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Rosenthal notes

Ken Rosenthal has some notes up today, that includes some stuff on the Rangers...specifically, discussions of a possible Josh Hamilton long-term contract, and this on the Rangers being sellers:

The Angels could pull away in the AL West now that they are getting healthy, a development that would leave the Rangers in position to market their veteran starting pitchers. Right-hander Vicente Padillia already is "very, very much available," according to a rival executive.

The problem with Padilla is that he is difficult to trust, particularly when he is earning $11 million this season and $12 million next season. Righty Kevin Millwood also is expensive at $8.5 million this season, $11 million next season and $12 million in 2010. Righty Sidney Ponson, enjoying a resurgence at 31, is less established, but one of the season's best bargain pickups.

The 2010 contractual situations for Millwood and Padilla both, though, would seem to make them a little more attractive.

Padilla has a team option for 2010 for $12 million, with a $1.75 million buyout.  Millwood's 2010 deal becomes cancellable based on innings pitched.  In a nutshell, the 2010 is basically a team option that will vest if he pitches about 180 innings next year. 

That gives a team acquiring either one of those guys some flexibility.  Realistically, if Kevin Millwood gives you 180 innings in 2009, you are probably going to be willing to pay him $12 million for one year for 2010.  And Padilla is someone who, if he performs, he can keep around for a not-unreasonable amount, and if he doesn't, you can cut loose after 2009.

So I do think that these two guys' contracts are more attractive on the trade market than Rosenthal suggests.  I think, when you look at what middle of the road starting pitchers are commanding on the open market, having someone like Padilla or Millwood on a short-term deal that you can cut loose after 2009 if it isn't working is going to be appealing.  And, barring the Rangers hanging in the playoff race, I expect one of those guys to get moved in July.

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Aren't many

available pitchers throwing better than Padilla right now.

...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 3, 2008 10:40 AM CDT   0 recs

Yep...

I don’t give a shit what the media says about Padilla and Millwood being “expensive”. Look at the price of starting pitching right now and tell me those 2 aren’t worth their contracts. I still say you only trade either one of them only if you are overwhelmed. If a team is not willing to do that then screw ‘em. They can have Ponson instead.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 3, 2008 8:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Padilla

I am surprised he is “very available” right now. The team is hanging in there and he has been the most reliable starting pitcher so far. I would definitely like to see them hang onto him until after the ASB at least. It would be a big blow to the team to see Doug Mathis permanently replace Padilla in the rotation at this juncture.

Fire Ron Washington

by pblack on Jun 3, 2008 10:47 AM CDT   0 recs

Padilla

If Padilla or Millwood get traded it will be Hurley who will replace them. Reason is that way they can bring him up and leave him up no matter how he performs. That way you don’t burn an option unnecessarily.

by bigsteve on Jun 3, 2008 11:42 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hurley's option is already being used.

He’s on the 40, so to be sent down to the minors, he had to have an option used.

R

by Requiem on Jun 3, 2008 4:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hurley

Is not on the 40.

White Women!

by nikpin on Jun 3, 2008 5:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

We live in a world

where Adam Eaton gets about $8M a year, and Millwood and Padilla are considered expensive?

"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2

by tdi1985 on Jun 3, 2008 10:49 AM CDT   0 recs

Padilla

He’s very, very available?

Oh, because the Rangers have very, very much pitching depth.

Of course.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jun 3, 2008 10:52 AM CDT   0 recs

let's put it this way

would you rather keep Millwood AND Padilla, and not bring in even more top-end prospects, and miss the playoffs this year keeping them?

or trade one along with Salty/Teagarden/Laird and/or Milton Bradley and pick up a potential future ace such as Clay Buchholz, David Price, Francisco Liriano, Adenhart, Adam Miller, maybe even Manny Parra?

I’d even try taking Oliver Perez and Fernando Martinez in exchange for Millwood/Padilla, Milton Bradley and Laird…

"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2008 5:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

A couple of distinctions

There is a big spread between Buchholz/Price/Liriano and Adenhart/Miller/Parra. I know that there is a similar injury issue with Liriano and Miller, but those first three have really good chances of being #1 or #2 starters. The second group could be #2s, but face enough obstacles that in the right deal maybe you could get them.

Having said that, I wouldn’t rule out the possibility, but I’m not sure how motivated any of those teams would really be to do that sort of deal.

