6/28/08 game day thread 2
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2008 9:14 PM CDT
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I would do my research
before making signs for players to “marry” or “kiss” me. I’d make sure they weren’t already married so I’d at least have a shot.
What do yout hink Ian told the girl?
“Meet me out back later”
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At least we can't blow...
a lead we were holding until thread 2 began this time.
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Don't even tempt the baseball gods, Jon
by The Best Micah on Jun 28, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Baseball gods don't need tempting...
it’s already a given we’re not getting above 1 game over .500
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What's this "we" shit?
Are you on the team/payroll?
end pet peeve
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
As a loyal fan, I consider myself part of the franchise
After all, the fans are the ones who pay the bills…
Incorrect
You pay for and enjoy sports entertainment, that is all.
Did you say “we” fucked up because your stocks tanked?
Did you say “we” fucked up because The Hulk sucks balls? I thought not…
Eh, I’m crabby tonight. Carry on.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
Okay
On the play that ended the inning, Duran rounded first just as Howard caught the ball.
If Howard had dropped it, either Duran would have had to have stopped and tried to get back to first, and would have likely been tagged out, or would have kept going to second and likely been thrown out.
I know it is silly, but it annoys me when players are on “auto-hustle” and end up doing something where, if they were going to be safe, would end up ultimately being a bad move.
I was thinking the same thing...
I guess maybe he was trying to do the barrel at the player to try to cause him to drop it routine.
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LOL
It is true though, I’ve thought the same thing before. But I doubt big ol’ Howard picks up a dropped ball and gets it to second before Duran gets there. All depends on how far the ball gets away.
I was thinking
he should have tickled him a little bit while he followed the fly ball
by blueballlefty on Jun 28, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
So matt harrison goes 5ip, 2er, 4BB, 2k, 5 hits...
not great not horrible, looking to go 3-1 on OKC.
So i am taking it that once some one gets moved hes the next fullt ime guy, or will it be BMac?
I would think...
BMac gets first shot assuming he’s ready at that point. Not sure how long it’ll take him to get to game shape, but I wouldn’t expect him until around trade deadline at best.
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A few nice arms
that may be able to have one season like Padilla is having so far.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Sounds more like stuff we could pick up by giving them Laird
Than stuff I’d want in return for our #1 starter.
I want Will freaking Inman.
"Point is I could have had them if I wanted. But I DO NOT lower my standards. Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought." -miles
Alcides Escobar SS, Jeremy Jeffress RHP, and Angel Salome C would all be interesting…Im not even going to mention Laporta or Gamels
Gallardo as PTBNL?
That would be sweet.
"Point is I could have had them if I wanted. But I DO NOT lower my standards. Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought." -miles
In response to Adam's question about trading Padilla because he locked the thread before I hit post
That rotation isn’t bad in the sense that it there isn’t any talent there, but bad in that you are looking at 6-7 guys with serious injury pasts and quite a few unproven pieces. We’ve gone into the past few seasons saying look at the possible rotation we can have if Millwood pitches like 06 (or comes close to repeating 05), if McCarthy reaches his potential, if Eaton pitches up to his potential, and so on. I’d like to be able to count on at least Padilla to pitch well and have that stability in the rotation.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Well
I don’t know if you can really count on Padilla to pitch well and give you stability.
I think he’s a useful piece in a certain situation. But I also think that if you can get a solid prospect or two for him, you do it, unless your goal is to do whatever you can to try to win 84 games in 2009.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Well what's your definition of solid
I think its a terrible idea to trade him for anyone that doesn’t have a higher ceiling than Padilla does. And when he isn’t hurt, Padilla is pretty much a lock to go 6 innings and have a solid game almost each time out. I also know we disagree on his defensive independent ERA since I put a lot more weight in xFIP which isn’t nearly as far away from his actual ERA as his FIP is.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
His xFIP is 4.52
Which is a middle-of-the-road starting pitcher.
