Dueling McCarthy stories
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2008 11:46 PM CDT
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So, there was the story in this morning's S-T about Brandon McCarthy having a setback and not pitching off the mound in Arizona anymore.
A couple of folks at the NMLR boards said that, no, McCarthy threw off the mound today.
Evan Grant said that there's no setback in a blog entry today.
There apparently is a very vigorous conversation going on . . . about Brandon McCarthy having another setback after we had reported earlier in the week that he had starting throwing off a mound again earlier this week.
No truth to any setback rumors. Here's the full text of the email I received from one Jon Daniels explaining McCarthy's current situation:
No setback on McCarthy - he threw yesterday & is throwing off mound again today. Including breaking balls now.
Story closed, it would seem.
But then, the author of the original story made this blog post this afternoon:
I received an email from an LBOHer that there is confusion in some parts about Rangers pitcher Brandon McCarthy.
Why I have no idea.
It is pretty straight forward. He finally had been pitching from the mound in Arizona. He had soreness, thus leading to him being taken off the mound and throwing from 100 feet. I know this because, well, I asked the manager Ron Washington about McCarthy before Friday's game and, since the report he gets daily on such things was right in front of him, he read it to me. It was a setback.I, of course, later asked JD who acknowledged McCarthy being taken off the mound but quickly noted that he thought it would be very short. Of course, a few people have a vested interest in selling that McCarthy is very close and Wash is not one of them. Oh yeah, they also tried to sell that McCarthy's elbow soreness back in spring training was minor and we are now almost at July.
So, there you go...we have the Rangers beat reporter for the DMN quoting Jon Daniels as saying that there is no setback, and an S-T columnist saying that Daniels says that McCarthy is being taken off the mound, while implying that Daniels is disseminatingdissembling on McCarthy because he has a "vested interest" in making it appear that McCarthy will be back soon.
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Disseminating...?
I think that should be dissembling.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Jun 28, 2008 11:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
im sorry but OT:
angels no hit the dodgers and still lose!
by richardtodd on Jun 28, 2008 11:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That fact...
makes me happier after that loss today.
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by rangers85 on Jun 29, 2008 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched the last 4 innings or so of that on TV out here
Torri Hunter had a 3-pitch K in the 9th that was one of the worst AB’s I think I’ve ever seen. I literally laughed, he looked so pitiful. Thank god we didn’t sign him.
It was kinda weird too, because two different channels had the game on – one the Dodger feed with Vin Sculley, and one with the two illiterate circus clowns the Angels pass off as announcers. Guess which feed I watched.
by lonestarJon on Jun 29, 2008 4:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Circus Clowns are sometimes fun
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-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 29, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Secret sources
Brandon McCarthy is Wilmer Font.
by jparks77 on Jun 28, 2008 11:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm starting to think...
whatever the problem with BMac is, it’s probably mjh’s fault.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Jun 28, 2008 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't have that winner's attitude
A real trooper would have gone out there tonight for the Rangers and pitched lefty if his right arm was hurting.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 29, 2008 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who's back sooner...
BMac or Hank?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 29, 2008 12:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Send the question in
To both newspapers, and see how many column inches it ignites.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Jun 29, 2008 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the bottom line
4 AL teams with worse record than rangers
by sam in so cal on Jun 29, 2008 12:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Soon to be six
I sense a surge to four games over, coming up soon. (Don’t ask, it’s just a hunch)
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Jun 29, 2008 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bad timing for the hunch
with a lefty on the mound tomorrow and the yankees on the road the next series.
4 under seems a lot more likely.
but.. all the more impressive if it happens I suppose.
2 games over 500 please.
by DSheppard on Jun 29, 2008 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you have that feeling, Ed
feel again.
"I'm extremely complex. I'm not easy to understand." - a) Charles Manson, b) Madonna, c) Milton Bradley.
by Clueless on Jun 29, 2008 2:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the reality is that this team is not very good
a lot of us (myself included) were happy to see this team hovering around .500 – especially after the 7-16 start. it’s like getting excited about gas only costing $3.15 a gallon. (that’s probably a bad analogy, but i wanted to work gas into the post somehow).