On the Mets thing, they wouldn’t give Fernando Martinez to get Johan Santana. They’re going to let go of him for that group? Also, I’m not sure why Perez makes sense in that sort of deal. They need him, and we might as well wait for his free agency.

by zywica on Jun 3, 2008 6:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

just thinking aloud more than anything

didn’t know that about Fernando Martinez, that’s interesting…

my ideal situation is to wait and see if Posada’s back 100% or if he relapses, and if the Red Sox want to make a move now that Ortiz is out, considering they’re thinking long-term in regards to Varitek.

a move like acquiring “shaky” Liriano now could put us over the top in a year or two…you never know, and those are the moves I think this franchise has to make to get a top-end ace, just as it was the move we had to make acquiring a top-end center fielder

"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2008 6:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Posada

Does he have a drug or alcohol problem or am I missing something?

White Women!

by nikpin on Jun 3, 2008 8:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

relapse into shoulder problems...

maybe the words “relapse” and “injury” don’t fit too well together…I don’t know, I’m not an MD

"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 4, 2008 1:29 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Knowing how fickle

ownership and fans are and how whiny Michael Young is, my only concern with all of this is a major drop in morale (not just in the clubhouse but around the franchise, a la this April). Having said that, it’s all about what kind of value you can get. I can’t even give an opinion on what I’d do as far as Padilla and Millwood without knowing something about what they’re getting back. Ponson should be moved in July if he’s pitching well though (and Texas isn’t in the middle of a race).

One other thing to go along with that, McCarthy would really be big for this franchise if he could help stabilize things in the second half somehow. He and Hurley are really the only guys with enough talent to be meaningful additions to this rotation in the near future, and we all know what Hurley has gone through this spring.

by zywica on Jun 3, 2008 10:54 AM CDT   0 recs

What if?

Rangers are 5 or 6 games behind in wildcard? Where do you pull the trigger with all the politics involved here, (Young, Fans, Hicks, local Media, etc)?

by SanDiegoKev on Jun 3, 2008 11:54 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

trade Ponson

Ponson is the easiest pitcher to trade, if we can get real value for Laird I would think now is the best time to do so…I would love to trade Ponson and Laird to the Yankees in a month or two if they are still on the playoff fence at that point, try to milk out some top prospects for a player we don’t really want around here (other than AJM) and a pitcher we didn’t have in our plans at the beginning of the year. With that said, I would personally miss Ponson – when the guy’s got it going, he looks like one of the best pitchers we’ve seen in Arlington in years…

"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2008 5:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

he looks like one of the best pitchers we’ve seen in Arlington in years…

Seems pretty ironic to me.

by SanDiegoKev on Jun 3, 2008 6:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

it hurts to admit it...

but it’s true, at least to me…he’s got some pretty sick movement on his pitches. I’m happy we took a flier on him

anybody know how John Patterson’s coming along?

"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2008 6:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

he is taking the rest of the year off. Seriously.

"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," Bo Diddley

by Rodney on Jun 3, 2008 6:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Released

White Women!

by nikpin on Jun 3, 2008 8:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree

that Ponson is the natural first choice to deal off once they are out of it.

by zywica on Jun 3, 2008 6:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What can they get

for him? A Boggs-level guy?

...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 3, 2008 10:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I've decided

to sit with Linus and wait for the Great Pumpkin to appear rather than count on any meaningful contributions from Brandon McCarthy.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 3, 2008 12:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: counting on any meaningful contributions

That’s how we feel about you.

But you keep on keeping on, sourpuss. Haters gotta hate.

"For the record, I did not and do not like the Volquez trade, even though Hamilton is awesome and our best player and I think he’s going to be one of the best players in baseball." philikid3

by Brian Thomas on Jun 3, 2008 12:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Replacement

I’ve stated my reservations about trading Millwood in the past, and I think Adam’s comment from earlier today in the Tuesday Morning post says it all,

...the Murrays and Mathises, they don’t have a problem yoyoing, because they are fringey guys anyway, future middle-men or back of the rotation starters.

The emphasis is mine, but the Rangers have a lot of the “Murrays and Mathises”. They need to be able to replace Padilla’s or Millwood’s production for ‘09, and I don’t think this will happen from within (at least nobody is looking like they will at the moment). Getting a quality free agent in the past has proven to be difficult. If a Murray or a Mathis could reel off a series of quality starts between now and the deadline, I could see how the Rangers would be willing to trade Padilla or Millwood. However, Padilla being “very, very much available” right now just does not make much sense.

by Excel Hearts Choi on Jun 3, 2008 10:55 AM CDT   0 recs

I agree about underestimating

how difficult it might be to replace Millwood and/or Padilla. And for what it’s worth, if Murray or Mathis reels off a series of quality starts in the next two months, it’s probably fools gold anyway, so I hope they don’t base the availability of the first two on that. Their viable internal options for top four starters for 2009 are: Millwood, Padilla, McCarthy, Hurley. They don’t have anyone else, and as we’ve chronicled, McCarthy and Hurley both are questions until they establish themselves. So if you’re going to move Millwood or Padilla and hope to win much in 2009, you’d better have something up your sleeve.