If you are a rebuilding team, and can turn a middle-of-the-road starting pitcher making $11 million thru next season into a solid prospect or two, I think you do it.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I think
Padilla would be a Great 3rd pitcher on a serious contender!
by blueballlefty on Jun 28, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Toss in though
his innings-eating ability and he has historically been pretty good at leaving men on base and really looks more focused when men are on base.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Okay
I still would rather get a Matt Harrison or a couple of Omar Povedas for him, and roll with Millwood and 4 from the grab-bag of Hurley, McCarthy, Harrison, Hunter, Murray, Mathis, Mendoza, Gabbard, assuming you don’t sign or trade for a pitcher better than Padilla (which I think the Rangers will do).
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
And I can live with trading Padilla
but again, I want that other pitcher here before any deal is made.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Why?
Are the in-house options really that bad?
Would 2009 be a disaster if our rotation were Millwood, Hurley, Feldman, Mendoza, and Harrison, say?
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I was seeking to head off the inevitable...
...”you can’t count McCarthy, he’s always hurt” comment, so I didn’t include him in the potential rotation.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm a huge B-Mac fan
and think I’ve made it pretty clear that I don’t consider that trade to be the huge failure some do (like those who go by their initials around here). But, its pretty true that you can’t really look at McCarthy right now and say there is a guy who is a great bet to pitch 32+starts next year.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Not a guaranteed disaster
but things can get ugly with a rotation like that. Millwood is probably going to miss a few starts throughout the season at least, Mendoza is a nice back of the rotation option but still nothing guaranteed, and Harrison will probably have only a few Major League innings under his belt if he has any at all. You also have Padilla for the possibility of 2010 when the team is looking to compete more.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
that type of rotation
seems to work for the A’s every 4-5 years,
by blueballlefty on Jun 28, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
How many times has it worked for the Rangers?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
when was the last time they
actually started a season that way cant remember so your help would be appreciated
by blueballlefty on Jun 28, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay
so you run the risk of things getting ugly. You are rebuilding. It is a risk you take.
If you don’t sign a Sabathia or Sheets, or get a good young pitcher back in a Salty+ trade, then you go out like you did this year and get a Jason Jennings reclamation project.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate reclamation projects
unless you are close to ST and need to fill a hole after a trade or injury like this past offseason for example.
And Padilla has an option for 2010. If concentration is his biggest problem, having that contract year next season and possibly in 2010 could be big for the team. If you can’t get anything better than what you already have in Padilla, I don’t see the point in making the deal.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
greatest of all time
Stats don't lie
Paul Pierce >> Soft Nowitzki
"The Legend of Rudy continues to grow..." - the other guy on the podcast.
All I'm saying is that the Rangers
will have one of the greatest 9th innings of all time with the bats. Just watch.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Fuck this
I’m out!
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley
RAMIRUS MAXIMUS!!!
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 28, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
One of these days
I’m going to just take out that text
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
It gets in the way
of the greatness that is Ramirus Maximus’ face.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Are you not entertained??
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Boggs will ground out here
and I will be disappointed
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Salty
please, please, please, please be the hero of this game.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
please salty
please get a hit.
Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever. - Lance Armstrong
sigh. 0-2
man salty. youve got a knack for taking a strike and swinging at a ball on the first two pitches lately.
although after the walk, the first pitch had to be taken.
2 games over 500 please.
No matter what happens
A salty AB always gets to 3-2
well...
that happened…
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
At least he did something earlier in the game to score a run
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
no Salty trades
Stats don't lie
Paul Pierce >> Soft Nowitzki
"The Legend of Rudy continues to grow..." - the other guy on the podcast.
There is still plenty of room...
...on the OMFT bandwagon…
I’ve been saving a bunch of seats on it for about a year now…
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Speaking of that wagon...
Have you seen 525dp on there because I haven’t seen him on the LSB board lately.
Love how he actively defends his son, but be here when he’s slumping as well and you’ll get my respect a little more.
I think he's taken a break from posting
He was taking a bunch of crap the other day from Cahill and a somebody else, and kind of indicated he might not post here anymore.
That's too bad.
Although, if I had any kind of relationship with one of the players (particularly a family one), I’d probably stay away from msg boards too. I think it’d bother me too much.
by The Best Micah on Jun 28, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
So now you know
if I disappear for an extended amount of time, it’s because I’ve run off with one of them. Ha ha.