.500 is not what it used to be.
by sam in so cal on Jun 29, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no realistically believed we'd compete this year
So with that being the case does it matter what the record is especially when there are eight rookies on this team right now. As long as the kids are in the lineup/pitching and the team is figuring out who’s going to be here and what their roles are for next season and in the future, no one should give a real damn about their record. In fact we should all be cheering the Angels on to insure that we don’t foolishly buy at the deadline and that our draft pick is top 15 so it’s protected in case we go FA shopping this winter. Wins are nice. Everyone wants this team to win but truthfully I just want them to play well. Give the kids an opportunity to seize roles going forward and position ourselves for next season.
It’s disappointing to lose like we did tonight but then I remember that Hammels is good and that a young team like this will have more downs than ups.
by Hull Fan on Jun 29, 2008 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beat writer war, awesome. I have no idea where the truth lies here, but that girl is so, so, so annoying. It’s a serious testament to Randy Galloway’s sway with his employers that anyone has any idea who she is. She has a big empty bag of nothing.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 29, 2008 12:18 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
fwiw
Hindman, who is generally pretty plugged in, and who doesn’t generally pull punches when it comes to McCarthy, said unequivocally over at NMLR today that McCarthy threw off the mound today.
I would generally find Grant to be more credible than JFE on these issues, given that he actually covers them on a daily basis, and when mjh is saying the same thing, it suggests that Engel got something mixed up.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 29, 2008 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was my thought
EG > JFE on Rangers day-to-day issues.
by TexasTiger on Jun 29, 2008 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
EG > JFE
on just about anything that isn’t tampons
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 29, 2008 1:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
And the tampons are a photo finish…
Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love .
by Brian Thomas on Jun 29, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd agree
but the quote you put up from Engel implies that MacCarthy threw off the mound but had problems and stopped early. So it’s true he threw but the question is did he experience any issues? Well I’m inclined to agree with EG, nothing presented so far says she totally incorrect.
by Hull Fan on Jun 29, 2008 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
The email from Daniels that Grant printed says pretty clearly that there were no problems, it seems.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 29, 2008 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yah, but what if Grant is deliberately decieving us here
as some sort of diabolically intricate plan to finally get that CJ Wilson character what he deserves once and for all?
With his track record of passive aggressive Ceej assaults, you can’t rule it out, imo.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Jun 29, 2008 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 TT
"Typical woman. 'Give me' 'Give me' 'Give me'
I’ll give ya something.
1. A backhand
2. A stuffing
3. $500 if you promise never to post here again"
~ The Immortal, BG
by Chase Irwin on Jun 29, 2008 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gee whiz...or Jon Boy?
Who has the vested interest?
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by Clueless on Jun 29, 2008 2:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
vested interest
I think JFE and the startle-gram seem to have a vested interest in JD bashing. She follows her leader galloway and his instructions are clear “john boy” can’t do anything right and must be lying if he says mccarthy is pitching off a mound.
and if wash and bmac gave her this info, why aren’t they quoted and on record?
I think she's gotten all confused with the thought of cowboys training camp on the horizon"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 29, 2008 5:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
text in grey not intentional
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 29, 2008 5:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did you do that
Laird for President
by rldwb on Jun 29, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont know
it was 5am and i was just waking up i think it was a space at the begining and end
test"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 29, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So who do we believe?
Jon Daniels or Jon Daniels?
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by rangers85 on Jun 29, 2008 12:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what about lonestart Jon
me, I was always taught to never trust a Jon without the H
by blueballlefty on Jun 29, 2008 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've got problems of my own...
...the Rangers are 0-5 when i make love to a woman…
by oc on Jun 29, 2008 2:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The unassumed "woman" and elipsis
made me think there was more to the story. Not a commentary on you or your uber-manly masqulinity.
by robert_d_wilfong on Jun 29, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
The correct phrase is “bone down on”
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Jun 29, 2008 2:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ 1
Iron Mike Tyson works out at my gym.
He's a pretty good boxer.
by LAMuscleFag on Jun 29, 2008 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+3
"Typical woman. 'Give me' 'Give me' 'Give me'
I’ll give ya something.