Again though, it just depends on what the return might be. There are certain less than elite pitching prospects for whom I might be willing to gamble one of our two veterans.

by zywica on Jun 3, 2008 11:08 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I’m not covinced that he’s a serious prospect, especially for next year. The guy just doesn’t miss enough minor league bats.

by zywica on Jun 3, 2008 11:12 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jun 3, 2008 11:17 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's the question:

What year are the Rangers rebuilding for? Last season I thought it was 2009 with Chris Davis, TT and Hurley. Now that might be Davis and Max. But with only Hurley being the possible pitching contributor, should the organization be planning for 2010? If it’s 2010, I guess they should trade Padilla, Millwood, Bradley and anyone else for as many mid to low level prospects as possible.

JD drinks the Angels milkshake.

by WyoRanger on Jun 3, 2008 11:22 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It really depends

I think the theme for this trading deadline will be “Majors ready”, that means I’d be surprised if we didn’t take some college guys pretty high in the draft, and I’d guess any conversation with other teams will probably revolve around guys that might contribute, but not be stars or guys who are blocked like Andy LaRoche with the Dodgers.

by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2008 11:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What if the Crazy Diamond shines on?

"For the record, I did not and do not like the Volquez trade, even though Hamilton is awesome and our best player and I think he’s going to be one of the best players in baseball." philikid3

by Brian Thomas on Jun 3, 2008 12:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Heh

Nah.

But I’d be more excited about him than the Tejedas and flabby Gabbys and Mendozas that some peeps yearly pipe dream on…

"For the record, I did not and do not like the Volquez trade, even though Hamilton is awesome and our best player and I think he’s going to be one of the best players in baseball." philikid3

by Brian Thomas on Jun 3, 2008 3:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

how does he compare to Kason Gabbard

both being lefties, I like to compare them as I’m hoping Harrison is a much better prospect. And Gabbard, when on, can be very effective in Arlington…so that is my question.

what about Tommy Hunter…we seem to be moving him rather quickly, if he’s already in AA, any chance he’s a 2009 rotation candidate at some point in the year, or is he going to slow down some, and/or be moved to the bullpen?

what about Tom Diamond? How long do we ideally have to wait before he’s a consideration?

"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2008 6:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer

But I think that Hunter is a backend roto or middle-setup type reliever, Diamond has a long ways to go before anyone needs to get excited about him, and that while Harrison probably has a fair amount more than Gabbard, I’m not sure that they’re completely different classes of pitchers. Harrison throws a little harder and can seemingly use his fastball more casually. But Gabbard doesn’t have a horrible curve or change, and I wouldn’t be surprised if those pitches are fairly comparable between the two guys. Harrison can also potentially mix four pitches supposedly. But I’m not sure that he can keep the ball on the ground as well as Gabbard can, when on.

by zywica on Jun 3, 2008 6:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Milly, Padilla, McCarthy, Hurley

Even if all 4 of those are here next year, they’d better be shoring up the bullpen.

I’d bet on Daniels more than most GMs to pull off an unconventional deal that manages to bring back a viable young starter for one of those guys, but that’s still a long shot. I’d also bet on him to do something big (yet again) in the offseason to get a starter here, dealing from minor league strength. I think we’ll see a push to start winning next year, just hope the cost isn’t too high.

...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 3, 2008 11:29 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Daniels

I do think that he’s pretty creative, but I can’t really think that he knows how to bring in a viable young starter without giving up one until he does it once. Padilla is about the closest he’s come (he wasn’t that young and was headed for FA). I guess the difference here would be that he would at least be trading viable MLB starters. I don’t think that he’s had that to trade, other than the Young deal.

by zywica on Jun 3, 2008 12:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree

I doesn’t make sense to trade Padilla and/or Millwood this year since the Rangers have no chance of replacing their production for this year or even at the start of 2009. I think what would make more sense is to trade them either in the offseason or at the 2009 ASB, because by then the Rangers should have a better idea of what they have coming up.