To quote someone in the last thread, the Rangers will be hanging a World Champions banner. Five of them. Before that would ever happen.
by The Best Micah on Jun 28, 2008 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I bet he's not.
And the Rangers players usually ignore me. For the most part. Which sucks, because most of the time when I go see them it’s in an opponents park and I’m one of VERY FEW wearing Rangers gear. But they walk right past anyway. I’ve kind of figured out that unless I have lots of surgery or rent a kid, I’m not getting any attention from them.
by The Best Micah on Jun 28, 2008 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Not me
for all the haters out there, but I do think Cahill told him not to post here, probably a good idea with Salty being under the microscope now playing all the time
by blueballlefty on Jun 28, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
he said
in a fanpost a couple days ago he wasn’t coming back!
by blueballlefty on Jun 28, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone told him that he shouldn't post here
because he has a different level of interest than regular posters
Shuerholtz sure knows his prospects.
Stats don't lie
Paul Pierce >> Soft Nowitzki
"The Legend of Rudy continues to grow..." - the other guy on the podcast.
yeah
he’s in A ball right?
Stats don't lie
Paul Pierce >> Soft Nowitzki
"The Legend of Rudy continues to grow..." - the other guy on the podcast.
thought so
Stats don't lie
Paul Pierce >> Soft Nowitzki
"The Legend of Rudy continues to grow..." - the other guy on the podcast.
not k'in a lot of people
Stats don't lie
Paul Pierce >> Soft Nowitzki
"The Legend of Rudy continues to grow..." - the other guy on the podcast.
In A ball...
...with the great Drew Stubbs…
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2008 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I have no idea
what it has to do with anything but hell yeah, you nailed the general level that Feliz is at on the HEAD!
by Brett Perryman on Jun 28, 2008 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
you thinking
that an A baller is going to end up being a solid Major Leaguer is quite funny.
Stats don't lie
Paul Pierce >> Soft Nowitzki
"The Legend of Rudy continues to grow..." - the other guy on the podcast.
Have you not seen...
Feliz this year? Or even looked at his #’s.
Come on Longhorn. Everyone has to start somewhere.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
yes
and yes.
Stats don't lie
Paul Pierce >> Soft Nowitzki
"The Legend of Rudy continues to grow..." - the other guy on the podcast.
And you're...
not excited about this kid at all?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
also
if the trade ends up being Tex for Feliz, JS wins…
Stats don't lie
Paul Pierce >> Soft Nowitzki
"The Legend of Rudy continues to grow..." - the other guy on the podcast.
Not really
If Atlanta doesn’t make the playoffs this year, Atlanta pretty much automatically loses big time in that deal.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
and has no clue
about his Major League talent apparently.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
huh?
Stats don't lie
Paul Pierce >> Soft Nowitzki
"The Legend of Rudy continues to grow..." - the other guy on the podcast.
Getting Tex and Mahay
didn’t exactly make them a playoff team, did it? And they aren’t looking too good this year. He made that mistake that JD gets ripped on all the time about thinking the team was ready to compete when it really wasn’t.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
well, has 2 HOFers on the DL, can't help
Questioning what Jon Shuerholtz (sp?) has done over the years for Atlanta is not very smart…
Stats don't lie
Paul Pierce >> Soft Nowitzki
"The Legend of Rudy continues to grow..." - the other guy on the podcast.
Saying that he knows his prospects
because Salty struck out like Hamilton did earlier in the game in a similar situation is stupid.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Just
Threw my cap and a full iced tea through the front storm door. If you wear major league laundry, you don’t swing at two hoppers to the plate, not even Vlad does that. All the pitches he swung at were too low to ever be strikes in the wildest imagination. Hell, I tee my golf ball higher than that.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Jun 28, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry
I got a kick out of that. Quite the visual. Just because I picture Ed as the real laid back type.