1. A backhand
2. A stuffing
3. $500 if you promise never to post here again"
~ The Immortal, BG
by Chase Irwin on Jun 29, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But, thank God...
they’re 41-36 when you kill a hooker and dump her body in a ditch. Keep up the good work, oc.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on Jun 29, 2008 2:15 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
+1
I think Ben needs to lay off the “Dexter” reruns.
by lonestarJon on Jun 29, 2008 4:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on...
that shit was funny.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 29, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are easily amused then
Stats don't lie
Paul Pierce >> Soft Nowitzki
"The Legend of Rudy continues to grow..." - the other guy on the podcast.
by Longhorn on Jun 29, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one minute he's holding his brother's hand at Newberg Night... the next he's calling people murderers...
...that’s pretty impressive range…
by oc on Jun 29, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's funny
And he’s dynamic.
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by nikpin on Jun 29, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You sir...
get a rec for that
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by rangers85 on Jun 29, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JFE.....
Knows very little about pitching, I think. Throwing from 100 feet doesn’t necessarily mean he’s been shut down from pitching on the mound. That’s an arm strengthening exercise that could be used in conjunction with throwing off a mound. She needs to ask a few followup questions before she jumps to some conspiracy theories, though that type of work should go over well in Montana, if she should ever decide to move there.
I haven’t seen Rangers’ reporting this vigorous since Tex was traded, which is nice but also telling in that most of the writers/columnists just don’t get it.
by rooster on Jun 29, 2008 7:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't the mound 60 feet, 6 inches from the plate?
Seems like making a 100-foot throw would be a bad thing if you can’t make a 60’6” throw.
by Inkara1 on Jun 29, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Throwing off a mound....
is a longer throw for your body. Your rotator cuff typically rotates about 15-20 degrees more when throwing from a mound compared to throwing from flat ground. It puts a little bit more stress on the elbow and forearm.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 29, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares?
I am just so sick of hearing about him and Blalock and their “setbacks”. Wake me up in 2011 when McCarthy finally gets back from TJ surgery.
Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it fast I'm in a God damned hurry!
by DaheelzCM on Jun 29, 2008 8:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what the hell is a
LBOHer?
Stats don't lie
Paul Pierce >> Soft Nowitzki
"The Legend of Rudy continues to grow..." - the other guy on the podcast.
by Longhorn on Jun 29, 2008 10:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering that, myself
I believe it is a “Little Ball of Hate”er.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 29, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JFE
quite the contemporary linguist …
"Typical woman. 'Give me' 'Give me' 'Give me'
I’ll give ya something.
1. A backhand
2. A stuffing
3. $500 if you promise never to post here again"
~ The Immortal, BG
by Chase Irwin on Jun 29, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
weird
I wonder which is true. She is correct about the last point: “They also tried to sell that McCarthy’s elbow soreness back in spring training was minor and we are now almost at July.”
"You’re the only here who contributes schtick only." - brettgardner
by trza on Jun 29, 2008 11:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, they tried to sell it to the masses
I’m sure they knew the full extent of the injury and were completely expecting him to be out this long when he first had elbow soreness.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 29, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BMac
someone mentioned yesterday that BMac looks awful skinny and need to put on some weight. I agree. I have always thought he needed about 50 lbs of muscle on that thin frame. Would that lessen his injury prone ass and seemingly indefinite stay on the DL?
¡yo soy Horsedooty!
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
by horsedooty on Jun 29, 2008 12:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BMac
I would agree if it were just a random 50 lbs like on me. If it were 50 lbs of muscle like I originally said I think it might do him some good. Probably too much to ask for though I guess.
¡yo soy Horsedooty!
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
by horsedooty on Jun 29, 2008 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
did anybody see who was on the grassy knoll??????
by slash on Jun 29, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
didn't notice the grassy knoll..
I did however spot a gassy troll on the sunday morning diary.. come out of hiding after a long hiatus.
Iron Mike Tyson works out at my gym.
He's a pretty good boxer.
by LAMuscleFag on Jun 29, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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