The Rangers, while not tearing up the league, have been competitive.

JD drinks the Angels milkshake.

by WyoRanger on Jun 3, 2008 11:12 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed

Dealing Millwood and Padilla doesn’t leave much hope for next year.

by SteveP on Jun 3, 2008 11:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

who is the mccarthy person everyone keeps referencing?

...and why does anyone think that he can help this franchise?

by sam in so cal on Jun 3, 2008 10:57 AM CDT   0 recs

because hes one of the better starters we have?

obviously hes a big injury risk, but if hes on the field he would help.

Gerald Laird is my hero.

by DSheppard on Jun 3, 2008 10:58 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

mccarthy

total understatement. “Obviously he’s a big injury risk” Ya friggin’ think?

I soloed in the mile high club.

by Sr Horsedooty on Jun 3, 2008 2:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you know...

the entire purpose of saying that is so that noone feels the need to comment on it.

Gerald Laird is my hero.

by DSheppard on Jun 3, 2008 7:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Boo

"For the record, I did not and do not like the Volquez trade, even though Hamilton is awesome and our best player and I think he’s going to be one of the best players in baseball." philikid3

by Brian Thomas on Jun 3, 2008 12:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that's a sad commentary on the team

when our future is (in part) determined by a 5-10/4.97 pitcher that hasn’t thrown a pitch this season…

someone made a mark prior reference yesterday which was slightly extreme (to say that mccarthy is that good), but i think the fact remains that we can’t plan around a guy that hasn’t proven anything (except that we shouldn’t plan around him).

i, too, hope that he is an impact player, but i am very unimpressed with the impact he has made to this point.

by sam in so cal on Jun 3, 2008 11:07 AM CDT   0 recs

mccarthy

3.35 minor league ERA with a 10.37 k per 9 and 1.37 bb/p

hes even now just 24.

his debut was a 4.0 era as a starter, just fine. but then the sox pushed him out of the rotation and he was meh out of the bullpen, a role he was uncomfortable with and doesnt suit him since he seems to take a while to get going, struggling early.

then with the rangers he immediately struggled with injuries all year long. after a terrible may he had a 3.5 or so ERA the rest of the way.

its much much too early to write off brandon mccarthy.

Gerald Laird is my hero.

by DSheppard on Jun 3, 2008 11:35 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

*terrible april

and you dont have to be a 2.5 era pitcher to have an impact on this franchise. if he could come back healthy (which admittedly seems unlikely at this point) and be a 4.5 era guy that would be very helpful.

although with those positives i was mentioning i do have to bash him a bit for going so few innings in his starts. not saying he would be cy young.

Gerald Laird is my hero.

by DSheppard on Jun 3, 2008 11:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

Its amazing how his 3 start stretch in April screwed up his numbers for the entire year. But then again 18 runs in 6 innings will do that especially when you miss a bunch of time with injuries. Aside from his April he was borderline dominant. He hit another rough patch around the time he got injured again in June but when healthy the guy was a stud.

by bigsteve on Jun 3, 2008 11:46 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

McCarthy as borderline dominant

This is ludicrous. Look at his peripheral stats – especially k/9, bb/9, and hr/fb. McCarthy was very fortunate that he didn’t have an ERA around 6 last season.

Pedro: "I wasn't cockfighting, I just have a wide stance."

by tricer on Jun 3, 2008 1:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't see Padilla moved if

we are within 5 games of the wild card. Nolan just said hes working on getting butts in the seats and this would be throwing in the towel. Now if we added a Greinke with pieces from a Padilla trade like someone mentioned in another thread, it would definately be an easier sell.

by corbsclinton on Jun 3, 2008 11:09 AM CDT   0 recs

We HAVE to sign FA’s or bide our time. We are getting looks at some of those fringey guys to see if maybe just maybe one of them will stick, and so far Mendoza, Mathis, Murray haven’t shown much to this point, while Feldman has shown something worthy of a 5th starter. We had Galarraga who is doing solid for detroit, but because of roster mis-management we have him out of the equation.

If we bide our time (which is my inclination) we have to deal Padilla and Milly. it’s not like they’re aces anyway and they haven’t put in full seasons with us for 2 years now (Padz still has a chance to). We’ve all been tantalized by the whiff of contending, but we all knew that Gabbard, Feldman, Ponson, Mathis, et al would ultimately regress to their mean. Ponson is still above that but can we expect that all year?

by Hypo-Luxa on Jun 3, 2008 11:44 AM CDT   0 recs

My guess

The Rangers are going to make a hard push on a Perez, Sabathia, or Sheets this offseason.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 3, 2008 11:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm actually a Sheets fan

I don’t think that there is a chance in hell that they get Sabathia, especially considering what’s going on in the Bronx (TONS of money coming off the books, them looking for an impact starter, Hughes & IPK struggling so far). I like Perez, and he’s probably the most realistic, but you have to be a little concerned about how his lack of command would be magnified here.

by zywica on Jun 3, 2008 12:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sheets

With Millwood and/or Padilla gone wouldn’t the savings from one + a couple of million land us Sheets? I’ve only seen #’s for what Sabathia expects to land this winter, Sheets figures are never really talked about.

White Women!

by nikpin on Jun 3, 2008 12:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He will get a ton

I’m not good at guessing at that sort of thing, but I have to think pretty close to or surpassing 20 mil per.

by zywica on Jun 3, 2008 12:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Geez

I was hoping/thinking somewhere closer to $15m a year. I don’t know Johans AAV off the top of my head but he’s only making $19-Low 20s untill his contract escalates at the end. I would expect Sabathia to get that same sort of contract but not Sheets. In length or money.

White Women!

by nikpin on Jun 3, 2008 12:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

True

But I would say 6 yr $140 million is no hometown discount. He got very fair value.

White Women!

by nikpin on Jun 3, 2008 3:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't

have confidence about a certain number, and I wouldn’t steadfastly predict 20MM. I just think that it will definitely approach that, given what relatively crappy starters get, as you guys have mentioned.

by zywica on Jun 3, 2008 4:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I like Sheets as well

But if he wants any kind of long term contract, I don’t think he will get $20 mil

by Telegraph on Jun 3, 2008 12:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You are right

We are going to see a backlash from all of these poor pitching signings. Someone had an excellant post that showed the regression of all the signings before the ‘07 season. I don’t think there is a pitcher on the market that will command 20 m next year. Sabathia has show some inconsistancy, and Sheets has an injury history.

Remember the offseason when Vlad signed with the Angels? I think a number of teams are feeling snake bitten these days.

Of course, the Yanks could come in and blow that theory out of the water.

by clark on Jun 3, 2008 1:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And if those three pitchers

are going to cost that much, then Padilla and Millwood have a hell of a lot more value than Rosenthal gives them credit for.

by clark on Jun 3, 2008 1:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

We say that practially every year

Never happens, top flight pitching is just too valuable.

by zywica on Jun 3, 2008 1:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Correct

It seems like every year you hear about baseball management finally wising up and won’t be shelling out big time $$$. They you see contracts like Carlos Silvas 4yr 48m handed out and you know that will never happen. I see the talk for this off-season is that all the GMs are realizing you have to build within and spend the money on your young players. That will hold up about as well as it has every other off-season.

White Women!

by nikpin on Jun 3, 2008 3:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Perez

Oliver Perez? Flyballer and unknown quanitity?

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jun 3, 2008 12:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Based on ....

....what??

Those are big ticket free agents (Perez may be less) that are going to cost $ 15-17 million per.

How does Hicks then keep the payroll below $ 70 million and why would he raise the payroll significantly when attendance continues to plummet?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 3, 2008 12:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Padilla & Millwood

I was stating if one of them is shipped off. Padilla is slated at $12M next year and Millwood $11M. It would be an increase of 4-5 M. We paid Jennings/Broussard 7.5M alone this year for suck!

White Women!

by nikpin on Jun 3, 2008 12:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Based on...

...what?? On what do you base your assumption that Hicks won’t pony up to sign a top pitcher?

...and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid git.

by t ball on Jun 3, 2008 2:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You know what

I think is so cute about Josey? He honestly feels that he’s a freedom fighter of sorts; that but for his “realism”, we’d all be pushing each other out of the way to fellate Hicks.

by brettgardner on Jun 3, 2008 3:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hicks has demonstrated over

the last 4 years that the payroll on this thing is not going over $ 70 million.

With MY’s contract kicking in next year and a 25% decline in attendance, I simply don’t believe that HIcks will greenlight a major increase in payroll.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 3, 2008 3:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He has?

Zito would have pushed the Rangers over $70 million. Ditto Hunter. Ditto Matsuzaka.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 3, 2008 4:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

How did you forget the "offer" to Teixeira?

The Rangers may have thought they were serious bidders for each of those players but they were trumped by the teams who knew what it would take to close the deal.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 3, 2008 4:47 PM CDT