Yep
Very unceremonious outburst for me. Romero was sucking wind, the game was available, and I couldn’t visualize anyone golfing at his failed efforts to throw low. Not that an AB or even a loss matters all that much, I was shocked/furious/disappointed.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Jun 28, 2008 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
He's starting Wednesday
Today would be his throw day, I think.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
He hasn't pitched in a few days
So that definitely makes sense
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
AL West update
Oakland down 1-0 to San Francisco with Lincecum at 8 strikeouts through 5.2 IP (high pitch count though).
LAAA tied with LA in the 3rd
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Nothing would make me happier than to get inside of Lidges head...
He screwed the Astros, lets see if he can get paid back by another texas team
StubHub sounds like a midget porn website
just thought I’d throw that out there…
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Ben has already pre-ordered...
...the Mini-Me sex tape…
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking about that
Given that you are two runs down, in this situation, you probably are as well off hitting Vazquez - who is getting on base - rather than Davis.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
not after he pinch ran for Ramirez last inning
by blueballlefty on Jun 28, 2008 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Fucking A
As I said like three times, it is a decision that you would have made before you committed to Davis.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 28, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I was glad we had a utility player
but no, I didn’t think I’d love him this much. Ha ha.
by The Best Micah on Jun 28, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
ANY righthanded hitter leading the league against righties is impressive.
And it’s not just impressive, it’s weird. It’s not like he’s likely to challenge for a batting title or anything.
hammy and bradley get to take their knocks to win the game
its all you can ask for.
2 games over 500 please.
Great move by wash
PH with Vazquez
Stats don't lie
Paul Pierce >> Soft Nowitzki
"The Legend of Rudy continues to grow..." - the other guy on the podcast.
H-Bomb right here
Go Hammy!
"Would you mind walking a time or two so I could drive in some runs"? Milton Bradley
Geez
He’s not going to throw Josh a strike in this AB.
Young needs to go. Lidge isn’t even looking at him.
He really needed to run on that
The Phils won’t risk Kinsler stealing home by throwing to second
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
shoot
Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever. - Lance Armstrong
Scouting reports on Hamilton
have done their job.
He has seriously cooled off. Everything is low and inside and he can’t hit it and can’t lay off of it.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
FUCK
Bradley and Hamilton both failed this entire fucking game.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
+1
Between Salty, Hamilton and Bradley all up in clutch situations… I expected better than that. This is kinda crushing.
lmao hammy and milton and clutch abs=fail
The funny thing about my back is that its located on my cock.
5th inning, 8th inning, and 9th inning
Huge opportunities for this team and nothing. This game just sucked
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
The thing about .500
even though the Rangers haven’t been able to string a few wins together to get more than 1 game over .500, they haven’t dropped a string of games to fall way below .500.
Hey, at least it’s something…
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
That's what makes it worse
This team doesn’t play bad enough to be a bad team, they play bad enough to just not be a very good team.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
could be worse
We could be Seattle.. a team supposed to be good but is actually dreadful…
Just sayin’...
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Hamilton
can stop sucking at any time now.
"Point is I could have had them if I wanted. But I DO NOT lower my standards. Do they know who I am? Do they know my status? Thats what I thought." -miles
you know what Ric Renner needs?
A faux hawk.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2008 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
And the game comes full circle...
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You didn't turn away when...
you heard the broadcast was being thrown back to him? I did and turned to Cheaters on CW and am much more entertained
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this team
won’t be anything more then it is now until it can start producing some walkoff wins, the past couple of years they have always been able to get almost get there, but they just can’t get the big hit.
Hmm...
I don’t think that walkoff wins is what makes a playoff team.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
Hey dumbass.
Walk-off wins + Grit + Consistency + David Eckstein = Pennant winners.
I think...
“playing the game the right way” is supposed to be in that equation somewhere.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
Meh...
if this team stays around .500 and continues to give the young kids more playing time I will be content with this year.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
i'm glad that
they are letting the kids play too, it’s great to finaly see some young guys start to show up, but it’s been a beating watching this team seem to get so close to pulling out games like this over the past couple of years just to end up failing.
No team...
is going to be walkoff win specialists, not with any consistency, unless they are just, overall, a great team.
http://www.fangraphs.com/livewins.aspx?gameid=280628113
In the 9th, the probability of the walkoff never rose over 25%. The odds just aren’t that good.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
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