26, 2008 4:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

agreed

Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .

by Brian Thomas on Jun 27, 2008 9:07 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Loser

Aside from chris shelton, i think a slight loser here might be Davis himself.
Something tells me this isn’t an extended look. And how much playing time will he get?

Personally I just don’t see the point unless they are committed to giving him daily ab’s and keeping him all year

and let the slaughter of calling me a blasphemer begin!

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 26, 2008 2:45 PM CDT   0 recs

here's a thought...

...i don’t think this is short term at all… i have a feeling Davis is going to mash from the get-go. i believe this, because i was floored by the numbers Norm threw out this morning… Davis is hitting .300 or better ahead in the count, behind in the count, against lefties, against righties, with runners in scoring position, with bases empty…

the orgy Norm was having with himself and his numbers… it gave the utmost confidence that he will rake immediately…

and even if he doesn’t, he’s an upgrade over Shelton.

by oc on Jun 26, 2008 2:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh yeah, i mean i WANT it to be long term and work.

i’ve just got a feeling that he won’t stick even if he does well because the great mister glass will be back before long.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg